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I'll be playing on vGl-Push =P. what about you chava?!
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On September 02 2008 07:26 DeadVessel wrote:
I'll be playing on vGl-Push =P. what about you chava?!
RocketRaccoon!!
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I am DoC.LemOn
We made an internal competition within our team. Conditions
1) make only '[X] [X+] GG msg' (x= actual rank), Kick players that don't seem good (not full pts numbers <1000 etc)
OR
2) Play on channel, BUT only people with 80% win rate and more.
+ Show Spoiler +So far one D- in da team, and my 1-4 stats.
So far played one A korean, some B+ zerg and blueeyes from sweden who played spirit. They all beat me bastards ;o
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My ID is Chammy. If anyone is open to having a D+ for a team let me know~
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Woah new iccup season who knew! I'll just wait a few weeks (er... years) for TSL 2 to start tho before I start gamin.
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Jonoman92 you wouldn't even make it to the top 40 anyways, so no need to flame the tl.net staff about the speed of tsl2. Host your own money tournament if you can't wait.
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On September 02 2008 08:10 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 07:26 DeadVessel wrote:
I'll be playing on vGl-Push =P. what about you chava?! RocketRaccoon!!
i fucking love this name keen
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Godspeed- for me....
not that its important
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On September 02 2008 11:11 SkepTicAL wrote:
Jonoman92 you wouldn't even make it to the top 40 anyways, so no need to flame the tl.net staff about the speed of tsl2. Host your own money tournament if you can't wait.
i think its safe to say that not only did he mean any offense to the staff, but that he also doesn't consider himself a top foreigner. why bother making this kind of post?
On September 02 2008 11:17 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 08:10 littlechava wrote:On September 02 2008 07:26 DeadVessel wrote:
I'll be playing on vGl-Push =P. what about you chava?! RocketRaccoon!! i fucking love this name keen
<3
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On September 02 2008 11:11 SkepTicAL wrote:
Jonoman92 you wouldn't even make it to the top 40 anyways, so no need to flame the tl.net staff about the speed of tsl2. Host your own money tournament if you can't wait.
Not everyone played tsl to get into top 40. Some played to improve themselves and play tl members and get quality games.
Im cowboyspc94 ^_^
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On September 02 2008 11:23 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 11:11 SkepTicAL wrote:
Jonoman92 you wouldn't even make it to the top 40 anyways, so no need to flame the tl.net staff about the speed of tsl2. Host your own money tournament if you can't wait. i think its safe to say that not only did he mean any offense to the staff, but that he also doesn't consider himself a top foreigner. why bother making this kind of post? Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 11:17 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On September 02 2008 08:10 littlechava wrote:On September 02 2008 07:26 DeadVessel wrote:
I'll be playing on vGl-Push =P. what about you chava?! RocketRaccoon!! i fucking love this name keen <3
Because everyone gets the misconception that the staff isn't doing anything and that every project moves slowly at a time. Apparently defending the staff @ tl.net is inappropriate. You don't need TSL either to practice vs people on iccup, especially now, all the A- to A+ koreans are the same level as everyone else, so getting quality games shouldn't be an issue.
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On September 02 2008 12:55 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 11:23 littlechava wrote:On September 02 2008 11:11 SkepTicAL wrote:
Jonoman92 you wouldn't even make it to the top 40 anyways, so no need to flame the tl.net staff about the speed of tsl2. Host your own money tournament if you can't wait. i think its safe to say that not only did he mean any offense to the staff, but that he also doesn't consider himself a top foreigner. why bother making this kind of post? On September 02 2008 11:17 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On September 02 2008 08:10 littlechava wrote:On September 02 2008 07:26 DeadVessel wrote:
I'll be playing on vGl-Push =P. what about you chava?! RocketRaccoon!! i fucking love this name keen <3 Because everyone gets the misconception that the staff isn't doing anything and that every project moves slowly at a time. Apparently defending the staff @ tl.net is inappropriate.
really? it hasn't been that long since the last tsl, and i haven't seen many people legitimately complaining about the length of time it's taking for the next one to start. your post just seemed like you were blowing what he said out of proportion. also, i dont think the staff needs defending, if they think something like that is inappropriate i'm pretty sure they can handle it themselves :O
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Yes that is NonY. I have tons of reps with NonY playing under the alias of uglytoss. Good catch 
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On September 02 2008 13:26 selboN wrote:Yes that is NonY. I have tons of reps with NonY playing under the alias of uglytoss. Good catch
good catch? this has been known for a few seasons...
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ill post my aka when i hit a+
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
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On September 02 2008 14:06 Aux1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 13:26 selboN wrote:Yes that is NonY. I have tons of reps with NonY playing under the alias of uglytoss. Good catch good catch? this has been known for a few seasons...
ironically i didnt know it was him but looking at stats a seasn or two ago
like 54-4 from america and protoss made me say(Yeah if this isnt nony im gay)
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On September 02 2008 13:22 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 12:55 SkepTicAL wrote:On September 02 2008 11:23 littlechava wrote:On September 02 2008 11:11 SkepTicAL wrote:
Jonoman92 you wouldn't even make it to the top 40 anyways, so no need to flame the tl.net staff about the speed of tsl2. Host your own money tournament if you can't wait. i think its safe to say that not only did he mean any offense to the staff, but that he also doesn't consider himself a top foreigner. why bother making this kind of post? On September 02 2008 11:17 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On September 02 2008 08:10 littlechava wrote:On September 02 2008 07:26 DeadVessel wrote:
I'll be playing on vGl-Push =P. what about you chava?! RocketRaccoon!! i fucking love this name keen <3 Because everyone gets the misconception that the staff isn't doing anything and that every project moves slowly at a time. Apparently defending the staff @ tl.net is inappropriate. really? it hasn't been that long since the last tsl, and i haven't seen many people legitimately complaining about the length of time it's taking for the next one to start. your post just seemed like you were blowing what he said out of proportion. also, i dont think the staff needs defending, if they think something like that is inappropriate i'm pretty sure they can handle it themselves :O
Well if he was being sarcastic then obviously i didn't pick it up, but when you say "it'll takeyears until tsl2," i get the idea that people think that tsl2 isn't under progress.... that's all 
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Who is SrantyEyes-_-
he amazingly amazinging #1 ICCUP wowow how he so good who is this man?
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On September 02 2008 15:45 G5 wrote:
Who is SrantyEyes-_-
he amazingly amazinging #1 ICCUP wowow how he so good who is this man?
Shared KTF account.
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mind sharing some reps G5?
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Will be playing as moneybags :D
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Incruit is playing again, did we ever find out who that was?
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On September 02 2008 16:31 coulthard[pR] wrote:mind sharing some reps G5?
go dl reps from gg.net / tl.net / ygclan.com / w/e else you get reps
I am newbie and watching my replays will only make you worst T.T
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a small point, when listing the akas in the OP i think it would be more practical to list the iccup name first instead of second
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I'll be playing as MrBungle, look for me in the D- section.
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HighwayOfHeros
i'll also be keeping MrBungle company in the D- section
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On September 02 2008 16:01 jimminy_kriket wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 15:45 G5 wrote:
Who is SrantyEyes-_-
he amazingly amazinging #1 ICCUP wowow how he so good who is this man? Shared KTF account.
lol
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On September 02 2008 14:07 dream-_- wrote:
ill post my aka when i hit a+
How about when you hit B+/a- ?
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Btw, Whitera is using his gameitoss id this season apparently.
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I will be playing under OneKeenBastard
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I will be playing under atomsk
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I'll stick to playing ZHaDum[F2F] this season
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i'm 4-8 
You can add me on the list ( aka boblion ).
I only won vs some noob toss ( and i cheesed ... ).
Terrans and zergs seem too skilled for my D+ level :O
I LOVE EARLY SEASON !
I got raped 4gaz vs 2 gaz pvt. 3-2 200/200 mech is somewhat imba -.-
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Yeah it's daaman he's used that nick a few times on ICCup as well.
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he is 1 game.. who cares? :o
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gl to all in the new season
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wow... thanks tyler, for shutting down my fucking post. ill see you at usa finals, gl gonna fucking need it....
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kakakakakakkkk btw uglytoss = nony 100%
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uglytoss was xeris i thought...?
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IdrA you watch your ass man, because when I find your aka I'm gonna get a programmable keyboard and put a macro that spams "1v1 gogogogogo" 100 times a second from games so I don't flood.
SOONER OR LATER YOU WILL ACCEPT.
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FuDDx
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Im Ca.FuDDx still unsure how to switch name.
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Hey Nony, could you upload those games vs PJ? If you don't want to I'd understand though, with WCG comin up and everything
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no im not releasing reps. those games were bad anyway cuz i think neither of us practice troy much at all. first game was good for him, but really newb for me, so his win wasnt even that rewarding. i just randomly had trashcan mechanics even tho i was warmed up and everything. and i thought a DT fit when only 1 assim is dead lol........ 2nd game, i was 90% going to win, but he disc and it didnt report. i only got advantage off build order anyway. 3rd game was straight up build order win for him (1 base 4gate goon/zeal with no obs against my 2gate obs expand) zzzzz
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what is the fascination with python? I really dont get it. 75% of D games I see are on python, kinda odd.
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My iccup will be sn, Tenken.1. Hopefully I will get to C this season...... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee~~~~~~~
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On September 05 2008 14:16 dream-_- wrote:
what is the fascination with python? I really dont get it. 75% of D games I see are on python, kinda odd.
Remember Luna? And Rush Hour? And Temple? Same thing basically. Some people just refuse to not play the staple map of the era. That said, I haven't had a single problem with getting games on Longinus (when it was motw) or Andromeda so far and I see plenty of people spamming for andro/blue storm/long in channel. Seems much better to me than back in the day on PGT where you almost couldn't get a game if it wasn't on luna. tt Of course, I just make public games and wait for somebody to come so I don't really check the join screen much.
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anyone know who DarkMagician is?
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On September 05 2008 15:33 maareek wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2008 14:16 dream-_- wrote:
what is the fascination with python? I really dont get it. 75% of D games I see are on python, kinda odd. Remember Luna? And Rush Hour? And Temple? Same thing basically. Some people just refuse to not play the staple map of the era. That said, I haven't had a single problem with getting games on Longinus (when it was motw) or Andromeda so far and I see plenty of people spamming for andro/blue storm/long in channel. Seems much better to me than back in the day on PGT where you almost couldn't get a game if it wasn't on luna. tt Of course, I just make public games and wait for somebody to come so I don't really check the join screen much.
Ahh the good old days,nothing could beat the luna-rh3-rpoint-neoForte Motw,NOTHING!!
Pgt had really good map selection,the mots (map of the season) was a nice addition too.
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On September 05 2008 19:34 Fable wrote:
anyone know who DarkMagician is?
A yugioh character
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6 is fly[join], the peruvian guy. at least I think he is 6, whatever c- with a bad recrord is him. interesting I remember him being a little bit better than his record, guess he is rusty.
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Dream take into account that its the start of the season. And if you play in korean times and you are unlucky (or lucky if you will) you can catch many A capable players and more starting on the ladder 
Btw are there any pros in Join?
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On September 06 2008 03:58 LemOn wrote:Dream take into account that its the start of the season. And if you play in korean times and you are unlucky (or lucky if you will) you can catch many A capable players and more starting on the ladder Btw are there any pros in Join?
Say[jOin] is pro on eStro
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isn't Nony AngryGorilla on icc?
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OK I'm REALLY gonna try playing this time, I'm "Moonkin"
My goal is to play a few games everyday, maybe 2-3. If I'm good I can hit B-, maybe? :D
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On September 05 2008 19:34 Fable wrote:
anyone know who DarkMagician is?
It's the evil version of Nal_rA, SAVIOR :O
Just kidding, I don't know who he is
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On September 05 2008 19:34 Fable wrote:
anyone know who DarkMagician is?
Yeah, lets just say he's Top 5 non-korean terran in US and can play random quite well. He's not mainstream atm. Pressure guide anyone? Hint Hint ... LOL
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On September 06 2008 04:34 HyoRiN wrote:
isn't Nony AngryGorilla on icc?
no
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On September 05 2008 11:23 NonY[rC] wrote:
Man, machine is SOO awsome can i have your babies?
no
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I'm HeavOnEarth and EzPzLmnSqz
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On September 06 2008 04:37 Equinox_kr wrote:
OK I'm REALLY gonna try playing this time, I'm "Moonkin"
My goal is to play a few games everyday, maybe 2-3. If I'm good I can hit B-, maybe? :D
b-???
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i played a few games with pringles -- very solid player! seemed like a progamer
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add "Loptomist" to that list!
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On September 06 2008 10:47 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2008 04:37 Equinox_kr wrote:
OK I'm REALLY gonna try playing this time, I'm "Moonkin"
My goal is to play a few games everyday, maybe 2-3. If I'm good I can hit B-, maybe? :D b-???
It's doable if I just play enough games LOL
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B- is definitely doable for vast majority if people. I mean come on, +130, -75 ? If you play 1k+ games per season like rA it has to be possible
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hmmm cept ra is very very good he plays many people to get better, so dont put in him same catagory
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Same category? He is doing the same aseveryone can - skills up by mass gaming... Almost anyone can find those 2.5 hours a day to play 10-12 games. Its not the case with Ra's B+/A- level with normal builds, he is just good... but on C level with 1K games every season you HAVE to reach at least B- (assuming you don't cheese too often or are an unstable person)
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okay i know what u mean but when ra wants to he can get a good reacord A rank, but he plays vs kors on gameitoss and that is why his stats are 50-50 also i sure that is the account he is gonna try stuff out on
and can any1 c if pringles is a pro-gamer do some hotkey match and such?
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On September 06 2008 03:49 dream-_- wrote:
6 is fly[join], the peruvian guy. at least I think he is 6, whatever c- with a bad recrord is him. interesting I remember him being a little bit better than his record, guess he is rusty.
Im not 6[jOin] T T
im rusty, but im not playing for them @ Iccup :p
but ill ask some aka's at west
but im pretty sure that 7[jOin] is 7EvEn[jOin] :D:D:D
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so many Chinese IP were judged to Australia
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ya i was wondering like, what the fuck who does australia have lol
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On September 07 2008 12:31 ishob wrote:
or north korea?
Maybe you missed the point of what was being said ; ]
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On September 02 2008 08:10 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2008 07:26 DeadVessel wrote:
I'll be playing on vGl-Push =P. what about you chava?! RocketRaccoon!!
Your name reminds of the Beatles song Rocky Raccoon.
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I prefer PuncturedRaccoon, a friend of mine who likes Pudge uses it for Dota.
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As usual playing on sMi.Aurious
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Lemon white-ra is far better then your average joe lol. Hes creative and smart. And maybe half of those games (500 or so which isnt TOO much over 3 months) were from strelok as well.. They shared the acc to practice vs koreans ~_~
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Pringles = YarnC
And 7[jOin] was TuHon[jOin] in the previous seasons
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On September 07 2008 16:18 SkepTicAL wrote:
Lemon white-ra is far better then your average joe lol. Hes creative and smart. And maybe half of those games (500 or so which isnt TOO much over 3 months) were from strelok as well.. They shared the acc to practice vs koreans ~_~
My point had nothing to do with actual skill, but how you improve.
And why did you have to tell me the acc was shared, I really thought he did 1k games ;(
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Any new progamers playing?
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Haha sorry to burst your bubble ... and mass gaming isnt always the way. If you have people explain to you what your doing right/wrong, you improve like 10x faster with less games played.
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7[jOin] is not tuhon now ...
tuhon is protoss, and 7 is terran -_-
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On September 08 2008 01:13 SkepTicAL wrote:Haha sorry to burst your bubble ... and mass gaming isnt always the way. If you have people explain to you what your doing right/wrong, you improve like 10x faster with less games played.
Play alot of games with ppl who's equal in skills makes you improve the most, having someone to tell you to macro better or get earlier grades wont make much of a difference imo... And if someone really needs advice, the best one is to tell them to watch reps to get the most common strategies and just find the upsides/downsides with the bo's.
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If you play mass games and do the same thing wrong over and over, whats the point of mass gaming? Having someone tell you what you did wrong at certain points is actually really helpful equally as good and doesnt require you play like a robot with 3948384 games a day
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Sometimes you can't see the most obvious mistakes until someone else points them out, it's a part of being human.
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Are you guys sure Pringles is YellOw[ArnC] ? Because he was chilling in Op NrG) for a while today lol.
EDIT: Oh if (paladin)roMAD said it's him then it's him. Fuck yeah I had yarnc in my channel :D
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What is with all the Australian players, did Koreans find a proxy or something?
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On September 08 2008 07:43 Valentine wrote:
Are you guys sure Pringles is YellOw[ArnC] ? Because he was chilling in Op NrG) for a while today lol.
EDIT: Oh if (paladin)roMAD said it's him then it's him. Fuck yeah I had yarnc in my channel :D
haha congrats
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I'm playing iccup this season!
at least for a couple weeks
but no, in order to save some dignity I would rather not share my name on here, haha
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On September 08 2008 01:38 AstraBoy wrote:
7[jOin] is not tuhon now ...
tuhon is protoss, and 7 is terran -_-
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ive never understood it but how do you find out who the gosu koreans are on iccup :o
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By looking at the hotkeys of the players in question, and comparing them to existing, confirmed replays of well known pros. Everyone has a different hotkey signature, you could say it's your fingerprint.
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pretty[gm] = Dream.t)Britney
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Lobbo - Lobbo/Fgreve Non korean
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Ilikestarcraft - I believe I played you late last night (well, late for me). I went to bed, so I couldn't re, but if you want to play/train, we can arrange for more games. I was Blasius.
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Pringles loses 9 times to koreans then loses one to some australian (still probably korean) in a 10 min game (probably got rush owned) out of about 50 games. That is impressive... it probably is yellow
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On September 09 2008 00:32 AlabasterFilth wrote:
Ilikestarcraft - I believe I played you late last night (well, late for me). I went to bed, so I couldn't re, but if you want to play/train, we can arrange for more games. I was Blasius.
i was sortof bm sry
Yeah i would love to play you again
are you on east coast?
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On September 09 2008 12:18 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2008 00:32 AlabasterFilth wrote:
Ilikestarcraft - I believe I played you late last night (well, late for me). I went to bed, so I couldn't re, but if you want to play/train, we can arrange for more games. I was Blasius. i was sortof bm sry Yeah i would love to play you again are you on east coast?
Yes, so I wouldn't expect us to be able to play that often, but I often times get the sc bug late at night on weekends, so I'm sure we could play then
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him and kawaii were hanging out in lzh, I come in...
HolyCrap: LOOOOOL
HolyCrap: 1v1?
sMi.Suppy: Um are you protoss
HolyCrap: LOOOOL
Kawaii: he's dino
sMi.Suppy: I don't wanna play with Dino, sorry
HolyCrap: lmao
HolyCrap: at least he's being a nice douche by apologizing
sMi.Suppy -> Kawaii: I thought you said you were not hanging out with him anymore
Kawaii -> sMi.Suppy: he came in the channel randomly
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How do you know?
If you're referring to his nickname, it could be anyone using that!
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HolyCrap used to be a shared KTF account, or was it Yellow, one of the two.
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SiahGY = SharpTerran right?
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ya that' dino. Mister brainless caps lock user -_-
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On September 10 2008 06:31 ZpuX wrote:
wasn't holyshit herys account?
one season it was all hery another season it was shared ktf account
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On September 10 2008 03:38 Pads wrote:
that was HolyShit
My bad.
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Damn someone get in contact with someone whos played him and request reps ASAP
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Dino has so many smurf accounts on iCCup, he could be practically any toss at this point in the season.
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On September 10 2008 16:12 jimminy_kriket wrote:Damn someone get in contact with someone whos played him and request reps ASAP
imagine it ends up being flash haha
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hotkeys match with go.go's , but the apm doesn't. Maybe just one game. But it really looks like go.go!^^
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Who is sye[arnc]
profile:Here
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On September 11 2008 08:53 eXigent. wrote:Who is sye[arnc] profile: HereReplays: 12
i talked to this guy for a bit, he was super nice
i think he's just a random ArnC member, he said his rank high is A+ and yellow[ArnC] is his friend
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whats your icc name steve?!
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ya me and steve talked to sye[arnc] he knocked me out of D tourney T_T said he was friends with sea and bisu but f removed sea because "angry" XD
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didn't flash use the ID golden mouse in the replay vs jaedong? If flash is playing iccup then w0w but it's probably another famous terran to get stats like that early season.
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Yeah different sigs
flash hotkeys his main cc 123 than uses 3 iirc
golden mouse uses 1 and in the rep doesnt seem to hotkey 1 as units which flash does
Golden mouse also seems slower than flash usually but thats not evidence because people are slower when they play casually
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On September 11 2008 10:34 littlechava wrote:
whats your icc name steve?!
TARQUINN
THE STAGE IS SET, THE GREEN FLAG DROPS!
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You post like 5 people at the beginning of every iccup season trying to mock them for playing a rank under, but that's so stupid it's not even funny. It's the beginning of the season, and playing 1 rank down is not a problem at all. I guess if someone was at B+ and they played B you would say HEY DUDES EASY WAY TO GET B+ LOL CHECK IT OUT
as a 2v2 player you should KNOW this, because most of the time you don't get to play the same rank even later in the season.
jeez.
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On September 11 2008 10:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:i talked to this guy for a bit, he was super nice i think he's just a random ArnC member, he said his rank high is A+ and yellow[ArnC] is his friend
His hotkeys are pretty close to sAviOrs hotkeys ;O .. but I agree, maybe just a "random" ArnC. There are lots of korean A+ level gamers. OO
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On September 11 2008 12:49 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Yeah different sigs
flash hotkeys his main cc 123 than uses 3 iirc
golden mouse uses 1 and in the rep doesnt seem to hotkey 1 as units which flash does
Golden mouse also seems slower than flash usually but thats not evidence because people are slower when they play casually
As I said before, the hotkeys of GoldenMouse are completely matching with go.go[GsP] hotkeys.
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better ask romad or midian
hotkeys of sye are "pretty close" to any zerg..
and lol @ dino fucktard haah.
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On September 11 2008 16:21 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2008 12:49 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Yeah different sigs
flash hotkeys his main cc 123 than uses 3 iirc
golden mouse uses 1 and in the rep doesnt seem to hotkey 1 as units which flash does
Golden mouse also seems slower than flash usually but thats not evidence because people are slower when they play casually As I said before, the hotkeys of GoldenMouse are completely matching with go.go[GsP] hotkeys.
I dunno about completely, thats why i want romads opinion.
+ Show Spoiler [reasons] +go.go uses 345 only for barracks/factories earlygame from all the reps ive looked at. goldenmouse hotkeys a supply depot to 456 which ive never seen go.go do. goldenmouse didnt hotkey his factory either which gogo does every game. Goldenmouse also used shift deselect to split at least one of his scvs, i couldnt find a replay of gogo where he uses shift deselect. that and an apm difference of over 100
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On September 11 2008 10:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:i talked to this guy for a bit, he was super nice i think he's just a random ArnC member, he said his rank high is A+ and yellow[ArnC] is his friend
Lol he has just 11 Games and guess what... I played him too, he was nice indeed, didn't mind my 600 ping
Btw why so many koreans have Australian flag? Are they from certain parts of Korea or is it just random mistake maybe based on provider connection type?
