EPThis TvT improvement, on the other hand, caught me by surprise. I thought he'd always suck at it
[MSL Finals] Jaedong vs fOrGG - Page 56
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kramus
United States1259 Posts
his TvT improvement, on the other hand, caught me by surprise. I thought he'd always suck at it | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
also, note that neither player did any mind games really. i had hoped (but not expected) jaedong would do some sneaky or unexpected play to catch his opponent off guard, but nada really, except for the start of game 1. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 27 2008 07:44 kramus wrote: forGG has had strong TvZ for a while, he just hasn't played many this season. I don't know why people are that surprised here. He still owned the best ZvT player 3-0 easily, I'd say that's pretty surprising. Anyway it really showed how these guys are on the same team, Jaedong anticipated those dropships so incredibly well, and forgg just knew exactly when Jaedong tried to ambush him. Still really disappointed, very skilled display but just way too one sided, I just want to see some great games, especially TvZ has been lacking that lately. | ||
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kramus
United States1259 Posts
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In)Spire
United States1323 Posts
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Darkmole
United States900 Posts
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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NotJumperer
United States1371 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 27 2008 08:18 In)Spire wrote: I hope this doesn't end up the same way Savior and Bisu did.... Guess we'll find out soon enough, he did make it to the finals of the GOMTV tournament. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 27 2008 08:34 Jumperer wrote: this proved that ZvT is imbalanced. Terran doesn't have to do anything to gain an edge over the zerg. defend and tech to 3-3 marine medic vessels and win. No it just proves how little you know of playing terran. If you honestly think that's all what forgg did you're crazy. Seriously, go on iccup and defend and tech to 3-3 marine medic every game and watch how you're overrun before you even have a single vessel. You have no idea how hard TvZ is lol, forgg makes it look simple but he played like a god. Jaedong isn't unbeatable, it doesn't take some kind of super special strategy to beat him, forgg just played better today because he knew Jaedong so extremely well. | ||
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
On July 27 2008 08:34 Jumperer wrote: this proved that ZvT is imbalanced. Terran doesn't have to do anything to gain an edge over the zerg. defend and tech to 3-3 marine medic vessels and win. more like macro and push out with more units than your opponent can even imagine actually really it was just great play all around from forGG; preparation, defense, timing, MACRO, even some good micro moments... people who have watched/kept up with forGG in the past (even for a bit) have known that the day forGG figured out how to use his massive blobs of units with any kind of finesse, he'd be really dangerous... and this MSL has pretty much proven that. It's not like Jaedong sucked it up or couldn't compete or was doomed from the start when he had to face a Terran player. Jaedong's weird decision to sunken rush against forGG just shows how the dynamics between teammates can throw people off the game we're used to seeing them play... though forGG's performance showed how that kind of insider knowledge can be a huge help if you prepare for it the right way. For all the people whining about TvZ imba, how many Terrans had beaten Jaedong in a Bo5 series up until this point? | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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Horangi
Hong Kong226 Posts
i voted on the right one :D | ||
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riotjune
United States3393 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
On July 27 2008 08:39 MCMcEmcee wrote: more like macro and push out with more units than your opponent can even imagine actually really it was just great play all around from forGG; preparation, defense, timing, MACRO, even some good micro moments... people who have watched/kept up with forGG in the past (even for a bit) have known that the day forGG figured out how to use his massive blobs of units with any kind of finesse, he'd be really dangerous... and this MSL has pretty much proven that. It's not like Jaedong sucked it up or couldn't compete or was doomed from the start when he had to face a Terran player. Jaedong's weird decision to sunken rush against forGG just shows how the dynamics between teammates can throw people off the game we're used to seeing them play... though forGG's performance showed how that kind of insider knowledge can be a huge help if you prepare for it the right way. For all the people whining about TvZ imba, how many Terrans had beaten Jaedong in a Bo5 series up until this point? TVZ imbaness is not the point here i guess. ForGG was magnificent. Still, i do think T > Z : Z is not as forgiving as T. You can't sit. You can't turtle. They are not cost efficient unless constant micro care. And while you give this said care, you also have to expand and macro like mad. That being said, forGG's performance here was simply amazing. I mean, he even beat JD in a macro game... | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
Game 1 was close, the fact that Jaedong got 4 gas was scary. It might had been ForGG's drop which took down Jaedong's evolution chambers that did the most damage. The results that ForGG won the finals wasn't too unexpected. Terran is usually favored and this map pool helps even more. | ||
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ReapersSorrows
China40 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
That will produce some epic fucking games if it ever happens. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On July 27 2008 09:53 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I can't wait for fOrGG vs BeSt. That will produce some epic fucking games if it ever happens. best will crush forgg. yes, his pvz sucks ass, but he will own this newbie terran! | ||
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