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- Visit the Teamliquid IRC Channel for the VLC stream.
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United States7488 Posts
no Midas
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I'm scared for Midas. I'd feel confident if he was playing anyone else, but seeing as how he will most likely end up playing Luxury... I don't know if he can win the ace for SKT T1.
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On July 25 2008 13:11 semioldguy wrote:no Midas 
Maybe they're saving him for ace to take out Lux ;o -edit- ugh someone beat me to it
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hmm barely any change from ogn. Just chalrenge in and moved around the Terrans.
OGN looks to have the weaker lineup, and I will predict they lose again. OGN played a sniper based lineup last week, but now they are going to have a little more trouble. I wonder why T1 would save Midas for ace when he is a known choker.
+ Show Spoiler [predictions] + Canata > go.go - Last week go.go was able to play on a friendly map against Shuttle, but now he faces a Terran. Both players are TvT specialists, but Canata has been playing so well. I can't see him getting beaten by the likes of go.go.
Best > Leta- Leta was able to win last week through a combination of map abuse and Kal being dumb. Now he faces the best PvTer in the world on a balanced map. I see no chances for Leta even after seeing last weeks game.
T1 < OGN- Fuck, Mujuk is playing.
Hyuk > Shine- O snap its the battle of epic records. Both players seem to struggle horribly in this MU, but I choose Hyuk cuz of Blue Storm.
Bisu > Chalrenge- I just don't think Chalrenge is strong enough to take down Bisu.
thats 4-1 for T1
T1 < OGN- Ogns strongest card in the first 6 sets should take this game.
Midas < Luxury - If it gets this far, Luxury will bring it home for OGN,
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should say, no Lux instead, and yaranc +zeus on 2nd map, wtf? if nothing goes wrong, SKT wins at 5.
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Cheers to another upset!
Game of the week will be BeSt versus Leta. Leta's on a six game win streak I believe and his tank heavy builds should give BeSt problems. It should be interesting to watch!
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Looks to be a good match, i think OGN can take this one.
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Excellent lineups for SKT. Bisu manages to get a PvP (which he's done reasonably well for in PL, particularly on this map), Best gets a PvT on a amp he's confortable with, and Canata and Hyuk end up on good maps with matchups they can handle. SKT 4:1, I think we might see their 2v2 drop it.
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I see big upsets happening, mainly Leta > Best. Just a sneaking suspicion.
I vote OGN in 6, their 2v2 is gonna be a big factor imo.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
I see T1 winning if it stays under 6 games. 6 or over and it becomes OGN's match to lose.
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Hmm...I don't know, OGN really has players that win when you need them to, and SKT T1's lineup doesn't scream unbreakable.
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midas would rape lux on colloseum, map is so easy tvz. i guess ogn was banking on best coming out for the ace, but ill be kinda suprised if they send lux anyway given that midas is the obvious choice now.
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If Bisu loses to Chalrenge then I don't know how much more I can take before I am traumatized.
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On July 25 2008 15:21 IdrA wrote: midas would rape lux on colloseum, map is so easy tvz. i guess ogn was banking on best coming out for the ace, but ill be kinda suprised if they send lux anyway given that midas is the obvious choice now.
It's nice to hear that, especially from a pro's point of view. I feel better about Midas now.
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Needs more zerg. Needs more luxury.
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<spoiler> Canata < go.go i think canata gonna drop it
BeSt > Leta best is just the shit
MuJuK/s2 < Flower/Spear mujuk is bad, spear is ok
Hyuk < Shine map favors hyuk but shine is better
Bisu > Chalrenge bisu is just better than chalrenge
Bul_T/Rumble < YellOw[ArnC]/Zeus its yarnc. and zeus. vs rumble. and bul_t.
i think ogn will win 4-2 </spoiler>
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Canata > go.go Best > Leta SKT < OGN Hyuk < Shine Bisu > Chalrenge SKT = OGN Midas = someone else
Cheering for SKT but this could go either way and the absent of luxury makes you kind of wonder...
Edit: Oppss saw that set 7 was on Colosseum, so we are probably going to see Best ^.^
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Go .go is very strong in the TvT MU so is Canata , if Leta can pull an upset again OGN will most likely take it home . The lineups seems to be a coin toss and is just what i will do when voteing in LB .
Edit:damn OGN again i hope they win for the sake of my LB .
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I think SKT T1 can win this , but yeah, it will be hard.
Canata, BesT and Bisu must take their matches. Hyuk if he trains harder can win his match against Shine (Shine is only 4-12 against Z, the map is 24-42 TvZ (but damn, Hyuk is 1-6 against T ), but still even if he lost it should take the series to an ACE match which no doubt should go to SKT T1 in my opinion .
SKT T1 I believe!
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What? Are you guys fuckn serious? SKT1 is gonna LOL their way past the flukes that beat STX.
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OGN is just as good as SK1 man. Both are nothing spectacular.
Want to place a bet? ;D
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It's sad how pretty much everyone is giving both 2v2 in favour of OGN
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Ok I'm pretty new here, but I've been lurking and reading all the analysis and such for pretty much all the recent tournments as well as watching them on YouTube or Live (when I can) so I'll try my hand at some predictions:
Canata > go.go
BeSt > Leta (BeSt ftw) SKT < OGN
Hyuk < Shine (Hard to predict, Hyuk could take this)
Bisu > Chalrenge SKT > OGN (I feel SKT can pull this 2v2 off but OGN is pretty good 2v2) Ace SKT > Ace OGN
So I think SKT should win this 4-2 possibly 4-1 or 4-3 depending on what happens in the close MUs. OGN will win if Canata, Bisu or BeSt lose and Hyuk or one of the 2v2s can't pick up the slack. I must say I am a little biased towards SKT though with two of my all time favorites on the team in BeSt and Bisu.
Love this forum btw guys!
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On July 25 2008 21:58 Showtime! wrote: OGN is just as good as SK1 man. Both are nothing spectacular.
Want to place a bet? ;D
CALL CALL AND CALL.
Thx for the money. PM PM.
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United States12607 Posts
On July 25 2008 19:17 kpcrew(Gg) wrote:
Canata < go.go i think canata gonna drop it
Bul_T/Rumble < YellOw[ArnC]/Zeus its yarnc. and zeus. vs rumble. and bul_t.
These two calls are extremely suspect. Rumble and Bul_T are 6-2 on Hannibal this season. And Canata dropping a TvT? I don't think so...he was on a 10-0 TvT run before being taken out by Iris in T1's last match of the season (yea, Iris has a great TvT and he also recently beat go.go).
As for the ace game, I'm not sure that Midas is a lock. BeSt is 7-0 on Colosseum. Fucking 7-0! I'd be surprised if they didn't play him, even with OGN threatening Luxury (OSL semis rematch here we come!).
I'm picking T1 4-2, with the losses coming from Hyuk (who does actually have a shot) and their first 2v2 team (which is going to die a horrible death just like it did during the regular season).
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thedeadhaji
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People have a lot more faith in OGN after they beat STX, that's for sure.
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The Pro League has never been this competitive.
Statistically, OGN has been on cruise control for the last half of the season.
Khan is the only team that has been a front runner for the last couple of seasons. I guess that is why they're up for an award.
Anyway, it looks like this match will go down to the bitter end. OGN or SK1 in 6, or 7.
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I hope Canata sticks a Command Center up go.go so deep.
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On July 25 2008 23:17 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2008 19:17 kpcrew(Gg) wrote: <spoiler> Canata < go.go i think canata gonna drop it
Bul_T/Rumble < YellOw[ArnC]/Zeus its yarnc. and zeus. vs rumble. and bul_t. </spoiler> These two calls are extremely suspect. Rumble and Bul_T are 6-2 on Hannibal this season. And Canata dropping a TvT? I don't think so...he was on a 10-0 TvT run before being taken out by Iris in T1's last match of the season (yea, Iris has a great TvT and he also recently beat go.go). As for the ace game, I'm not sure that Midas is a lock. BeSt is 7-0 on Colosseum. Fucking 7-0! I'd be surprised if they didn't play him, even with OGN threatening Luxury (OSL semis rematch here we come!). I'm picking T1 4-2, with the losses coming from Hyuk (who does actually have a shot) and their first 2v2 team (which is going to die a horrible death just like it did during the regular season). midas has been one of the best proleague players this season, you think they dont intend to use him in a playoff match? lux is the obvious choice, colloseum is a really good zvp map and best's pvz is not nearly as good as his pvt and pvp and hed have to split his practice between 2 mu's and 2 map's (and consider the possibility of the ace not being lux)
only way i see best coming out is if they think ogn will expect midas and send gogo/leta to counter him. (but midas would rape those 2 anyway so whatever)
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Time for Best and Bisu to step it up. If either of them loses, SK will be in deep trouble mentally.
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Damn seven a clock is too early for me. But I want to watch this :\
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On July 25 2008 23:22 thedeadhaji wrote: 35:65 OGN:SKT1 at first i thought this was the payout ratio. 1.35x OGN and 1.65x SKT
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Canata > go.go BeSt > leta SKT < OGN Hyuk < Shine Bisu > Chalrenge SKT < OGN
Ace: BeSt > Luxury, BeSt win please!!!!
SKT1 4-3 OGN !!!
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Canata > GoGo A tossup, but canata seems to have a more stable TvT than Gogo
Best > Leta I don't know how badly best has been shaken up by July, but... Savior still did decently in the aftermath of getting crushed by Bisu, so i expect the Devil's Apprentice to beat an insurance terran.
MuJuK/S2 < Flower/Spear These are my least known 2v2 teams, but ill give this one to OGN because Spear actually got INTO the OSL and MSL.
Hyuk > Shine ... a terran on Blue Storm? Unless Shine pulls off some Flash style 8rax, hes gonna get mutafied.
Bisu < Chalrenge Bisu beat Jaedong recently, but his form still has been woeful. Chalrenge should take this in a long , boring PvP.
Bul_T/Rumble > YellOw[ArnC]/Zeus Bul_T and Rumble had the best record in 2v2 for awhile, and as such, they have shown they are a good team. Yarnc and Zeus are both more 1v1 players, and barring any brilliant performances from Yarnc, SK should take this.
Final Result: SK 4 - 2 OGN
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Yarnc/Zeus team has been on a rampage lately
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Canata < go.go TvT, but I think go.go should take this fairly easy. I expect Canata to cheese though.
Best > Leta For me, this is the most important matchup. Best needs to watch the fuck out because Leta is no push-over. I still think Best is a better player but I can honestly say that should he lose, OGN will win.
Mujuk/s2 < Flower/Spear I'm not very confident on this so not much else to say.
Hyuk < Shine I trust in Shine's TvZ better than Hyuk's ZvT.
Bisu > Chalrenge To me, Bisu is the saving grace for SKT in this playoff. He is their one chance to stay alive, he CAN NOT lose!
Bul_T/Rumble < Yellow/Zeus This was extremely hard to choose. I think the chances are more of a 50/50 but since I had to pick a winner, I went along with Yellow/Zeus, but anything is possible.
ACE: Should SKT's 2nd 2v2 team win, the playoff will end up here. OGN has one choice really, Luxury. He is their best bet of taking out any player SKT can send. Personally I think SKT should send Best and not Midas. I am one who tends to favor momentum and mentality strength and since Best just recently came back from 0-2 to beat Lux, I think just his presence will stun the nerves of Lux. Then again, July has made Best look very mortal, and Lux being the adaptive and creative player he is, might have something prepared for him.
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
Apparently, Luxury is so depressed after his match vs Best, that he couldn't play.
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Dude SKT1 has this in the bag...
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Strange, I remember people saying something very similar for STX... OGN is very consistent, and I feel in the long run, consistent teams are more fun to watch than teams with one (and occasionally two) big powerhouses.
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plz win this T1, I need something to cheer me up. 4-0 these bitches
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is awesome32274 Posts
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If SKT loses I will be like ;o!
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
no way hyuk can win, his zvt is 1-7 Canata has a decent TvT, but so does go.go... so... Canata ? go.go BeSt > Leta SKT1 2v2 #1 < OGN 2v2 #1 Hyuk < Shine Bisu > Chalrenge SKT1 2v2 #2 < OGN 2v2 #2
If it goes to ACE, due to the map, I think Midas will definetly play of T1, and Luxury for OGN, and due to stats, I think Midas will win. The key game is the first set, if T1 wins, they will win, if not, they will lose.
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9070 Posts
BeSt wins, Bisu wins, SKT 1 wins
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Luxury's ZvT is the best in the world, he will not lose to Midas
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Go SKT1!!! Rip OGN apart!