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On September 12 2008 04:11 arackhnee wrote:
australia is #2 on icc at 1v1 so it's totally impossible... maybe icc takes some koreans ip's like being australian? :S
Yep, some people who register from Korea get an Australian flag for some reason, just a bug.
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australia "abusers" !! ^^
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noreply = ?
41-3 USA race picker, looks like pvz zvp and zvt
previous season B aswell with good stats
he played 25 games on the account though so it wasn't a full transfer, i`m suprised he wasn't mentioned before. maybe its obvious and i`m in the dark ^^
any ideas?
edit: chosen maybe? on that mym interview he said he was B- this season and clearly from usa and zerg.
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goldenmouse COULD be FlaSh .. can you hotkeys compare ?...
ive seen some replays this days where flash is GoldenMouse
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On September 11 2008 08:53 eXigent. wrote:Who is sye[arnc] profile: HereReplays: 12
Christian[ArnC]
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On September 12 2008 05:21 ArtOfShow wrote:
goldenmouse COULD be FlaSh .. can you hotkeys compare ?...
ive seen some replays this days where flash is GoldenMouse
it isnt him
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On September 12 2008 06:39 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2008 05:21 ArtOfShow wrote:
goldenmouse COULD be FlaSh .. can you hotkeys compare ?...
ive seen some replays this days where flash is GoldenMouse it isnt him
Goldenmouse has about 230-240 apm right? could be some B-team pro or really good amateur?
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On September 12 2008 05:20 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
noreply = ?
41-3 USA race picker, looks like pvz zvp and zvt
previous season B aswell with good stats
he played 25 games on the account though so it wasn't a full transfer, i`m suprised he wasn't mentioned before. maybe its obvious and i`m in the dark ^^
any ideas?
edit: chosen maybe? on that mym interview he said he was B- this season and clearly from usa and zerg.
noreply is Dinot I believe... Chosen = Majikal.
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dinot O_o? since when does he use offraces? thanks for majikal though
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Or LzGaMeR..
Lz does ZvT ZvP PvZ
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On September 11 2008 20:31 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2008 10:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On September 11 2008 08:53 eXigent. wrote:Who is sye[arnc] profile: HereReplays: 12 i talked to this guy for a bit, he was super nice i think he's just a random ArnC member, he said his rank high is A+ and yellow[ArnC] is his friend Lol he has just 11 Games and guess what... I played him too, he was nice indeed, didn't mind my 600 ping Btw why so many koreans have Australian flag? Are they from certain parts of Korea or is it just random mistake maybe based on provider connection type?
sye[arnc] said it was a mistake
he seemed very embarassed hahah
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On September 12 2008 07:57 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2008 05:20 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
noreply = ?
41-3 USA race picker, looks like pvz zvp and zvt
previous season B aswell with good stats
he played 25 games on the account though so it wasn't a full transfer, i`m suprised he wasn't mentioned before. maybe its obvious and i`m in the dark ^^
any ideas?
edit: chosen maybe? on that mym interview he said he was B- this season and clearly from usa and zerg. noreply is Dinot I believe... Chosen = Majikal.
DinOt is a Chilean Z user;; dont get confused
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On September 12 2008 05:21 ArtOfShow wrote:
goldenmouse COULD be FlaSh .. can you hotkeys compare ?...
ive seen some replays this days where flash is GoldenMouse
do you people even read the thread
On September 11 2008 16:21 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2008 12:49 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Yeah different sigs
flash hotkeys his main cc 123 than uses 3 iirc
golden mouse uses 1 and in the rep doesnt seem to hotkey 1 as units which flash does
Golden mouse also seems slower than flash usually but thats not evidence because people are slower when they play casually As I said before, the hotkeys of GoldenMouse are completely matching with go.go[GsP] hotkeys.
Still hard to tell if goldenmouse is go.go because koreans copy each others sigs a lot ;;
But goldenmouse's sigs are abit different than the really common ones hmm so dont know
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I think it's really retarded to bitch at people for playing 1/2 a rank below their own. I mean if they are bragging about their rank you can call them out on it, but otherwise it's really none of your business and not your concern.
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unless its the combat guy ^^
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if im in a channel and say im C, if none of the C's will play ill play C+ or C- its not too big of a deal unless your like B+ and play B-'s to get A- or something
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On September 12 2008 13:27 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
unless its the combat guy ^^
LOL COMBAT-EX IS MY FREAKING HERO
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On September 12 2008 12:59 ArtOfShow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2008 07:57 Xeris wrote:On September 12 2008 05:20 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
noreply = ?
41-3 USA race picker, looks like pvz zvp and zvt
previous season B aswell with good stats
he played 25 games on the account though so it wasn't a full transfer, i`m suprised he wasn't mentioned before. maybe its obvious and i`m in the dark ^^
any ideas?
edit: chosen maybe? on that mym interview he said he was B- this season and clearly from usa and zerg. noreply is Dinot I believe... Chosen = Majikal. DinOt is a Chilean Z user;; dont get confused
Uhh some american can simply make an account for dinot. How you think everyone gets a korean flag when they smurf, or how infernal had a swedish flag for his smurf. Dont be ignorant and he wont be confused ^_^
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On September 12 2008 06:31 (paladin)roMAD wrote:Christian[ArnC]
Didn't sAviOr used to play some games as christian[arnc] ?
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So who is Maybe-X17? I know he is Spire, and transferred stats. Just wondering if any replays might show other akas
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On September 12 2008 05:20 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
noreply = ?
41-3 USA race picker, looks like pvz zvp and zvt
previous season B aswell with good stats
he played 25 games on the account though so it wasn't a full transfer, i`m suprised he wasn't mentioned before. maybe its obvious and i`m in the dark ^^
any ideas?
edit: chosen maybe? on that mym interview he said he was B- this season and clearly from usa and zerg.
US Zerg with those MUs sounds like LZGamer. ;o
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is iccup working with the new patch?
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On September 12 2008 20:03 arb wrote:
PurE)PJ = PJ
Kind of a "no shit sherlock?" altho its a shared account from time to time ^^
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I gave up on my old account, I'm now playing under iamtheparagon ^^
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On September 12 2008 05:20 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
noreply = ?
41-3 USA race picker, looks like pvz zvp and zvt
previous season B aswell with good stats
he played 25 games on the account though so it wasn't a full transfer, i`m suprised he wasn't mentioned before. maybe its obvious and i`m in the dark ^^
any ideas?
edit: chosen maybe? on that mym interview he said he was B- this season and clearly from usa and zerg.
He is korean, some USA friend make the account for him
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There are many other 400 apm terrans out there that can go 12-0 at the D level
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Netherlands4511 Posts
lol divinek. you're not getting it!
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I got it, I saw the other posts. However I probably shouldn't have tried to make such a literal joke out of it.
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On September 12 2008 16:06 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2008 06:31 (paladin)roMAD wrote:On September 11 2008 08:53 eXigent. wrote:Who is sye[arnc] profile: HereReplays: 12 Christian[ArnC] Didn't sAviOr used to play some games as christian[arnc] ?
Yes he played a bit
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Why isnt dream.t)britney added
It was hard to find >.>
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On September 12 2008 15:24 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2008 12:59 ArtOfShow wrote:On September 12 2008 07:57 Xeris wrote:On September 12 2008 05:20 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
noreply = ?
41-3 USA race picker, looks like pvz zvp and zvt
previous season B aswell with good stats
he played 25 games on the account though so it wasn't a full transfer, i`m suprised he wasn't mentioned before. maybe its obvious and i`m in the dark ^^
any ideas?
edit: chosen maybe? on that mym interview he said he was B- this season and clearly from usa and zerg. noreply is Dinot I believe... Chosen = Majikal. DinOt is a Chilean Z user;; dont get confused Uhh some american can simply make an account for dinot. How you think everyone gets a korean flag when they smurf, or how infernal had a swedish flag for his smurf. Dont be ignorant and he wont be confused ^_^
dinot is 100% z player lol;;
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On September 13 2008 00:26 AstraBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2008 05:20 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
noreply = ?
41-3 USA race picker, looks like pvz zvp and zvt
previous season B aswell with good stats
he played 25 games on the account though so it wasn't a full transfer, i`m suprised he wasn't mentioned before. maybe its obvious and i`m in the dark ^^
any ideas?
edit: chosen maybe? on that mym interview he said he was B- this season and clearly from usa and zerg. He is korean, some USA friend make the account for him
agree, its ridiculous to think hes dinot
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On September 13 2008 05:29 jimminy_kriket wrote:Why isnt dream.t)britney added It was hard to find >.>
missed it
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is it just me or is ICCUP not as difficult as it was last season O_O;;
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On September 13 2008 13:14 Xeris wrote:
is it just me or is ICCUP not as difficult as it was last season O_O;;
if you mean right now all of the progamers and practice partners have the updated patch so they cant play it.
dont know about the season in general
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51397 Posts
I wish Gamei was revived....
I mean not Neo Gamei just Gamei.
so classic
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did you even play gamei gtr? Dont remember didnt you start tl like around 2004? Was gamei around then hmm.
I never played any ladders besides pgt and iccup and i think pgtour was the best.
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Wow gtr has only been here since 04, I could have swore I read a post from him from a search that went back 02-03 ... brain fart t.t
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Well he's 15 or something, he couldn't post while he still had diapers, or...?
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On September 13 2008 15:55 GTR-2-Go wrote:
I wish Gamei was revived....
I mean not Neo Gamei just Gamei.
so classic
iccup/pgt are/were way better than gamei IMO.
on gamei you really couldnt mass game like you can iccup or pgt.
ELO was to blame for that but....meh It was fun though
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pgt is the same as gamei just slightly more foreigners and a better ranking system. elo is dumb
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Will be playing under Requiemofdream, and some smurfs too.
Look for me in the F section.
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The difference is everyone was actually playing gamei quite serously, which can't be said about ICC nor PGT.
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Time goldens memory lol....
iCCup >>PGT >>>>>gamei
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ELO made you get to your "real" level faster so I prefer that over the current rating systems such as the one used on iCCup. Migh just be that I dont understand it tho. Nothing is really stopping you from mass gaming on an elo ladder and if you start new seasons as often as iCCup does there is no problem with inactive people at the highest ranks.
Too bad that my confirmed spotting of an actually active member of teamliquid (daaman) on page 3 went unnoticed on the op updates.
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man how long is it going to take iccup to use new patch ><
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whitemagic add him to the abuser list since he is a proven "Abuser" and cheater
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how? he looks legit to me O_o
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aha 2 seasons in a row <3 guys
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Oh.... so that's the guy who was playing in the LighT tourney. I beat him 2-1 I am gosu!
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How'd you beat a... let me think... how does LS himself word it.. "Progamer".. Damn we ought to have Lastshadow on Spirit.
/Sarcasm off
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ya thats sadly lastshalol. Ranged got the invite instead of him
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dont think its quite fair to put him on the abuser list, dont see anything wrong with the account and the anti hack was just updated.
edit - and it looks like he went 2-1 vs mig.finger who is actually quite solid. really doubt he is abusing.
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On September 16 2008 15:42 dream-_- wrote:
dont think its quite fair to put him on the abuser list, dont see anything wrong with the account and the anti hack was just updated.
edit - and it looks like he went 2-1 vs mig.finger who is actually quite solid. really doubt he is abusing.
On September 11 2008 23:38 littlechava wrote:
life is unfair T_t
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1) its not like the ladder is flooded with b- and above users for him to play against
2) he can play whoever he feels like, unless I misread something in the ladder rules?
not sure why everyone feels like calling abuse, bad addition to the thread imo and should prolly be removed. All I see it doing is provide an outlet for people to flame.
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On September 16 2008 16:11 dream-_- wrote:1) its not like the ladder is flooded with b- and above users for him to play against 2) he can play whoever he feels like, unless I misread something in the ladder rules? not sure why everyone feels like calling abuse, bad addition to the thread imo and should prolly be removed. All I see it doing is provide an outlet for people to flame.
I've never called anyone abuser, but I think playing a player that is 3 ranks below you more than 5 times or something in a row is at least not correct. And as far as I know the rules state that you may not play a player below your rank more than 5 times or something! But please don't act like I'm insulting him like crazy.
I just say he should play C/C+ players, because there are already lots of them. But if you feel like I spam i've no problem with removing my post.
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Why should he? Many people like to have certain percentage of wins in their game, or they just don't have fun. I don't feel like you spam on purpose, but that you just don't get it.
Or do you really think it is better to reset your account 8 times and have ten of them only to play against the skill level you want to play against (for whatever reason)?
Its a ladder for gods sake, and the system is pretty well set (you win only few points, but can also lose a lot).
He plays whoever he wants, and others play him because they lose and can gain less points and play against better opponent!
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I just think iccup has gotten the reputation as "THE PLACE" to be improving, so when you see someone who is leisurely beating people 3 ranks below him, you wonder what the heck he is doing on the ladder, almost like he is wasting his time. However, people still need to enjoy themselves, and if he enjoys playing lower ranks to attain what he wishes to attain, then all the power to him, so long as he is not breaking any severe server rules.
Also, 5 games against someone 3 ranks lower is not as bad as it looks. Im pretty sure the lower ranked player must be enjoying the gaming as well, otherwise he would split after the first loss .
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Exactly. I personally LOVE to play against better ranked opponents, and if B- ers would play me on C- I would be exstatic. So many points to win, so great motivation!
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Actually, it's often the lower rank people who keep asking for re. I usually play people one rank below if there's no people responding at my rank. It'd be rude not to accept even if he dropped down another rank after a few games.
And this discussion is so old and silly. He might get one step above his 'real' rank if he keep grinding C- noobs, but even then it's barely worth it even if he is a rankwhore and I don't see any problem unless they are giving him freewins.
After B it becomes almost impossible to do that anyway.
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there are almost no high rank people on because of the new patch. some people just want to play bw and dont care about ranks
iccup is updating to 1.15.3 now
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On September 16 2008 15:42 dream-_- wrote:
dont think its quite fair to put him on the abuser list, dont see anything wrong with the account and the anti hack was just updated.
edit - and it looks like he went 2-1 vs mig.finger who is actually quite solid. really doubt he is abusing.
oh he deserves it
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I have an account that is soley for the fun of playing, since random bnet is just worseless I'm C with a record like 40/25 and half of my games are against D+.... If I don't feel like searching for a game I just host and whoever joins I start ..... Why is that abuse... btw I did this once to hit B ( I don't consider it my ladder high, but I played only C-/C users to get rank up) so that I could play against much better players.... think about it guys.... If its the place to improve .... some people want to test there game against better competition..... thats how I felt at the time anyway, although I don't consider it my true ladder peak ... Oh and once I got to B I went about 30% win ratio back to C+ =).... fun games thou.
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On September 13 2008 05:29 jimminy_kriket wrote:Why isnt dream.t)britney added It was hard to find >.>
I asked him on US West and he said no...
Are you sure?
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AnotherZerg told me he is ZergbOy[ScM] really dunno`
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edited because i never posted that message...
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Netherlands4511 Posts
maps are shit again this week t.t
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On September 18 2008 01:57 ret wrote:
maps are shit again this week t.t
QFT Thought I finally won a TvT on Faoi :D
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Luna is best motw right now. Plus 2-3 years ago is the most played map during that time. So I actually like having it still around to play on
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On September 18 2008 01:05 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
haha posting himself
Why would that be a problem?
You have places for korean pros / notable foreigners / TLer's.
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On September 18 2008 01:05 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
haha posting himself
along with all the other tl.neters on the list on the front page? wtf are you smoking.
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On September 17 2008 23:21 Tarmak_mk wrote:
AnotherZerg told me he is ZergbOy[ScM] really dunno`
That is him afaik, there was some replays released of him playing on that name.
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I must admit, LastShadow is doing pretty well, and not abusing. If only he hadnt rigged those maps :-/
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if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts
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On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts
lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me
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Once a last shadow always a last shadow, but this thread shouldn't turn into a LS thread. New subject plz.
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so im guessing testie still hacks then?haypro still uses autosplit? LS made a mistake and hes smart enough to realize it....just like testie/haypro hes taking himself alot father
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On September 19 2008 12:25 OmniKnight wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me
He said he 1 it with a soar arm 2.
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The difference with LastShadow is that you know he's not genuine. See his last posts. See how he abused WCG months after he claims to have stopped hacking.
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Lol sony so much for keeping that a secret
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He looks like the guy who was playing on the arts account last season.
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On September 19 2008 12:55 OmniKnight wrote:
so im guessing testie still hacks then?haypro still uses autosplit? LS made a mistake and hes smart enough to realize it....just like testie/haypro hes taking himself alot father
actually everyone gave testie shit till he started winning offline events, ls has done nothing to prove hes legit and hes 'apologized' and cheated again too many times to deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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On September 19 2008 12:25 OmniKnight wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me
lol LS won a [light] tourney invite, and they refused to let him in? lol. Why even let him in the tourney if u didnt have any intentions in letting him join lol
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On September 19 2008 21:49 ret wrote:
LOLOLOL WHY NOT?
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On September 19 2008 12:55 OmniKnight wrote:
so im guessing testie still hacks then?haypro still uses autosplit? LS made a mistake and hes smart enough to realize it....just like testie/haypro hes taking himself alot father
no just no
On September 19 2008 12:25 OmniKnight wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me
Ls did abuse iccup freewins from kawaiirice
anyone with common sense can see that ls deserves no one to defend for him
wait are you ls?
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On September 19 2008 16:12 likeaboss wrote:Lol sony so much for keeping that a secret
Wouldnt have been anyways for long. Quite a few people knew I was smurfing on the id anyways. Besides after last season hitting B then losing it at the last second before the end of the season was upsetting so this season will be different ^_^;
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I wonder who the current no.1 and first A- is.
profile
He played 45 games on the 19th. Ouch.
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TL members
jello_biafra - iamtheparagon
Jello_Biafra is just the best ID ever...
DEAD KENNEDYS FTW!
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On September 18 2008 01:57 ret wrote:
maps are shit again this week t.t
i agree
I really hate luna
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On September 19 2008 20:42 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2008 12:25 OmniKnight wrote:On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me lol LS won a [light] tourney invite, and they refused to let him in? lol. Why even let him in the tourney if u didnt have any intentions in letting him join lol
1. He's a cheater
2. He smurfed
3. Would you let him in your team?
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On September 19 2008 17:18 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2008 12:55 OmniKnight wrote:
so im guessing testie still hacks then?haypro still uses autosplit? LS made a mistake and hes smart enough to realize it....just like testie/haypro hes taking himself alot father actually everyone gave testie shit till he started winning offline events, ls has done nothing to prove hes legit and hes 'apologized' and cheated again too many times to deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Offline is the best way for an ex-hacker to prove that he can be a good player legitimately. Although they did get added help while hacking for things like timing/predicting opponents strats.
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On September 20 2008 22:30 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2008 20:42 Murk wrote:On September 19 2008 12:25 OmniKnight wrote:On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me lol LS won a [light] tourney invite, and they refused to let him in? lol. Why even let him in the tourney if u didnt have any intentions in letting him join lol 1. He's a cheater 2. He smurfed 3. Would you let him in your team?
My point exactly, why did you even let him in the tourney? didn't you just waste your time hosting the tourney since LS won?
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he registered on a smurf, i dont think light does a full background check before they let someone sign up for their tournaments.
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midgettoss was T.Sqd)Kr awhile ago I think? Anyways that ID is C+ now.
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On September 21 2008 04:15 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
midgettoss was T.Sqd)Kr awhile ago I think? Anyways that ID is C+ now.
Fenix,the id Kr smurfs on is usually peacefighter one i think
might be freedomfighter..
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On September 20 2008 22:34 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2008 22:30 SkepTicAL wrote:On September 19 2008 20:42 Murk wrote:On September 19 2008 12:25 OmniKnight wrote:On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me lol LS won a [light] tourney invite, and they refused to let him in? lol. Why even let him in the tourney if u didnt have any intentions in letting him join lol 1. He's a cheater 2. He smurfed3. Would you let him in your team? My point exactly, why did you even let him in the tourney? didn't you just waste your time hosting the tourney since LS won?
He wouldn't cough up his aka even after he won the tournament lol
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It took about 40 minutes of him lying about not being Lastshadow until his "manager" or whatever Thievey eventually admitted "ya its Lastshadow" , and then he finally admitted it himself.
Even though he won it legitly, there's no way I'd let him join LighT just like I would never let Dino join LighT even if I know he's playing legit.... the reputation is too bad, nobody in their right mind would let them in their teams.
Lastshadow needs to prove himself offline before he can really clear his reputation. He's been caught hacking/cheating/lying/whatever too many times that ANYTHING he does online will be looked at skeptically, even if he is actually playing legit.
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On September 20 2008 22:34 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2008 22:30 SkepTicAL wrote:On September 19 2008 20:42 Murk wrote:On September 19 2008 12:25 OmniKnight wrote:On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me lol LS won a [light] tourney invite, and they refused to let him in? lol. Why even let him in the tourney if u didnt have any intentions in letting him join lol 1. He's a cheater 2. He smurfed 3. Would you let him in your team? My point exactly, why did you even let him in the tourney? didn't you just waste your time hosting the tourney since LS won?
im beginning to think your retarded, smurfing means that he played under a name that no one knew him under meaning that NO ONE KNEW WHO HE WAS AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE LET HIM IN IF THEY KNEW KTHNX.
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On September 21 2008 06:17 Machine[USA] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2008 22:34 Murk wrote:On September 20 2008 22:30 SkepTicAL wrote:On September 19 2008 20:42 Murk wrote:On September 19 2008 12:25 OmniKnight wrote:On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me lol LS won a [light] tourney invite, and they refused to let him in? lol. Why even let him in the tourney if u didnt have any intentions in letting him join lol 1. He's a cheater 2. He smurfed 3. Would you let him in your team? My point exactly, why did you even let him in the tourney? didn't you just waste your time hosting the tourney since LS won? im beginning to think your retarded, smurfing means that he played under a name that no one knew him under meaning that NO ONE KNEW WHO HE WAS AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE LET HIM IN IF THEY KNEW KTHNX.
i just found out he was a smurf, it wasent said before so shut the fuck up
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How about creating a new thread if you want to argue the validity of lastshadow (good luck with that). lets try and stay on topic please.
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On September 21 2008 10:52 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2008 06:17 Machine[USA] wrote:On September 20 2008 22:34 Murk wrote:On September 20 2008 22:30 SkepTicAL wrote:On September 19 2008 20:42 Murk wrote:On September 19 2008 12:25 OmniKnight wrote:On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me lol LS won a [light] tourney invite, and they refused to let him in? lol. Why even let him in the tourney if u didnt have any intentions in letting him join lol 1. He's a cheater 2. He smurfed 3. Would you let him in your team? My point exactly, why did you even let him in the tourney? didn't you just waste your time hosting the tourney since LS won? im beginning to think your retarded, smurfing means that he played under a name that no one knew him under meaning that NO ONE KNEW WHO HE WAS AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE LET HIM IN IF THEY KNEW KTHNX. i just found out he was a smurf, it wasent said before so shut the fuck up
actually it WAS said from the very beginning.
