EPT[MSL Finals] Jaedong vs fOrGG - Page 54
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On July 26 2008 18:56 EvilTeletubby wrote: I'm proud to be 1 of 109! As am I. I really don't see why so many people doubted fOrGG so much, it was obvious after his raping of FlaSh that he was a complete beast. | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
Anyway. ForGG, although he has recently beat all the big names, still has to prove if he really belongs to the top or if he was just lucky this one time. He wouldn't be the first to win a starleague once and afterwards fade into irrelevance again. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On July 27 2008 00:15 Descent wrote: Oh, whoa~ Not particularly a JD fan, but seeing that 0-3 is...a bit shocking. =S I voted for Jaedong in liquibet, too. Hmm, any recommended games? x3 ? Game 1 was definitely the best. | ||
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Ozarugold
2716 Posts
Anyways, congrats on ForGG's part. Those were some awesome games. | ||
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sillyboy_tomato
United States157 Posts
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ZergZoul
Mexico408 Posts
On July 27 2008 01:41 0xDEADBEEF wrote: I expected that Jaedong will have a hard time, but I still expected him to win 3-2, not lose 0-3... Anyway. ForGG, although he has recently beat all the big names, still has to prove if he really belongs to the top or if he was just lucky this one time. He wouldn't be the first to win a starleague once and afterwards fade into irrelevance again. Couf Casy Couf | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
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ZergZoul
Mexico408 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
However, the one major thing I noticed about JD is that his defiler play wasn't up to his usual standards (e.g. compared to the period when JD was on a 14-0 ZvT streak). In that massive ultraling vs Terran ball battle in the middle of the map, JD only used one defiler, so there was no plague usage and the swarm didn't even provide cover for the ultras. If he had put down a few more swarms, he could've easily overrun the tank line and turned that battle around or at least came out even. Same thing happened again a bit later at JD's min-only... not the best swarm placement, but by that point the game was already firmly in ForGG hands. Again, no one else noticed that was 0 plague usage in the entire series? Poor defiler play is what really lost JD the 1st game IMO. Compare that to JD or Savior (or even GGPlay during his OSL run) in their prime (remember Savior vs. Iris game 3). | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
And I voted for him. :0 | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
On July 27 2008 02:43 teamsolid wrote: Just saw the first game. ForGG macroed like a fucking beast and JD played pretty well too with some excellent scourge control. However, the one major thing I noticed about JD is that his defiler play wasn't up to his usual standards (e.g. compared to the period when JD was on a 14-0 ZvT streak). In that massive ultraling vs Terran ball battle in the middle of the map, JD only used one defiler, so there was no plague usage and the swarm didn't even provide cover for the ultras. If he had put down a few more swarms, he could've easily overrun the tank line and turned that battle around or at least came out even. Same thing happened again a bit later at JD's min-only... not the best swarm placement, but by that point the game was already firmly in ForGG hands. Again, no one else noticed that was 0 plague usage in the entire series? Poor defiler play is what really lost JD the 1st game IMO. Compare that to JD or Savior (or even GGPlay during his OSL run) in their prime (remember Savior vs. Iris game 3). You're forgetting that in game 1 Jaedong started off with a 9 pool and a failed offensive sunken, then he lost spire and evo chambers to drop. He was behind the whole game, that's why the defilers were late. Game 2 ended too quickly for defilers, and game three was just a beastly display of unit production by Forgg and Jaedong's defilers never had a chance to be effective. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On July 26 2008 23:53 WhatisProtoss wrote: I think number one and three are the biggest ones. People are trying to see WHY you won the league, and seeing if you have anything they can steal. Is two really a large problem? How much do they celebrate after they win a league?What. The. Fuck. "He won flash by reading his play and countering it hard." Don't you beat anybody by reading their plays and countering it? There are many reasons why you lose a lot after you win a big tournament: (1) You are happy with your win and lose focus. (2) You celebrate a lot and lose practice time. (3) Everyone is analyzing your style and figuring out how to beat you. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
Not sure you are joking or not, but ForGG beat the top players from all 3 races, Kal (P), Flash (T), and Jaedong (Z) | ||
Sigrun
United States1654 Posts
On July 27 2008 02:41 Warrior Madness wrote: Back to the drawing board for the swarm.  | ||
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
consequently, 8 pts! :D ![[image loading]](http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8859/57497528th5.jpg) | ||
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
Oh well, Forgg is interesting. His play is so unspectacular yet he wins. Reminds me of OOv. Just that style of Terran where every battle they are prepared correctly with units in the right positions to make it like they are defending. Combined with seemingly perfect macro.. | ||
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