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Definitely cheering for SKT1 on this.
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ace match is going to be bisu vs leta
crazy, i know
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On July 27 2008 13:52 kramus wrote: where is everyone? I'm at my apartment in Vancouver
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so who do you want to win
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well if ogn wins 4 or more
or just 4
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On July 27 2008 13:57 kramus wrote: well if ogn wins 4 or more
or just 4 That might work, but im not completely convinced that will result in a win for them
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please bisu for the love of all thats good please dont lose
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i like the music video on gomtv right now
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tell me when it starts so i can turn on the tv!
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ace match would be midas vs luxury for sure (plz make that happen >_<)
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registering an account for the sake of telling bisu to win is very reasonable
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OGN can win the 2v2s and I also don't think Hyuk can manage take his game, but my hopes are with BesT, Canata and Bisu though . If SKT1 manage to get to an ACE match - I think they have better chances in winning , but still maybe Luxury is the hidden triumph card for OGN .
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On July 27 2008 14:02 kramus wrote: i like the music video on gomtv right now whats the url you are using for watching on gom?
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Just woke up for this, its 7am here~~ it better start soon, or ill fall asleep lol
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On July 27 2008 14:02 clazziquai wrote: tell me when it starts so i can turn on the tv! are you trying to make us foreigners jealous?
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its started!! gogo canata!
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On July 27 2008 14:04 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 14:02 kramus wrote: i like the music video on gomtv right now whats the url you are using for watching on gom? i don't think gom has it actually
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No =X
My uncle is hogging the TV and he won't let me change till it starts -0-
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where is Cron and his gosu VLC stream? plz plz
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What was that that the SKT T1 coach just said? Made the crowd cheer and all...
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yeah, with daum i might as well just watch a slideshow of screencaps after the games are over
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yaoyuan isnt showing anything but a black screen
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daum is working good for me
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On July 27 2008 14:09 kramus wrote: yeah, with daum i might as well just watch a slideshow of screencaps after the games are over
It's better to watch a slideshow of screencaps *while the games are happening* though.
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On July 27 2008 14:10 skuj wrote: yaoyuan isnt showing anything but a black screen
lol thought it was just me. It was working fine until the SKT1 team came out. Damnit.
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what i would do for tasteless right now.
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Lol all three of OGN's "star players" according to MBC are Terrans... Let's see how they do against the previous Terran powerhouse known as SKT T1.
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On July 27 2008 14:12 o[twist] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 14:09 kramus wrote: yeah, with daum i might as well just watch a slideshow of screencaps after the games are over It's better to watch a slideshow of screencaps *while the games are happening* though. hahahaha well put
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On July 27 2008 14:12 o[twist] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 14:09 kramus wrote: yeah, with daum i might as well just watch a slideshow of screencaps after the games are over It's better to watch a slideshow of screencaps *while the games are happening* though. its kinda depressing tho (looking on mine slideshow)
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On July 27 2008 14:09 Carefree Me wrote: What was that that the SKT T1 coach just said? Made the crowd cheer and all...
I can't see sparkyz' Strong points. even they have it?
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Nice I actually made it back on time for the match :D
Go, go OGN!
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I lost my right panel in Daum/PotPlayer wtf. I don't see the "mode select icon either"
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well sparkyz just won like their last 7 PL matches in a row or something. they're not too bad.
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On July 27 2008 14:14 Passenger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 14:09 Carefree Me wrote: What was that that the SKT T1 coach just said? Made the crowd cheer and all... I can't see sparkyz' Strong points. even they have it?
Haha, though it sounds cocky, it is so true, Sparkyz has no "strong points". They simply surprise everyone with sub-ace players (with the exception of a top-form Luxury of course).
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Canata's stats are up. Look at those monster TvT stats: 9-1 in his last ten games.
Those 9 games were also part of a 10 game streak.
Sure beats Go.go's 4-3 vT record, yes?
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yeah daum player work like a charm! ^_^
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They both don't have any standouts as far as I'm concerned.
Last night we saw a big upset. Tonight we're likely to see the same.
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On July 27 2008 14:18 PoP-sicle wrote: yeah daum player work like a charm! ^_^ wait til the games start
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Wow, canata's 9-1 in 10 last tvt's and go.go is 7-3.
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Game 1 has started.
Canata yellow @ 5 vs Go.go teal @ 11
Cross positions.
Map: Wuthering Heights
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
kick the chipmunk's ass canata
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i stayed up till 1am and i cant even see it? daum and yaoyuan both dont work for me
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May I just say Daum is working like a dream tonight.
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Nice micro from Canata's marine fools Go.go into thinking that Canata's at 8.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
go.go thinks canata is bottom left now? hahaa canata didnt scout cloaked wraiths though :/
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Incredible antiscout by Canata! Score!
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that amrine fake was a great move lol
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gogo didn't find canata's base at first. It's a really bad luck for sparkyz.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
canata should crush him now. go.go doesnt have his expo yet
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Difficult to root against Canata now, or to expect go.go to win.
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go.go is still in it guys. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
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thedeadhaji
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hmm gogo 3 facts tank wriath vs canata 5 fact tank goliath?
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Canata's little play on confusing go.go as to his base location is definitely something I will be rewatching. Very cute.
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or count out your chickens before they die
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micro mistake by go.go with his wraiths.
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thedeadhaji
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hmm canata 2 base, 3rd cc at min only in red hp, gogo 2 base i think his 3rd cc is like halfway ahead?
oh now it's done.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
lol with these samsung pips. they look really uncomfortable
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
lol @ showing samsung house what the fuk is up with this broadcast.
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haha ouch go.go lost quite a few wraith trying to be smoothe and micro to hit the barracks
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FIREBATHERO SHOWN ON CAM!!! DOING SOME CUTE FACES! :D
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
canata moving into gogo's 9 min only with some tank goliath but.... gogo's forces really outnumber him, like 5 more thanks.
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thedeadhaji
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so yea canata retreats.
look like canata has a permanent tank like (6) at the wide ramp in fornt of gogo's nat, while gogo is... hmm he seems to be pretty mobile with his tanks.
ah gogo up to 6 facts 3 for tanks 3 for... vults for now.
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They have a live webcam in the Samsung Khan House.
Gogo's ttrying to get himself back into it with vult harass.
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canata taking double gas at right center
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omg go.go running through with his tanks lmao!
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thedeadhaji
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both players on 2 facts.
canata just got his sci facility for +2.
hm canata's contain line has no AA so wriaths sould pick it apart.
gogo unsieges everything and moves south along the left side fot he map, looks like he really outnumbers canata baskly in tank count.
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canata drives off harass with 3 tank and a few vults. gogo spots double gas expo going up for canata
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thedeadhaji
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they clash at the bottom left ramp, and canata sets up a tank line above, but gogo moves onwards to canata's choke.
haha canata makes a wraith b/c gogo has ZERO antiair playign with tank vult.
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more wraiths lost trying to kill that barracks ):
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Awesome surround / flank from Canata + wraith harass traps a no goliath army of Go.go's.!
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thedeadhaji
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lol the 1 wraith makes gogo retreat back towards the west, but canata moved tank goliath below ramp and catches gogo, he's being toyed around, but gogo with a massive force moving alogn the top fo the map now, tank vult.
canata moves tank though the middle and sets up at the top right ramp now.
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so basically go.go has like, a lot of units
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Gogo's doing a pretty badass push across the map, before Canata finally sandwhiches it.
Go.go macro's up another army, pretty impressive. Canatas trying to contain the map, seems like not really a winning strat.
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thedeadhaji
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gogo has expanded to the 7 main.
canata has taken the top right middle expo.
gogo sets up his tanks near the choke at the 1 main now... and oO unsieges, moving down, goign arouund canata's tanks!
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thedeadhaji
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gogo trying to move into canata's middle expo, canata standing ground though as of now.
canata beginning to make wraiths consistently out of 1 starport, has 7 facts, all ahve addons????
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thedeadhaji
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canata has such a split up army, like 6 tanks at the top left wride ramp, some units defending his middle base, and one force that just got raped by gogo's new army, that one was at the bottom left wide ramp.
gogo makign a cc at the 12 min only.
canata doing the same at the 6 min only.
but said canata's cccoming under fire from a group of vults, scv down, not sure if it got saved by canata's units though.
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On July 27 2008 14:38 thedeadhaji wrote: gogo trying to move into canata's middle expo, canata standing ground though as of now.
canata beginning to make wraiths consistently out of 1 starport, has 7 facts, all ahve addons????
I noticed the add on thing myself. Because when he pushed accross the map, A lot of his forces were tanks and Canata threw a lot of low tier business at it.
Go.Go enjoys double expanding, and I think that's going to win him the game. He expands so aggressively and Canata can't handle it.
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thedeadhaji
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it's acutally pretty intersting watching canata never relinquish control of the middle, gogo moving aroudn the sides, etc.
gogo has the 12 min only.
he has a cc on the outside of the bottom left middle exp, mining mins only.
canta expanding to the 1 nat. gogo makcing another cc at 7 nat.
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COVERT OPS for Canata!!!!
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thedeadhaji
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canata HAD tanks at the top right wide ramp, but it gets taken down by pure vults with mines bc/ they were all sieged.
canata makign covert ops!
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canata built covert ops and ahead upgrade status
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thedeadhaji
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canta rolling in with like 20 tanks into the 7 main!! where the fucckkk did that come from lawl. I guess its'from the 2 gasses coming online.
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Ah, I keep missing chances to see how many bases they each have.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
nuclear silo from canata baby!
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
canata's middle exp is almost dry, but a new cc lands at the bottom right middle expo, and a nuke silo starts.
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Canata has a covert obs center. They're splitting the map left side right side But the problem is that I think that Canata's inside expo is going to run out soon and he's not really going to have an Income source. But he takes a second inside Expo so he might be safe for now.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
looks like the observer is having a hard time keeping up with the game b/c so much shit is happening all ove rhte pace.
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thedeadhaji
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i think canata takes out the 7 main and nat with minimal units, and moves all his tanks to the top right, where his nat was being encroached by gogo's units.
haha canata has SO much gas.
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this is gonna be another long and boring TvT game
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Nuke building, this could potentially be quite awesome.
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Go.go doing good job with vultures.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
it hink canata still ahst he equivalent of 4 full geysers, b/c he has 3 new ones and 4 depleted ones.
Ghost out!
gogo on the other hand i think only has 2 depleted geysers, he's fucked lol.
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On July 27 2008 14:43 nerdsask wrote:this is gonna be another long and boring TvT game 
It's okay if you don't understand good TvT -_-
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 27 2008 14:43 nerdsask wrote:this is gonna be another long and boring TvT game 
it's about to end.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
haha cloaked ghost is walking in sooo far hahahah it targets 3 tanks?? that's such a weird thign to target, looks like it wont hit anything though haha.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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Unless go.go manages to take another Geyser, Canata is going to run him over.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
canata now expanding to the 7 nat.
his bottom right middle expo is coming under fire from gogo's tanks though.
2 vutls killing scvs at canata's 6 min only, but his econ is so strongg
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And there's a ghost. I think the mines are going to make it really hard them though. He's got to be sneak sneaky.
Nuke detected but Gogo. Moved all his units. And Canata's inside expos is screwed, Canata should have gone dropship.
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thedeadhaji
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hoho some vults and scvs kill 2 tanks at 7 main, gogo saves his cc with about 20 hp left.
hahah another nuke on tank line in the middle that was sieging canta's middle exp, loooooooool 7 tanks die
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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NUKE! Even Go.go chuckles at his 7 tanks blowing up.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
i cant tell if the nuke is b/c canata is so ahead, or b/c he hates gogo hahaha
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ghosts dont get credit for nuke kills? never realised that before
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Canata tries to nuke another tank and actually succeeds this time.
But Go.go quickly counter attacks. Stopping minding at the 4 main and nats.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
canata has to have liek 6 mining bases right now, as opposed to like...2 for gogo.
hmm his scv distribution is really bad though haha.
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i didn't see Canata was ahead too much like that. The stream isn't good. The game will end soon.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
4 tanks coming into gogo's 7 main expo, gg cc.
sooo oh gogo gg's!
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GG. Nicely played by both sides.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
canata aims his nuke at a mine field after go.go ggs :D yesssss
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canata gg'd before 3rd Nuke
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1-0 SK1. As expected so far.
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Yea, Canta has to remacro all of his scvs. But he's got a lot of CCd's to do it from.
The stream's lagging for me too.