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thats me
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On September 21 2008 12:52 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2008 10:52 Murk wrote:On September 21 2008 06:17 Machine[USA] wrote:On September 20 2008 22:34 Murk wrote:On September 20 2008 22:30 SkepTicAL wrote:On September 19 2008 20:42 Murk wrote:On September 19 2008 12:25 OmniKnight wrote:On September 19 2008 10:26 littlechava wrote:
if only he hadn't rigged those maps, abused iccup, and abused wcg T_T he'd be such a superstar right now
luckily he left behind those lulzy tl posts lastshadow didnt abuse iccup, that was moonrai/kawaiirice, as kawaiirice even admitted to, people THOUGHT ls had something to do with it,and also it was never proven he cheated at wcg, only alot of evidence, but nothing concrete'and he is doing really good frm what it seems, and didnt he just win the [light] invite tournament and accepted the rejection with nothing but pure understanding/good manner? he seems fine to me lol LS won a [light] tourney invite, and they refused to let him in? lol. Why even let him in the tourney if u didnt have any intentions in letting him join lol 1. He's a cheater 2. He smurfed 3. Would you let him in your team? My point exactly, why did you even let him in the tourney? didn't you just waste your time hosting the tourney since LS won? im beginning to think your retarded, smurfing means that he played under a name that no one knew him under meaning that NO ONE KNEW WHO HE WAS AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE LET HIM IN IF THEY KNEW KTHNX. i just found out he was a smurf, it wasent said before so shut the fuck up actually it WAS said from the very beginning.
Damn you xeris! DAMN U ! lol
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someone has the ID "IdrA_THe_Model" Roflflflff ahahaha
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Idra_The_Model = worked ( i think )
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On September 21 2008 04:15 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
midgettoss was T.Sqd)Kr awhile ago I think? Anyways that ID is C+ now.
Yeah it was Fenix. Kr stopped playing for a while study/working oo
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lol stfu duran! that was supposed to be a secret!
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superapple = 2009 100% and dunno his aka!
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I duno if thats him. If it is holy he got good lol
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Maybe-X17 = By.Cozy 100% with confirmations from 4 individuals.
If anyone has a replay send it to Romad to get a definite confirm for the disbelievers.
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I'll confirm it's By.Cozy too, he told me that at least =.=
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so uhh, who got him to smurf for x17?
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I'm using classic[FcG] if you don't mind putting me in the op
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so by.cozy = spire, bc those are the stats that were transferred...
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it could be andriode seeing as its pretty close to WCG. Looks like hes trying to get used to othello anyways
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On September 26 2008 16:43 jimminy_kriket wrote:
it could be andriode seeing as its pretty close to WCG. Looks like hes trying to get used to othello anyways
Androide never qualified for WCG!
He lost in the top 16 bracket of WCG RU
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On September 26 2008 15:51 jimminy_kriket wrote:
so uhh, who got him to smurf for x17?
pofoks-x17 speaks korean and became friends with him and asked him to play on x17 tag
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hmm, well i got a few ill just ask them first.
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He won a tourney last night, I was online when the announcment was made.
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Might want to re-check, cause he's B+ with 0 games played from B to B+
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I guess mousepad is ToT)yosh( according to incontrol's latest replay.
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fosc.sasso - sasso lol
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he won a tournament and he made six complaints since he was c+
so i dont think complaints show on the match list
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On September 27 2008 06:35 SpriteLove wrote:he won a tournament and he made six complaints since he was c+ so i dont think complaints show on the match list
Uh.. complaitns show up in the match list since thats where you make the complaints. Also, he's now B+ with no additional games played and he hasn't won any more tournaments. This smells fishy, seeing how LS can't possibly go B+ with 48-5 this early in the season.
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not all shows up in matchlist, but you're right, it's extremely rare to have 6 games which doesn't show up in matchlist.
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On September 27 2008 06:42 meRz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2008 06:35 SpriteLove wrote:he won a tournament and he made six complaints since he was c+ so i dont think complaints show on the match list Uh.. complaitns show up in the match list since thats where you make the complaints. Also, he's now B+ with no additional games played and he hasn't won any more tournaments. This smells fishy, seeing how LS can't possibly go B+ with 48-5 this early in the season.
If the complaint was about a disconnect and it wasnt alrdy on the match list then all they do is add the points and give them a win
on a sidenote i was unaware this was LS so who knows
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On September 27 2008 07:08 SpriteLove wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2008 06:42 meRz wrote:On September 27 2008 06:35 SpriteLove wrote:he won a tournament and he made six complaints since he was c+ so i dont think complaints show on the match list Uh.. complaitns show up in the match list since thats where you make the complaints. Also, he's now B+ with no additional games played and he hasn't won any more tournaments. This smells fishy, seeing how LS can't possibly go B+ with 48-5 this early in the season. If the complaint was about a disconnect and it wasnt alrdy on the match list then all they do is add the points and give them a win on a sidenote i was unaware this was LS so who knows
Yeah this is LS; he's trying to get in NrG, lol. Theres quite a bit of debate on whether or not he deserves a chance from us or that we have too much pride to let him in, anyway. You can actually rack up like 1000 points worth of disc complaints over a season and report them all to get a free rank up, so there are definately many ways to get an inflated rank.
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why in the world would you allow him in?
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do most pros play iccup and stay hidden or do they just not play and theres no point in searching for them?
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the sole reason of this thread is basically to find out what account name the pros are using. They do play but they almost never use their true account name so you rarely know who your playing.
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On September 27 2008 10:38 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2008 07:08 SpriteLove wrote:On September 27 2008 06:42 meRz wrote:On September 27 2008 06:35 SpriteLove wrote:he won a tournament and he made six complaints since he was c+ so i dont think complaints show on the match list Uh.. complaitns show up in the match list since thats where you make the complaints. Also, he's now B+ with no additional games played and he hasn't won any more tournaments. This smells fishy, seeing how LS can't possibly go B+ with 48-5 this early in the season. If the complaint was about a disconnect and it wasnt alrdy on the match list then all they do is add the points and give them a win on a sidenote i was unaware this was LS so who knows Yeah this is LS; he's trying to get in NrG, lol. Theres quite a bit of debate on whether or not he deserves a chance from us or that we have too much pride to let him in, anyway. You can actually rack up like 1000 points worth of disc complaints over a season and report them all to get a free rank up, so there are definately many ways to get an inflated rank.
Heh, I watched some reps with him when after he beat my friend in RvT on Troy in that C/B tourney yesterday. He was comparing his vulture micro to that of  Mind. He then told me not to doubt him and that he is an A-level player and made these smug smileys..
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On September 27 2008 18:04 jimminy_kriket wrote:
28372 is not brat_ok.
why? I very well could be wrong, I'm no romad, but teach me so I don't repeat my mistakes in the future.
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1140679/0017-IamLoWeLyFZ-TSLBRATOKT.rep.html
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1140727/0113-TSLBRAT-TSLZZZZ-neoP.rep.html
Basically the same eapm with very unique keys.
These keys match the reps almost exactly:
CC on 1 and 0. Scv on 2, 3 and 9. 3 only for a sec and then rax. 9 only for a split sec and then CC.
5 accad until he gets vessels out.
He spams a bit more early game in the one vs JamesBond, but it was his first tvz of the day and who knows. It's definitely not A2, android, or spx. I don't know of any other Russian T's who can pull those stats at this stage of the season.
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On September 27 2008 14:13 Xeris wrote:
why in the world would you allow him in?
Then again, that's alot easier for you to say with your team filled with successful/very good players, and being quite popular and having many people who want to join your team. [LighT] is like what, division 1 for every league they play in? NrG dropped to Division 3 in WGTCL, so that may give you a little perspective on some of the opionions of maybe giving him a chance if he's a promising person skill-wise.
Don't get me wrong, I'm your number 1 man to say that we don't want LastShadow, but I just wanted you to see that other people may have differing opinions due to our team's circumstances.
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On September 27 2008 21:24 meathook wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2008 10:38 Valentine wrote:On September 27 2008 07:08 SpriteLove wrote:On September 27 2008 06:42 meRz wrote:On September 27 2008 06:35 SpriteLove wrote:he won a tournament and he made six complaints since he was c+ so i dont think complaints show on the match list Uh.. complaitns show up in the match list since thats where you make the complaints. Also, he's now B+ with no additional games played and he hasn't won any more tournaments. This smells fishy, seeing how LS can't possibly go B+ with 48-5 this early in the season. If the complaint was about a disconnect and it wasnt alrdy on the match list then all they do is add the points and give them a win on a sidenote i was unaware this was LS so who knows Yeah this is LS; he's trying to get in NrG, lol. Theres quite a bit of debate on whether or not he deserves a chance from us or that we have too much pride to let him in, anyway. You can actually rack up like 1000 points worth of disc complaints over a season and report them all to get a free rank up, so there are definately many ways to get an inflated rank. Heh, I watched some reps with him when after he beat my friend in RvT on Troy in that C/B tourney yesterday. He was comparing his vulture micro to that of Mind. He then told me not to doubt him and that he is an A-level player and made these smug smileys..
lawl
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On September 02 2008 14:07 dream-_- wrote:
ill post my aka when i hit a+
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
Noob.
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On September 27 2008 22:29 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2008 14:13 Xeris wrote:
why in the world would you allow him in? Then again, that's alot easier for you to say with your team filled with successful/very good players, and being quite popular and having many people who want to join your team. [LighT] is like what, division 1 for every league they play in? NrG dropped to Division 3 in WGTCL, so that may give you a little perspective on some of the opionions of maybe giving him a chance if he's a promising person skill-wise. Don't get me wrong, I'm your number 1 man to say that we don't want LastShadow, but I just wanted you to see that other people may have differing opinions due to our team's circumstances.
i'll just say this ... you should never get desperate enough to add someone like him to your team for a few CW wins. the huge amount of reputation loss you would get by having him on your team is not worth what his skill really is.
he is a good player, but he's not great. he can compete in division 3 and probably win most of the time, and do well in division 2 as well. but would you really sacrifice NrG's reputation to have a mid-level player on your team?
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On September 28 2008 01:50 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2008 22:29 Valentine wrote:On September 27 2008 14:13 Xeris wrote:
why in the world would you allow him in? Then again, that's alot easier for you to say with your team filled with successful/very good players, and being quite popular and having many people who want to join your team. [LighT] is like what, division 1 for every league they play in? NrG dropped to Division 3 in WGTCL, so that may give you a little perspective on some of the opionions of maybe giving him a chance if he's a promising person skill-wise. Don't get me wrong, I'm your number 1 man to say that we don't want LastShadow, but I just wanted you to see that other people may have differing opinions due to our team's circumstances. i'll just say this ... you should never get desperate enough to add someone like him to your team for a few CW wins. the huge amount of reputation loss you would get by having him on your team is not worth what his skill really is. he is a good player, but he's not great. he can compete in division 3 and probably win most of the time, and do well in division 2 as well. but would you really sacrifice NrG's reputation to have a mid-level player on your team?
No, and that's the same argument I have for the people who want to give him a chance on our team. Even if someone has a horrible reputation you can always gain it back, but in his case, he is still a BM prick if you ever have to sit down and talk to him.
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Maybe-X17 is not By.Cozy................
Maybe-x17 is aka FT.aCt)Love / Sasin)Yeon aka American/USA ...
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On September 28 2008 01:59 SassO wrote:
Maybe-X17 is not By.Cozy................
Maybe-x17 is aka FT.aCt)Love / Sasin)Yeon aka American/USA ...
Show me proof of that. Since I know everyones smurf ID from FT.aCt) since I am/was FT.aCt).
Shin Yeon On is playing as Loveaffair-x17 which I can get confirmed through everyone on the x17 team.
Not too mention I know most of the X17 lineup who have all confirmed that its By.Cozy.
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Why a guy in By would smurf for X-17 ?
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28372 = Brat_OK
2009 = Qoo)Clon
Pisaro = Ryan[Shield]
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On September 28 2008 02:47 Boblion wrote:
Why a guy in By would smurf for X-17 ?
Not sure if its by.cozy or not, but I do know they are paying players to reach A rank, and in their shoutbox, he does ask about his payment. (he is now A- or A rank)
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On September 28 2008 01:52 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 01:50 Xeris wrote:On September 27 2008 22:29 Valentine wrote:On September 27 2008 14:13 Xeris wrote:
why in the world would you allow him in? Then again, that's alot easier for you to say with your team filled with successful/very good players, and being quite popular and having many people who want to join your team. [LighT] is like what, division 1 for every league they play in? NrG dropped to Division 3 in WGTCL, so that may give you a little perspective on some of the opionions of maybe giving him a chance if he's a promising person skill-wise. Don't get me wrong, I'm your number 1 man to say that we don't want LastShadow, but I just wanted you to see that other people may have differing opinions due to our team's circumstances. i'll just say this ... you should never get desperate enough to add someone like him to your team for a few CW wins. the huge amount of reputation loss you would get by having him on your team is not worth what his skill really is. he is a good player, but he's not great. he can compete in division 3 and probably win most of the time, and do well in division 2 as well. but would you really sacrifice NrG's reputation to have a mid-level player on your team? No, and that's the same argument I have for the people who want to give him a chance on our team. Even if someone has a horrible reputation you can always gain it back, but in his case, he is still a BM prick if you ever have to sit down and talk to him.
I highly doubt he will get his reputation back because 1) the best way he can do it is through LAN performances, and he had a chance of playing in WCG this year but fucked it up, and there aren't many other LANs he can participate in 2) his ICCUP rank seems like its really shady in some way, whether it be newb bashing or abusing or whatever 3) his character alone makes it seem really improbable for him to redeem himself
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someone needs to find the aka of jaedongfan.. it is probably some mym player.
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On September 28 2008 02:13 Tibs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 01:59 SassO wrote:
Maybe-X17 is not By.Cozy................
Maybe-x17 is aka FT.aCt)Love / Sasin)Yeon aka American/USA ... Show me proof of that. Since I know everyones smurf ID from FT.aCt) since I am/was FT.aCt). Shin Yeon On is playing as Loveaffair-x17 which I can get confirmed through everyone on the x17 team. Not too mention I know most of the X17 lineup who have all confirmed that its By.Cozy.
Just trust me on this, it's not cozy....
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I think you should give more evidence instead of asking us to trust your word over his (and he actually provides what appears to be evidence).
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Evidence? it's not an investigation. I could say that someone that know Love really good has confirmed it for me... That should be enough.
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Of course it's not, I was just asking what led you to be so sure that you were right and he was not. Also, loveaffair-x17 isn't an iccup account atm.
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LoveAffair he just uses on east, just a random name. Well i've told u now so
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On September 28 2008 06:06 SassO wrote:
Evidence? it's not an investigation. I could say that someone that know Love really good has confirmed it for me... That should be enough.
I think it's evidence enough for me to say that superapple is NrG.Bamboo.
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I'm playing under ReQuiemof[LeM] if anyone cares. :D
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Sorry I didnt realise brat used different keys tvz.
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On September 28 2008 07:19 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 06:06 SassO wrote:
Evidence? it's not an investigation. I could say that someone that know Love really good has confirmed it for me... That should be enough. I think it's evidence enough for me to say that superapple is NrG.Bamboo.
I knew it
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On September 28 2008 02:58 eXigent. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 02:47 Boblion wrote:
Why a guy in By would smurf for X-17 ?
Not sure if its by.cozy or not, but I do know they are paying players to reach A rank, and in their shoutbox, he does ask about his payment. (he is now A- or A rank)
no he doesn't. and pofoks-x17 is getting his payment. stop spreading rumors. there isn't a single post by maybe-x17 in the chatbox, and he joined before they offered payment. jesus.
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Sorry my mistake, pofoks asked FOR him. So whats the difference? Either way they are paying him to reach A. Which was the point to my post.
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As NoobsOfWrath wrote Maybe joined before awktober offered any payment, and that payment is a reward for the first 3 members of the team that gets to A ranks, its not a bribe to get anyone to play with the X17 tag.
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On September 11 2008 14:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:You post like 5 people at the beginning of every iccup season trying to mock them for playing a rank under, but that's so stupid it's not even funny. It's the beginning of the season, and playing 1 rank down is not a problem at all. I guess if someone was at B+ and they played B you would say HEY DUDES EASY WAY TO GET B+ LOL CHECK IT OUT as a 2v2 player you should KNOW this, because most of the time you don't get to play the same rank even later in the season. jeez.
I don't know why I didn't see this before.
1) I only did this for this season and last season
2) I only posted about ONE guy this season and ONE guy last season
3) You are an idiot.
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How...How do you do it? I mean, ive found some people before too but like... O_O
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On September 28 2008 14:07 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2008 14:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:You post like 5 people at the beginning of every iccup season trying to mock them for playing a rank under, but that's so stupid it's not even funny. It's the beginning of the season, and playing 1 rank down is not a problem at all. I guess if someone was at B+ and they played B you would say HEY DUDES EASY WAY TO GET B+ LOL CHECK IT OUT as a 2v2 player you should KNOW this, because most of the time you don't get to play the same rank even later in the season. jeez. I don't know why I didn't see this before. 1) I only did this for this season and last season 2) I only posted about ONE guy this season and ONE guy last season 3) You are an idiot.
No, I'm not an idiot. Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere.
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On September 28 2008 16:23 jimminy_kriket wrote:
How...How do you do it? I mean, i've found some people before too but like... O_O
I just memorized hotkeys for many many players. It's not that i just sat down and memorized them, i've been looking at bwchart since 2003 now and memorized them all unconsciously.
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On September 28 2008 17:08 (paladin)roMAD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 16:23 jimminy_kriket wrote:
How...How do you do it? I mean, i've found some people before too but like... O_O I just memorized hotkeys for many many players. It's not that i just sat down and memorized them, i've been looking at bwchart since 2003 now and memorized them all unconsciously.
haha i just find it crazy that you know jinyoung[name]'s (who? ) hotkeys by memory. I know a few players but only like big names like july, etc. You've run into him in the past I take it?
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On September 28 2008 17:12 jimminy_kriket wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 17:08 (paladin)roMAD wrote:On September 28 2008 16:23 jimminy_kriket wrote:
How...How do you do it? I mean, i've found some people before too but like... O_O I just memorized hotkeys for many many players. It's not that i just sat down and memorized them, i've been looking at bwchart since 2003 now and memorized them all unconsciously. haha i just find it crazy that you know jinyoung[name]'s (who? ) hotkeys by memory. I know a few players but only like big names like july, etc. You've run into him in the past I take it?
There were numerous team leagues in the past, including fou, name, [gm], sea clans and many current progamers played there as amateurs. I watched all those leagues and predicted who will make it big in the progaming scene. My picks were Bisu (2004), Jaedong (2005)
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So I send romad a few reps he requested to verify progamer AKAs, and within 5 minutes he tells me that two of them are Final[fOu] and n.ace)ever, and one of them is Luxury playing protoss. Now, I have no idea how the fuck he knows some random progamer practice partners hotkeys just by looking at them, and how he can tell a pro's offrace hotkeys??
[17:58] Hot_Bid: do you have every pro's hotkey signatures memorized?
[17:59] (paladin)roMAD: yeah lol
[17:59] Hot_Bid: lol wtf
[17:59] Hot_Bid: so u can tell
[17:59] Hot_Bid: just by looking!?
[17:59] (paladin)roMAD: the thing that i didnt memorize them on purpose
[17:59] (paladin)roMAD: yes
[17:59] Hot_Bid: rofl
[17:59] Hot_Bid: ur like some replay savant
[17:59] (paladin)roMAD: i automatically memorized them
[17:59] Hot_Bid: hahaha
[17:59] (paladin)roMAD: it's called screen memory rofl
lol wtf!?! romad you are some sicko replay savant
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starofNC used to be one too, but he deleted SC :/
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it still blows my mind that you knew one of the reps was luxury playing protoss lol
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so who are final[fou] and ever? :p
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final[fOu] == n.ace)ever == former lecaf captain. now mia from their roster
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On September 28 2008 16:35 NoobsOfWrath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 14:07 Xeris wrote:On September 11 2008 14:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:You post like 5 people at the beginning of every iccup season trying to mock them for playing a rank under, but that's so stupid it's not even funny. It's the beginning of the season, and playing 1 rank down is not a problem at all. I guess if someone was at B+ and they played B you would say HEY DUDES EASY WAY TO GET B+ LOL CHECK IT OUT as a 2v2 player you should KNOW this, because most of the time you don't get to play the same rank even later in the season. jeez. I don't know why I didn't see this before. 1) I only did this for this season and last season 2) I only posted about ONE guy this season and ONE guy last season 3) You are an idiot. No, I'm not an idiot. Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere.
I wasn't aware I was supposed to "get somewhere" with my response. I wasn't trying to. You aren't an idiot but clearly you have trouble doing basic math, because that's what I was trying to point out.
"like 5 people at the beginning of every ICCUP season" - and by 5 people you really mean one, and by every season you mean the past two seasons (six ICCUP seasons so far? and two from Abyss?). So clearly you have trouble with basic math, and I'm assuming you are at least 18, which would probably qualify you as an idiot?
Either that or your attempt at making some sort of sarcastic witty comment failed because the amount you exaggerated about what I said is just baseless. And it's different playing a rank below at B+ level, because there is a limited pool of players at any point in the season at that rank. Even at the beginning of the season you can find games at any rank if you really want to, I can guarantee the people who newb bash at the beginning of the season don't do it because they have trouble getting games, it's because they want to be at the top of some ladder for a day or two and brag about it.
And again, 2v2 is different than 1v1 because the pool of players in 2v2 is MUCH smaller.
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On September 29 2008 02:32 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 16:35 NoobsOfWrath wrote:On September 28 2008 14:07 Xeris wrote:On September 11 2008 14:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:You post like 5 people at the beginning of every iccup season trying to mock them for playing a rank under, but that's so stupid it's not even funny. It's the beginning of the season, and playing 1 rank down is not a problem at all. I guess if someone was at B+ and they played B you would say HEY DUDES EASY WAY TO GET B+ LOL CHECK IT OUT as a 2v2 player you should KNOW this, because most of the time you don't get to play the same rank even later in the season. jeez. I don't know why I didn't see this before. 1) I only did this for this season and last season 2) I only posted about ONE guy this season and ONE guy last season 3) You are an idiot. No, I'm not an idiot. Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere. I wasn't aware I was supposed to "get somewhere" with my response. I wasn't trying to. You aren't an idiot but clearly you have trouble doing basic math, because that's what I was trying to point out. "like 5 people at the beginning of every ICCUP season" - and by 5 people you really mean one, and by every season you mean the past two seasons (six ICCUP seasons so far? and two from Abyss?). So clearly you have trouble with basic math, and I'm assuming you are at least 18, which would probably qualify you as an idiot? Either that or your attempt at making some sort of sarcastic witty comment failed because the amount you exaggerated about what I said is just baseless. And it's different playing a rank below at B+ level, because there is a limited pool of players at any point in the season at that rank. Even at the beginning of the season you can find games at any rank if you really want to, I can guarantee the people who newb bash at the beginning of the season don't do it because they have trouble getting games, it's because they want to be at the top of some ladder for a day or two and brag about it. And again, 2v2 is different than 1v1 because the pool of players in 2v2 is MUCH smaller.
