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On October 12 2008 09:24 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
it's like the idiots who insist mistrzzz sucks even though he's obviously at the least pretty good, simply because mistrzz is a total dumbass idiot
Don't be harsh with Deadvessel :<
I don't really care about Draco / White Ra being sloppy because even when they are inactive they are better than half ot the players you named.
You have also avoided some of my comments and answers regarding G5/ Fenix/ Misterzzz and Pomi / localhost / Russian terrans.
About Idra: Obviously he is a good player, i just wanted to say that even if he is good, he still isn't the best foreigner atm ( he needs to prove it, i don't care if he beats Yellow ). He is hated by many but there are also a lot of fanboys who overate him.
I would rank JF / Nony / Draco higher than him and even maybe White Ra ( just for protoss ).
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i think its funny that g5 owned idra at wcg fairly convincingly(idra played HORRIBLE tvp against g5 and nony, like seriously it was painful to watch), and g5 got owned in spirit repeatedly.
Makes you wonder how idra would have done in spirit ya?
I dont know what tourney he won to go to korea (it was played before I started paying attention to anything sc related again), but it must not have got much publicity.
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On October 12 2008 10:49 dream-_- wrote:
i think its funny that g5 owned idra at wcg fairly convincingly(idra played HORRIBLE tvp against g5 and nony, like seriously it was painful to watch), and g5 got owned in spirit repeatedly.
Makes you wonder how idra would have done in spirit ya?
I dont know what tourney he won to go to korea (it was played before I started paying attention to anything sc related again), but it must not have got much publicity.
You should probably think about the pressure that Idra has (as the only foreigner in korea). A LAN in which you are expected to win is much, much, much more pressure than an online ladder =p.
Idra beat all the americans and canadians and only lost once to a hacker (dino) to go to korea.
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who is 'all the americans and canadians'? can someone give me a link to this tourney plz.
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On October 12 2008 09:32 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2008 09:24 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
it's like the idiots who insist mistrzzz sucks even though he's obviously at the least pretty good, simply because mistrzz is a total dumbass idiot Don't be harsh with Deadvessel :< I don't really care about Draco / White Ra being sloppy because even when they are inactive they are better than half ot the players you named. You have also avoided some of my comments and answers regarding G5/ Fenix/ Misterzzz and Pomi / localhost / Russian terrans. About Idra: Obviously he is a good player, i just wanted to say that even if he is good, he still isn't the best foreigner atm ( he needs to prove it, i don't care if he beats Yellow ). He is hated by many but there are also a lot of fanboys who overate him. I would rank JF / Nony / Draco higher than him and even maybe White Ra ( just for protoss ).
Fenix is a 2nd class player compared to the others, people talked his win up vs idra to be way more than it was, he did a relatively all in build and got lucky because idra's tanks were slightly out of position. Of course Mistrzzz is decent but overall he's nothing special. He does nothing special lately. iirc there isn't a lot of definate evidence concerning G5 and he's proven already that he can hold his own in offline play. I mean his games with the usa vs euro event and wcg usa were amazing.
The difference between Idra and Mistrzzz is that Idra actually shows rays of hope and brilliant play at times (watch his win in GOM, that was phenomenal TvZ).
Everyone knows that Idra is abrasive but the blind hatred and blowing everything out of proportion is just as bad as the polish fanboys, etc.
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It's funny cause if Idra said this in a blog, but about someone else, and then someone wrote a reply like yours, Deadvessel, they would say LOL GOTCHA TROLLED EZILY
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DeadVessel , does Idra pay u for those comments ? mistrzzzzzzzzzzzz (the retarted polish guy, dont remember how to type his nick), is way better then g5/idra :O.... Proof, I saw phenomenal Mitrzzzzzz replay at gg.net.
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No? I support him because he's the only foreigner in Korea.
Your proof of Mistrzzz skill is 1 replay from GG.net? LOL
kroko did you even watch any of G5's replays from WCG USA or are you just talking out of your ass?
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MIStrZZZ is seriously one of the best foreign players. Not the best but top 10 almost for sure and a strong contender for top 5.
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On October 12 2008 17:09 jimminy_kriket wrote:
MIStrZZZ is seriously one of the best foreign players. Not the best but top 10 almost for sure and a strong contender for top 5.
no he isn't. Mistrzzz has lost about 4 clanwar matches vs light players , and none of our players are in the top 5 of foreign players.
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What's your point Xeris? Everyone loses sometimes. That's deadvessel whole point about idra blahblahblah doesn't always reflect pressures/don't care about the game etc etc blahblah
If there was money/real prizes on the line I'd bet Mistrzzz would own Light's players pretty hard
And I really dislike mistrzzz as a person so I'm certainly no fan of his
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i agree, you dont win nothing in clan wars, so who cares if u lose them. Now put some money on the line and lets see lol
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this game its balanced and u cant be top1 for long period. with hard training all can beat all so constantly players like mondragon / draco are best because even without training they can beat most players and play solid. others need to train hard and play most time to be in shape and play good.
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Mistrzzz is easily one of the top notch foreigners. Claiming otherwise is stupid.
He's not the most serious or well mannered guy, which is why so many hate him (I don't like him that much either). But still, he's got some skill, and his only real flaw is pvp I guess.
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On October 13 2008 01:45 meRz wrote:
Mistrzzz is easily one of the top notch foreigners. Claiming otherwise is stupid.
He's not the most serious or well mannered guy, which is why so many hate him (I don't like him that much either). But still, he's got some skill, and his only real flaw is pvp I guess.
True, and he has also beat draco offline in the past as well.
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Idra is good, hes just inconsistent. Im sure with time he will become more and more consistent and become a more dominant powerhouse
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Wtf this is "WHO IS WHO ICCUP SEASON 6". Not "FLAME IDRA FLAME IDRA FLAME IDRA SEASON 6". Damn I forgot what this thread was about for a minute because of all the flaming and I'm not learning any new akas..
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From what I have seen his tvz is great, but his tvt aint so hot and is tvp is just terrible. I am yet to see idra win a tvp, from any replay anywhere.
HOWEVER, is he as good as a B team korean? I would say yes. Does that mean he deserves his spot? Yes.
Will he get better? Most likely, but like it does with other B team koreans it could easily take 6 months to a year before he is on the same skill level as the A team players.
We have never seen a foreigner stay dedicated that long with the exception of assem and leg(wont get into why they didnt do as good, but no one in hexatron was doing anything at that point sooo). And of course elky/grr but thats before it was as difficult to be pro.
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