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haha. nuke on the mines.....epic. or at least it would have been
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
the T1 medals are so lame hahaha.
and that ceremony was even lamer
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what the hell was that spray shit?
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lol why is everyone so happy today
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Canata did not disappoint, well done by him. Now I can only hope everyone else in SKT does their job as well.
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that was a pretty good tvt, canata's did some kind of ceremony with a gummy worm and some bug spray o_O
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It was a bug and bug spray! Just think of gogo's history.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
what a ridiculously easy win for canata
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Go.go will not be happy with the implications of that ceremony. At all.
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CA10825 Posts
On July 27 2008 14:48 thedeadhaji wrote: the T1 medals are so lame hahaha.
and that ceremony was even lamer oh come on, he used bug spray to kill a bug. it's pretty funny lol
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is there a corinthos/alternative stream? Sorry if it's already been posted, but I've looked everywhere.
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On July 27 2008 14:50 city42 wrote: It was a bug and bug spray! Just think of gogo's history. Could you explain for those of us that may not know gogo's history
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
you can really see the man boobs on that guy fbh with a beany pig!?
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Nukes are always very pleasing to the eye.
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fbh talking some smack on the mic.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
The commentators are hideously dressed. Especially the right and center commentators are just unpleasing to look at.
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On July 27 2008 14:54 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 14:50 city42 wrote: It was a bug and bug spray! Just think of gogo's history. Could you explain for those of us that may not know gogo's history
he used a bug where the scv can walk through units. He was able to scout through a blocked ramp and wasn't punished for it.
Im thinking it was vs TT, but I can't remember the game much
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On July 27 2008 14:57 Roffles wrote: The commentators are hideously dressed. Especially the right and center commentators are just unpleasing to look at. boobies
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ahaha, i was thinking the same thing
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On July 27 2008 14:54 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 14:50 city42 wrote: It was a bug and bug spray! Just think of gogo's history. Could you explain for those of us that may not know gogo's history
gogo had won a game using SCV bug.
after that, in MSL group drawing 910 said to gogo, "I will not lose to bug terran" gogo said "it's not bug, it's a skill."
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On July 27 2008 14:57 Roffles wrote: The commentators are hideously dressed. Especially the right and center commentators are just unpleasing to look at. ya, they look like a bad dream from the 80s. Ive noticed that with a lot of the commentators
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Anyone know what the SKT T1 sign said? (the one on their table)
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On July 27 2008 14:59 Passenger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 14:54 Mastermind wrote:On July 27 2008 14:50 city42 wrote: It was a bug and bug spray! Just think of gogo's history. Could you explain for those of us that may not know gogo's history gogo had won a game using SCV bug. after that, in MSL group drawing 910 said to gogo, "I will not lose to bug terran" gogo said "it's not bug, it's a skill." And then he beat 910 7-0 in a so called pathetic grudge match, and did all sorts of bm stuff to piss off various other pros, that earned him a nice thumb-down from BeSt after a proleague loss :-)
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On July 27 2008 14:58 kNyTTyM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 14:54 Mastermind wrote:On July 27 2008 14:50 city42 wrote: It was a bug and bug spray! Just think of gogo's history. Could you explain for those of us that may not know gogo's history he used a bug where the scv can walk through units. He was able to scout through a blocked ramp and wasn't punished for it. Im thinking it was vs TT, but I can't remember the game much oh, thanks. I remember hearing of that incident, I just didnt know who it was
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On July 27 2008 14:59 Passenger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 14:54 Mastermind wrote:On July 27 2008 14:50 city42 wrote: It was a bug and bug spray! Just think of gogo's history. Could you explain for those of us that may not know gogo's history gogo had won a game using SCV bug. after that, in MSL group drawing 910 said to gogo, "I will not lose to bug terran" gogo said "it's not bug, it's a skill."
Also, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71376
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I love that intro so much
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Best last ten vT: 7-3 Leta last ten vP: 3-7

For those of you that will mention Leta is on a 3 vP win streak...
I know.
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Game 2 has started.
Best brown @ 11 vs Leta red @ 1
Map: Othello
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
game 2 othello
best at 11 leta at 1.
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here comes the BeSt match so far :D
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The way Leta built that supply depot... it actually makes the SCV come out at the wrong side of the command center...
Mistake?
It's usually placed 1 box lower.
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thedeadhaji
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standard shit from both.
only notable thing is that leta going as heavy on econ as possible with depot and rax next to cc.
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BEST FOOLS LETA'S SCOUT BY TURNING BACK HIS OWN SCOUT
SKT T1 FOR SCOUT CONFUSION!!!!!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
awful building positions from Leta, his scvs will come out in a terrible spot
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lol, scout fooled two games in a row
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thedeadhaji
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Oo best denies scv scout with 2 probes, and... woah wtf??
so I think he sent back his probe scout, then scv saw it go back, and so leta thought that scouting probe was going "in" to the 11 main from like some other direction, so leta send him scv immediatley to 7 main and nothing's there.
best had blocked the ramp with 2 probes but lol
what a blunder hahaha
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
confusing the scout award: skt t1
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Leta's building position is kind of odd .. and Best confused his scout. I have to wonder if SKT didn't all plan some sort of scout confusion : p
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Man, Best is so good, he's at an advantage like a minute into the game already.
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thedeadhaji
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what the hell is leta doing with his scvs around teh map -_-
1 zeal 1 goon on ramp prevent scv from coming into best's main.
leat sends a scv from his main down to 3 min only and then to 6 min only.
1 fact 1 star from leta.
1 gate reaver from best.
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Starport though, natural counter to robo isn't it?
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I've always wondered why scout confusion isn't done more often. It seems like it has incredible potential for fucking up the opponent at a time when there's not anything else you need to pay that much attention to.
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thedeadhaji
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fd army from leta going up best's ramp, 1 zeal 1 probe 2 goon vs 2 scv 5 marine 1 tank 1 vult, 1 goon remains, as well as teh tank and vults after reaver comes in to save the day.
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wraith siiir wraith siiir end it now
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thedeadhaji
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mines being laid at nat.
obs out from best going straigh tto leta's main.
probe scout dies to a vult before seeing starport in corner of main i believe.
dropship drops 4 vlutsl in main, 2 goons are righ there but leta laying mines very well. 1 goon dies, gates mined up, but reaver at mineral line prevets probe losses.
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LoL stuffed up the scouting
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Best deals with the dropship and the vultures with few losses, hm.
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Those are gosu scarabs this game...
One takes out three marines, another takes out two running vultures.
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nice scarab. got the two vults after all D:
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thedeadhaji
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let mining up the area behidn his main minline, cc about halfway done at his nat.
siege going now after both vult upgrades done.
3 goons guarding bests's main.
ebay being made, along with 2nd fact.
1 wriath patrolling for reaver.
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thedeadhaji
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so leta begins mining from his nat pretty significantly earlier than best, like 20 seconds earlier.
best with tempar tech in teh corner of his main.
dropsihp going aroudn the bottom of the map.
best with 3 goons and a obs in his main.
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best godly hack ready for the dropship with the reaver on top
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
3 facts for leta, before going inw ith dropship, he checks the 9 min only area with a vult.
andddd drops.... 2 vults anddddd 1 tank!!
aiming at probes, 5 probes killed
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
damn that took out a lot of probes
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reaver saves the day though
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
so best positioned reavers above his nat cliff but leta come in from bottom.
ah leta just lost his dship.
2 vultscame to bests's nat and killed a few probes.
arbiter tech being made now.
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Tank kills 5 probes. Goons took care of it right away though.
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best obviously maphacking
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Best going for arbiters, Leta's drops have not been so effective.
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thedeadhaji
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arbiter warping in. 4 gates.
looks like best has made quite a few obs.
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leta is trying to harass both mineral patches with vult, tank drops.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
best with 12 goons at his nat choke.
lol best dropped 2 reavers at his min only at 9, and it almost hit a mine roflrofl.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
hahaha!!!! reavers!!!!! best needs a 4th man
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leta needs to punish him for the early tech. 3 base to 2.
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holy shit, that mine was close
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thedeadhaji
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4 vults radiing in from bottom into min only, but cant do shit vs 2 reavers.
leta already mining from his 3rd, best doesnt take his 3rd, and takes the min only indtead.
6 facts for leta, armory spining.
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reaver great placement. he almost lost one to the drop.
vults try to get in but the two reavers stop it.
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thedeadhaji
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oO reaver dropped behidn let's 3rd's wall and tries to kill scvs, but scarab glitches as scvs drill towards his nat.
arbiter out.
best taking his 3rd, which is his 4th nexus
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reaver drop FAIL! AI Scarab screwup no damage even though he had time to crawl out!
8-9 fact for leta
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Surely Leta has to be expecting something given he knows Best has taken his min only.
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The vulture micro against that reaver jebus.
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thedeadhaji
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wowowowowowoowow leta with fucking amazing vulture control against 1 reaver at the min only of best, great split up aroudn the reaver, and every time a scarab fires he dashes back and avoids the critical damage wow.
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OMFG DID YOU SEE THAT VULTURE MICRO FROM LETA? holy shit.
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holy shit @ dodging scarabs
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BeSt about to make his move. Leta has a size nice army though, with vessel.
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thedeadhaji
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2 arbiters out, only 1 with army.
leta with... like 16 tanks, a group of vults,a nd 4 goliaths, he's unsieged, sci vessels is out, and his' mvoing up towards the 12 min only now and sprawling towards there, luna style.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
fuck yeah almost failed recalled!
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thedeadhaji
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arbiter looks like it wnts to recall!! goign in from teh south, vessle is there but no esmp!!
4 goliatsh at let'as nat, arbiter forced to recall below the ramp before it dies!!leta dealign with it pretty damn well, lifts nat cc, uuses new vults from facts to mine up the ramp so they cant come up easily, and brings back a portionof his army to kill off the recall.
bests' 3rd is under fire no probes mining, vults come in and snipe a ht!!
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thedeadhaji
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best expanding to the 3rd base at 7 o lcock.
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Wow, very exciting play on both sides.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
8 facts 3 addons for leta.
cc goign up at 12 min only.
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leta is fuckign strong man
that recall didn't do enough damage
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thedeadhaji
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3 cannons at 9 min only. 4 cannons at the 3rd base at 7oclcok.
another arbiter going for recall??
spotted by floating rax though, and there's qutie a few turrets on the arbiter path to the main.
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Leta macro looks really nice this game. Leta putting lots of pressure on BeSt's front. BeSt can't find a weakness to attack.
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thedeadhaji
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best taking the 7 main now as well.
best moving through teh middle of the map, loses 2 goons to mines alogn the way. looks liek he wants to come into leta's 3rd from teh south.
leta's army is towards the north, he doesnt have many units here to defend.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
damn failed recall this time
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
best goes straight for the scanner on teh 3rd base, kills that but little else, leta gathering a little more units to his 3rd.
best went for a recall but turret fire and goliath fire + tanks, vessle already there, and he gives up, aribter dies at let'as nat.
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thedeadhaji
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leta with many turrets at his main minin eagaisnt recall.
huge clash in teh middle fo the map, liek 6 tankd did die to zeal / ht and later goons but leta with soooooooo many tanks.
arbiter get's emp'e.
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thedeadhaji
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best takign the 7 nat now as well.
mining off 4 bases. main is dry.
leta mining off 3 bases. main is dry
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this looks like a very intense series of pictures can't wait to watch it when it comes out in video form
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thedeadhaji
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leta siegin ginto bests' nat, best sandwiching from teh top and bottom, LOLOL leta sieged his tanks all toegeter so 6 tanks get stasised at once.
but haha so many jnits, and like 7 more tanks from reinforcement, best is completely overwhelmed.
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thedeadhaji
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leta spreads out his tanks this time before sieging, and stasis comes off of the rest of his tanks.
tanks now sieging into the min only as well.
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leta's macro is too strong. He's creaming him now. Even with stasis.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
best looing to recall.
leta killed bests' nat. bests's min only, working on bests' 3rd at 7 o clcok.
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last front.
recall coming soon
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Leta playing like a turtling pussy. Pushes out after he been turtling for 15 minutes
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well, unless Best pulls some magic out of his ass this game is over
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
about 1.5 control grounds of untis coming into best's 7 nat now. dunno what best is doing, watiting for energy?
LOL leta scans THE area where the arbiter was, on the cliff above hsi 3rd.
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best should gg soon. hopefully this will go to 7th set
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
best recalls, and his recall force is near leta's rallypoint, and all his untis just die.