Calm down.
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On September 29 2008 03:07 NoobsOfWrath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2008 02:32 Xeris wrote:On September 28 2008 16:35 NoobsOfWrath wrote:On September 28 2008 14:07 Xeris wrote:On September 11 2008 14:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:You post like 5 people at the beginning of every iccup season trying to mock them for playing a rank under, but that's so stupid it's not even funny. It's the beginning of the season, and playing 1 rank down is not a problem at all. I guess if someone was at B+ and they played B you would say HEY DUDES EASY WAY TO GET B+ LOL CHECK IT OUT as a 2v2 player you should KNOW this, because most of the time you don't get to play the same rank even later in the season. jeez. I don't know why I didn't see this before. 1) I only did this for this season and last season 2) I only posted about ONE guy this season and ONE guy last season 3) You are an idiot. No, I'm not an idiot. Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere. I wasn't aware I was supposed to "get somewhere" with my response. I wasn't trying to. You aren't an idiot but clearly you have trouble doing basic math, because that's what I was trying to point out. "like 5 people at the beginning of every ICCUP season" - and by 5 people you really mean one, and by every season you mean the past two seasons (six ICCUP seasons so far? and two from Abyss?). So clearly you have trouble with basic math, and I'm assuming you are at least 18, which would probably qualify you as an idiot? Either that or your attempt at making some sort of sarcastic witty comment failed because the amount you exaggerated about what I said is just baseless. And it's different playing a rank below at B+ level, because there is a limited pool of players at any point in the season at that rank. Even at the beginning of the season you can find games at any rank if you really want to, I can guarantee the people who newb bash at the beginning of the season don't do it because they have trouble getting games, it's because they want to be at the top of some ladder for a day or two and brag about it. And again, 2v2 is different than 1v1 because the pool of players in 2v2 is MUCH smaller. Calm down.
lol youre such a troll
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On September 28 2008 07:19 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 06:06 SassO wrote:
Evidence? it's not an investigation. I could say that someone that know Love really good has confirmed it for me... That should be enough. I think it's evidence enough for me to say that superapple is NrG.Bamboo.
Superapple is Bamboo? uhm no.
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On September 29 2008 03:07 NoobsOfWrath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2008 02:32 Xeris wrote:On September 28 2008 16:35 NoobsOfWrath wrote:On September 28 2008 14:07 Xeris wrote:On September 11 2008 14:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:You post like 5 people at the beginning of every iccup season trying to mock them for playing a rank under, but that's so stupid it's not even funny. It's the beginning of the season, and playing 1 rank down is not a problem at all. I guess if someone was at B+ and they played B you would say HEY DUDES EASY WAY TO GET B+ LOL CHECK IT OUT as a 2v2 player you should KNOW this, because most of the time you don't get to play the same rank even later in the season. jeez. I don't know why I didn't see this before. 1) I only did this for this season and last season 2) I only posted about ONE guy this season and ONE guy last season 3) You are an idiot. No, I'm not an idiot. Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere. I wasn't aware I was supposed to "get somewhere" with my response. I wasn't trying to. You aren't an idiot but clearly you have trouble doing basic math, because that's what I was trying to point out. "like 5 people at the beginning of every ICCUP season" - and by 5 people you really mean one, and by every season you mean the past two seasons (six ICCUP seasons so far? and two from Abyss?). So clearly you have trouble with basic math, and I'm assuming you are at least 18, which would probably qualify you as an idiot? Either that or your attempt at making some sort of sarcastic witty comment failed because the amount you exaggerated about what I said is just baseless. And it's different playing a rank below at B+ level, because there is a limited pool of players at any point in the season at that rank. Even at the beginning of the season you can find games at any rank if you really want to, I can guarantee the people who newb bash at the beginning of the season don't do it because they have trouble getting games, it's because they want to be at the top of some ladder for a day or two and brag about it. And again, 2v2 is different than 1v1 because the pool of players in 2v2 is MUCH smaller. Calm down.
How am I not calm? Admit you are a troll.
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Haha!
Who is "ArtosisISbad" on iccup? :D
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romad, is there a chance Diana-X17 is Diana_V_?
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On September 29 2008 05:50 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2008 03:07 NoobsOfWrath wrote:On September 29 2008 02:32 Xeris wrote:On September 28 2008 16:35 NoobsOfWrath wrote:On September 28 2008 14:07 Xeris wrote:On September 11 2008 14:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:You post like 5 people at the beginning of every iccup season trying to mock them for playing a rank under, but that's so stupid it's not even funny. It's the beginning of the season, and playing 1 rank down is not a problem at all. I guess if someone was at B+ and they played B you would say HEY DUDES EASY WAY TO GET B+ LOL CHECK IT OUT as a 2v2 player you should KNOW this, because most of the time you don't get to play the same rank even later in the season. jeez. I don't know why I didn't see this before. 1) I only did this for this season and last season 2) I only posted about ONE guy this season and ONE guy last season 3) You are an idiot. No, I'm not an idiot. Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere. I wasn't aware I was supposed to "get somewhere" with my response. I wasn't trying to. You aren't an idiot but clearly you have trouble doing basic math, because that's what I was trying to point out. "like 5 people at the beginning of every ICCUP season" - and by 5 people you really mean one, and by every season you mean the past two seasons (six ICCUP seasons so far? and two from Abyss?). So clearly you have trouble with basic math, and I'm assuming you are at least 18, which would probably qualify you as an idiot? Either that or your attempt at making some sort of sarcastic witty comment failed because the amount you exaggerated about what I said is just baseless. And it's different playing a rank below at B+ level, because there is a limited pool of players at any point in the season at that rank. Even at the beginning of the season you can find games at any rank if you really want to, I can guarantee the people who newb bash at the beginning of the season don't do it because they have trouble getting games, it's because they want to be at the top of some ladder for a day or two and brag about it. And again, 2v2 is different than 1v1 because the pool of players in 2v2 is MUCH smaller. Calm down. How am I not calm? Admit you are a troll.
If I were trolling I don't think I'd just ignore your childish posts. If you want to continue this woefully one-sided "conversation," you can PM me. I won't reply to anything else her, the thread is getting derailed by your eloquent essay responses to me.
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On September 29 2008 07:29 NoobsOfWrath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2008 05:50 Xeris wrote:On September 29 2008 03:07 NoobsOfWrath wrote:On September 29 2008 02:32 Xeris wrote:On September 28 2008 16:35 NoobsOfWrath wrote:On September 28 2008 14:07 Xeris wrote:On September 11 2008 14:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:You post like 5 people at the beginning of every iccup season trying to mock them for playing a rank under, but that's so stupid it's not even funny. It's the beginning of the season, and playing 1 rank down is not a problem at all. I guess if someone was at B+ and they played B you would say HEY DUDES EASY WAY TO GET B+ LOL CHECK IT OUT as a 2v2 player you should KNOW this, because most of the time you don't get to play the same rank even later in the season. jeez. I don't know why I didn't see this before. 1) I only did this for this season and last season 2) I only posted about ONE guy this season and ONE guy last season 3) You are an idiot. No, I'm not an idiot. Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere. I wasn't aware I was supposed to "get somewhere" with my response. I wasn't trying to. You aren't an idiot but clearly you have trouble doing basic math, because that's what I was trying to point out. "like 5 people at the beginning of every ICCUP season" - and by 5 people you really mean one, and by every season you mean the past two seasons (six ICCUP seasons so far? and two from Abyss?). So clearly you have trouble with basic math, and I'm assuming you are at least 18, which would probably qualify you as an idiot? Either that or your attempt at making some sort of sarcastic witty comment failed because the amount you exaggerated about what I said is just baseless. And it's different playing a rank below at B+ level, because there is a limited pool of players at any point in the season at that rank. Even at the beginning of the season you can find games at any rank if you really want to, I can guarantee the people who newb bash at the beginning of the season don't do it because they have trouble getting games, it's because they want to be at the top of some ladder for a day or two and brag about it. And again, 2v2 is different than 1v1 because the pool of players in 2v2 is MUCH smaller. Calm down. How am I not calm? Admit you are a troll. If I were trolling I don't think I'd just ignore your childish posts. If you want to continue this woefully one-sided "conversation," you can PM me. I won't reply to anything else her, the thread is getting derailed by your eloquent essay responses to me.
troll..
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This is the only thread on TL i actually enjoy reading on a regular basis and you guys are shitting it up. Mods please hand out some temp bans if they dont stop.
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On September 29 2008 04:50 SassO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 07:19 Valentine wrote:On September 28 2008 06:06 SassO wrote:
Evidence? it's not an investigation. I could say that someone that know Love really good has confirmed it for me... That should be enough. I think it's evidence enough for me to say that superapple is NrG.Bamboo. Superapple is Bamboo? uhm no.
But it's coming from a man who knows Bamboo very well.. -___-;
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I can vouch Superapple = NrG.Bamboo. 100% sure, he told me himself.
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On September 29 2008 10:39 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2008 04:50 SassO wrote:On September 28 2008 07:19 Valentine wrote:On September 28 2008 06:06 SassO wrote:
Evidence? it's not an investigation. I could say that someone that know Love really good has confirmed it for me... That should be enough. I think it's evidence enough for me to say that superapple is NrG.Bamboo. Superapple is Bamboo? uhm no. But it's coming from a man who knows Bamboo very well.. -___-;
bambo gosu,he owned me many many many times zvz
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USA29055 Posts
wow the games never stop with LS
btw that was LS or a friend of LS..
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Braavos36374 Posts
never fear i am to the rescue
fan of former hacker, aka of former hacker, or posting for a former hacker = autoban
thanks
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On September 28 2008 17:48 Hot_Bid wrote:So I send romad a few reps he requested to verify progamer AKAs, and within 5 minutes he tells me that two of them are Final[fOu] and n.ace)ever, and one of them is Luxury playing protoss. Now, I have no idea how the fuck he knows some random progamer practice partners hotkeys just by looking at them, and how he can tell a pro's offrace hotkeys?? Show nested quote +[17:58] Hot_Bid: do you have every pro's hotkey signatures memorized?
[17:59] (paladin)roMAD: yeah lol
[17:59] Hot_Bid: lol wtf
[17:59] Hot_Bid: so u can tell
[17:59] Hot_Bid: just by looking!?
[17:59] (paladin)roMAD: the thing that i didnt memorize them on purpose
[17:59] (paladin)roMAD: yes
[17:59] Hot_Bid: rofl
[17:59] Hot_Bid: ur like some replay savant
[17:59] (paladin)roMAD: i automatically memorized them
[17:59] Hot_Bid: hahaha
[17:59] (paladin)roMAD: it's called screen memory rofl lol wtf!?! romad you are some sicko replay savant
romad is my savior hehe
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haha ya, i wonder really... Would be fun to know .. like who made up that acc?
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If supperapple is 2009, then it's Qoo)Clon. Could be shared though
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Someone know who noreply is?
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when he plays on NrG.Bamboo he loses games on purpose so nobody knows his true skill. i heard this from a credible source.
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On September 29 2008 10:39 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2008 04:50 SassO wrote:On September 28 2008 07:19 Valentine wrote:On September 28 2008 06:06 SassO wrote:
Evidence? it's not an investigation. I could say that someone that know Love really good has confirmed it for me... That should be enough. I think it's evidence enough for me to say that superapple is NrG.Bamboo. Superapple is Bamboo? uhm no. But it's coming from a man who knows Bamboo very well.. -___-;
hahahahahhaha
i love you dude
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On September 30 2008 01:15 Xeris wrote:when he plays on NrG.Bamboo he loses games on purpose so nobody knows his true skill. i heard this from a credible source.
Hah that's just bs , seriously i know this isnt him
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seriously how can you not see that they're just messing with you.
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Romanians have invaded Sweden.
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Chile)Dinot = duh >_<;
trek23ar = Trek
GosuLing = ToT)Ace(
Also LS became iG.LastShadow
One of the [jOin] players with their #'s = Say[jOin] playing off race.
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On September 30 2008 03:09 kroko wrote:
Romanians have invaded Sweden.
LOOOOL
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On September 30 2008 02:38 meRz wrote:
seriously how can you not see that they're just messing with you.
i understood that, but i was just playing along
and Tibs, no trek23ar is not Trek. i think not actually cause i've seen bw-trek and him logged in the same time.
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On September 30 2008 11:07 Tibs wrote:
GosuLing = ToT)Ace(
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No thats Sziky
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On September 30 2008 02:35 SassO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2008 01:15 Xeris wrote:when he plays on NrG.Bamboo he loses games on purpose so nobody knows his true skill. i heard this from a credible source. Hah that's just bs , seriously i know this isnt him
......you know nothing.
Seriously dude have you not caught on yet...
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On October 01 2008 05:07 20Nation wrote:No thats Sziky
I can confirm that.
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On September 30 2008 03:09 kroko wrote:
Romanians have invaded Sweden.
This would make a halarious news headline.
(sweden would win ^^;
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On October 01 2008 05:17 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2008 02:35 SassO wrote:On September 30 2008 01:15 Xeris wrote:when he plays on NrG.Bamboo he loses games on purpose so nobody knows his true skill. i heard this from a credible source. Hah that's just bs , seriously i know this isnt him ......you know nothing. Seriously dude have you not caught on yet...
What are you talking about?
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I play as HIV XD silly name i know lol
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On October 01 2008 06:14 SassO wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2008 05:17 arb wrote:On September 30 2008 02:35 SassO wrote:On September 30 2008 01:15 Xeris wrote:when he plays on NrG.Bamboo he loses games on purpose so nobody knows his true skill. i heard this from a credible source. Hah that's just bs , seriously i know this isnt him ......you know nothing. Seriously dude have you not caught on yet... What are you talking about?
Are you sure you're from sweden?
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On October 01 2008 06:23 jimminy_kriket wrote:![[image loading]](http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3817/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif)
Not that silly. I used to have Syphilis and Chlamydia as account names :o
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On October 01 2008 10:53 Tibs wrote:Not that silly. I used to have Syphilis and Chlamydia as account names :o
I had no fucking idea what you were talking about until I realized you probably quoted the wrong person.. lol T___T;
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who's this douche
http://sc.iccup.com/iccscprofile/394637/
he goes on a losing streak from B, almost gets kicked to C+, resets in middle of 30 minute game and opponent who beats him only gets +13
i just don't like people who do that, had it happen to me before =.=
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On October 04 2008 06:45 NoobsOfWrath wrote:who's this douche http://sc.iccup.com/iccscprofile/394637/he goes on a losing streak from B, almost gets kicked to C+, resets in middle of 30 minute game and opponent who beats him only gets +13 i just don't like people who do that, had it happen to me before =.=
Yea I dunno how hard it would be to do but they should make it so the server assigns points based on what the players' ranks were at the start of the match.
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Yeah Valentine I did, someone was talking about having the account AIDS or some STD of some sort.
ReMaGzL = LzGamer (its spelt backwards duh ^_^; )
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On October 01 2008 10:53 Tibs wrote:Not that silly. I used to have Syphilis and Chlamydia as account names :o
I like it more with the misquote .
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Well, I took them time to find who taekwon_v_ is NOT xP (drunk, human, goofy, or asura, dunno about rain (mym vs korea rep of him was not released).
edit: oh...but his matchlist is mainly terran...disregard.
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is that the first abuser you've ever seen?
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who is 1000.4 ? terran player, Pj just 1-1 him, 0 lose to B+ Pj said maybe vs him 10 game can win 2 game
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holy shit, but damn you pj for breaking his winning streak XD
is 61-1 even possible? wtf
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yea wufan, get the rep from PJ! =D
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Braavos36374 Posts
if we get that rep i'm sure romad can figure out who it is
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wow lol he took his third fast as hell
his macro is super duper good....13 minutes 5 bases and maxed with 2/1 almost done damn
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I think it's light[alive] but let's see what romad says.
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Woah I think nevake is right. 1000.4 and Light use 3and5 as CC and hotkey an scv each to 1 and 2 in the beginning of the game. Even the same factory hotkeys. Looks like Light[aLive] to me but let's get an expert opinion.
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yeah he is light without a doubt
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United States42250 Posts
On October 04 2008 06:51 Jonoman92 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2008 06:45 NoobsOfWrath wrote:who's this douche http://sc.iccup.com/iccscprofile/394637/he goes on a losing streak from B, almost gets kicked to C+, resets in middle of 30 minute game and opponent who beats him only gets +13 i just don't like people who do that, had it happen to me before =.= Yea I dunno how hard it would be to do but they should make it so the server assigns points based on what the players' ranks were at the start of the match.
It happens. Make a complaint and you get the right points and they get warned.
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holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit TERRAN IS EASY omfg
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On October 06 2008 06:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit TERRAN IS EASY omfg
Your confused. Terran is not easy, this guy just makes you think it is lol. Literally some of the best macro I have ever seen ><
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On October 06 2008 06:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit Light[Alive] makes Terran look EASY omfg
Fix'd.
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On October 06 2008 06:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit TERRAN IS EASY omfg
Good Lord.. that was crazy. Double expand before siege and vulture speed!? I thought only toss could do that. GG.
When are you going to do the TL Attack with Light? There was talk of it during the TL attack with Sea.
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Yea lol...now I know how to react to 14 nex in a way other than scv all in xD.
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for example brat_ok did the 3cc counter long ago in TSL, nothing new. But this guy 1000.4 was really good yes.
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On October 06 2008 07:54 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
for example brat_ok did the 3cc counter long ago in TSL, nothing new. But this guy 1000.4 was really good yes.
You are missing the point, it is not that it is new or something, but that it is a pretty unusual and daring reaction by the terr and that toss got raped to boot.
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On October 06 2008 00:47 linyu)wufan18 wrote:
who is 1000.4 ? terran player, Pj just 1-1 him, 0 lose to B+ Pj said maybe vs him 10 game can win 2 game
do you know who jWj is?
^.^
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On October 06 2008 09:56 Pads wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 00:47 linyu)wufan18 wrote:
who is 1000.4 ? terran player, Pj just 1-1 him, 0 lose to B+ Pj said maybe vs him 10 game can win 2 game do you know who jWj is? ^.^
According to last season, it's beckham.
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On October 06 2008 06:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit TERRAN IS EASY omfg
Ya that's why all good foreginers are protoss :\.... how many good foreign T's do you see right now?
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On October 06 2008 11:07 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 06:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit TERRAN IS EASY omfg Ya that's why all good foreginers are protoss :\.... how many good foreign T's do you see right now?
Bamboo and AeriALs.. nobody else is coming to mind right now.
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impressive carrier micro in game 2
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On October 06 2008 11:07 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 06:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit TERRAN IS EASY omfg Ya that's why all good foreginers are protoss :\.... how many good foreign T's do you see right now?
If you mean in the whole foreign scene.
Artosis, Yosh, IdrA, Brat_Ok, Androide, Strelok, Nyoken, Advokate, EX, and many others.
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On October 06 2008 13:34 DeadVessel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 11:07 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 06 2008 06:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit TERRAN IS EASY omfg Ya that's why all good foreginers are protoss :\.... how many good foreign T's do you see right now? If you mean in the whole foreign scene. Artosis, Yosh, IdrA, Brat_Ok, Androide, Strelok, Nyoken, Advokate, EX, and many others.
but how many of those would make the top5 or ten foreigners?
its no secret that there havent been many top tier terrans in the foreign community in the past several years
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On October 06 2008 13:44 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 13:34 DeadVessel wrote:On October 06 2008 11:07 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 06 2008 06:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit TERRAN IS EASY omfg Ya that's why all good foreginers are protoss :\.... how many good foreign T's do you see right now? If you mean in the whole foreign scene. Artosis, Yosh, IdrA, Brat_Ok, Androide, Strelok, Nyoken, Advokate, EX, and many others. but how many of those would make the top5 or ten foreigners? its no secret that there havent been many top tier terrans in the foreign community in the past several years
Idra is training in korea, and eventhough he minda messed up USA wcg, I still think he can fit into top 5 foreigners, and Strelok isnt number 2 on gosugamers ranking for nothing.. Yosh is also showing promising results.
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Braavos36374 Posts
well if 1000.4 is Light, it fully explains the 61-1 record lol
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how come he ALWAYS plays in EVERY season of iccup, does he just really like iccup or what lol
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HAHA PJ beat light @ python 2-0 then light beat him back by playing z what a funny dude
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On October 06 2008 17:28 Ash wrote:
HAHA PJ beat light @ python 2-0 then light beat him back by playing z what a funny dude
zerg is thezerg[alive]
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pj's always inconsistent, but he's definitely good enough to win games out of korean progamers. i'd like to watch the two python games and the bo3 against thezerg[alive] on python if it's possible.
thanks.
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On October 06 2008 09:56 Pads wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 00:47 linyu)wufan18 wrote:
who is 1000.4 ? terran player, Pj just 1-1 him, 0 lose to B+ Pj said maybe vs him 10 game can win 2 game do you know who jWj is? ^.^
Wasnt he supposed to be Beckham?
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On October 06 2008 13:34 DeadVessel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 11:07 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 06 2008 06:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit TERRAN IS EASY omfg Ya that's why all good foreginers are protoss :\.... how many good foreign T's do you see right now? If you mean in the whole foreign scene. Artosis, Yosh, IdrA, Brat_Ok, Androide, Strelok, Nyoken, Advokate, EX, and many others.
Ok now multiple that list by 10 and you have the names of all the protoss foreigners. Of those people, right now only yosh,idra,brat,strelok are good. Thats 4 people, in a scene with thousands of players.
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protoss is just better obv.
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On October 07 2008 06:42 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 13:34 DeadVessel wrote:On October 06 2008 11:07 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 06 2008 06:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:holy shit anyone who says protoss is easy look at this shit TERRAN IS EASY omfg Ya that's why all good foreginers are protoss :\.... how many good foreign T's do you see right now? If you mean in the whole foreign scene. Artosis, Yosh, IdrA, Brat_Ok, Androide, Strelok, Nyoken, Advokate, EX, and many others. Ok now multiple that list by 10 and you have the names of all the protoss foreigners. Of those people, right now only yosh,idra,brat,strelok are good. Thats 4 people, in a scene with thousands of players.
You're so stupid it's painful.
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man iccup is at least 2x tougher during korean hours compared to american hours.
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and theres always a sick amount of dodging, no one msgs me back when i msg them and only people with like 20-1 records msg me lol
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On October 06 2008 18:50 linyu)wufan18 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 17:28 Ash wrote:
HAHA PJ beat light @ python 2-0 then light beat him back by playing z what a funny dude zerg is thezerg[alive]
For the love of god please get those replays!!!!
