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genwar
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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/SonuvBob/banners/survivor14th_pachi.jpg) MBCgame Survivor Tournament 2008 Group 8 August 17 @ 18:30  NaDa < Athena >  Studyfantasy < Athena >  SangHoWinners Game < Byzantium > Losers Game < Byzantium > Final Game < Blue Storm > early but whatever. watchable on daum/korean gom. Results + Show Spoiler +[/b][/b] | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
but most importantly PROTOSS LOSES... make it happen guys. | ||
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Shauni
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Mhugues
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FakeSteve[TPR]
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WSFA.Nanashi
New Zealand8 Posts
On August 17 2008 17:51 Mhugues wrote: no he cant. Gogo NADA/ Study ... we need more zerg So then why'd you say gogo NaDa?  | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
Because Nada is a God, and two players advance. He doesn't want Sangho because Sangho is a tool. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
but I've never seen study play .... NADA GOGO Study GOGO | ||
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Ohforf
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Ancestral
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roMAD
Russia2355 Posts
On August 17 2008 18:12 Ancestral wrote: Fantasy posts here? Yeah, lol, really? | ||
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HanN00b
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mizoguchi
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
Idra showed him the website during the IEG (I think its called that) in china. So he started comming here. I could be wrong, but I believe idra said that. | ||
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AttackZerg
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Blind
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dragoonkf
Singapore1256 Posts
Study, blue, 6 o clock | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On August 17 2008 18:31 HanN00b wrote: stream? Daum player / GomTV. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
1 rax FE for nada | ||
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dragoonkf
Singapore1256 Posts
Nada goes 1rax --> CC Nada sends his 1 marine to the zerg base. Study gets lair at his nat without drones, seems like a aggressive low eco game ! Woah, 1 scv&marine snipes 1 drone b4 they go down | ||
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AttackZerg
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IntoTheWow
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AttackZerg
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IntoTheWow
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dragoonkf
Singapore1256 Posts
Study tries to break ramp but it is guarded by 1 scv with 5 marines. Nada moves out with 7-8 marines to secure nat, allowing CC to land and get nat working. OOHHHH Study expands to 12 oclock, opposite to his main 6 oclock Nada moves out while Study sets 2 sunkens at his natural. OMGGGGG SUNKEN BREAKK with only 1 sunken out. Drones go out to defend, lings/hydra dead.... FIREBATTT !!!! | ||
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AttackZerg
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dragoonkf
Singapore1256 Posts
OMG 2 LURKERS DIEEEEEE, GG! | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
study played awful | ||
GTR
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Chanted
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AttackZerg
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mizoguchi
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AttackZerg
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I fucking love this comerical. I look forward too it lol. | ||
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IntoTheWow
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AttackZerg
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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mizoguchi
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dragoonkf
Singapore1256 Posts
Sangho, blue, 2oclock | ||
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dragoonkf
Singapore1256 Posts
Standard opening from both for the time being. | ||
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AttackZerg
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AttackZerg
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Chanted
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ThePhan2m
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Ancestral
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amoxicilline
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genwar
Canada537 Posts
On August 17 2008 19:25 amoxicilline wrote: that map is just crazy for tvp , I don't think of one thing sangho could have done not lose his reaver really really badly? | ||
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AttackZerg
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amoxicilline
France1124 Posts
do you really think it would have changed anything? fantasy was 3bases vs 3 bases , had a totally unbeatable push with those cliffs , and sangho was nowhere near having carriers or arbiters | ||
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AttackZerg
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dragoonkf
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
On August 17 2008 19:33 dragoonkf wrote: Any 1 interested in taking over LR ? I gotta go do my work :D. if my stream doesnt crash, i can try but I wont be fast to report it, I wanna watch | ||
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AttackZerg
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
fantasy is red (bottom right) | ||
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Rucky
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QuietIdiot
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Sangho's pvz is a tad better than his pvt, and study looks like he's suffering from the newcomer syndrome, I expect some fast pool attempt and ultimate failure. Unless sangho has learned from his last bit vs nada where he spent 8 fucking cannons by his nexus against M+M like it was some hydra zvp all-in, he should last a good 10-15 minutes until hes overrun due to his poor game sense. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