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here it comes! gols ON IT
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
damn it's gg soon, leta's good
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Best has no answer to LETA's POWA
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Nothing special this game, leta just turlted and best reied recalls, fails and leta attack moves out.
TERRAN IS LAME
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
leta now moving up to the 7 main, best does have a good # of gateways there.
still has a contain on bests' main.
leta rallying shittons of crap from his nat to the 7 main.
best comes in with a small force and is killing some of leta's units at his nat but it's so insignicicant.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
best loses all mining nodes.
leta mining from 12, his 3rd, and 3 min only.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
ah best clears the contain on his main, but then ggs.
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BeSt types out. He didn't play aggressive enough in begining and Leta showed amazing macro.
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awww hell. That looked a little too easy for Leta
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those upgrades just raped best's army. leta could almost just attack-move. imba, lol
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that's a happy Leta~
and a very "fuck you best" thumbs down
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 27 2008 15:30 HanN00b wrote: VLC Stream?
dude arent you the one who eitehr asked for R1ch's stream here yesterday or the one who psoted it, and got shit for it? That link isnt meant to be posted here.
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On July 27 2008 15:30 Highways wrote:Nothing special this game, leta just turlted and best reied recalls, fails and leta attack moves out. TERRAN IS LAME
That's BS man.
Leta played that wonderfully. He was aggressive as hell.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
man why he gotta thumbs down. he should not get into go.go's shit
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lol at getting all my predictions wrong
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Leta is fucking pimp lately.
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best sure likes to touch his lips when he loses
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Damn, Best didn't seem to do enough damage at all.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
dude leta played beautifully, making best paranoid about harassment attempts literally everywhere, microed his harassment well, macroed well, chose a great build for the map, executed it well despite best being prepared for it with goons already there before drops, and got a little bit of luck when he made a 2nd drop to the main instead of where best's reavers were at.
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Mujuk is playing 2v2 -.- SKT1 going down 1-2
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On July 27 2008 15:28 Highways wrote: Leta playing like a turtling pussy. Pushes out after he been turtling for 15 minutes
Turtle, cheese, all the same excuse. I started the game a bit late, but its easy to assume that Best was really light on his harass early.
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On July 27 2008 15:32 Kentor wrote: man why he gotta thumbs down. he should not get into go.go's shit its called being teamates man
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If you call that turtling then you don't know TvP.
Your BeSt wasn't good enough! 2v2 timmmmme baby!
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On July 27 2008 15:30 HanN00b wrote: VLC Stream? not needed man. daum player's stream is great tonight. No lag and high quality
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yeah daum is faster than anything else right now. I have 0 lag.
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damn why so many commercials
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Valhalla18444 Posts
wow best hasnt played that bad since he was a rookie
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yaoyuan tvants stream is good as well.
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Worst possible time for Best to let his play level drop, damn. Hopefully the 3:0 hasn't got to him ...
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Damn, BesT still can't get over with the terrible lost from July on the OSL finals . Damn, those arbiters didn't do anything good . The chances for SKT1 win looks very slim to me now . Damn .
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That is the scary 200/200 Terran ball that always runs right over me -_-
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why the hell is yaoyuan showing best vs july on me? :S
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thedeadhaji : Whats the issue with the VLC stream? I kind of notice some people bitching about being posted in the forums, but whats wrong with it?
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CA10825 Posts
On July 27 2008 15:39 M2 wrote: thedeadhaji : Whats the issue with the VLC stream? I kind of notice some people bitching about being posted in the forums, but whats wrong with it? R1CH has requested that it not be posted online due to people stealing it, posting it up in other places, and raping his bandwidth.
*edit* "other places" being two somewhat known websites that TL isn't... too fond of.
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ah hell, yaoyuan isnt even streaming for me
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On July 27 2008 15:38 Mastermind wrote: wondergirls!
You sure you don't mean Girl's Generation? (We could be speaking of different commercials)
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lol at the comments of Leta "turtling". Seems to me he had control of the map the whole game, kept denying Best's 4th(i believe), and was overall more aggressive than Best.
Great, great game. Recommended.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 27 2008 15:39 M2 wrote: thedeadhaji : Whats the issue with the VLC stream? I kind of notice some people bitching about being posted in the forums, but whats wrong with it?
if it gets posted here, or in any other forum, etc, R1ch will take down the stream entirely.
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just use daum.
flawless stream
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We've had issues of other sites taking R1CH's stream and claiming it as their own. -_-
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Man that was some sad sad play by BeSt.
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On July 27 2008 15:41 Carefree Me wrote:You sure you don't mean Girl's Generation?  (We could be speaking of different commercials) whatever, cute korean girl group is what i saw.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 27 2008 15:42 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: just use daum.
flawless stream
daum isnt an option for a lto of pple b/c its bandwidth requirements are SO high.
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i hope we see a teamwide brawl between sk and OGN after each side keeps thumbing the other down after victories. then oov gets in and gorillapwns everyone kek
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On July 27 2008 15:41 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 15:39 M2 wrote: thedeadhaji : Whats the issue with the VLC stream? I kind of notice some people bitching about being posted in the forums, but whats wrong with it? if it gets posted here, or in any other forum, etc, R1ch will take down the stream entirely. if i may ask. I just reinstalled windows and VLC.yaoyuan is not working for me and the vlc used to work fine so is there any way of finding this stream or can someone pm it to me. Daum doesnt work for me right now either.
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Need a miracle for SKT to win this 2v2 set.
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I agree zgl ;s
I'm going to miss 2v2s
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 27 2008 15:47 Yaqoob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 15:41 thedeadhaji wrote:On July 27 2008 15:39 M2 wrote: thedeadhaji : Whats the issue with the VLC stream? I kind of notice some people bitching about being posted in the forums, but whats wrong with it? if it gets posted here, or in any other forum, etc, R1ch will take down the stream entirely. if i may ask. I just reinstalled windows and VLC.yaoyuan is not working for me and the vlc used to work fine so is there any way of finding this stream or can someone pm it to me. Daum doesnt work for me right now either.
if i had it i'd pm it to you but unforutnately i didnt bother 
my connection is handling daum, although worse than it did last night.
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yeah this 2v2 is gonna be funny
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
2v2 game3 hunters
T1 team s2 - blue 6 mujuk - yellow - 7
flower - brown - 11 hmm who is the ogn P - oj - 3
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
ah it's speak.
9pool speed for s2 both tosses forward gate.
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its spear and sktt1 got pretty good spawning point
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
hmmm difficult to tell what flower did but it's either 9ool speed or overpool speed, comparing with s2, looks liek his shit is a bit later so yea i think it's overpool.
3 gates for spear.
2 at choke for mujuk.
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yeah. Good spawn for SKT - better rush Spear@3.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
Oo mujuk goign forge.
pylon goes up at spear's nat.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
2 lings from s2 come into spear's minline, picks off a probe.
sield battery and cannon comign up for mujuk, with 5 zeals formign a line .
of fuck me it's 2 cannons.
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Mass fail from SKT. Canons taken out.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
so mujuk with 5 zeals, 2 cannosn coming in. speak coming in!!
7 zeals and probe drilling!! flower comign in with lings from behidn, s2 coming behind that!
wow cannon/zeal line broken super easily.
spear wrecking mujuk's gateway line mujuk rewarping gates and a cannon, totally outnumbered, flower keeping s2 under control with his lings as well.
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most terrible 2v2 play i've seen in a while
from t1 that is
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
both zergs on 3 hatch lings.
2 sunks from s2 in his minline.
s2 sneaks 2 lings into spear's minline and takes 2 probes or so.
mujuk warping 2 cannosn adn a gate at his nexus, drilling probes to try to fend off spear's zeals. he does a great job at it, but it's going to be futile.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
5 mroe zeals from spear, and lings from flower.
cannons down, and probes flee.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
so mujuk is dead.
zeal ling attack onto s2's main.
haha nexus from spear in s2's main.
gg form T1 team.
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spear puttin a bm proxy nexus
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God what terrible play. Spear could have taken out the canon rush just by himself.
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That was absolutely fucking terrible by SKT's 2v2, damn.
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United States10774 Posts
LETA>BEST? WHAT? Leta ur so good
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I like the double manner nexus. Good build.
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On July 27 2008 15:58 OneOther wrote: LETA>BEST? WHAT? Leta ur so good
That game was more Best playing impossibly bad, damn. Right now I am wishing Midas was in the goddamn lineup, because aside from Canata SKT has fallen apart so far. : /
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bul_T/rumble should put up a better showing
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oh wow its not over yet. ok tuning in
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Can't any of the OGN players win without having to do a completely dumb/classless thing at the end?
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OGN is a 2v2 team and a team of 2 matchup snipers.
Hurrah SKT1~! Dominate plz.
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MuJuK and s2 were completely decimated as expected . And those 2 Nexuses - lol.
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im all for ceremonies and such, (fbh is my favorite player). but ogns are not fun/funny., just rude.
the proxy nexuses and all that jaz are cool. but thumbs down? really. how is that funny.
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Now it's Shine's time to SHINNE
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On July 27 2008 16:02 spydernoob wrote: im all for ceremonies and such, (fbh is my favorite player). but ogns are not fun/funny., just rude.
the proxy nexuses and all that jaz are cool. but thumbs down? really. how is that funny. the thumbs down is in reponse to Best thumbing down gogo(?) in a past proleague match.
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On July 27 2008 16:00 thunk wrote: OGN is a 2v2 team and a team of 2 matchup snipers. Agree, the coaches seem to be able to read their opponents minds and place their players/snipers almost perfectly at times.
I hope that T1 advances to the finals with all my heart, It'd be truly awesome.
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It's going to be a big uphill climb for them.
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To be fair, s2 and Mujuk did stay in the game for a little too long. They deserved those 2 nexuses. -_-
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On July 27 2008 15:59 PoP wrote: Can't any of the OGN players win without having to do a completely dumb/classless thing at the end?
On July 27 2008 16:07 Carefree Me wrote: To be fair, s2 and Mujuk did stay in the game for a little too long. They deserved those 2 nexuses. -_-
yea, basically I have to agree with you carefreeme
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On July 27 2008 16:04 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:02 spydernoob wrote: im all for ceremonies and such, (fbh is my favorite player). but ogns are not fun/funny., just rude.
the proxy nexuses and all that jaz are cool. but thumbs down? really. how is that funny. the thumbs down is in reponse to Best thumbing down gogo(?) in a past proleague match. And that was a response to the infamous incident of go.go's bug he usage and being bm in the group selection ceremonies.
So I guess we can blame go.go for starting this all. burn!!
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shine versus hyuk starting!
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On July 27 2008 16:10 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:04 Mastermind wrote:On July 27 2008 16:02 spydernoob wrote: im all for ceremonies and such, (fbh is my favorite player). but ogns are not fun/funny., just rude.
the proxy nexuses and all that jaz are cool. but thumbs down? really. how is that funny. the thumbs down is in reponse to Best thumbing down gogo(?) in a past proleague match. And that was a response to the infamous incident of go.go's bug he usage against TT as far as I know. So I guess we can blame go.go for starting this all. burn!!
I think it's just from his BM and rudeness rather than the bug in particular.
I mean Forgg did the exact same bug when it was already accepted as a bug and autolossed, and pple dont do anything against him so.
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it was a reponse to the proxy cc that go.go did to best in a game before that one
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I mean look at gogo. He doesnt look like a "professional" does he?
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Commentators dressed like grade school kids. Anyway, I hope Hyuk can win this set.
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On July 27 2008 16:11 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:10 Puosu wrote:On July 27 2008 16:04 Mastermind wrote:On July 27 2008 16:02 spydernoob wrote: im all for ceremonies and such, (fbh is my favorite player). but ogns are not fun/funny., just rude.
the proxy nexuses and all that jaz are cool. but thumbs down? really. how is that funny. the thumbs down is in reponse to Best thumbing down gogo(?) in a past proleague match. And that was a response to the infamous incident of go.go's bug he usage against TT as far as I know. So I guess we can blame go.go for starting this all. burn!! I think it's just from his BM and rudeness rather than the bug in particular. I mean Forgg did the exact same bug when it was already accepted as a bug and autolossed, and pple dont do anything against him so. Yeah I just started thinking about it and added before I saw your post, you're right.
Didn't know about the ForGG thing though! Interesting.
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blue storm.
hyuk at 1 (Z) Shine at 7 (T)
yay tvz!!
and this miracle sparkyz line is so gay.
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Game 4 has started.