..... PLEASE!
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On October 07 2008 11:45 DeadVessel wrote:
You're so stupid it's painful.
i agree with him, i'm stupid too ?
There are way more good toss than terran among foreigners. Let's make a list ?
JF, Nony, Dreiven, Localhost ( i don't care if he hacked, he still did well in WGC russia ), White Ra, Infernal, Cloud, Draco, Rondo, Pomi, Yaiba, Misterzzz, Gohan, G5, Fenix.
Already 15 and i'm quite sure that i forget some.
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On October 08 2008 21:31 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2008 18:50 linyu)wufan18 wrote:On October 06 2008 17:28 Ash wrote:
HAHA PJ beat light @ python 2-0 then light beat him back by playing z what a funny dude zerg is thezerg[alive] For the love of god please get those replays!!!! ..... PLEASE!
+1!
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Jared hush! Everyone knows protoss is extremely imbalanced and overrepresented in the foreign scene................................................ :D?
at least the latter is somewhat true
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toss has almost always been under repped in the korean scene.
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On October 08 2008 21:39 Boblion wrote:i agree with him, i'm stupid too ? There are way more good toss than terran among foreigners. Let's make a list ? JF, Nony, Dreiven, Localhost ( i don't care if he hacked, he still did well in WGC russia ), White Ra, Infernal, Cloud, Draco, Rondo, Pomi, Yaiba, Misterzzz, Gohan, G5, Fenix. Already 15 and i'm quite sure that i forget some.
You are totally right! There is more good foreign protosess in the foreign scene. Obviously non-koreans like the race that has to rely more on inteligence than mechanics for obvious reasons.
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On October 08 2008 21:39 Boblion wrote:i agree with him, i'm stupid too ? There are way more good toss than terran among foreigners. Let's make a list ? JF, Nony, Dreiven, Localhost ( i don't care if he hacked, he still did well in WGC russia ), White Ra, Infernal, Cloud, Draco, Rondo, Pomi, Yaiba, Misterzzz, Gohan, G5, Fenix. Already 15 and i'm quite sure that i forget some.
Now how many on that list can be considered top 10 players.
JF, NonY, ClouD maybe White-Ra. I'm discounting Draco because besides TSL he's not done anything lately?
The actual good terrans are in the top 10. IdrA can be considered top 10 right now, Yosh as well, Strelok, any of the top russians/strelok when they are active and doing leagues can be thrown into top 10-15. The actual ratio at the top is not as bad as he's making out.
The reason I called him stupid is because he goes from talking the ratio at the top being imbalanced then he ignores what I said and jumps right to bitching about protoss players in the overall scene. No shit there is an abundance of p players in the overall scene but at the actual top echelon it's relatively balanced with probably a few less actually dominating zergs.
By the way Aerials/Skeptical stop trolling you retard.
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On October 08 2008 21:39 Boblion wrote:i agree with him, i'm stupid too ? There are way more good toss than terran among foreigners. Let's make a list ? JF, Nony, Dreiven, Localhost ( i don't care if he hacked, he still did well in WGC russia ), White Ra, Infernal, Cloud, Draco, Rondo, Pomi, Yaiba, Misterzzz, Gohan, G5, Fenix. Already 15 and i'm quite sure that i forget some.
Let's make a list
JF - Strong overall
NonY - strong overall
Dreiven - good pvz, good pvp, weak pvt having that weak mu already relegates him out of the top 5 and top 10.
White-Ra - inconsistant in results and sometimes plays terribly.
Localhost - you have a few recent games of his from wcg russia and you put him at the top automatically?
Infernal - kind of inactive?
ClouD - strong overall
Draco - inactive, really sloppy play at times
Rondo - inactive?
Pomi - wtf? pomi played terrible in the russian wcg, he just played better than the others.
Yayba - sucks pvt
Mistrzzz - who cares?
Gohan - inactive
G5 - strong play overall if you look at WCG
Fenix - who cares? he's a cheesy player that abused a spam hack vs artosis in TSL which makes any win he gets up for speculation whether he hacked or not in the game.
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Dont hate on fenix hes the shit.
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I thought we had already confirmed that Superapple = NrG.Bamboo ?
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superapple = 2009 dont know his real aka.. i played him and after our games he transfered and wanted to play me again
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Stats that bad would surprise me a lot the way Cloud has been playing lately.
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On October 10 2008 12:29 Kwark wrote:Stats that bad would surprise me a lot the way Cloud has been playing lately.
Those aren't bad if he's playing Koreans.
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On October 10 2008 12:30 Louder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2008 12:29 Kwark wrote:Stats that bad would surprise me a lot the way Cloud has been playing lately. Those aren't bad if he's playing Koreans.
For a player like Carlo they are. 49 losses before B+? Unless ICC has gotten 3 or so ranks harder since last season there's no way.
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well if it is him it's now uncomfortable for him to admit, lol
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well he offraced twice since he transfered, he could have been playing random the entire time. Or playing during korean hours which is probably 2x harder
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On October 10 2008 13:22 jimminy_kriket wrote:
well he offraced twice since he transfered, he could have been playing random the entire time. Or playing during korean hours which is probably 2x harder
Random I'd believe. But I held my own at B last season korean times and still couldn't come close to Cloud in practice games. ICC could have gotten harder but Cloud has been training for spirit. He shouldn't lose more than a game before B- and it's only 8 wins to gain a rank. I honestly don't believe Cloud should have any more than 15ish losses to hit B+.
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Could be one of the other italian players cloud mentioned in the wcg italy thread.
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so basically wat ur saying is cloud isnt allowed to have more then 30 loses? give me a break B rank is hard let alone b+
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On October 10 2008 22:08 Murk wrote:
so basically wat ur saying is cloud isnt allowed to have more then 30 loses? give me a break B rank is hard let alone b+
It's hard but it's definitely not that hard. I have first hand knowledge of how hard it is and of how good Cloud is. Cloud is not going to lose games to B-s. 8 games per rank means he should make B in 48 wins. I'd be very surprised if he lost more than one or two in that time so I think maybe 52-3 is a reasonable assumption for reaching B rank as Cloud.
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On October 09 2008 00:49 DeadVessel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2008 21:39 Boblion wrote:On October 07 2008 11:45 DeadVessel wrote:
You're so stupid it's painful. i agree with him, i'm stupid too ? There are way more good toss than terran among foreigners. Let's make a list ? JF, Nony, Dreiven, Localhost ( i don't care if he hacked, he still did well in WGC russia ), White Ra, Infernal, Cloud, Draco, Rondo, Pomi, Yaiba, Misterzzz, Gohan, G5, Fenix. Already 15 and i'm quite sure that i forget some. Let's make a list JF - Strong overall NonY - strong overall Dreiven - good pvz, good pvp, weak pvt having that weak mu already relegates him out of the top 5 and top 10. White-Ra - inconsistant in results and sometimes plays terribly. Localhost - you have a few recent games of his from wcg russia and you put him at the top automatically? Infernal - kind of inactive? ClouD - strong overall Draco - inactive, really sloppy play at times Rondo - inactive? Pomi - wtf? pomi played terrible in the russian wcg, he just played better than the others. Yayba - sucks pvt Mistrzzz - who cares? Gohan - inactive G5 - strong play overall if you look at WCG Fenix - who cares? he's a cheesy player that abused a spam hack vs artosis in TSL which makes any win he gets up for speculation whether he hacked or not in the game.
Let's make another list:
Idra: so called gosu who is pro but still loss vs players like Nony, Dinot or even the " inconsistant" ( your words ) White Ra.
Nyoken: never been that great ( maybe somewhat inactive, i don't really know )
Androide: somewhat inactive and suck lately ( i mean he used to be wayyyyyyyy better ).
A2: same
EX: same
Brat_Ok: Good TvP, "ok" TvZ
Strelok: ok but still get completly destroyed by a "sloppy" ( your words ) Draco
Yosh: ok
and lol @ your comments on Draco and White Ra. If you call them sloppy, i guess that all the foreign T are complete garbage. They also have way more achievments than the Terrans that you named ( except maybe Androide because of his #2 at WCG ).
And about Pomi and Localhost they aren't maybe that great but they still played better than half of your Terran list during the last WCG Russia.
There are more Toss players among foreigners at high level, i'm sorry.
Edit: Also it is funny because you said "who cares" about Misterzzz then you said that Fenix is just an hacker but you forgot to say that G5 used a disc hack on purpose vs Misterzzz and Dimaga during TSL. ( "overall strong" was your comment about G5 ). Quite funny
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huh those lists, are pretty "uhh... ok..."
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kwark in all honesty i think ur being absulutly ridiculous, whats ur current rank and stats?
Maybe late season cloud can go 50-3 or w/e but were only like a month and half in ladder a-b is still always empty
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On October 10 2008 22:53 Murk wrote:
kwark in all honesty i think ur being absulutly ridiculous, whats ur current rank and stats?
Maybe late season cloud can go 50-3 or w/e but were only like a month and half in ladder a-b is still always empty
I got B with less than 30 losses last season. I practiced in friendlies a lot with Cloud last season. I didn't even come close to him. I got B+ last season with just 40 losses.
Seriously, B seems good but Cloud is a pretty decent margin above that. Enough that he will very rarely drop games to Bs.
Unless you've actively played at B rank and play regularly against Cloud (which I was fortunate enough to do <3 Carlo) you can't really judge.
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On October 10 2008 23:07 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2008 22:53 Murk wrote:
kwark in all honesty i think ur being absulutly ridiculous, whats ur current rank and stats?
Maybe late season cloud can go 50-3 or w/e but were only like a month and half in ladder a-b is still always empty I got B with less than 30 losses last season. I practiced in friendlies a lot with Cloud last season. I didn't even come close to him. I got B+ last season with just 40 losses. Seriously, B seems good but Cloud is a pretty decent margin above that. Enough that he will very rarely drop games to Bs. Unless you've actively played at B rank and play regularly against Cloud (which I was fortunate enough to do <3 Carlo) you can't really judge.
You're mistaken Sir.
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On October 10 2008 23:16 ToT)ParanOid( wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2008 23:07 Kwark wrote:On October 10 2008 22:53 Murk wrote:
kwark in all honesty i think ur being absulutly ridiculous, whats ur current rank and stats?
Maybe late season cloud can go 50-3 or w/e but were only like a month and half in ladder a-b is still always empty I got B with less than 30 losses last season. I practiced in friendlies a lot with Cloud last season. I didn't even come close to him. I got B+ last season with just 40 losses. Seriously, B seems good but Cloud is a pretty decent margin above that. Enough that he will very rarely drop games to Bs. Unless you've actively played at B rank and play regularly against Cloud (which I was fortunate enough to do <3 Carlo) you can't really judge. You're mistaken Sir.
It's really Carlo?
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Kwark you're still being absolutely ridiculous. If Cloud made a new account now and played it to B obviously he would have a lot better stats.
Getting to B without losses is no evaluation of skill AT ALL.
The koreans that has been playing on B past few weeks are several levels above top foreigners (mostly progamers and top amateurs, the channel A/B was totally deserted during foreigner times). Only recently has the foreigner incest been able to reach up to this rank. If I counted right there was only 3-4 foreigners above me when I got to B a little more than a week ago (I was fortunate winning a tour), and the koreans at B, B- and even C+ level decimated me at that point (and any top foreigner for that matter except lastshadow LOL).
I can't believe your argument is 'yeah I got to B+ so Carlo should get A- ez'. It doesn't work like that at all.
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On October 10 2008 23:23 Shauni wrote:
Kwark you're still being absolutely ridiculous. If Cloud made a new account now and played it to B obviously he would have a lot better stats.
Getting to B without losses is no evaluation of skill AT ALL.
The koreans that has been playing on B past few weeks are several levels above top foreigners (mostly progamers and top amateurs, the channel A/B was totally deserted during foreigner times). Only recently has the foreigner incest been able to reach up to this rank. If I counted right there was only 3-4 foreigners above me when I got to B a little more than a week ago (I was fortunate winning a tour), and the koreans at B, B- and even C+ level decimated me at that point.
I've not played this season but I was pretty active last season and was holding my own at B rank korean time. At the same time Carlo was helping me a lot with my game for wcg training and the margin between me and him was huge. The logical conclusion from that is that Cloud is going to lose very few games to B ranks. 49 losses by the time he reaches B is just ridiculous.
I haven't played since halfway through last season because I quit after WCG but I'd be shocked if it was that much harder this season. Add into that how hard Cloud has been training on spirit and he should be stronger than ever.
I could be wrong (and I'll ask him on msn when he gets back from blizzcon) but I would be very surprised.
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Some people in here have to realize a certain thing. Most of the time a good record doesn't mean the player is good. Also the players who have lots of games .. like B 250-300 or something like that have a lot of experience and are often REALLY REALLY good.
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1. This season is harder.
2. This season is still in its early stages which means B koreans are A level.
3. I don't care about the difference in skill between you and Carlo, but I can assure you that he is not immortal and is able to lose to A level koreans just like any other top foreigner.
4. The record is no evaluation of skill.
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On October 10 2008 23:32 Shauni wrote:
1. This season is harder.
2. This season is still in its early stages which means B koreans are A level.
3. I don't care about the difference in skill between you and Carlo, but I can assure you that he is not immortal and able to lose to A level koreans just like any other top foreigner.
We'll see. I know he can lose to A level koreans, I just don't think he should have run into 49 A level koreans before B rank ICC. That'd take sick game selection.
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On October 10 2008 23:29 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Some people in here have to realize a certain thing. Most of the time a good record doesn't mean the player is good. Also the players who have lots of games .. like B 250-300 or something like that have a lot of experience and are often REALLY REALLY good.
I disagree. If they're breaking even over that many games then they've reached their limit. Going 34-34 is enough to gain you a rank on motw at B so by that many games they're losing more than they're winning. The bad record at B means they are a B rank player. Nothing to be ashamed of obv. Whereas if they're B with 70-30 then they're obviously still winning more than they're losing and therefore B probably isn't their limit. They are B atm but if they kept playing until their stats were like 250-300 they'd be nearer A-.
Obviously we're talking small sample sizes and unless everyone kept playing until they couldn't gain any more points then there will always be a margin of error but the record does count for something. It's inaccurate because of dodging, racepicking and different hours but not meaningless. The B 250-300 is not potentially a B+ player. The B 70-30 might be.
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kwark to end all this, no 1 cares what u did LAST season, this season is brutal even C+ is kinda hard, its obviously cloud on that account, who else can get B this early season from that country,
your whole arguement as i said before is absuluty ridiculous, judging him becuase of his stats is outrageous, there is a reason why ladder a-b is ALWAYS empty cuz only koreans have reached that rank, and maybe a few dozen forigners if that
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Aside from the (pointless) speculation about relative skill levels, it could be guessed that the player on that account is training and not just playing to rank up. That is, trying new strategies, ironing out new builds, focusing on specific game aspects. For example, I generally don't play hard to win rank until the end of the season when pretty much everyone is where they belong. Earlier in the season I goof around a lot, do weird builds, off race, etc - simply because if i'm trying to get my best rank on ICCup I feel there's no point fighting A level players in D ranks. I'm sure I'm not the only one who sees it this way, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who plays ICCup with different mindsets altogether.
But seriously, the stats thing can be put to rest. In Spirit a lot of players had insane records but checking their opponents revealed that they were playing consistently vs people who had <50% win rates. And I've seen people with <50% win rates beat the guys who have 95% win rates. Stats just do not reflect skill on ICCup, period, and they never will. They can be completely, totally misleading.
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On October 11 2008 01:34 Murk wrote:
kwark to end all this, no 1 cares what u did LAST season, this season is brutal even C+ is kinda hard, its obviously cloud on that account, who else can get B this early season from that country,
your whole arguement as i said before is absuluty ridiculous, judging him becuase of his stats is outrageous, there is a reason why ladder a-b is ALWAYS empty cuz only koreans have reached that rank, and maybe a few dozen forigners if that
To end it all we should just ask Cloud which is what I said quite a few posts ago. Simply repeating an argument you made earlier isn't a "to end all this" thing.
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Could be Cloud (lol not easy to read correctly) if he's offracing or trying very funny strategies, otherwhise I also agree he should have better records, maybe bot 50-3 but if he played Koreans only something like 50-20 should be reasonable.He changed account and flag, that means he didn't have italian flag before, so he could also not be italian.
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Record doesn't matter at all....
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On October 09 2008 00:49 DeadVessel wrote:
Let's make a list
Fenix - who cares? he's a cheesy player that abused a spam hack vs artosis in TSL which makes any win he gets up for speculation whether he hacked or not in the game.
I'm like 99% positive he did to to iNcontroL also.
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So Fenix hacked? :O huh...
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so everyone hacked now? jesus christ
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And I suppose that white-ra is a noob because he has 62 losses at B+ when you had 40, right Kwark? ..
He's at 100-60 and been at B for like 80 games....and we all know white-ra is definitely way better than a B
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On October 10 2008 22:40 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2008 00:49 DeadVessel wrote:On October 08 2008 21:39 Boblion wrote:On October 07 2008 11:45 DeadVessel wrote:
You're so stupid it's painful. i agree with him, i'm stupid too ? There are way more good toss than terran among foreigners. Let's make a list ? JF, Nony, Dreiven, Localhost ( i don't care if he hacked, he still did well in WGC russia ), White Ra, Infernal, Cloud, Draco, Rondo, Pomi, Yaiba, Misterzzz, Gohan, G5, Fenix. Already 15 and i'm quite sure that i forget some. Let's make a list JF - Strong overall NonY - strong overall Dreiven - good pvz, good pvp, weak pvt having that weak mu already relegates him out of the top 5 and top 10. White-Ra - inconsistant in results and sometimes plays terribly. Localhost - you have a few recent games of his from wcg russia and you put him at the top automatically? Infernal - kind of inactive? ClouD - strong overall Draco - inactive, really sloppy play at times Rondo - inactive? Pomi - wtf? pomi played terrible in the russian wcg, he just played better than the others. Yayba - sucks pvt Mistrzzz - who cares? Gohan - inactive G5 - strong play overall if you look at WCG Fenix - who cares? he's a cheesy player that abused a spam hack vs artosis in TSL which makes any win he gets up for speculation whether he hacked or not in the game. Let's make another list: Idra: so called gosu who is pro but still loss vs players like Nony, Dinot or even the " inconsistant" ( your words ) White Ra. Nyoken: never been that great ( maybe somewhat inactive, i don't really know ) Androide: somewhat inactive and suck lately ( i mean he used to be wayyyyyyyy better ). A2: same EX: same Brat_Ok: Good TvP, "ok" TvZ Strelok: ok but still get completly destroyed by a "sloppy" ( your words ) Draco Yosh: ok and lol @ your comments on Draco and White Ra. If you call them sloppy, i guess that all the foreign T are complete garbage. They also have way more achievments than the Terrans that you named ( except maybe Androide because of his #2 at WCG ). And about Pomi and Localhost they aren't maybe that great but they still played better than half of your Terran list during the last WCG Russia. There are more Toss players among foreigners at high level, i'm sorry. Edit: Also it is funny because you said "who cares" about Misterzzz then you said that Fenix is just an hacker but you forgot to say that G5 used a disc hack on purpose vs Misterzzz and Dimaga during TSL. ( "overall strong" was your comment about G5 ). Quite funny
G5 is playing phenomenal now? We're talking about only now/recently. Go watch Draco's WCG games and come back and say it's not sloppy.
And the comment about Idra losing to Nony, there's not many top korean amateurs that could hold their own against nony. His play is immaculate.
Idra lost to Dinot and White-Ra months ago, you're a complete fool if you think that Idra isn't a top foreigner. Of course he'll drop games against some players but you also fail to realize he had immense pressure to perform at WCG by his coaches/team mates. You obviously don't understand how much that can affect a person.
btw white-ra is very inconsistant, he always pulls in decent results but there are times when he plays amazingly and other times he plays terribly.
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I also don't get why people expect Idra to come back and be a fucking all star after a few months in korea. If he still drops series vs foreigners 6 months from now you can start bashing him. Until then shut the hell up.
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My name on iccup is CoNtroL.
I've gotta ask something - is there a channel TL people go in? None of my friends are on b.net or iccup anymore and im trying a new race so yeh just wondering.
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On October 11 2008 12:55 DeadVessel wrote:
I also don't get why people expect Idra to come back and be a fucking all star after a few months in korea. If he still drops series vs foreigners 6 months from now you can start bashing him. Until then shut the hell up.
the amount of training idra is gettin down there, its obvious people expect to see a drastic change in his skill, hes still losing to the same people he was before he went to korea
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Let's make a little list.
Foreigner's play very differently from Koreans.
Idra has immense pressure on him for this WCG.
Did you watch the TvZ Idra won in GOM? That's a huge improvement.
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people expect it cause idra is super bm, super arrogant, and a dick, and people enjoy him doing badly
what the fuck else do you expect? it has nothing to do with his skill at all. he has no people skills and 80% of bw hates him.
it's like the idiots who insist mistrzzz sucks even though he's obviously at the least pretty good, simply because mistrzz is a total dumbass idiot
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On October 12 2008 09:24 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
it's like the idiots who insist mistrzzz sucks even though he's obviously at the least pretty good, simply because mistrzz is a total dumbass idiot
Don't be harsh with Deadvessel :<
I don't really care about Draco / White Ra being sloppy because even when they are inactive they are better than half ot the players you named.
You have also avoided some of my comments and answers regarding G5/ Fenix/ Misterzzz and Pomi / localhost / Russian terrans.
About Idra: Obviously he is a good player, i just wanted to say that even if he is good, he still isn't the best foreigner atm ( he needs to prove it, i don't care if he beats Yellow ). He is hated by many but there are also a lot of fanboys who overate him.
I would rank JF / Nony / Draco higher than him and even maybe White Ra ( just for protoss ).
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i think its funny that g5 owned idra at wcg fairly convincingly(idra played HORRIBLE tvp against g5 and nony, like seriously it was painful to watch), and g5 got owned in spirit repeatedly.
Makes you wonder how idra would have done in spirit ya?
I dont know what tourney he won to go to korea (it was played before I started paying attention to anything sc related again), but it must not have got much publicity.
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On October 12 2008 10:49 dream-_- wrote:
i think its funny that g5 owned idra at wcg fairly convincingly(idra played HORRIBLE tvp against g5 and nony, like seriously it was painful to watch), and g5 got owned in spirit repeatedly.
Makes you wonder how idra would have done in spirit ya?
I dont know what tourney he won to go to korea (it was played before I started paying attention to anything sc related again), but it must not have got much publicity.
You should probably think about the pressure that Idra has (as the only foreigner in korea). A LAN in which you are expected to win is much, much, much more pressure than an online ladder =p.
Idra beat all the americans and canadians and only lost once to a hacker (dino) to go to korea.
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who is 'all the americans and canadians'? can someone give me a link to this tourney plz.