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Shauni
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On August 17 2008 19:32 AttackZerg wrote: So if toss doesn't try dt/reaver and goes straight macro, terran push wins anyway ...?... will somebody tell me? Lol. It's not that simple. | ||
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Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
 But I hope not !Nada make it plz! | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
well.. DO them.. I just do it because no one was doing it.. Go ahead.. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Rucky
United States717 Posts
On August 17 2008 19:32 AttackZerg wrote: So if toss doesn't try dt/reaver and goes straight macro, terran push wins anyway ...?... will somebody tell me? I'll tell you. No terran push does not win anyway. :D | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 17 2008 19:58 FaCE_1 wrote: well.. DO them.. I just do it because no one was doing it.. Go ahead.. No thanks, I LR when my favorite players are playing. I was just giving you a few pointers that might make it more helpfull. Don't get butt hurt dude, I said you were doing a good job. And it is nice that you are doing it for sure. | ||
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QuietIdiot
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Athena has buildable, semi-high cliffs, and closed centers. If the terran gets a hold of that middle ground, a hard counter involving the classic speedlot/shuttle break with goon supplements is really hard to pull off because the splash damage from spider mines/tanks are far greater. Sangho tried to answer that situation by going around the map and tried to buy some time by moving fantasy back and forth from his main, but his economic was left undamaged so it was just a rolling ball of non-stop metal, losing that reaver was quite painful. Sangho has took his 3rd rather quickly from his 1 gate initial build and fantasy was able to manage to get to scout his main twice with the rax and scv allowing him to create an easy defense. I personally think if sangho got his 3rd later and invested on maintaining a strong center army would have prevented the push, perhaps even the addition of a shuttle with dt or even reaver to deter it, but I think he wasn't very confident in the idea of facing him in an even base war, so he took the risk of trying to get a significant eco advantage early on. A toss always wants to keep the terran in the blind early game because P has many early game advantages that way, sangho failed to do so and played a completely predictable game. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 17 2008 20:03 Rucky wrote: I'll tell you. No terran push does not win anyway. :D Toss macro is so easy, why don't they macro instead of wasting on do or die techs that work maybe 50% of the time, at best. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
[QUOTE]On August 17 2008 19:57 Shauni wrote: [QUOTE]On August 17 2008 19:32 AttackZerg wrote: [/QUOTE] thank you | ||
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mizoguchi
United States50 Posts
study at 5, ovie going in right direction | ||
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mizoguchi
United States50 Posts
nexus up, six lings out | ||
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mizoguchi
United States50 Posts
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QuietIdiot
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On August 17 2008 20:07 AttackZerg wrote: Toss macro is so easy, why don't they macro instead of wasting on do or die techs that work maybe 50% of the time, at best. The concept of pumping units may be easier, but protoss is not as flexible as the other races. The wrong combos at a certain timing means death, worse than a zerg, and the "so-called do or die techs" are a means of deterring that limitation by adding special qualities to that combination, such as storm/dt/reaver because of their capacity have a degree of openness to counters, as well adds a bit of pressure to the enemy, earlier comsat, more turrets, and simply stressing the opponent. Of course there is the risk of having less units, but nowadays protoss pros seem to attempt to be as unpredictable as possible by risking between tech variations to keep the opponent on guard, just one of the tricks in the bag. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
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mizoguchi
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AttackZerg
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QuietIdiot
7004 Posts
All the zerg is doing now is massing hydra and going 1a2a3a4a (moves back) Snipe a few temps but lose a shitload of them in the process. | ||
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mizoguchi
United States50 Posts
got hit by flood control so i go concentrates on game | ||
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AttackZerg
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
Nada vs this toss :\ | ||
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QuietIdiot
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I get the feeling this map is anti-zerg. But then again, this Zerg really really sucked. | ||
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mizoguchi
United States50 Posts
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FaCE_1
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Rucky
United States717 Posts
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AttackZerg
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
and sangho > study right?? whoeverupdate the op plz omg GO NADA. | ||
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Rucky
United States717 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 17 2008 20:22 Rucky wrote: more like the zerg players all play terribly except for savior. hydra vs zealots very smart.... I almost didn't realize you were joking... almost. | ||
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QuietIdiot