Hyuk red @ 1 vs Shine white @ 7
Map: Blue Storm
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On July 27 2008 16:12 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:11 thedeadhaji wrote:On July 27 2008 16:10 Puosu wrote:On July 27 2008 16:04 Mastermind wrote:On July 27 2008 16:02 spydernoob wrote: im all for ceremonies and such, (fbh is my favorite player). but ogns are not fun/funny., just rude.
the proxy nexuses and all that jaz are cool. but thumbs down? really. how is that funny. the thumbs down is in reponse to Best thumbing down gogo(?) in a past proleague match. And that was a response to the infamous incident of go.go's bug he usage against TT as far as I know. So I guess we can blame go.go for starting this all. burn!! I think it's just from his BM and rudeness rather than the bug in particular. I mean Forgg did the exact same bug when it was already accepted as a bug and autolossed, and pple dont do anything against him so. Yeah I just started thinking about it and added before I saw your post, you're right. Didn't know about the ForGG thing though! Interesting.
also i wrote a short thing about gogo on sc2.org back then, commenting that he has "attitude" and comes off as somewhat of a playground brat, of sorts.
That kind of impression hasnt reallychanged.
IDK he's clearly bm and stuff but just like fbh I think those kind of 'characters' are valuable to have around.
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Somehow I feel like I should cheer for Shine, I've somehow always liked him despite his terrible performance, I guess I kind of like his nose.
Can't cheer for him this time though, its a real and important match T1 just has to win.
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Here's hoping shine's TvZ is still laughably horrible!
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On July 27 2008 16:14 Puosu wrote: Somehow I feel like I should cheer for Shine, I've somehow always liked him despite his terrible performance, I guess I kind of like his nose.
Can't cheer for him this time though, its a real and important match T1 just has to win.
his chin! don't forget his chin!
kaiji chin buahaha
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Tell me if his play is chinpressive this game.
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shien has gone depot rax -> depot at the choke -> bunker at nat.
curious.
cc at nat later, so wants to be safe vs lings but be greedy as well.
hyuk hatched right after yes overpool gas.
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so hyuk going for a turbo 2 hatch muta build.
2 hatch lair.
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HOLY SHIT.
lair alreayd finished. spire going up and like, shine only has 4 scvs at his nat, acad going up holys hit.
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2nd gas now minign for hyuk. he has baout 12 rines now. acad done. 2 raxes. 1 gas mining.
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Ugh seems like my Daum stream is terribly behind, I'll have to stop reading to stop spoiling myself! Full screen time.
Lovely build from Hyuk anyway.
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no ebay in sight.
scanner going up.
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shine has an ebay i'm pretty sure, bottom left
obs is just terrible at his job
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drone at 5 expo.
spire finishes!!
2 scanners!
1 group of mnm moves out.
about... 5 mutas making, here comes a 6th.
woah turrts went up at nat.
whre's the ebay.
ahh obs missed it till now its at the corner of his main.
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2 hatch mutalisk harass build i don't know about that. he better show good harass.
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mnm in teh center of the map.
muta ling comes into against it, lololol oh god all lings die, 1 muta dies, 2nd mut dies, 3rd muta dies, holy shit hyuk you suck.
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So basically Hyuk found a way to get mutas out faster than anticipated.
That type of BO innovatino does not happen often, I'm really impressed.
His drone count is pretty high too.
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Shine man. He's handing it to you on a silver platter.
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3 mutas died clearing those mnm.
shien going up to 3 raxes.
3, now 4 turrets at nat.
god hyuk you rmuta micro was embarassing.
mutas comin in from teh north into shine's main.
lol only kills 3 scv, goes out after being hit fairly hard by mnm.
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3 gas guardians.
can hyuk fukcing keep shien in his bas with this shitty ass muta control though?
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thats a lot of scv to lose
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hahaha shine lost all his scvs at his main
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yah Hyuk! Kill a bunch of Shine's workers!
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hyuk kills some marines in shine's main with mutas, shien making dual stars.
oh nice he kills about 4-5 scvs really smooothly, maybe he was just being hit by nerves.
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looking bad for hyuk already, he keep losing too much muta,
shine doing 2 port
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Nice Muta raid
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scouts 2 port *and* gets a ton of scv kills
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piss poor harass... he's not even harassing. hive tech looooooooool
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btw hyuk added an evo after first batch of mutas.
oh god hyuk tries to micro vs 5 turrets at nat and epic fails.
shien going 2 star dual addon vessels.
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Oh wow, Shine pays dearly for not bothering to defend his main.
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lol hyuk losing SOOOO many mutas just lost another 3 while doing no dmg to shien whatsoever.
hmm ultras! 1 carapace on lings atm.
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intersting, ultras not guardians
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hyuk going fast ultra o,o
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honestly sk is going to wreck those ultras with this timing....
hyuk takign the 6 expo.
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4 scourge out. 12 lings, and more mutas being made sparingly.
2 vessels out.
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hyuk is whoring it up big time.
Not one sunk.
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woah did a depot just burn donw?? i guess mutas were harassing it before.
ultra cavern done. not sure if lings have +2 armor yet.
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1 group of sk terran chilling at min only.
shien adding gates now.
first ultras out, loosk like they have 2 armor.
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hyk with abotu 4 mutas left? grouped in with scourge.
4 vessles for shine.
mutas fly into shine's mian, FINDS TWO DROPSHIPS!!
dropships scourged!!
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shine shouldn't have let him whored it up
he's still trying to deal with the mutalisks, staying in his base.
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ohh nice hyuk sacs abotu 3 mutas in exchange for scourgign 2/4 of shine's vessles.
LOL 3 ultras getting trapped at hyuk's nat, ai confused so bad.
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Hyuk forgot about the pathfinding bug -.-
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hyuk countering!!!
4 ultars and like 20 lings!!
shien with 7 raxes, his marines are dropping like flies, cc lifts!
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hahaha wow i was just about to say how easily those drop ships could turn things around -___-
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roflroflrofl shien losing EVERYTHING!!!
gg from shine rofl epic failllllll
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Hyuk RAPING Shinee's main
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ultraling army in shine's base!! slaughterin!!! hahh shine ggs!!! hahah thats right you ugly shine
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Well, Hyuk's muta useage was fucking terrible ... but Shine failed even harder.
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lol hyuk returns the favor with the thumbs down.
SKT1 2 - 2 OGN
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okay they'll all do the dumb thumbs down thing it seems :/
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man what a sloppy game hyuk was playing so nervous too
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yay got here just in time ...
bisu vs chalrenge
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wow, hyuk actually played pretty well
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On July 27 2008 16:27 HaXxorIzed wrote: Well, Hyuk's muta useage was fucking terrible ... but Shine failed even harder.
i know, right? -___-
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SKT needed this set. Didn't think Hyuk had it in him. Solid play keeping Shine contained till his ultras came out. Muta control was mediocre, but it was enough. I'm relieved.
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That was so pathetic.
My God Shine lol...
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i will sell my everlasting soul for a bisu victory here
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come on bisu, dont screw it pls
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Awesome, now Bisu just needs to cut chal up and hand it over to SKT's good 2v2 team.
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Haha, I guess his TvZ is still laughably terrible indeed!
I don't think Hyuk played very well at all, and in all honesty I get the feeling I just watched an entertaining but awful game. xD
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Shine didn't do anything. Hyuk had no defense at all.
What a babo!
Yeah Zero I agree.
Shine didn't do anything that game whatsoever.
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am I the only one who's noticed Pop's new name? LOL
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was hyuk lucky or good about his scouting?
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now bisu will own it up and bring 3-2 to SKT
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On July 27 2008 16:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: am I the only one who's noticed Pop's new name? LOL No, you're just centuries behind us others.
eheh
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Well, Hyuk was lucky because a good terran would have owned his weak muta control and moved out a lot faster.
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Hyuk had a cool build. Gorush esque. And his control and micro... very Gorush esque.
SUCCESS!!!
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On July 27 2008 16:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: am I the only one who's noticed Pop's new name? LOL yeah he's had it for a while now...
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that was great play by hyuk :D
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Nah, he got really lucky. Shine stayed home the all game worrying about mutalisk fire and Hyuk's build was garbage. He went 2 base mutalisk and tech whored with no added protection lol.
Weird BO
but it worked.
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i hope this goes to ace. luxury best rematch?
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uh no they wouldnt send Best out, i dont think.
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On July 27 2008 16:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: am I the only one who's noticed Pop's new name? LOL
^^ it's been like that for a week or two.
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No, I think they'll send out midas if it comes down to that.
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i wonder if they'd actually send out a zerg on collosuem considering it's a t favored map and midas is clearly coming out on it.
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the map is... t>z and p>t I feel, but OGN has no tosses....
hmmmmmmmm
yea I guess just banking it on luxury's zvt is their best bet.
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On July 27 2008 16:31 d_so wrote: i hope this goes to ace. luxury best rematch? I believe its going to be a TvT, but I really can't think of any terran player from OGN who could stand up against the T1 terrans, I guess go.go is the strongest one but he already played and I doubt he has practiced for two maps.
Or they could send someone to snipe for Midas who seems to be the most likely ace from T1.
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OGN could send out Chal, if he does really well in this game. Got no idea about how effective an ace he is, though.
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I have reason to believe they'll send out leta again on it.
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luxury's awesomeness against flash on coliseum might make them think twice before sending midas. i dono though.
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Woah Bisu looks like a cold blooded killer and Chalrenge is smiling like a school boy
I thought it was the other way around.
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go bisu! pwn chal with youre mighty bisu build (lol)
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On July 27 2008 16:37 d_so wrote: luxury's awesomeness against flash on coliseum might make them think twice before sending midas. i dono though. when did lux play flash on colo? if you are talkin about their OSL match, game 1 = troy. game 2 = andromeda
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Bisu has got to take this
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why do they have those poor guys wearing blouses
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On July 27 2008 16:38 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:37 d_so wrote: luxury's awesomeness against flash on coliseum might make them think twice before sending midas. i dono though. when did lux play flash on colo? if you are talkin about their OSL match, game 1 = troy. game 2 = andromeda He probably means the first game, it was an impressive game but certainly not on Colosseum.
In fact Luxury has only played a televised match on Colosseum only once and he lost it.
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On July 27 2008 16:37 d_so wrote: luxury's awesomeness against flash on coliseum might make them think twice before sending midas. i dono though.
... troy?
completely different map.
leta is indeed a good choice imo.
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On July 27 2008 16:41 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: why do they have those poor guys wearing blouses
GOD THE TITS
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On July 27 2008 16:38 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:37 d_so wrote: luxury's awesomeness against flash on coliseum might make them think twice before sending midas. i dono though. when did lux play flash on colo? if you are talkin about their OSL match, game 1 = troy. game 2 = andromeda
Yeah, it was troy. I almost thought it was on coliseum myself after reading that. Both maps are the same tileset and have interesting ideas, but make for pretty lame games after you've seen a few. 
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I don't believe SKT T1 can lose both of its next two matches...
They're in good shape.
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On July 27 2008 16:41 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:41 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: why do they have those poor guys wearing blouses GOD THE TITS omfg I just noticed
GOD im never going to be able to listen to him seriously
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Game 5 has started.
Bisu red @ 12 vs Chalrenge yellow @ 6
Map: Katrina SE
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ka tri na
chalrenge - yellow - 6 bisu - red - 12
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On July 27 2008 16:41 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: why do they have those poor guys wearing blouses
This can't be asked enough. The usual matching attire thing is okay and all, but not when your commentators look like they've been dressed up for a tea party by a 5 year old.
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I'm so glad they changed the colors. Don't want a repeat of Bisu vs Stork game 5. -_-
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oh wtf they unallied chalrenge.
bisu is now white and chalrege is yellow.
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lol stork get the hell off the screen
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Yet again in any other case I'd cheer for Chalrenge in this situation to see if he performs a ceremony.
But sadly I'm bound to cheer for Bisu so T1 can advance to the finals.
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stork ftw bisu>stork on katrina
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Bisu's early scout pays off, he's going to see the cybernetics core.
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1 gate gas for chalrenge O_O
2 gates for bisu.
woah is that a 14 core from chalrenge?
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Bisu has a probe in Chal's base, scouting around.
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wow 14 core, pylon-core-gateway wall.
bisu scouts it all with probe, as carefree has mentioned.
looks like chalrenge went core -> zeal -> pylon -> 2nd gate.
no range.
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my pvp knowledge is totally zero
but I'm expecting a proxy reaver from Chalrenge.
i know nothing though so don't listen to me. :<
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bisu expands to his back nat.
bisu forges... rathe rearly?