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On October 12 2008 09:32 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2008 09:24 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
it's like the idiots who insist mistrzzz sucks even though he's obviously at the least pretty good, simply because mistrzz is a total dumbass idiot Don't be harsh with Deadvessel :< I don't really care about Draco / White Ra being sloppy because even when they are inactive they are better than half ot the players you named. You have also avoided some of my comments and answers regarding G5/ Fenix/ Misterzzz and Pomi / localhost / Russian terrans. About Idra: Obviously he is a good player, i just wanted to say that even if he is good, he still isn't the best foreigner atm ( he needs to prove it, i don't care if he beats Yellow ). He is hated by many but there are also a lot of fanboys who overate him. I would rank JF / Nony / Draco higher than him and even maybe White Ra ( just for protoss ).
Fenix is a 2nd class player compared to the others, people talked his win up vs idra to be way more than it was, he did a relatively all in build and got lucky because idra's tanks were slightly out of position. Of course Mistrzzz is decent but overall he's nothing special. He does nothing special lately. iirc there isn't a lot of definate evidence concerning G5 and he's proven already that he can hold his own in offline play. I mean his games with the usa vs euro event and wcg usa were amazing.
The difference between Idra and Mistrzzz is that Idra actually shows rays of hope and brilliant play at times (watch his win in GOM, that was phenomenal TvZ).
Everyone knows that Idra is abrasive but the blind hatred and blowing everything out of proportion is just as bad as the polish fanboys, etc.
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It's funny cause if Idra said this in a blog, but about someone else, and then someone wrote a reply like yours, Deadvessel, they would say LOL GOTCHA TROLLED EZILY
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DeadVessel , does Idra pay u for those comments ? mistrzzzzzzzzzzzz (the retarted polish guy, dont remember how to type his nick), is way better then g5/idra :O.... Proof, I saw phenomenal Mitrzzzzzz replay at gg.net.
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No? I support him because he's the only foreigner in Korea.
Your proof of Mistrzzz skill is 1 replay from GG.net? LOL
kroko did you even watch any of G5's replays from WCG USA or are you just talking out of your ass?
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MIStrZZZ is seriously one of the best foreign players. Not the best but top 10 almost for sure and a strong contender for top 5.
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On October 12 2008 17:09 jimminy_kriket wrote:
MIStrZZZ is seriously one of the best foreign players. Not the best but top 10 almost for sure and a strong contender for top 5.
no he isn't. Mistrzzz has lost about 4 clanwar matches vs light players , and none of our players are in the top 5 of foreign players.
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What's your point Xeris? Everyone loses sometimes. That's deadvessel whole point about idra blahblahblah doesn't always reflect pressures/don't care about the game etc etc blahblah
If there was money/real prizes on the line I'd bet Mistrzzz would own Light's players pretty hard
And I really dislike mistrzzz as a person so I'm certainly no fan of his
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i agree, you dont win nothing in clan wars, so who cares if u lose them. Now put some money on the line and lets see lol
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this game its balanced and u cant be top1 for long period. with hard training all can beat all so constantly players like mondragon / draco are best because even without training they can beat most players and play solid. others need to train hard and play most time to be in shape and play good.
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Mistrzzz is easily one of the top notch foreigners. Claiming otherwise is stupid.
He's not the most serious or well mannered guy, which is why so many hate him (I don't like him that much either). But still, he's got some skill, and his only real flaw is pvp I guess.
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On October 13 2008 01:45 meRz wrote:
Mistrzzz is easily one of the top notch foreigners. Claiming otherwise is stupid.
He's not the most serious or well mannered guy, which is why so many hate him (I don't like him that much either). But still, he's got some skill, and his only real flaw is pvp I guess.
True, and he has also beat draco offline in the past as well.
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Idra is good, hes just inconsistent. Im sure with time he will become more and more consistent and become a more dominant powerhouse
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Wtf this is "WHO IS WHO ICCUP SEASON 6". Not "FLAME IDRA FLAME IDRA FLAME IDRA SEASON 6". Damn I forgot what this thread was about for a minute because of all the flaming and I'm not learning any new akas..
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From what I have seen his tvz is great, but his tvt aint so hot and is tvp is just terrible. I am yet to see idra win a tvp, from any replay anywhere.
HOWEVER, is he as good as a B team korean? I would say yes. Does that mean he deserves his spot? Yes.
Will he get better? Most likely, but like it does with other B team koreans it could easily take 6 months to a year before he is on the same skill level as the A team players.
We have never seen a foreigner stay dedicated that long with the exception of assem and leg(wont get into why they didnt do as good, but no one in hexatron was doing anything at that point sooo). And of course elky/grr but thats before it was as difficult to be pro.
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Can u take away the "Maybe-X17 = By.cOzY" cause it ain't him
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On October 13 2008 06:49 SassO wrote:
Can u take away the "Maybe-X17 = By.cOzY" cause it ain't him
And why is that
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Uh, cause iknow it isn't him, already confirmed.
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So who is it then, and give some proof...
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On October 13 2008 01:45 meRz wrote:
Mistrzzz is easily one of the top notch foreigners. Claiming otherwise is stupid.
He's not the most serious or well mannered guy, which is why so many hate him (I don't like him that much either). But still, he's got some skill, and his only real flaw is pvp I guess.
didnt mistrzzz beat JF 2-0 in pvp then lose the last 3 games trying to win with his off race? wait..doesnt JF have good pvp?
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Misterzzz is good in the 3 match ups. Even his off races are not that bad.
Anyway i think it is time to stop the off topic.
POST SOME GOSU REPS FFS :D
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On October 13 2008 08:21 SassO wrote:
Uh, cause iknow it isn't him, already confirmed.
and why would we take your word for it? Do you have any proof such as a replay or anything?
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Look, I have known mistrzzz since he was just another random polish newb/idiot on wgtour who played 500 games a season and still couldnt get top 30.
What you have to realize about this guy is as much as he acts as if he doesnt care and doesnt try, its all to make people think "if he really tried he would win ez!"
He actually cares more about what people think of him than the average 'gosu' from what I have seen.
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On October 13 2008 06:49 SassO wrote:
Can u take away the "Maybe-X17 = By.cOzY" cause it ain't him
Thats not how this thread works. If you want something added/deleted you need to show solid reasoning for it.
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Grrr... is in Korea I thought? Unless he got someone to make the account for him or he's back in Canada maybe it's someone pretending to be him?
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On October 14 2008 07:49 DeadVessel wrote:
Grrr... is in Korea I thought? Unless he got someone to make the account for him or he's back in Canada maybe it's someone pretending to be him?
Yeah I'm pretty sure he did APT with Rekrul not to long ago.
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ya i played him, he ran me over lol
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I was hoping someone would have a Replay. I figured Ken[EBoD] would give his up if z0rg asked him for it, but so far no luck.
I was talking with FT.aCt)Dj and he said its probably the same guy who was using the fake FT.aCt) id FT.aCt)GiYom a few seasons ago. But you never know.
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On October 14 2008 10:02 Murk wrote:
TT1 is gonna up grrrr... vs ranged i refuse to release this rape to the public, your simply not old enough 18 or older
No, he's not.
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On October 14 2008 10:28 Louder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2008 10:02 Murk wrote:
TT1 is gonna up grrrr... vs ranged i refuse to release this rape to the public, your simply not old enough 18 or older No, he's not.
Oh yes he is
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On October 11 2008 01:34 Murk wrote:
kwark to end all this, no 1 cares what u did LAST season, this season is brutal even C+ is kinda hard, its obviously cloud on that account, who else can get B this early season from that country,
your whole arguement as i said before is absuluty ridiculous, judging him becuase of his stats is outrageous, there is a reason why ladder a-b is ALWAYS empty cuz only koreans have reached that rank, and maybe a few dozen forigners if that
David - KwarK says:
hi
Carlo says:
hi
David - KwarK says:
are you RailHeaven on icc?
Carlo says:
nope
David - KwarK says:
thanks
Carlo says:
i just made a new id
Carlo says:
haven't played this season
David - KwarK says:
there was a discussion on tl in the icc topic
David - KwarK says:
i was saying i didn't think it was you
David - KwarK says:
others were saying it was ITA and therefore must be you
Carlo says:
rofl
Carlo says:
no way i would have such shitty stats at b
David - KwarK says:
:D
Carlo says:
he might be fake
David - KwarK says:
this is what i was saying
On behalf of myself I'd just like to give a big fuck you to Murk.
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WARNING !!! LOGS INCOMING :D
nm.. I don't dislike you kwark
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On October 14 2008 23:52 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2008 01:34 Murk wrote:
kwark to end all this, no 1 cares what u did LAST season, this season is brutal even C+ is kinda hard, its obviously cloud on that account, who else can get B this early season from that country,
your whole arguement as i said before is absuluty ridiculous, judging him becuase of his stats is outrageous, there is a reason why ladder a-b is ALWAYS empty cuz only koreans have reached that rank, and maybe a few dozen forigners if that Show nested quote +David - KwarK says:
hi
Carlo says:
hi
David - KwarK says:
are you RailHeaven on icc?
Carlo says:
nope
David - KwarK says:
thanks
Carlo says:
i just made a new id
Carlo says:
haven't played this season
David - KwarK says:
there was a discussion on tl in the icc topic
David - KwarK says:
i was saying i didn't think it was you
David - KwarK says:
others were saying it was ITA and therefore must be you
Carlo says:
rofl
Carlo says:
no way i would have such shitty stats at b
David - KwarK says:
:D
Carlo says:
he might be fake
David - KwarK says:
this is what i was saying
On behalf of myself I'd just like to give a big fuck you to Murk.
Nobody said it had to be him.
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My point was that I thought the stats would be pretty bad for Cloud and that I'd be surprised if it was him although I'd ask him on msn when he got back. Murks point was that it was obviously Cloud (as he said in that quote) and that I was an idiot for thinking that Cloud wouldn't lose 50 games to people before B. What can I say, I enjoy absolute vindication.
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i never said it was cloud, i just said ur whole point was stupid and invalid, so on behalf of myself i'd like to give a big fuck u to you kwark lol, Yet again ur lost in the sauce
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On October 15 2008 00:55 Murk wrote:
i never said it was cloud, i just said ur whole point was stupid and invalid, so on behalf of myself i'd like to give a big fuck u to you kwark lol, Yet again ur lost in the sauce
On October 11 2008 01:34 Murk wrote:
kwark to end all this, no 1 cares what u did LAST season, this season is brutal even C+ is kinda hard, its obviously cloud on that account, who else can get B this early season from that country,
your whole arguement as i said before is absuluty ridiculous, judging him becuase of his stats is outrageous, there is a reason why ladder a-b is ALWAYS empty cuz only koreans have reached that rank, and maybe a few dozen forigners if that
On October 11 2008 01:34 Murk wrote:
judging him becuase of his stats is outrageous
Cloud says:
no way i would have such shitty stats at b
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On October 15 2008 01:15 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2008 00:55 Murk wrote:
i never said it was cloud, i just said ur whole point was stupid and invalid, so on behalf of myself i'd like to give a big fuck u to you kwark lol, Yet again ur lost in the sauce Show nested quote +On October 11 2008 01:34 Murk wrote:
kwark to end all this, no 1 cares what u did LAST season, this season is brutal even C+ is kinda hard, its obviously cloud on that account, who else can get B this early season from that country,
your whole arguement as i said before is absuluty ridiculous, judging him becuase of his stats is outrageous, there is a reason why ladder a-b is ALWAYS empty cuz only koreans have reached that rank, and maybe a few dozen forigners if that That and Cloud agreed with my point about the stats entirely. So there's no part of your criticism that stands.
Talk about calling someone out and pretty much owning them, well played good sir.
So, now we only need to get this thread back on track...some A.K.A.'s?
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can we all agree Murk pretty much got owned haha
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yup thats a own right there
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HorribleTerran is Me. I am Horrible ^_^ but no one cares whose the new #1 person blah i wanna know
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You guys worry way too much about people other than yourself lol. It's ok to speculate if you think someone is smurfing(that's what this post is about), but you guys have like 3 pages of arguments over it lol and it relates to neither of you.
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Ya. Who is Who Season 6 always turns out to be Who Owns Who instead.
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Just get ahold of the thread starter and ask them to change the thread title
Is Bugg (http://sc.iccup.com/iccscprofile/344259/) getting Pj to smurf for him again? Cause I never truly remember him being better than a C+/B- level.
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Whoever is playing on Bugg this season he's playing all T.
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Yeah I figured it wasnt him at him at all. He's like a C+ max Protoss, had Pj get him to A- last season for Spirit, then busted.
So it wouldnt surprise me if he's getting some other random player to play for him.
I dont understand why players get busted with hacks, busted with other players playing for them, and yet their still allowed to play in league play/ladder. Its seriously ugly.
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-Become- could be GeN with a shot in the dark.
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On October 15 2008 05:55 meRz wrote:
Ya. Who is Who Season 6 always turns out to be Who Owns Who instead.
Quoted for truth and laughs.
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I repeat - is there a channel people in tl go to? T_T
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On October 15 2008 18:59 Camlito wrote:
I repeat - is there a channel people in tl go to? T_T
op TL-Train for korean - style training
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yeah, i've been there.. But so little people in that channel "TL-Train"
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lol target self promotion is never a good thing
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Looks like he just picked bad record players.. just look at his match list. His record and previous season record seemed pretty impressive until I saw his matchlist lol.
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its not just him, its the average player. Dont judge him because of his stats, or soon we will be calling lastshadow gosu ..... Good records dont mean shit, from my experience 7 out of 10 ppl with good records are garbage players only that small 3 actually good. Atleast until B rank anything after B rank and still good stats, player good
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On October 16 2008 08:31 Murk wrote:
its not just him, its the average player. Dont judge him because of his stats, or soon we will be calling lastshadow gosu ..... Good records dont mean shit, from my experience 7 out of 10 ppl with good records are garbage players only that small 3 actually good. Atleast until B rank anything after B rank and still good stats, player good
That's precisely why I looked at his matchlist; I don't trust any decently good records from a foreigner I havn't heard of, least of all this early in the season. The way I've seen it is that honestly, most of the players with bad looking records at high rank (300-200 B+ or something), they usually are much better than the people with insanely great records (who aren't Korean, of course).
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On October 16 2008 09:36 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2008 08:31 Murk wrote:
its not just him, its the average player. Dont judge him because of his stats, or soon we will be calling lastshadow gosu ..... Good records dont mean shit, from my experience 7 out of 10 ppl with good records are garbage players only that small 3 actually good. Atleast until B rank anything after B rank and still good stats, player good That's precisely why I looked at his matchlist; I don't trust any decently good records from a foreigner I havn't heard of, least of all this early in the season. The way I've seen it is that honestly, most of the players with bad looking records at high rank (300-200 B+ or something), they usually are much better than the people with insanely great records (who aren't Korean, of course).
PJ and White-Ra are good examples of this
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On October 16 2008 10:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
grrr.. isn't giyom
On October 14 2008 11:21 jimminy_kriket wrote:
he is tt1
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On October 15 2008 20:59 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2008 18:59 Camlito wrote:
I repeat - is there a channel people in tl go to? T_T op TL-Train for korean - style training
Thanks! Sounds scary though.
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Was there a 100% verify that it is TT1?
I know someone uploaded a replay, did Romad or anyone cross-check it?
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Well, the replays given were pretty short, but it was enough to tell that it was tt1 sort of.
1) 1 is the probe, 3 is the nexus
2) The 2 games had a significant difference in APM (18x and 21x or something similar to that), so the toss player probably would have had lower apm in a longer game (like tt1).
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99% of all protoss is TT1 playing on different accounts obviously.
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lol uglytoss, what a very thoughtful name Nony
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Didn't he retire? That's what I thought. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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He was just on GomTV, so
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On October 17 2008 03:30 Target1 wrote:
"1 is the probe 3 is the nexus"
that covers 99% of protoss must be tt1
Huh why would you do that? 3p sucks bigtime, most toss have like 1-4unit 5-8 gate and 9-0 nex or something similiar
You wouldn't believe how many protoss actually would be your 1%!
Lazy canadians just dont use more than 5 hotkeys lolol!
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i dont know if iccup got harder or just i havent played in awhile but this season is haard.
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I'm not having all that much trouble this season- except terrans. I havent even beaten one yet. Though, I am beating zergs and protosses very consistently, something I have not done before.
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On October 17 2008 10:57 iNfeRnaL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2008 03:30 Target1 wrote:
"1 is the probe 3 is the nexus"
that covers 99% of protoss must be tt1 Huh why would you do that? 3p sucks bigtime, most toss have like 1-4unit 5-8 gate and 9-0 nex or something similiar You wouldn't believe how many protoss actually would be your 1%! Lazy canadians just dont use more than 5 hotkeys lolol!
If you play random like target does, or at least P/T, then your nexus seems to settle more on 3. If you started as a P and stayed that way then it ends up early game 9/0
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or on 4 like most progamers put their nexus.
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On October 20 2008 02:52 eXigent. wrote:who is minko? profileHe recently played in an iccup tournament, and beat both target and lastshadow. Here are some replays. vs targetvs lastshadow
Are those good?
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On October 20 2008 02:56 SassO wrote:Are those good?
It's a who's who thread. He is from america, and has beaten B rank players. Thus, I posted asking who he is. Is that not the point of this thing? 0o
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On October 20 2008 02:52 eXigent. wrote:who is minko? profileHe recently played in an iccup tournament, and beat both target and lastshadow. Here are some replays. vs targetvs lastshadow
seeing lastshadow's rep
You are the spamming king young and not sweet only seventeen
( ill stop )
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On October 20 2008 03:30 eXigent. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2008 02:56 SassO wrote:On October 20 2008 02:52 eXigent. wrote:who is minko? profileHe recently played in an iccup tournament, and beat both target and lastshadow. Here are some replays. vs targetvs lastshadow Are those good? It's a who's who thread. He is from america, and has beaten B rank players. Thus, I posted asking who he is. Is that not the point of this thing? 0o
I played him in the tour. He couldn't speak english and was korean, so I doubt he is american by other means than the flag...
He was a pretty good zerg with 350 apm but I won in a close 2-1 series.
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Target's a cheeser and lastshalol abused to B+ so that isn't too big of an accomplishment. Just another average korean imo
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According to ygosu rep, catrienmaxwell=minbong_v_
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I wonder who Turakon is.
German match-up player apparently, so I have no general idea who it can be sitting at 31-1 C+ stats (only people I would think it would be would be Infinity[pG] or poxxelo since Ive never seen Mondi or Selector ever play Terran before)
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On October 22 2008 03:00 Tibs wrote:I wonder who Turakon is. German match-up player apparently, so I have no general idea who it can be sitting at 31-1 C+ stats (only people I would think it would be would be Infinity[pG] or poxxelo since Ive never seen Mondi or Selector ever play Terran before)
Any B-/B level player can go undefeated up to C+... If you look at his matchlist it really isn't that impressive.
I'm not saying to sound cocky, just that there's a lot of german players to choose from. But I don't know any racepickers from germany so I'm not sure.
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On October 22 2008 03:00 Tibs wrote:I wonder who Turakon is. German match-up player apparently, so I have no general idea who it can be sitting at 31-1 C+ stats (only people I would think it would be would be Infinity[pG] or poxxelo since Ive never seen Mondi or Selector ever play Terran before)
If I'm not mistaken, Mondi does play T and P on occasion. . . I guess he could be C level with those races. I cannot imagine any other german achieving that, but I am not really familiar with their players.
Remember someone showing me some WGT reps of mondi playing T.
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both mondis p and t are very good, easily capable of getting to the B ranks with 0 losses this late in the season.
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Indeed, Mondi is also very good with terran!
If there's doubts about his P he was already B+ with like 80% at icc with it once!
But I really don't know if its him! *lala
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Busted!
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I knew Mondi played P, never knew he was T capable.
I dont know about any other top tier Zergs, I mean im Zerg only at a B 1;1 level, but I can play PvT at a decent level maybe C/C+ max, and my T is unbearably shitty ^_^;
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No the pole that made the ID was a zerg!
But now its someone else!
(Not a pole!)
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MIStrZZZ is using the ID L3G3ND or sth, possibily LEG3ND
top one on polish ladder for now anyway.
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On October 22 2008 07:24 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Indeed, Mondi is also very good with terran!
If there's doubts about his P he was already B+ with like 80% at icc with it once!
But I really don't know if its him! *lala
Yeah, 6th probe proxy gates in enemy base on Blue storm can be very strong.
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Too bad his games didn't last like 5 minutes each... stop talking shit pls lol
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Lol, why discussing this infernal?
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On October 22 2008 08:33 Tibs wrote:Busted!
Not mondragon ;D
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I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol
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On October 22 2008 21:18 Murk wrote:
I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol
When you are practicing for tournaments you don't want people to know who you are and how you play. This is the reason every progamer never used his own id to play ladders. Not using smurf ids would be good only for players who have yet to become famous and be recognized by other good ones.
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I think it might be Draco ID fit to him and his match list seems like draco. http://sc.iccup.com/iccscprofile/406850/ use to be protoss but he played zerg and terran in low ranks. Imo its Draco Since L3GEND is mistrzzz Simomo is Dreiven so no idea who can be polish Toss with that stats : p
DRACO!
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On October 22 2008 05:51 meathook wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 03:00 Tibs wrote:I wonder who Turakon is. German match-up player apparently, so I have no general idea who it can be sitting at 31-1 C+ stats (only people I would think it would be would be Infinity[pG] or poxxelo since Ive never seen Mondi or Selector ever play Terran before) If I'm not mistaken, Mondi does play T and P on occasion. . . I guess he could be C level with those races. I cannot imagine any other german achieving that, but I am not really familiar with their players. Remember someone showing me some WGT reps of mondi playing T.
Mondi was a gosu P long before he became someone playing Z. I have 1.09 reps of him playing some old-schoolers and remember thinking he was gosu even back then. So his P is definitely strong... Perhaps a bit rusty these days, but I'm sure he could shape up in no time if he really wanted to.
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i remember 3-0'ing mondragon pvt on lost temple a LOOOOOONG time ago. then i quit for a while and came back and mondi was superstar and i was still trash for years to come~ :O
he's spent time with all 3 races and he's so bw-smart that he can adjust quickly. but i dont know why he'd waste practice time with WCG coming up
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On October 23 2008 01:07 Tomcat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 05:51 meathook wrote:On October 22 2008 03:00 Tibs wrote:I wonder who Turakon is. German match-up player apparently, so I have no general idea who it can be sitting at 31-1 C+ stats (only people I would think it would be would be Infinity[pG] or poxxelo since Ive never seen Mondi or Selector ever play Terran before) If I'm not mistaken, Mondi does play T and P on occasion. . . I guess he could be C level with those races. I cannot imagine any other german achieving that, but I am not really familiar with their players. Remember someone showing me some WGT reps of mondi playing T. Mondi was a gosu P long before he became someone playing Z. I have 1.09 reps of him playing some old-schoolers and remember thinking he was gosu even back then. So his P is definitely strong... Perhaps a bit rusty these days, but I'm sure he could shape up in no time if he really wanted to.