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With the right hands(IE Silver) they can be great, but with absolute shit micro, your pretty much fucked. Sangho looks like such a caveman, a true protoss. There is absolutely no fucking way Nada is going to lose to this clown. | ||
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GTR
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On August 17 2008 20:26 AttackZerg wrote: btw who is that hot chick singing the go-go song ... she is really hot. hyori ~_~ | ||
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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Rucky
United States717 Posts
On August 17 2008 20:26 QuietIdiot wrote: Hydras are a hard counter to zealots the same way goons are to lings. With the right hands(IE Silver) they can be great, but with absolute shit micro, your pretty much fucked. Sangho looks like such a caveman, a true protoss. There is absolutely no fucking way Nada is going to lose to this clown. huh? hydras suck to zealots the same way goons suck to lings? is that what you're saying? | ||
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FaCE_1
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QuietIdiot
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Sangho's doing the same exact build on the same exact positions vs the same player he got raped from. Let's see if he learned anything this time around. Aww Nada's not going M+M + the proxy fact. He builds a cc of his own to match the eco and builds a vult off from one fac, really passive play. | ||
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QuietIdiot
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Nada has begun his 2nd fact and sangho manages to kill one vult, lose a zeal, and a red zeal is dancing on the high ground outside of Nada's nat. 2 goons come to reinforce the single zeal, no wait 3, but nada has prepared 2 tanks a few rines and some mines landed around. | ||
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QuietIdiot
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Nada microes fairly well to the naked 6 goons with mining and tank shot gunning and sangho proceeds to do some cavaman micro and loses a few goons in the process. | ||
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QuietIdiot
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3 goons and probes rush to kill, and a vult dies but lands a mine right on the outside skirt of the ramp. Robo still not done but 2 goons remainder from the earlier blue soup massacre join the fight from behind and kill off the tanks. Speed vults rush by in an attempt for some damage, but fails due to the sliding probes and sangho's tight gateway/pylon placement in his main choke. | ||
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tracer
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QuietIdiot
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SHUTTLE COMES IN with zeals while vults simultaenously go into sangho's nat and snipes a few probes. Nada pulls his scv to his tanks at his mineral only and repairs against the dragoon fire. | ||
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FaCE_1
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alffla
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alffla
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QuietIdiot
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Nada moves up with a heavy tank army, with goliaths to supplement, and looks like he wants to take up the center. Sangho is teching to carriers. LOTTA VULTS trying to mine and surround and make its way into sangho's main, and achieves it with 4 survivors wrecking havoc to his probes. He's seen it all, hes going for the kill now, timing's perfect. | ||
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
Edit: And then the rest of the army goes. NADAAAAA! | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
GO NADA :D | ||
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QuietIdiot
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alffla
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AttackZerg
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tracer
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QuietIdiot
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On August 17 2008 20:46 tracer wrote: I hate how Nada tries to act so cute all the time. You're like 25 years old. BE A MAN! He looks like he's 19. Holy crap that's a lotta terrans. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 17 2008 20:46 tracer wrote: I hate how Nada tries to act so cute all the time. You're like 25 years old. BE A MAN! acting like man, when you play videos for a living ( a fucking sick living at that) would be pretty weird. A macho pro gamer would make me laugh more then FHB crying. | ||
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tracer
Korea (South)693 Posts
On August 17 2008 20:51 AttackZerg wrote: acting like man, when you play videos for a living ( a fucking sick living at that) would be pretty weird. A macho pro gamer would make me laugh more then FHB crying. Noone's telling him to be macho, just to stop making 13yo japanese girl pose ceremonies after every win. Btw, I like Nada. Just not that particular part of him. | ||
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sztuczyn
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ZenDeX
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ii.blitzkrieg
Canada1122 Posts
nada>study fantasy>sangho fantasy>nada sangho>study nada>sangho | ||
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VioleTAK
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<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 | ||
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Gregsen
Germany667 Posts
GOD HE'S SO ADORABLE O_O | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On August 17 2008 22:26 Gregsen wrote: NADAAAAAAAAAAA I LOVE YOU SO MUCH GOD HE'S SO ADORABLE O_O Made him look like he's some kind of kid..hahah.. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On August 17 2008 20:58 tracer wrote: Noone's telling him to be macho, just to stop making 13yo japanese girl pose ceremonies after every win. Btw, I like Nada. Just not that particular part of him. I like that even thou the game is so serious he is still goofy... but I understand some might think its childish ... | ||
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