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Forge and no core from Bisu? A cannon as well.
This indeed a
bisu build
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no range still.... but 2nd goon has been made, scoutning probe dies.
hmmmmmm
this is one really odd buidl from chalrenge.
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wow, Bisu's really switching it up.
I don't know about this.
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Is Chalrenge going for some timing 4 gate goon attack?
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2 goons seesm to suggest like.... yea he's power gooning and delayign range....
or not wtf bisus's scouting probe came so he started air weapons or something then cancelled it again.
oh shit 4 gates lolol yea it's a timign attack against the nexus.
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This is a crazy build by chal! I guess on katrina the last thing Bisu will expect is a three gate 1 base timing push?
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Timing attack from Chalrenge, I presume.
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3 zeals, 3 goons thus far i think .
bisu with 1 cannon on his ramp.
core up.
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bisu sends a scouting zealot, killed by 3 goons from bisu.
range now spinning for chalrenge.
bisu warps 1 cannon at each nexus.
he's fucked he's so blind.
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4 zeals, 1 cannon, 2nd cannon now at bisu's ramp.
robotics starts, he's fucking paranoid.
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god this reminds me of rainbow vs pusan on longinus...
and rainbow vs anytime on ... longnius...
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not looking good for bisu.
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CHALRENGE MAKING HIS MOVE!!!
bis only has 2 mroe goons than before.
6 goons, and how many zeals is that, 8 goosn 6 zealots!! chalrenge massive army, RANGE DONE
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timing push > than that bs.
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oh god beautiful build! it's fukcing perfect timigna gainst bisu's build.
cannos utterly raped, massive probes pulled off, chalrnge coming in with more and more goons.
all of bisus's untis are dead, all his main probes are down, chalregne still ahs7 goons.
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haha bisu only has baout 5 probes at the nat, and like 7 at his main.
loses 2/4 of his gateways, and 9 goons vs 3 or w/e.
gg from bisu.
well fucking played chalrenge.
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this is so sad..
sorry bisu, days of your dt cuteness are over
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Rofl, poor mascot
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hahaha he gives the rooster to bunky
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you know, chalrenge is one of the few guys who high fives unawkwardsly.
lol wtf his ceremony, he gave something to the mascot hahahahah
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oh wow chal give the coq to the mascot man wtf with all these bm ceremony :\
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omggg no both protoss powerhouses both went down today
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Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop.
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T1 coach's shiny silver suit annoys me.
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lol chalrenge gives the stuffed animal to the skt mascot
atleast this one was funny
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chalrenge truly a baller after that performance.
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Man I have no idea how you can counter/read that build as Bisu
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i'd like to see chalrenge win something major so i can watch a 15 minute ceremony that isn't painfully awkward
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On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote: Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop.
His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp.
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Bisu shouldn't go so much greedy even in 12vs6 o'clock in my opinion.
Now all depends on the 2nd team match - go go Bul_T and Rumble.
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wow bad day to watch korean tv, i miss a show i wanna watch completely because my tvants scrweed up and now ogn doing this wtf
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On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote: Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop. His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp. ya, at least he should of left a probe outside chalrenge's base
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On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote: Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop. His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp. Obs wouldn't have helped imo but yeah, he should have definitely put a probe out a little bit to see it coming.
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On July 27 2008 16:57 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote: Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop. His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp. ya, at least he should of left a probe outside chalrenge's base If you didn't notice though, Chalrenge was checking every route possible with his goons to kill scouting.
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On July 27 2008 16:57 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote: Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop. His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp. Obs wouldn't have helped imo but yeah, he should have definitely put a probe out a little bit to see it coming. wasn't chalrenge sending units out one at a time kind of looking around? i saw a lot of single units on the minimap
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if he invested in cannons he shoulda went reaver before obs
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idk I would NOT place my money on T1 2v2's
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SK1 is in deep shit right now.
too late haji i already did, O WAIT. AGAINST THEM :D
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This is looking grim for SKT1
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On July 27 2008 16:58 traced wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:57 OneOther wrote:On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote: Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop. His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp. Obs wouldn't have helped imo but yeah, he should have definitely put a probe out a little bit to see it coming. wasn't chalrenge sending units out one at a time kind of looking around? i saw a lot of single units on the minimap yeah, he did. I guess I meant right outside of his own base, Idk. Wouldn't have made much of a difference
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beesuit shouldnt have sent in his initial 4 zeals/goons. i dont know if it wouldve saved him, but he definetly coulda had more units than he chose to fight with
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Bisu was not supposed to lose his set.
Chalrenge has every scouting route blocked though.
Bisu knew himself too well, being paranoid with obs and all. he already had so many cannons though.
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On July 27 2008 16:58 traced wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 16:57 OneOther wrote:On July 27 2008 16:55 PoP wrote:On July 27 2008 16:53 zgl wrote: Nothing Bisu could have done. Scouting probe denied and I think Bisu was preparing against fast drop. His obs tech was late and he should have sent more scouting probes to at least know an allin was coming before he was at his ramp. Obs wouldn't have helped imo but yeah, he should have definitely put a probe out a little bit to see it coming. wasn't chalrenge sending units out one at a time kind of looking around? i saw a lot of single units on the minimap
Yeah he was. the only thing that i think bisu could do was run a probe around the main route of chalrenge... but who would know to do that. But wait, if they were all covered than idk but thats why i dont progame.
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ZEUS/YELLOW 7 GAME WINSTREAK
no way SKT is pulling this out
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a couple interesting tidbits about that game (for more insight on what went on behind the scenes):
-in a pregame interview 2 days before, chalrenge mentioned that he had prepared a special strategy/build to beat bisu -before starting the game, the commentators mentioned that chalrenge was taking a long time to join, presumably to further the mind game advantage he already had. the longer he takes to join, the more that goes through bisu's head. -bisu's play was very conservative because of the two above statements. getting an early forge, making many many cannons rather than gateways, and furthermore making robo with obs tech instead of more gates. making cannons isn't bad. getting obs isn't bad. both together? very very bad.
basically everything combined equals a completely owned bisu, both in and out of the game. to quote the words of the MBC commentator: "lee seung hoon already won this game 2 days ago"
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Did the middle commentator get a haircut?
Thank you so much for the insights into that last game!
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fucking fuck chalrenge 4gate fucker u suck at protoss still fuck
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Melbourne5338 Posts
On July 27 2008 17:05 LosingID8 wrote: a couple interesting tidbits about that game (for more insight on what went on behind the scenes):
-in a pregame interview 2 days before, chalrenge mentioned that he had prepared a special strategy/build to beat bisu -before starting the game, the commentators mentioned that chalrenge was taking a long time to join, presumably to further the mind game advantage he already had. the longer he takes to join, the more that goes through bisu's head. -bisu's play was very conservative because of the two above statements. getting an early forge, making many many cannons rather than gateways, and furthermore making robo with obs tech instead of more gates. making cannons isn't bad. getting obs isn't bad. both together? very very bad.
basically everything combined equals a completely owned bisu, both in and out of the game.
why aren't you keeping me company on irc
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lol so many mad people in here.
still not nearly as many as yesterday.
Annnd, here- we-- GO!
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thedeadhaji
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meh I am happy for chalrenge's play. That was baller, clutch and pretty fucking brilliant.
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to hell with you guys, Doctor K and Rumble are winning
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On July 27 2008 17:09 thedeadhaji wrote: meh I am happy for chalrenge's play. That was baller, clutch and pretty fucking brilliant.
Amen. I do hope SKT takes the 2v2 game just to see Midas (hopefully) game.
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thedeadhaji
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2v2 on hannibal
SKT1 2 - 3 OGN
BulT - purple - 9 Rumble - oj - 6
Yarnc - brown - 3 Zeus - teal - 12
so the same races are close to each other, and they split the map horizontally.
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thedeadhaji
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fuck, discreing orange zerg and brown zerg is a nightmare esp their buildings.
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thedeadhaji
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both tosses double gate.
both zergs went 12 pool gas?
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thedeadhaji
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cant tell if htat was 12 pool gas or 9 pool gas from both.
both players hatch in main as well.
mmm fast lair for rumble.
zeus 3rd gate no gas bulT 2 gate and gas.
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thedeadhaji
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rumble with sunk at ramp, 1 zeal and lings on ramp as well.
zeus goes gas after 3rd gate, core is only marginally later than bulT, i have to think he's cut a few probes here adn there.
lairfor yanrc as well as spire are about 10 seconds later than rumble it seems.
bultt 3rd gate after core.
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hmm zeals attack rumble's ramp, followed by yarnc's lings, they break the ramp but fail to kil teh sunka nd remianing lings, and bulT has plenty of zeals nearby for reinf
oh shit 8 lings come into bulT's main only 2 goosn there + probes!!
ruble loses a OL to zeus's goons near bult's main.
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YES YES YES YES SKT1 has this
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thedeadhaji
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lings and zeals comign into yarnc's main, yarnc only with like 4 lings.
ruble with like 6 mutas, yarnc made only scourge, yarnc running drones.
goons clash in middle and rumble's mutas come as well, but mutas retreat zeus left with 2 goons.
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WTF HE DIDNT KILL THE POOL WTF
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And Zeus loses his goons. SKt's 2v2 should take tihs.
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thedeadhaji
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yarnc makes 2 mutas after scourge.
tryign to kill zeals but zeals get the sire anwaysy. 1 muta left for yarnc after scourge from rumble.
zeus with 6 goons, microing against same # from bulT, rumbles' mutas are there and it's mkaing a diff, zeus being forced back to his main, yarnc has ike nothing only 7 drones and no spire.
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thedeadhaji
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yarnc's 1 muta was killing probes in bulT's main but dies to goons.
rumble murders yarnc's drones
andddd zeus is being mauled by bulT
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On July 27 2008 17:17 PoP wrote: WTF HE DIDNT KILL THE POOL WTF
Wow...nice name WOW O_O
gogo SKT!!!!!!!!
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Newb Question.... Why is Samsung in the building?
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thedeadhaji
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who woulda thunk T1 woudl rape 2v2 so badly hahaha
muta socurge no in zeus's main. why sint he leaving lawl.
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Awesome. Bul T/Rumble pull through for SKT in the end. SKT saved by their 2v2 team ... such an odd thing to say
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thedeadhaji
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anddd gg from OGN
3:3!!
ace~~
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cause the winner is gona fight samsung
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pretty much gg, ace match gogo!
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Wow so many upsets today!
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Ace match: most definitely going to be midas versus leta
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skt decides to send oov out for ace in shocka
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Go Go Go SKT1 !!!111!!!!11
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On July 27 2008 17:20 traced wrote: skt decides to send oov out for ace in shocka That would be the pimpest play ever. Oov better have a superman costume under that suit.
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Midas/Lux, or Midas/Leta. Has to be one of those. Has to be.
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you call those upsets? So far I'm 4-2 in this match.
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man i can't believe ogn may get to the finals having never used luxury
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I SO CALLED THAT 2V2 SET!!!!!!!!
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On July 27 2008 17:21 zgl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 17:20 traced wrote: skt decides to send oov out for ace in shocka That would be the pimpest play ever. Oov better have a superman costume under that suit.
That would be so sick. wow. do it.
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BELIEVE! This series was full of surprises and innovativeness. Let's see some good ace action.
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All I can say is: Well done, Bul_T & Rumble .
Go go ACE win SKT1 !!!
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thedeadhaji
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Dr. K is such a bad nickname wtf.
That comic ended liek 10 years ago.
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thedeadhaji
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For Ace 70% lux, 20% leta, 5% yarnc 5% gogo
99% Midas 1% GORush
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There's nobody better than Midas to be sent out for SKT1. OGN is probably going to send out shine or leta. in this case, skt1 might as well send out canata
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why in the blue hell would they send out shine? are you mad?
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because he beat midas before
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I'd pretty much have to move to korea, learn korean, and kiss the ground skt1 walks on if they put oov out as their ace ;p
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With Canata there's always the chance he'd be up against Luxury which is basically autolose.
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it wont be midas... bisu or best or even rumble.........
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Here's to hoping Midas is sent out, wins and then proceeds to take the chicken from bunky and give it to either Chalrenge or the OGN coach.
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bisu vs luxury!! please dontmess it up , bisu.
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ACE MATCH!!!
SKT T1 - BISU OGN SPARKYZ - Luxury
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holy mothre fuckin awesomeness! bisu vs luxury
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Luxury is about to get face stomped I think. GO OGN DO IT
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Oh lawd, Bisu is the ace. On one hand I could be very happy with this result .. on the other hand if he loses I'll be shattered. : (
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Wonder if bisu was practicing for an ace at all =/
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Come on Bisu, you can do it! Only zerg, only zerg!