Hahaha.. I love how you put it there - "someone playing zerg". . . "He became one of them."
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On October 22 2008 22:38 iG.ClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 21:18 Murk wrote:
I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol When you are practicing for tournaments you don't want people to know who you are and how you play. This is the reason every progamer never used his own id to play ladders. Not using smurf ids would be good only for players who have yet to become famous and be recognized by other good ones.
and what tournament are u practicing for???????
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oh yes forgot about wcg, so who all is going?
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Wrong fucking thread Murk.
Edit: nametaken is NOT Draco. I can tell that for about 200% sure!
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On October 22 2008 21:18 Murk wrote:
I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol
Because when people beat you they brag about it until you retire.
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kara is good but he can't go 57-9 B.
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On October 23 2008 09:55 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 21:18 Murk wrote:
I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol Because when people beat you they brag about it until you retire.
On east maybe...... but other servers? come on but cloud made a good point with the tournaments, but that isnt everyones excuse
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Murk, if you beat Stork or Fantasy or Flash what would you say? Would you show the replay to everyone? Probably upload it to tl.net / gg.net for the replay section?
Of course you would
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but when i compare hotkeys, wont i find out its him anyways? After all this who is who thread really defeats the purpose of smurfing, you cant hide from romad ~
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On October 23 2008 10:18 DeadVessel wrote:
kara is good but he can't go 57-9 B.
can he go 57-10 B?
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On October 23 2008 09:55 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 21:18 Murk wrote:
I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol Because when people beat you they brag about it until you retire.
because people in lower ranks will 4pool you every game if you dont smurf
and to be a top foreigner you have to be a bit of a stats whore
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On October 23 2008 13:14 XCetron wrote:
fix your OP, chava!
what do i need to fix?
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On October 23 2008 13:40 littlechava wrote:what do i need to fix?
my nick -_-
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On October 23 2008 13:16 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2008 09:55 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 22 2008 21:18 Murk wrote:
I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol Because when people beat you they brag about it until you retire. because people in lower ranks will 4pool you every game if you dont smurf and to be a top foreigner you have to be a bit of a stats whore
Untrue. Top foreigners that are smurfer sometimes have garbage records, you just don't know it because they are smurfing of course . I've seen some ugly records in my time lol
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On October 23 2008 15:29 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2008 13:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 23 2008 09:55 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 22 2008 21:18 Murk wrote:
I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol Because when people beat you they brag about it until you retire. because people in lower ranks will 4pool you every game if you dont smurf and to be a top foreigner you have to be a bit of a stats whore Untrue. Top foreigners that are smurfer sometimes have garbage records, you just don't know it because they are smurfing of course . I've seen some ugly records in my time lol
i totally agree i've seen alot too!
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Records doesn't mean anything. Lots of times a player with a bad record but lots of games is stronger than a player who has a good record, but picked opponents.
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truetrue...
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I think that nameteken is mistrzzz cuz he is playing usually with rnd and LEG3ND is one of his fans
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On October 23 2008 21:10 SassO wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2008 15:29 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 23 2008 13:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 23 2008 09:55 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 22 2008 21:18 Murk wrote:
I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol Because when people beat you they brag about it until you retire. because people in lower ranks will 4pool you every game if you dont smurf and to be a top foreigner you have to be a bit of a stats whore Untrue. Top foreigners that are smurfer sometimes have garbage records, you just don't know it because they are smurfing of course . I've seen some ugly records in my time lol i totally agree i've seen alot too!
you just made my point, this is why they all smurf, VERY few can use that tournament excuse.
the fact is majority of these guys are VERY overrated
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On October 24 2008 03:19 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2008 21:10 SassO wrote:On October 23 2008 15:29 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 23 2008 13:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 23 2008 09:55 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 22 2008 21:18 Murk wrote:
I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol Because when people beat you they brag about it until you retire. because people in lower ranks will 4pool you every game if you dont smurf and to be a top foreigner you have to be a bit of a stats whore Untrue. Top foreigners that are smurfer sometimes have garbage records, you just don't know it because they are smurfing of course . I've seen some ugly records in my time lol i totally agree i've seen alot too! you just made my point, this is why they all smurf, VERY few can use that tournament excuse. the fact is majority of these guys are VERY overrated
just because a player doesn't have a good record doesn't mean he is overrated ? look at lastshadow for example, he's like 48-5 B+ or someshit so according to his ICCUP record that puts him in the top 10 non koreans or something? Obviously not true. Then you have a player like infernal or something who if I recall had a kinda bad record on his smurf last season, or even look at White-Ra... 800 games at 55% winrate or something, but he's one of the best. Good players smurf so they can play in peace, without having their f list spam them all the time, without having people try to play faggoty vs them (I.E lots of people will try to cheese out a win vs a good player so they can brag about it), etc.
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On October 24 2008 07:07 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2008 03:19 Murk wrote:On October 23 2008 21:10 SassO wrote:On October 23 2008 15:29 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 23 2008 13:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 23 2008 09:55 SkepTicAL wrote:On October 22 2008 21:18 Murk wrote:
I dont understand why all these players need to smurf... what are they so afraid of lol Because when people beat you they brag about it until you retire. because people in lower ranks will 4pool you every game if you dont smurf and to be a top foreigner you have to be a bit of a stats whore Untrue. Top foreigners that are smurfer sometimes have garbage records, you just don't know it because they are smurfing of course . I've seen some ugly records in my time lol i totally agree i've seen alot too! you just made my point, this is why they all smurf, VERY few can use that tournament excuse. the fact is majority of these guys are VERY overrated just because a player doesn't have a good record doesn't mean he is overrated ? look at lastshadow for example, he's like 48-5 B+ or someshit so according to his ICCUP record that puts him in the top 10 non koreans or something? Obviously not true. Then you have a player like infernal or something who if I recall had a kinda bad record on his smurf last season, or even look at White-Ra... 800 games at 55% winrate or something, but he's one of the best. Good players smurf so they can play in peace, without having their f list spam them all the time, without having people try to play faggoty vs them (I.E lots of people will try to cheese out a win vs a good player so they can brag about it), etc.
So if thats the case, why when they have a good record with good rank like B B+ they suddenly switch back to their normal acc? if they want to play in peace why not smurf all season? Take TT1 for example
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how many times is murk going to get owned in this thread? lol
i go all in and say 2 more times
(See page 28)
i just skimmed through the thread but anyone know who dimandback is? is he just a no name player?
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Owned in wat he took pieces of a conversation and made it look like my origional arguement was about cloud, when infact i wasent even the one that brought it up, what i was talking about is how kwark was saying records matter, and my argument was, if thats the case then i guess were calling lastshadow gosu, if you actually take the time to read my post and not the edited garbage kwark did you would see that. which is why i didnt even bother to respond to that until you brought it up now. And in this situation no 1 is even argueing i asked a simple question and got 3 different answere's and Cloud's was the only 1 that made sense
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On October 24 2008 07:25 Murk wrote:
Owned in wat he took pieces of a conversation and made it look like my origional arguement was about cloud, when infact i wasent even the one that brought it up, what i was talking about is how kwark was saying records matter, and my argument was, if thats the case then i guess were calling lastshadow gosu, if you actually take the time to read my post and not the edited garbage kwark did you would see that. which is why i didnt even bother to respond to that until you brought it up now. And in this situation no 1 is even argueing i asked a simple question and got 3 different answere's and Cloud's was the only 1 that made sense
Owned in as much as you called me an idiot for saying Cloud would have far better stats than that. I gave you an out pretty early on by saying I'd just ask him but you kept at it. And then when I did ask him not only did he confirm it wasn't him but also said he'd have far better stats than that. So you were wrong about it being Cloud and wrong about the stats being worse than Cloud would have. And then you lied about it which given tl has a quote function is a pretty stupid thing to do.
So yeah, you were owned.
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On October 24 2008 07:54 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2008 07:25 Murk wrote:
Owned in wat he took pieces of a conversation and made it look like my origional arguement was about cloud, when infact i wasent even the one that brought it up, what i was talking about is how kwark was saying records matter, and my argument was, if thats the case then i guess were calling lastshadow gosu, if you actually take the time to read my post and not the edited garbage kwark did you would see that. which is why i didnt even bother to respond to that until you brought it up now. And in this situation no 1 is even argueing i asked a simple question and got 3 different answere's and Cloud's was the only 1 that made sense Owned in as much as you called me an idiot for saying Cloud would have far better stats than that. I gave you an out pretty early on by saying I'd just ask him but you kept at it. And then when I did ask him not only did he confirm it wasn't him but also said he'd have far better stats than that. So you were wrong about it being Cloud and wrong about the stats being worse than Cloud would have. And then you lied about it which given tl has a quote function is a pretty stupid thing to do. So yeah, you were owned.
If you could show me where in any of my post i called you an idiot, id like to see i did a quick check and i couldnt find it, i said it was cloud in 1 post, i was wrong clearly, but if thats what u call owned my origional post stands your being ridiuclous, to be honest who knows what stats cloud would have this early season, cuz hes either "not playing" or smurfing and im sure when month 3 comes around were going to be seeing a whole lot of 50-3 records etc, I still see nothing wrong with 80-40 B stats or w.e they were something like that and that was like wat 2 weeks about? maybe week and a half. those stats could of been from day 1 of the new season you cant tell me those are bad stats. i was wrong about cloud but my origional point still stands judging stats for skill is crazy, look at pj's stats, white-ra's stats he never has a good record but hes good plenty of good people have bad records, and i find it funny cause you already know my arguement was about judging stats, so why ur so hooked on ur 1 little cloud point is beyond me.
P.S. Cloud are you that Cleaned 40-2 !?
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God just shut up Murk, stop derailing this thread.
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I can't get it, just because ur good u don't need to have "godly stats" like 50-1 etc. I've seen alot of good players having bad stats or ratio like 50% does it matter if u got bad ratio ? U still win the same ranking players.
And some are just playing iccup for training, that means they don't give a shit about records... Like me i play just to get better, i don't care about records at all. But i never said i was top player but i think u should game just to learn more.
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so.. who is nametaken o,o?
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someone told me nametaken = ClouD
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Woulda never guessed that :\
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anyone know who missisauce is? top ranked canadian and currently 36 in the ladder, seems like his he plays all races and all matchups. any ideas?
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ahh i really hope he isnt TT1, oldy or JF. Someone should try to get a rep of him.
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On October 27 2008 23:29 Pads wrote:
anyone know who missisauce is? top ranked canadian and currently 36 in the ladder, seems like his he plays all races and all matchups. any ideas?
hes yaukja from east im about 80% sure lol
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It's bw-tidy, and yes he match up selects lol. He doesnt play vs protoss at all and plays tvz and pvt only lol.
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yakuja i think ^^ was really aka and yea bw-tidy ^^
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i think h_falcon_w = h_falcon_w -_-
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On October 28 2008 04:34 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2008 23:29 Pads wrote:
anyone know who missisauce is? top ranked canadian and currently 36 in the ladder, seems like his he plays all races and all matchups. any ideas? hes yaukja from east im about 80% sure lol
wheres your proof?
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Dieter
Or, well D|33ter. The oldschool canuck. I didn't know he was still playing. Old times...old times.
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On October 28 2008 06:27 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2008 04:34 Murk wrote:On October 27 2008 23:29 Pads wrote:
anyone know who missisauce is? top ranked canadian and currently 36 in the ladder, seems like his he plays all races and all matchups. any ideas? hes yaukja from east im about 80% sure lol wheres your proof?
Him coming into op team-light everyday and everyone addressing him by hackuja should be proof enough.
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Where did TT1 transfer from?
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oh right i forgot about that
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Nal_One = TT1, and missicuase its yakuja 100% :D
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missisauce is BW-tidy, thats 100% coming from me, a BW- member.
And what do you mean hackuja, did he hack? Im not aware of that.
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who the heck is this pro? damnit
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On October 28 2008 17:17 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Notable = TheZerg[Alive]
can we get a confirmation on this? yes yakuja hacked before
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NaH_Kracken=LG)Stym? he play zvz zvp pvt same like stym! can some tell us?
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I checked that one also its the same guy.
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On October 29 2008 04:54 Tarmak_mk wrote:
NaH_Kracken=LG)Stym? he play zvz zvp pvt same like stym! can some tell us?
He is Deska
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I'm going to try to reach A- this week. Watch me fail hard and hit C+ instead.
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lol that dude is 71-2 now, must be some S-class progamer or something
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On October 29 2008 07:29 Shauni wrote:I'm going to try to reach A- this week. Watch me fail hard and hit C+ instead.
only 550 more points to go!
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I should really step my game up  I mean there are quite a handful of B / B+ players I have ~50% records with, yet I don't ever seem to make it past B-. Strange...heh. Oh well, practice week incoming! (Taking a game off Castro, even on a P-favored map like Longinus is a good start for a noob like me anyway - too bad I lost the first one which I was winning )
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1-2 games mean nothing q_q but anyways who is that 7x-2 or something wtf q_q
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I kept saying the same, but now that there are plenty...I'm convinced that I should be able to do better, that is all
Obviously getting lucky once or twice, or even ten times doesn't count for shit
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Taking a game off castro surmounts to surviving a speedling break.
Seriously though. The dude somehow pulled it off 3 times in a row until I learned that's all he ever does.
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Naib u're pure bm user in iccup! XD
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I won't deny that I can be pretty BM / frustrated (due to various reasons, one being IRL lately when I just wanna chill with SC, or some dumb mistakes of my own), but calling me pure BM...I take that as a kind joke, that's how I interpret your post.
Oh and regarding speedling break...I deflected it twice, I just blew a huge fucking lead in the first game because let's face it - Castro is the better player.
This leads to the third game, he doesn't always ling all-in! I got hydra-broken =(
Arew we're still 1-1 (those games were on op ToT) though like more than a year ago lol). I want rematch(es)!
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On October 31 2008 19:43 LaLuSh wrote:
Taking a game off castro surmounts to surviving a speedling break.
Seriously though. The dude somehow pulled it off 3 times in a row until I learned that's all he ever does.
Even though it's true that he likes early lings, I wouldn't say it's the only thing he does (maybe while climbing ranks though). He's a pretty good macro player too.
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On October 31 2008 19:43 LaLuSh wrote:
Taking a game off castro surmounts to surviving a speedling break.
Seriously though. The dude somehow pulled it off 3 times in a row until I learned that's all he ever does.
i think you just described most zergs looking to climb ranks quickly
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@ Naib we played some in iccup, I won't comment anything more. I can'tsay I'm so mannered too, but that wasn't nice :p
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On November 01 2008 16:04 arew wrote:
@ Naib we played some in iccup, I won't comment anything more. I can'tsay I'm so mannered too, but that wasn't nice :p
Then you should definitely die for it, whatever it was!
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thezerg transfered to nobility (thx tt1)
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How do you download the reps from there?
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On November 02 2008 06:15 jimminy_kriket wrote:How do you download the reps from there?
You click on the small number next to the players name. The small 2 or w/e, it will load up the replay page for those games.
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"If you tell me I won't tell anyone but it's important"
Well it doesn't matter anyway but you are quite the idiot :[
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Nametaken is Cloud cuz Paranoid cr8ed this nick 4 him;)
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just confirms my beliefs of why cloud is so cute
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*Sziky, damnit
S-Z-I-K-Y
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jwj is F91(http://iccup.com/iccscprofile/271062/),and sghwfnh(http://iccup.com/iccscprofile/386103/) is Jaystar
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On November 10 2008 10:21 Xeris wrote:who is -BeCome- ??
Horror Terran?
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I don't know that's why I'm asking
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QQ]I.L.K.-
Is back this season for a few games n_n (it's me btw)
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On November 10 2008 11:02 arb wrote:Horror Terran?
He's not. I can definately say that much. I don't think he's German though.
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On November 10 2008 13:57 Xeris wrote:I don't know that's why I'm asking
Naruto says it isnt him
but i dont know many german terrans haha
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Pretty sure Xeris[LighT] has no aka. He's team leader of LighT and a wgtour admin too.
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Who is INeedGosuAlly. Really nice 2v2 player, and pretty good 1v1 as well. Here is a 1v1 rep.
Replay
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It's funny how all the garbage comes together, hungtran, cloak, lee, tazarro, all on iccup together
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On November 12 2008 07:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
It's funny how all the garbage comes together, hungtran, cloak, lee, tazarro, all on iccup together
Yeah. The 2v2 channel is pretty sad those days.
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On November 12 2008 07:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
It's funny how all the garbage comes together, hungtran, cloak, lee, tazarro, all on iccup together
Yeah i totally agree
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On November 12 2008 07:17 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
It's funny how all the garbage comes together, hungtran, cloak, lee, tazarro, all on iccup together
you forgott about "fleem-_-"
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On November 11 2008 23:14 Tarmak_mk wrote:
whos Xeris[LighT] ?
OctZerg, I just solved the mystery of who Xeris[LighT] is. I'll reveal his aka on ICCUP:
Xeris[LighT] TRUE AKA
enjoy~
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I'm AoN.ReY @iccup
add me to the TLnetters category
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Who is TerranIsland
Profile
Here are 2 replays of him from the most recent C rank tournament (he won)
replay 1
Replay 2
The game he played on byzantium , he uses a nice build (factory before academy, super fast dropship, and ferry m&m from high ground, to his low ground main.)
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terranisland is a shared account
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maybe-x17 transfer to parkjansoo
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you sure ? would be awesome if raven was playing again, used to be my favorite terran <3
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Yes, hes sure. Raven even released his reppack on netwars.pl .
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could you link the rep pack, im not really good with polish.
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On November 17 2008 07:19 RoC)Ninjah wrote:vanilla?
is vanilla the name of a player? i'm not too well versed in the foreigner scene, never heard of him. is this vanilla fellow strong enough to get 133-55 in season 5?
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No but im sure he can hack his way that high. Ill check if its him when I get home.
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btw, i know who jWj is :p
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On November 17 2008 18:46 Medix wrote:
btw, i know who jWj is :p
good job!!!!
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On November 14 2008 20:36 RoSe. wrote:
BadAssCutie / uT)RoSe
i remember playing you
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these koreans are out of control lol
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On November 17 2008 06:38 besiger wrote:you sure ? would be awesome if raven was playing again, used to be my favorite terran <3
Hells yeah! Raven had a really sexy tvz <3
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is SHINee.AMIGO the first player to reach Olympic rank on icc server ?? o_O
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WOw yaa, olympic rank :O who can reach that
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On November 17 2008 23:54 2rhyme wrote:
is SHINee.AMIGO the first player to reach Olympic rank on icc server ?? o_O
No.
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I'd be pretty depressed if a SHINee fan was first at anything
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On November 18 2008 04:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2008 23:54 2rhyme wrote:
is SHINee.AMIGO the first player to reach Olympic rank on icc server ?? o_O No.
the onlyone i saw was the abuser last season..
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On November 18 2008 04:56 FaCE_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 04:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On November 17 2008 23:54 2rhyme wrote:
is SHINee.AMIGO the first player to reach Olympic rank on icc server ?? o_O No. the onlyone i saw was the abuser last season..
Yea, who other than Psyche[Name} got olympic on icc?
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Who is Terran. Polish terran player with 43-5 record. Tarson? Sawyer?
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Replay
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On November 18 2008 04:45 fusionsdf wrote:
I'd be pretty depressed if a SHINee fan was first at anything
HAHAHAHA
On November 18 2008 11:25 eXigent. wrote:Who is Terran. Polish terran player with 43-5 record. Tarson? Sawyer? profileReplay
Unless tarson and sawyer changed their key sigs from tsl both their sigs dont match to the terran in the rep
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Medics to hotkey 1 wtf? never seen anything like that before
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Just compared the replay to a replay of Nal_ra vs Reach PvP.
Reaches apm in your game 273
Reaches apm vs nal_ra 329
Reaches hotkeys vs you.
1 and 2 for probe
0 for nexus
4 for gateway
2 for cybernetics core
5 for gateway
then he adds 6 for robobay.
Now here are the hotkeys used vs Nal_ra
1 ans 2 for probe
0 for nexus
4 for gateway
2 for cybernetics core
5 for gateway
then he adds 6 for robobay
Ok, so basically the hotkeys are exactly the same as reaches were in 2005 vs nal_ra as a comparison. Combine that with a current 50-0 record, and I dunno, maybe it adds up?
Personally, I find the dual probe hotkey, the 2 for cybercore and 6 for robo to be sort of unique, so if it was someone else, they are playing with reaches exact hotkey style.
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On November 18 2008 11:25 eXigent. wrote:Who is Terran. Polish terran player with 43-5 record. Tarson? Sawyer? profileReplay
I think I remember someone saying it was MYM.Raven
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On November 18 2008 12:05 arb wrote:
Medics to hotkey 1 wtf? never seen anything like that before
Daze used to hotkey his medics as one
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On November 18 2008 12:27 Pads wrote:I think I remember someone saying it was MYM.Raven
I looked at a few raven replays, and compared and I think you are correct. Raven hotkeys medics to 1 , command center to 4 and barracks to 5 and 6. Same as this replay. Thanks for giving me the name to search for!
Since its not on the list, Terran. = MYM.Raven
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I used to love watching raven play :D
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I dont think Reach12 is the real Reach.
I think Reach uses 3 as shuttles not 2
Plus Reach12's spamming pattern in the beginning seems off compared to Reach's.
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50-0 is pretty sick so if its not him I wonder who it is
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well lets see how he does vs A- A A+ gamers, 50-0 is possible even for a foreigner..
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I was looking at the more recent reach reps and only the pvp ones
http://www.ygosu.com/?m=replay&order=wtime2&s_race1=&s_race2=&s_cate=best&list_type=one&theme=&add_search_log=Y&searcht=player&search=reach
The shuttle part is invalid but than what about the early game spamming?
In Reach vs Draco he does 1,2 probe but he doesnt spam with it early game like reach12 does.
Also i think the link died for the reach12 one From what i remember of the reach12 one the guy goes 1,2 from the start of the game while reach doesnt until he scouts.
Ask romad
Check for me
Reach early game uses 0 as nexus stops pressing 0 after he hotkeys a probe 1 and 2 then starts using 0 again. So in his 2 reps vs draco you will see a gap between the zeros.
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It looks real to me.
The game vs xellos from 2007 on gg.net is almost identical. Shuttle on 2, robo on 6 then changing it to a gateway. And an APM difference of only 1 apm.
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ill stop than
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I dont know why he is using his real ID and hosting pub games haha. Seems strange to me o_o
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Thats why i have doubts that its the real Reach
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im kinda new to playing starcraft thingy im mainly a spectater or at least joined the community by spectating vods from msl/osl. But started to play 2 weeks ago on iccup my acc is foldy i suck offcourse but if you want to play a noob or you're a noob yourselv and want to practice with opponent that doesnt desmantle no matter what happens then msg my rank is smthng like [D] with 1100 points and somehow i managed to get a D+ on 2x2 im enjoying 2x2 more for some reason nowadays
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ha Reach12 just had a public game 1 minute ago, "b medusa". Anyone wanna try get a game?