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thedeadhaji
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ahh bisu!
not a bad choice man, not a bad choice at all!!
luxuy your zvp sucks ahahah
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Bisu Luxury did I fall asleep and am dreaming?
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bisu plz dont choke as usual >_<
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Why the hell didn't OGN send out Leta?
He would rickroll Bisu right now.
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has bisu won an ace match this season except for vs estro
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This could be epic. I hope we see vintage Bisu PvZ.
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Bisu is gonna show us some sexy pvz
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thedeadhaji
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if he gets hydra broken i will be a sad panda
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this is so wrong.
i cannot believe they sent out lux instead of leta.
they must have thought they would send out a terran like midas BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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thedeadhaji
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hopefully lux didnt practice something gay like a sunk push / proxy hatch TT
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thedeadhaji
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SKT1 knew Luxury would be chosen so they sent there zerg snipe
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On July 27 2008 17:32 ilbh wrote: is it luxury or yellow ?
it's definately lux
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Please don't BO lose again. I'm so nervous
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omg epic ace match. I almost dropped my cellphone. wtf.. EPICEPICEPIC
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Best, Bisu, or Midas
vs
Luxury, Leta, Yarnc, Chalrenge, Shine
*edit* Nice, Bisu vs Luxury. Go Bisu!
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10387 Posts
I doubt lux will play a straight up game
probably another all-in build/cheese -.-
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lux definitely has some all in planned
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zvp has seem so imbalanced recently it makes me worry
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So much pressure for both of these players....
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bisu is gona get 5 pooled again
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not that epic.. lux's zvp is fucking brutual.
-_- I'm mad. I'm going to lose it because the coach made a big mistake.
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On July 27 2008 17:37 Showtime! wrote: not that epic.. lux's zvp is fucking brutual.
-_- I'm mad. I'm going to lose it because the coach made a big mistake.
Who on SKT is better equipped vZ?
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Agreed. They really should have sent out midas, especially on a map that is t > z so heavily.
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I WAKE UP KNOW, GO FUCKING KIM TAEK YONG!
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I would have said Midas on that map would have been fine. Colosseum is pretty T>Z after all, while iirc it's Z>P.
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i think he meant luxury's zvp was brutal bad
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wrong question
who do you think I'm cheering for?
regardless of t or p
OGN should have 2x a player too.
That player's name is Leta.
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On July 27 2008 17:37 Showtime! wrote: not that epic.. lux's zvp is fucking brutual.
-_- I'm mad. I'm going to lose it because the coach made a big mistake.
Except lux was probably anticipating the same thing and had practicing against terran.
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bisu lost to jaedong in colosseum.. hopefully he learned something from it
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a crack of thunder outside. omen?
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thedeadhaji
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colloseum
luxury at 1 bisu at 5
hmm, close distances~
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I'm surprised by the choice to send Bisu over Midas. One would expect Midas to have better odds vs Luxury on Colosseum. And even if OGN threw in a T or P Midas should have a good chance.
I'm guessing the coach looked at Midas' mental state just before the ace match and decided right then that Bisu would be better.
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thedeadhaji
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ol going the correct way.
pylon at choike.
probe goes the right way and starts harassin.
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thedeadhaji
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On July 27 2008 17:42 Polemarch wrote: I'm surprised by the choice to send Bisu over Midas. One would expect Midas to have better odds vs Luxury on Colosseum. And even if OGN threw in a T or P Midas should have a good chance.
I'm guessing the coach looked at Midas' mental state just before the ace match and decided right then that Bisu would be better.
I think it's b/c of who ogn can send. ogn could send a T or a Z. Rather than gamble with TvT I think they chose the pvt advantage on colloseum, along with bisu's stron pvz.
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thedeadhaji
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14 nexus for bisu. 12 hatch at 3rd base for lux.
bisu pylons lux's nat to delay hatch, then cancels as the drone leaves etc.
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no cheese/all-in...?
I am surprised :O
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Bisu PvZ is weak now.... ppl figured out how to beat him PvZ style... i hope Bisu wins this so SKT1 goes to final :D
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thedeadhaji
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5 probes maynard.
12 hatch 11 pool and... prolly 13 hatch at his nat for lux. so 3 bases.
core already goign up for bisu, with 1 cannon at choke.
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thedeadhaji
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hm lux sacs an ol to see what bisu's up to.
den goign up for lux.
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Oh god I just wake up for this ace match and it's Bisu, my favourite player. Cmon Bisu, take SKT to the finalsssssss
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thedeadhaji
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sair out robo just finished.
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luxury is like: omg hes doing the bisu build!
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thedeadhaji
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bisus' sair sees the den, lair, drone count at all 3 bases.
ligns moving out :O
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thedeadhaji
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bisu chooses to stay on 1 stargate, 1 robotics.
2nd sair out.
ligns trap a goon and murder it asap as bisu moved out with 3 zealots and 1 goon.
2 lings get into bisu's main, see the robo, support bay, etc.
2 lings left, kills 1 probe thus far.
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On July 27 2008 17:44 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 17:42 Polemarch wrote: I'm surprised by the choice to send Bisu over Midas. One would expect Midas to have better odds vs Luxury on Colosseum. And even if OGN threw in a T or P Midas should have a good chance.
I'm guessing the coach looked at Midas' mental state just before the ace match and decided right then that Bisu would be better. I think it's b/c of who ogn can send. ogn could send a T or a Z. Rather than gamble with TvT I think they chose the pvt advantage on colloseum, along with bisu's stron pvz.
pvt looks pretty balanced on this map, actually 22:20 in favour of T, according to TLPD.
uh oh, bisu's micro is looking flawed vs those lings.
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thedeadhaji
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lux just gives up on the lings after gaining the intel he wanted.
lux morphs sunks at his 2nd and 3rd bases.
bisu with about 5 sairs.
+1 is spinning, shuttle is out.
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thedeadhaji
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oh hey he's getting both +1 attacks, ground and air.
siars just murdered a couple scourge. poor scourge.
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I don't like this. I don't like this at all for lux. TT
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thedeadhaji
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ah, typical opening, getting 2 reavers then quickly switching to ground. about 7 sairs.
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thedeadhaji
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can bisu do dmg??
wooowwww bisu drops onthe SIDE of the 3rd base of lux instead of behind the mindreal line, and gets 3 drones.
Bisu having really close calls with his shuttle though, almost lost it twice now to hydras, yellow hp.
bisu buidling pylon at hsi 3rd.
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thedeadhaji
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speed kicks in for zeals.
bisu with about 8 zeals 1 goon.
obs goes into lux's 2nd, makes sure coast is clear and drops reaver, gets 1 drone.
12 zeals and 1 drone go into min only of lux, kill it, army goes up the ramp into 3rd, reaver dropped, sunk goes down, drones run.
zeals stay in 3rd and deal with hydras that come up, shuttle moves into main. OHH SHUTTLE SNIPED>
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thedeadhaji
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HYDRAS RUSHING DOWN TEH MAPPPPPP
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thedeadhaji
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bisu warping 3 cannons at his 3rd.
2 ols with speed as well.
about 24 hydras!!!!!! BISU HAS NOTHIGN BUT CANNONS
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bisu gets ONE reaver, but lux moves up to the 3rd base and makes the scarabs bug out.
bisu loses his 3rd nexus.
OLs in lux's main protected by 2 spores and rallied hydras.
WOW BISU GREAT DEFENSE WITH ONE GROUND REAVER HOLYS HIT
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fucken PvZ. Lose the damn shuttle and it's over.
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Lux lost a lot of hydras there.
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thedeadhaji
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lux lost enough ydras to the one reaver , like 6-8 hydras via 3 shots, that he cant bust bisu right now.
ah bisu just lost another 2 sairs to hydras as he flew over them.
bisu 5 gates, 2 bases.
lux on 4 bases again as he has his min only again.
HIVE COMING
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It is really looking like Bisu vs Savior @ Katrina. T_T
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thedeadhaji
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7 lurkers morphign at the min only.
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this is madness.. NO THIS IS SPARTA!
lux hanging in there.
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thedeadhaji
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*6 lurkers.
bisu takign hsi 3rd again, nexus, a handful of cannons, 3 dts, 6 zeals, 2 reavers.
luxury comes in from the back ramp, focuses down on the nexus with ling hydra and forces a cancel.
lurkers peek at the choke bu tback off.
luxury taking the 11 nat.
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thedeadhaji
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reavers in position for luxury as they come up teh back ramp again, reavers targetting perfectsly and shuttle saves them as they get hit by lurker spines, totally failed attack from lux, first major blunder fro lux.
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thedeadhaji
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On July 27 2008 17:56 Mastermind wrote: Bisu is back in the game
yea he's getting his way back
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man, lux losing units right and left come onnnnnnn don't throw them awwwwaaaaay
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Bisu fucked up. On the first zealot/reaver attack he left like half the zealots below the ramp :[
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thedeadhaji
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2 zeals 2 hts loaded into shuttle now!
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wow amazing defense by bisu! losing the first shuttle with 2 reavers was a huge setback, but looks like he's back in this
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thedeadhaji
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bisu goes straight to lux's exposed nat, kilsl 3-4 drones there.
he has liek 4 archons back at his choke.
dts slashing away getting some free hits now and then.
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shuttle went to 11 nat and saw it, but he goes around to 3rd base of lux, drops 2 ht and storms the min only
GREAT DODGE BY LUX only 2 drones die
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thedeadhaji
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i think lux has crax by now, he's on 5 bases.
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I don't still see Bisu winning
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Thanks for the screenshots, highways.
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thedeadhaji
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bisu taking his min only.
defiler with plage already.
lux with 7 lurkers b/w their bases.
bisu still active with his sairs, scouting around.
massive plague from lux on both reavers and about 4 goons as bisu goes around to the center and goes north towards the min only.
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thedeadhaji
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lux flanks from behind and front but PERFECT storms on the lurkers, and reavers aiming well on teh lurkers in front.
a crackling counter from lux, min only goes down.
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great plagues by lux.............
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bisu using reavers so well, pressuring the 3rd right now,
LUX great flanking with crax, like 3 groups of crax, takes down bisu's entire army.
ultra cavern's been up for a while now.
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Not good. Bisu loses his army and Lux has Ultras now.
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thedeadhaji
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ultras now out!
bisu has like no army it seems.
lux takes the 11 main, sunks going up there.
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LUX is doing it! HE's DOING IT!
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sweet storms from bisu tho
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thedeadhaji
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ultra ling defiler scourge hydras ol army from lux, lol they attack into bisus' warpign in min only, 3 stomrs absolutely wipe out like 20 lings but 4 ultras live and bisu has no actual army so ultras have free reign.
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It's over.
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I told you Bisu was a bad idea.
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United States10774 Posts
BISU U HAD A GOOD CHANCE WITH UR 1+ ZEALOTS/REAVERS BUT NO U DECIDE TO DIVIDE UP UR TROOPS AND THEN LOSE UR SHUTTLE
WHY
WHY
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thedeadhaji
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2 lurkers finishing off bisu's mineral only.
plague to see dts.
gg from bisu!
OGN's "miracle" run continues!!
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Should have sent midas >_<
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thedeadhaji
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lux getting thrown inthe air.
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god is a superstition. there is only darkness. there is only the void
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Fuck Ultras
BS
Fuck Luxury, going quick ultras for an easy win.
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$500 richer in the bank :D
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Bisu
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Time to all head over to the GOM thread
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Send Bisu to the C team ffs.
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Fuck fucking imba pvz.. fuck-fuck-fuckkkkkk
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NOOOOO SKT1 Lost T.T Why Bisu WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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lol, Samsung will have a field day with these guys. Way to go SKT1.
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it was gg when he lost the two reavers, unfortunately. i can see why the map is tough pvz. really difficult to harass.
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damn who will be the protoss to lead the fight against the zergs now?
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lol at all of you predicting all-in/cheese from Lux.
Epic playoff. omg.
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Well, at least we might see epic FBH vs Go.go
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Yeah, thank god I didn't auto vote SKT
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They made the wrong call sending out Bisu. Midas would have given them a much better chance.
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thedeadhaji
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god i hate you OGN coach.
I dont even really mind OGN winning other than finals being a tad less glamorous, but damn I hate you.
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oh well try again next season! and remember not to send bisu as ace ever again!