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I am sry that I am randomly posting here, when I try to register on iccup. I use every acc name I can think it still say "it is chosen"
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You have to register on the website.
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I did went on...
EDIT: I got it, it worked ...finally
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On November 18 2008 13:40 Ilikestarcraft wrote:ill stop than
On November 18 2008 13:44 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Thats why i have doubts that its the real Reach
:D ah the irony
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On November 18 2008 13:10 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
well lets see how he does vs A- A A+ gamers, 50-0 is possible even for a foreigner..
Did you see his match list? 50-0 isn't possible for any foreigner playing 90% Koreans. Most foreigners with good records dodged Koreans. There are some foreigners with really good records even on high ranks and they didn't dodge which is impressive, but 50-0.. not really.
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Braavos36374 Posts
mystery toss reach suspect is now 63-3 B+
basic training over for ace?
most of his games are on medusa, if Reach gets sent out on medusa in proleague next season we can be sure it's him
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On November 18 2008 04:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2008 23:54 2rhyme wrote:
is SHINee.AMIGO the first player to reach Olympic rank on icc server ?? o_O No.
yes, the first one without abusing or testing
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on the topic of medic hotkeying
wats the difference between hotkeying to 1 and any other number? is it significantly better/worse?
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On November 18 2008 16:25 ZpuX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 13:44 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Thats why i have doubts that its the real Reach :D ah the irony
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http://www.iccup.com/iccdetails/1329125/
Look at the stats on this game of Reach12's, they make no sense whatsoever
Zerg wins, 40k score to 13k score. Zerg produces only barely more units, kills a few more buildings, and mines significantly less than P. How can P score be 25k less for just 17 units lost, with 1000's of minerals and gas less mined? Maybe ling break on a P FE but still the score discrepancy is huge for that
And if it is Reach, then "ComeOn" 2-0'd him realllllly decisively.
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On November 18 2008 17:06 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 13:10 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
well lets see how he does vs A- A A+ gamers, 50-0 is possible even for a foreigner.. Did you see his match list? 50-0 isn't possible for any foreigner playing 90% Koreans. Most foreigners with good records dodged Koreans. There are some foreigners with really good records even on high ranks and they didn't dodge which is impressive, but 50-0.. not really.
yes its possible, ofcourse it is. at B- B lvl u can still beat most players if u are A-rank yourself and playing it safe. doding a few 100%win koreans can be useful though..
getting from 50-0 to 60 or 70-0 thats when it gets tough, and now he's starting to lose games. 13-3 after his 50-0 at B B+ lvl
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hes 3 losses are 1 from a B+ korean in a 4 min pvz and another 2 vs a A- 62-2 stats player..(that can be a pro too)
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On November 19 2008 03:31 2rhyme wrote:
hes 3 losses are 1 from a B+ korean in a 4 min pvz and another 2 vs a A- 62-2 stats player..(that can be a pro too)
Exactly.
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On November 18 2008 18:32 dongfeng wrote:
on the topic of medic hotkeying
wats the difference between hotkeying to 1 and any other number? is it significantly better/worse?
generally the lower the number is the easier it is to hotkey and rehotkey that group
but 1s kind of an exception to that since its awkward for many people
If it were me, I would assign medics to whichever unit key is hardest to hotkey rapidly, since its more important to be grouping your marines
but I dont play with that style anyways. You can always look at replays and see what other players do
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On November 19 2008 03:51 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2008 03:31 2rhyme wrote:
hes 3 losses are 1 from a B+ korean in a 4 min pvz and another 2 vs a A- 62-2 stats player..(that can be a pro too) Exactly.
yes, however that was never the issue.
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what is the issue then? he lost to a 4pool and 2 vs another player with an absolutely amazing record.
sorry, but no foreigner is pulling this off.
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IMO reach12 is the real Reach
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The IMO is extraneous >.>.
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On November 19 2008 07:16 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
IMO reach12 is the real Reach
Thanks for agreeing. I just think that there is too much in common with reach for it not to be him.
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Haha reach uses his real id?
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-200 +200 nice :D vs B+ on non motw
and +260 vs B- on motw
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On November 19 2008 16:24 Camlito wrote:
Haha reach uses his real id?
Of course, this isnt some 2nd rate pussy THIS IS THE MANTOSS!
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Netherlands13554 Posts
lol sick
he asked me for a game a few times but I was afk when he was C+ haha.
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On November 19 2008 06:42 fusionsdf wrote:
what is the issue then? he lost to a 4pool and 2 vs another player with an absolutely amazing record.
sorry, but no foreigner is pulling this off.
the issue was weather a foreigner could go 50-0 or not. its not impossible unless u face a very good korean player.
its actually quite easy to go 30-0 if u're playing safe.
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50-0 against pretty much all koreans with every game against your rank or better?
I mean there arent a whole bunch of foreigners capable of that.
I mean mondi could pull a 50-0 I think. But I dont think he could do it all against koreans
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no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple)
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On November 20 2008 02:50 IdrA wrote:
no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple)
yes, as i said. if they're lucky enough not to play any very skilled korean gamers it is possible to go 50-0.
for example 40-0 gets you to B- 10 more wins u'll end up somewhere at B, so its possible.
Doding no one and only playing koreans though would seem almost impossible.
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Judging purely from the name, hungtran
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On November 20 2008 02:58 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2008 02:50 IdrA wrote:
no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple) yes, as i said. if they're lucky enough not to play any very skilled korean gamers it is possible to go 50-0. for example 40-0 gets you to B- 10 more wins u'll end up somewhere at B, so its possible. Doding no one and only playing koreans though would seem almost impossible.
almost impossible?
name one foreigner who could 50-0 vs koreans on korean times
I mean this is a reach we are talking about, and theyre arent any foreigners as good as he is, even if hes not in the best shape right now
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On November 20 2008 05:12 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2008 02:58 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 20 2008 02:50 IdrA wrote:
no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple) yes, as i said. if they're lucky enough not to play any very skilled korean gamers it is possible to go 50-0. for example 40-0 gets you to B- 10 more wins u'll end up somewhere at B, so its possible. Doding no one and only playing koreans though would seem almost impossible. almost impossible? name one foreigner who could 50-0 vs koreans on korean times I mean this is a reach we are talking about, and theyre arent any foreigners as good as he is, even if hes not in the best shape right now
No, i never stated that anyone was. I also never said they would go 50-0 vs pure koreans, i don't know where u get this from.
I simply said that its possible for a foreigner to go 50-0 on iccup if he dodges a few very skilled korean players.
And my point was, before we knew he was reach, lets wait and see how well he does vs A- A A+ gamers. Coz certainly, if any foreigner or amateur korean gets lucky and get 50-0 it will really fall apart at A rank level.
Edit: Also when he had 50-0, from B- he played 60% foreigners. So.. vs skilled players he didnt go vs 90% koreans at the time. Now lets drop this discussion please, since we've determined that it really is reach.
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On November 20 2008 05:12 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2008 02:58 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 20 2008 02:50 IdrA wrote:
no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple) yes, as i said. if they're lucky enough not to play any very skilled korean gamers it is possible to go 50-0. for example 40-0 gets you to B- 10 more wins u'll end up somewhere at B, so its possible. Doding no one and only playing koreans though would seem almost impossible. almost impossible? name one foreigner who could 50-0 vs koreans on korean times I mean this is a reach we are talking about, and theyre arent any foreigners as good as he is, even if hes not in the best shape right now
Well not to get into the argument but id think Nony might be able to
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On November 20 2008 05:43 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2008 05:12 fusionsdf wrote:On November 20 2008 02:58 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 20 2008 02:50 IdrA wrote:
no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple) yes, as i said. if they're lucky enough not to play any very skilled korean gamers it is possible to go 50-0. for example 40-0 gets you to B- 10 more wins u'll end up somewhere at B, so its possible. Doding no one and only playing koreans though would seem almost impossible. almost impossible? name one foreigner who could 50-0 vs koreans on korean times I mean this is a reach we are talking about, and theyre arent any foreigners as good as he is, even if hes not in the best shape right now Well not to get into the argument but id think Nony might be able to
He isn't the only one. I've had a few friends who top out around B/B+ go 46/1 or 47/0 before losing. I'm sure there are 3-4 outside of korea who could do such.
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On November 20 2008 05:43 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2008 05:12 fusionsdf wrote:On November 20 2008 02:58 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 20 2008 02:50 IdrA wrote:
no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple) yes, as i said. if they're lucky enough not to play any very skilled korean gamers it is possible to go 50-0. for example 40-0 gets you to B- 10 more wins u'll end up somewhere at B, so its possible. Doding no one and only playing koreans though would seem almost impossible. almost impossible? name one foreigner who could 50-0 vs koreans on korean times I mean this is a reach we are talking about, and theyre arent any foreigners as good as he is, even if hes not in the best shape right now Well not to get into the argument but id think Nony might be able to
not dodging was one of the stipulations
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On November 20 2008 16:38 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2008 05:43 arb wrote:On November 20 2008 05:12 fusionsdf wrote:On November 20 2008 02:58 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 20 2008 02:50 IdrA wrote:
no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple) yes, as i said. if they're lucky enough not to play any very skilled korean gamers it is possible to go 50-0. for example 40-0 gets you to B- 10 more wins u'll end up somewhere at B, so its possible. Doding no one and only playing koreans though would seem almost impossible. almost impossible? name one foreigner who could 50-0 vs koreans on korean times I mean this is a reach we are talking about, and theyre arent any foreigners as good as he is, even if hes not in the best shape right now Well not to get into the argument but id think Nony might be able to not dodging was one of the stipulations
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nony dodges like crazy
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haha. i've never dodged in the traditional sense. like seeing a person with a good record in the channel and saying no when he asks for game just because of his record. but what i do is much worse anyway. playing during non-korean hours is pretty much the biggest dodge possible. none of my accounts have ever had even half of their games against koreans. but pretty much no foreigners practice against koreans on iccup. i think maybe white-ra is the only one
in a nutshell: hypothetical musings are going to stay hypothetical. nobody is going to bother to flip their sleep schedule just to bash korean newbs, while hoping to be on a luck streak, in order to achieve 50-0 or whatever
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On November 20 2008 05:25 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2008 05:12 fusionsdf wrote:On November 20 2008 02:58 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 20 2008 02:50 IdrA wrote:
no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple) yes, as i said. if they're lucky enough not to play any very skilled korean gamers it is possible to go 50-0. for example 40-0 gets you to B- 10 more wins u'll end up somewhere at B, so its possible. Doding no one and only playing koreans though would seem almost impossible. almost impossible? name one foreigner who could 50-0 vs koreans on korean times I mean this is a reach we are talking about, and theyre arent any foreigners as good as he is, even if hes not in the best shape right now No, i never stated that anyone was. I also never said they would go 50-0 vs pure koreans, i don't know where u get this from. I simply said that its possible for a foreigner to go 50-0 on iccup if he dodges a few very skilled korean players. And my point was, before we knew he was reach, lets wait and see how well he does vs A- A A+ gamers. Coz certainly, if any foreigner or amateur korean gets lucky and get 50-0 it will really fall apart at A rank level. Edit: Also when he had 50-0, from B- he played 60% foreigners. So.. vs skilled players he didnt go vs 90% koreans at the time. Now lets drop this discussion please, since we've determined that it really is reach.
sure if by 60% foreigners, you mean 60% koreans, most of the remaining no country listed and obviously korean, and one or 2 foreigners
gj with that
for the record before B-:
Korean: 23 (54%)
No Country: 13 (30%)
Foreigner: 7 (16%)
After B-:
Korean: 20 (55%)
No Country: 8 (22%)
Foreigner: 8 (22%)
Like I dont mean to berate you about this, but you made claims that a foreigner could do what reach12 did, and everyone else is saying no.
Could a foreigner dodge everyone and play during non-korean hours and possibly get 50-0? a few could, but there is no reason to relate that to reach12, or just make up numbers to make a point
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On November 21 2008 05:07 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2008 05:25 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 20 2008 05:12 fusionsdf wrote:On November 20 2008 02:58 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 20 2008 02:50 IdrA wrote:
no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple) yes, as i said. if they're lucky enough not to play any very skilled korean gamers it is possible to go 50-0. for example 40-0 gets you to B- 10 more wins u'll end up somewhere at B, so its possible. Doding no one and only playing koreans though would seem almost impossible. almost impossible? name one foreigner who could 50-0 vs koreans on korean times I mean this is a reach we are talking about, and theyre arent any foreigners as good as he is, even if hes not in the best shape right now No, i never stated that anyone was. I also never said they would go 50-0 vs pure koreans, i don't know where u get this from. I simply said that its possible for a foreigner to go 50-0 on iccup if he dodges a few very skilled korean players. And my point was, before we knew he was reach, lets wait and see how well he does vs A- A A+ gamers. Coz certainly, if any foreigner or amateur korean gets lucky and get 50-0 it will really fall apart at A rank level. Edit: Also when he had 50-0, from B- he played 60% foreigners. So.. vs skilled players he didnt go vs 90% koreans at the time. Now lets drop this discussion please, since we've determined that it really is reach. sure if by 60% foreigners, you mean 60% koreans, most of the remaining no country listed and obviously korean, and one or 2 foreigners gj with that for the record before B-: Korean: 23 (54%) No Country: 13 (30%) Foreigner: 7 (16%) After B-: Korean: 20 (55%) No Country: 8 (22%) Foreigner: 8 (22%) Like I dont mean to berate you about this, but you made claims that a foreigner could do what reach12 did, and everyone else is saying no. Could a foreigner dodge everyone and play during non-korean hours and possibly get 50-0? a few could, but there is no reason to relate that to reach12, or just make up numbers to make a point
Seriously if you're going to counter what i said atleast read what i said.
Also if i say 60% foreigner, i dont mean 60% koreans obviously.
I said that when he was 50-0, at that time i made my statement, his games vs higher than C+ gamers was 60% foreigners.
2 none country
2 koreans
2 chinese
2 americans
2 russians
And yes, i made claims that a foreigner could go 50-0 on iccup, its also fully doable.. im not an A+ gamer and im 29-0 so far on my acc.. so if i can do it to 30-0 i bet someone could go 50-0...
anyway this thing is totaly hypothetical and please if you wanna carry on with this discussion atleast bring up things i said and not things you made up just to make you look cool ok. Maybe im overreacting but i got alittle frustrated by this..
Just to make it clear, I never said that any foreigner is likely to go 50-0 on iccup at koreans hours and doding no one.
I also never said that any foreigner is as good as reach.
Good night.
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if u select ur opponents 50-0 can be possible but if u play any who ask u im sure that no1 non-korean can get 50-0!
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On November 21 2008 07:13 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2008 05:07 fusionsdf wrote:On November 20 2008 05:25 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 20 2008 05:12 fusionsdf wrote:On November 20 2008 02:58 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On November 20 2008 02:50 IdrA wrote:
no foreigner could go 50-0 playing at korean times dodging no one.
most progamers cant even do that. (unless this season is easier than the last couple) yes, as i said. if they're lucky enough not to play any very skilled korean gamers it is possible to go 50-0. for example 40-0 gets you to B- 10 more wins u'll end up somewhere at B, so its possible. Doding no one and only playing koreans though would seem almost impossible. almost impossible? name one foreigner who could 50-0 vs koreans on korean times I mean this is a reach we are talking about, and theyre arent any foreigners as good as he is, even if hes not in the best shape right now No, i never stated that anyone was. I also never said they would go 50-0 vs pure koreans, i don't know where u get this from. I simply said that its possible for a foreigner to go 50-0 on iccup if he dodges a few very skilled korean players. And my point was, before we knew he was reach, lets wait and see how well he does vs A- A A+ gamers. Coz certainly, if any foreigner or amateur korean gets lucky and get 50-0 it will really fall apart at A rank level. Edit: Also when he had 50-0, from B- he played 60% foreigners. So.. vs skilled players he didnt go vs 90% koreans at the time. Now lets drop this discussion please, since we've determined that it really is reach. sure if by 60% foreigners, you mean 60% koreans, most of the remaining no country listed and obviously korean, and one or 2 foreigners gj with that for the record before B-: Korean: 23 (54%) No Country: 13 (30%) Foreigner: 7 (16%) After B-: Korean: 20 (55%) No Country: 8 (22%) Foreigner: 8 (22%) Like I dont mean to berate you about this, but you made claims that a foreigner could do what reach12 did, and everyone else is saying no. Could a foreigner dodge everyone and play during non-korean hours and possibly get 50-0? a few could, but there is no reason to relate that to reach12, or just make up numbers to make a point Seriously if you're going to counter what i said atleast read what i said. Also if i say 60% foreigner, i dont mean 60% koreans obviously. I said that when he was 50-0, at that time i made my statement, his games vs higher than C+ gamers was 60% foreigners. 2 none country 2 koreans 2 chinese 2 americans 2 russians And yes, i made claims that a foreigner could go 50-0 on iccup, its also fully doable.. im not an A+ gamer and im 29-0 so far on my acc.. so if i can do it to 30-0 i bet someone could go 50-0... anyway this thing is totaly hypothetical and please if you wanna carry on with this discussion atleast bring up things i said and not things you made up just to make you look cool ok. Maybe im overreacting but i got alittle frustrated by this.. Just to make it clear, I never said that any foreigner is likely to go 50-0 on iccup at koreans hours and doding no one. I also never said that any foreigner is as good as reach. Good night.
So, you are ICMK
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good detective work
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fusionsdf made me blow my cover!! bastard:O
im also "Growing" which proves that from B- to B its very well possible to go with 10-0 even though i did 10-1 or something.. though only russians and americans :/
i did not dodge anywone with ICMK.
I guess you can set Growing = Anotherday now jeez
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United States42250 Posts
I don't get what the big thing is about Korean times at low ranks. A D rank Korean is still D. It's not like all Koreans are progamers.
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On November 21 2008 22:02 Kwark wrote:
I don't get what the big thing is about Korean times at low ranks. A D rank Korean is still D. It's not like all Koreans are progamers.
yeah thats why i oonly mentioned reach12's wins from B- ++ as something to concider extraordinary
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He's also on MYM So id say this = 100% Arew
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Wait, so why is Dino on the list of abusers on front page? As far as I remember, he never abused ladder, and I know he didn't abuse on that account o_o;
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dhcndgns #1 olympic rank. if i type his name in korean, it comes out as 오충훈 aka Shudder_V_ on SKTelecomT1.
so i'm guessing it must be him.
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Who's demonologist? A- guy who hangs out in op irc?
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Missisauce = BW-Tidy / tidy.onfire
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On November 25 2008 10:15 TopGear wrote:
Who's demonologist? A- guy who hangs out in op irc?
lastshadow i think
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On November 25 2008 18:16 Xeris wrote:http://sc.iccup.com/iccteams/5464/thoughts about this? a) really cool b) WAY too much free time c) something else, I dunno... I go with a mix of a and b ... ab, let's say.
HAHA, i actually laughed out loud lol.
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jWj is [SvS]F91
Phoenix66 = Phoenix66
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On November 25 2008 10:21 Skyze wrote:
Missisauce = BW-Tidy / tidy.onfire
why the fuck does everyone say yakuja hacks he doesn't(not pointing at you skyze)
just saw the "Hackuja" at the beginning of this thread. Note* I'm not defending him because his my friend ext.. i just know he doesn't hack.
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On November 24 2008 09:21 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Because we dont forget.
Don't forget what? That he used to hack? Yeah, thats cool to put him on a hacker list, but he's not an abuser, so I don't see why hes on the abuser list. That's all I wanted to ask = /
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yea jwj was asking how to transfer stats onto a different account yesterday haha
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On November 25 2008 21:14 uT)Drebin wrote:why the fuck does everyone say yakuja hacks he doesn't(not pointing at you skyze) just saw the "Hackuja" at the beginning of this thread. Note* I'm not defending him because his my friend ext.. i just know he doesn't hack.
he doesnt now but he did, these facts are undisuputed there is no point in trying to start an arguement about it, its like saying dino never hacked ... its just stupid
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On November 26 2008 00:40 arb wrote:isnt that a savior aka?
It is but replay need ^^
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i don't think it's him
he lost a ~16 min zvt vs a C lvl 50% win player..savior can only "achieve" this if he's super drunk or starts with no drones :D
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maybe he was super drunk AND started with 1 drone? just for shits and giggles?
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On November 25 2008 20:37 Medix wrote:
jWj is [SvS]F91
Phoenix66 = Phoenix66
For sure, he joined op irc for a second under his transferred account. It was something like f.fanatic)F91 or something.
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I played mystisism, below 200 apm, not a noteable player.
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On November 26 2008 00:55 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2008 21:14 uT)Drebin wrote:On November 25 2008 10:21 Skyze wrote:
Missisauce = BW-Tidy / tidy.onfire why the fuck does everyone say yakuja hacks he doesn't(not pointing at you skyze) just saw the "Hackuja" at the beginning of this thread. Note* I'm not defending him because his my friend ext.. i just know he doesn't hack. he doesnt now but he did, these facts are undisuputed there is no point in trying to start an arguement about it, its like saying dino never hacked ... its just stupid
Where are these undisputed facts? Because I seem to remember a bunch of people who got branded as hackers even though they only used advloader, including yakuja.
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On November 26 2008 06:52 ishob wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2008 00:55 Murk wrote:On November 25 2008 21:14 uT)Drebin wrote:On November 25 2008 10:21 Skyze wrote:
Missisauce = BW-Tidy / tidy.onfire why the fuck does everyone say yakuja hacks he doesn't(not pointing at you skyze) just saw the "Hackuja" at the beginning of this thread. Note* I'm not defending him because his my friend ext.. i just know he doesn't hack. he doesnt now but he did, these facts are undisuputed there is no point in trying to start an arguement about it, its like saying dino never hacked ... its just stupid Where are these undisputed facts? Because I seem to remember a bunch of people who got branded as hackers even though they only used advloader, including yakuja.
He won't be able to provide any undisputed facts because there are none
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nice job beating him he is really good zerg.
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I'll say it again, parkjansoo is by.cozy if maybe-x17 was by.cozy, hasn't been changed
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uhm, iccup rank nr 1 is playing badly atm, on a losing streak rofl.. maybe another player from skt1?
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yes, most top chinese players are currently in team fnatic now.
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fnatic is a wow based clan since before, are they going for bw anyone know?
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On November 28 2008 01:20 Medix wrote:
yes, most top chinese players are currently in team fnatic now.
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Germany1908 Posts
Lets see how fnatic does... those Chinese teams did never really have that "longevity" on their side.
And let's not forget how much lag issues always tend to happen when a Chinese team plays a non Chinese team... ;;
Who know's maybe fnatic will buy those guys some decent cons lolol
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last day of season 6...
impressions? ..i for one found this season the toughest
looking forward to next season
gg all
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United States42250 Posts
Yeah. He 2-0ed Reach at B.
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well seasons almost over, I got some good practice in and the games really helped me improve. Looking forward to mass gaming for real next season.
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i think it's better for a season 7 who's who
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