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Fuck yeah luxury, you're the man ^_^b
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poor bisu! damn it. damn the skt1 coach is retarded
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i blame mind. god i fucking hate mind
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Also fuck all those "smarts" that argue pvz is balanced.
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Arg. I should just stop putting my hopes in Bisu. So depressing.
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Proud to be 1 of 139 :D
Upset week.
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On July 27 2008 18:08 zgl wrote: Well, at least we might see epic FBH vs Go.go
The only epic thing about that matchup would be the ceremony afterwards.
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lol at luxury devouring three ultras just to plague the lone dt and killed it with his last ultra.
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Kentor
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On July 27 2008 18:08 zgl wrote: Well, at least we might see epic FBH vs Go.go haha FBH better not choke this time
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On July 27 2008 18:11 traced wrote: i blame mind. god i fucking hate mind LOL.
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Protoss has lost the last 11 matches of PvZ... :\
14 if you include Jaedong vs Shuttle.
Sigh.
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is awesome32274 Posts
This is definitely a season of let downs.
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On July 27 2008 18:23 IntoTheWow wrote: This is definitely a season of let downs.
Amen.
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On July 27 2008 18:23 IntoTheWow wrote: This is definitely a season of let downs.
There has not been a single match in the recent past where the team/player I was rooting for actually won.
Let's hope Samsung Khan can change that.
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On July 27 2008 18:08 semioldguy wrote: They made the wrong call sending out Bisu. Midas would have given them a much better chance. How? By TvsZ ing Luxury???
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Absolutely - it is colosseum after all.
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Way to go Luxury, love you man! :D
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ogn's coaching staff is brilliant, absolutely brilliant. they've done so much with a group of no-namers. give them an award asap.
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bisu why ?! you are causing me pain again and again, you can fuck your fans but dont fuck SKT
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On July 27 2008 19:45 caelym wrote: ogn's coaching staff is brilliant, absolutely brilliant. they've done so much with a group of no-namers. give them an award asap.
i wouldn't call leta a no-namer but he has stepped it up so hugely during these playoffs
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On July 27 2008 18:11 zimz wrote: poor bisu! damn it. damn the skt1 coach is retarded
did you just call oov retarded?
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Nooo!!!!!! I LB'ed for SKT1 and STX..T_T
But Damn man, I haven't reviewed the LPs yet and don't tell me OGN proxied to victory, AGAIN.
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he means the manager, who has the final say on who to send out.
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On July 27 2008 20:32 dinmsab wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 18:11 zimz wrote: poor bisu! damn it. damn the skt1 coach is retarded did you just call oov retarded? no its the guy with little hair. but yea, so much for sending Bisu for redemption. Shuoldve sent BeSt! who had a 0-2 -> 3-2 comeback against Luxary.
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wtf bisu? :/ gg OGN i guess. Canata still winning his TvTs!
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YES!!!!!!!!! I KNEW YOU WOULD DO IT CHALRENGE! GOOOO OGN!!!!!! WOOT WOOT WOOT WOOT
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On July 27 2008 18:08 Vasoline73 wrote:Yeah, thank god I didn't auto vote SKT
Proud to be one of the 134 ^^
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wow bisu what a letdown -_-;;
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SKT were probably expecting a protoss (Chalrenge) or terran so Bisu was a good choice. OGN guess Protoss, most likely Best, so they use a zerg. Luxury is decent zvt as well. Zerg was unexpected by SKT.
Interesting mind games. OGN won the guessing game.
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On July 27 2008 18:04 imDerek wrote: ...
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Eventually OGN's skill & luck will run out. They will not win proleague.
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People said that last week too, we'll see
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ROFL.... lol, the general prediction was Bisu + Best = PWnage and SK will wipe the floor. Instead, both lost and Bisu lost the ace (why did they NOT send Midas???). Sad Sad day for SK, anyhow, i don't think OGN's skill won, The SK superpair just choked.
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Bisu hasn't been doing much this whole season, how is he part of the superpair... It was BeSt Canata and Midas who get SKT this far
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SKT wont sent Bisu for no reason in the ace match. Maybe he is doing pretty well in the internal tournaments and rankings of SKT. And why do you ppl think oov and kingdom have the word in the coaching staff ? Its clear that they are just icons, only the fact that they are there should lift the moral of the team. Oov and Kingdom are not the real coaches, they are wearing suites to hype the fans...
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Oov and Kingdom may or may not help train the players, but their decision on who to send out is highly valued. Starleague titles count for something at least.
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As a coach they help the players with their games as well, help them as moral boost, give them confidence, etc. Its the manager of the team though who decides who is playing and who isnt =/. It sucks because SKT is the team i wanted to see back in the Finals =(
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Does anyone know how the decisions are reached? Maybe Bisu wanted to play and convinced the coaches to give him a chance for redemption. Midas did look out of it. I'm sure SKT will be back in the playoffs next season (especially with the 2 extra spots). As long as the team builds on this season and improves next season, I will be happy. BeSt needs more experience in big games, Bisu needs to step up or just retire while he is on top his win percentage is >50% -_-; Every Zerg and his grandmother knows how to counter the Bisu build now.
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Um, Bisu didn't use the typical Corsair/DT build and are you saying Leta has more experience than BeSt in the clutch? lol
This goes to show you all just how competitive the PL is now.
Going 5 for 2 isn't a bad assessment by any stretch. I'm glad we got to see all the matchups. I'm pretty happy with the outcome.
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On July 28 2008 00:28 Showtime! wrote: Um, Bisu didn't use the typical Corsair/DT build and are you saying Leta has more experience than BeSt in the clutch? lol
My comments weren't directed specifically at today's match. Didn't intend to confuse you.
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This was like the season of the underdogs
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Im watching the series now, MBC Game arena? Thought they were still in OGN Stadium? But the MBC arena is better w/ all OGN music and graphics.
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On July 28 2008 01:43 TW WiNNinG 54 wrote: Im watching the series now, MBC Game arena? Thought they were still in OGN Stadium? But the MBC arena is better w/ all OGN music and graphics. its MBC stadium, but OGN cast.
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what the freak man, i know that if i pick OGN in the finals they're gonna lose but if i pick khan in the finals OGN will win
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well, with that edit.
YUP
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They were casting it on both channels BTW.
Cor's stream was MBC from what it appeared and the Daum cast was OGN.
I had both on.
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if OGN wins this proleague... well...
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On July 27 2008 18:03 HaXxorIzed wrote: I told you Bisu was a bad idea.
I thought all you wrote was
On July 27 2008 17:30 HaXxorIzed wrote: Oh lawd, Bisu is the ace. On one hand I could be very happy with this result .. on the other hand if he loses I'll be shattered. : (
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On July 25 2008 20:37 raga4ka wrote: Go .go is very strong in the TvT MU so is Canata , if Leta can pull an upset again OGN will most likely take it home . The lineups seems to be a coin toss and is just what i will do when voteing in LB .
Edit:damn OGN again i hope they win for the sake of my LB .
1 more for the coin 
I'm sticking with coins they seem to be better then hard to hell analysis of the 2 two teams and it is easier when i don't like both of the teams .
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On July 27 2008 22:01 Tinithor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2008 18:08 Vasoline73 wrote:Yeah, thank god I didn't auto vote SKT Proud to be one of the 134 ^^
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I guess SKT T1 tried to snipe Luxury in the ace match. Not only did they fail at sniping, they also gave up playing Midas for it.
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On July 27 2008 23:52 Ra.Xor.2 wrote: ROFL.... lol, the general prediction was Bisu + Best = PWnage and SK will wipe the floor. Instead, both lost and Bisu lost the ace (why did they NOT send Midas???). Sad Sad day for SK, anyhow, i don't think OGN's skill won, The SK superpair just choked.
I'm always laughing hard when someone sais Winner didn't win , it is just that loser played bad . It is so fucking stupid .
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Hey guys, remember when Bisu was good?
Those were good days. Good days.
Incidentally, I picked OGN ^______________________^
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dude ogn really knows how to pull things outta their ass,,,, i was at least counting on best or bisu to win at least 1 game...
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picking bisu was a hoe move
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what the hell happened to Bisu?
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Ongamenet must have some conspiracy to have OGN win lol. No I picked OGN, but Samsung is gona be tough, Firebathero must have a killer ceremony lol.
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Firebathero should have a nice time in the finals. There's not a single protoss for him to worry about (OGN wouldn't risk sniping with Chalrenge considering all the maps FBH can play on, and they need him for Katrina vs Stork).
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I was kinda disappointed by the quality of the games.Especially BeSt vs Leta that could have been awesome. Now I only hope Khan gets stomped in the final. Especially if FBH looses the last game, like he did last Proleague. The icing on the cake would be seeing him loose to a subpar guy like Chalrenge and cry for a few minutes. And btw, OGN don't need Chal for Katrina. They can snipe Stork either with Leta who can pull a Flash on this map, or with a decent Zerg (Luxury would crush him wihtout a doubt).
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It's sok Khan's also a cowardly team of snipers so OGN will meet their match.
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AHhh god damn it chalrenge you and ur damn 4 gate all-in oh shit I'm too big of an ass to give that shit to the fans let's go humiliate skt some more Fucking shitlings storrm them all o wait 20000 more coming. Good thing I don't understand pvz at all cuz it still it looks pretty gay
First that bullshit in the msl now this. What a let down of a final. Don't even know which team to hate more, maybe go.go'll trip on a wire and fall on Chal and they both get electrocuted.
Damn it t1.
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Its funny how so many people are devastated by this week's events and yet i am quite pleased.
Voted for both ForGG and OGN ^^
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I don't think it's funny at all. I'm talking about the MSL Finals, I don't care about proleague anymore, ever Lecaf dropped to 6th in the last week.
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On July 28 2008 07:08 thunk wrote: It's sok Khan's also a cowardly team of snipers so OGN will meet their match.
By cowardly, do you mean strategic and intelligent?
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Luxury just told Leta:
"You're good, but I'm still the ACE of this team."
I'm so ridiculously pleased.
I like how people's opinion of Leta has gone from a newbie to a monster in two pretty similar (but incredibly impressing) games. The game versus best was the first time I was even a bit worried that he might loose for his last seven games or so (unlike you who all predicted he was going to loose), but he prooved that he knows how to tango with (read rape) all kinds of protoss. I guess it's either jangbi or stork next.
Seems like Practice has been practicing his ZvP...
He looked almost as sharp as jaedong does, too bad he's a few weeks late...
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I should have saved some of the chatlogs about why Midas had to be the ace discussion from IRC, damn.
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Actually, now that I think about it, Bisu was the "best" choice for them to choose as Ace. They already knew that Luxury was going to be ace. Best wouldn't be a good choice as Ace. His vZ isn't that good.. plus, there is a question about his current form (might still be shaken up from the OSL beatdown. Hence, the suicide arbiters -.-) Midas, not the best choice either. Luxury would eat him alive (just like he ate Flash). Perhaps Midas may have been able to pull through, but who knows? Canata, no idea how his vZ is, but it can't be that great.
I don't think it was a stupid decision from the coaches. They chose their best vZ as Ace and hoped he would pull through. Bisu showed great defense when he was down, but losing that shuttle lost the game for him..
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T1 doesn't learn their lessons. Bisu has been a disappointment all season long, and he lost his first game against OGN here...why not play him again?
How much does it suck to be Midas, who carried this team through the regular season and then didn't even make an APPEARANCE in their only postseason match? Damn.
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I wonder how bisu feels, totally let the team down.
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If you think about it, Bisu alone took SKT halfway to losing!!
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BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW bisu 0-2
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wait...if yarnc/zeus lost, does that mean air force ace now has the highest ranked 2v2 pair (incl postseason)? oh nvm tied i think + Show Spoiler +bc of 1st playoff versus stx
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and bul_T rumble were owning it up at the top for a while, not sure what people mean by skt not having a good 2v2
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People just assumed T1 had a bad 2v2 from their history. It is true that their 2v2 has been performing quite well this season. Yarnc/Zeus won their last game against STX, so their loss this time only dropped them back down to tying with fOru/Clon.
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wtf is this.. i guessed the right team but i got almost every match incorrect
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On July 28 2008 12:45 Tinithor wrote: I wonder how bisu feels, totally let the team down. The first thing that came into my head was a comparison to Derek "GiDP" Jeter, who pretty much single-handedly killed the 2007 Yankees season. Unlike Jeter, though, I don't think Bisu has an easy scapegoat teammate-who-played-not-great-but-still-better-than-him-by-any-objective-measure to pawn this failure off on (Unless the Korean StarCraft media is more similar to the New York baseball media than I realize).
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