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Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
July 27 2008 02:21 GMT
#1121
now i have just realized
i just cant list 5 top z players.

1-jaedong
2-july (arguably)
3-luxury (arguably)
the end?

savior of course would not be on that list...so...damnit...no more zerg players?
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
July 27 2008 02:36 GMT
#1122
If they make the maps more balanced and change the strat around to adapt, zerg will live. Im afraid it isnt doing that well right now and the map pool further makes it worse.
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
July 27 2008 02:36 GMT
#1123
On July 27 2008 10:33 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 09:53 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
I can't wait for fOrGG vs BeSt.

That will produce some epic fucking games if it ever happens.

best will crush forgg. yes, his pvz sucks ass, but he will own this newbie terran!


The newbie Terran who beat Sea, Kal, Flash, and Jaedong.

MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
July 27 2008 02:57 GMT
#1124
On July 27 2008 11:36 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 10:33 Raithed wrote:
On July 27 2008 09:53 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
I can't wait for fOrGG vs BeSt.

That will produce some epic fucking games if it ever happens.

best will crush forgg. yes, his pvz sucks ass, but he will own this newbie terran!


The newbie Terran who beat Sea, Kal, Flash, and Jaedong.



Only newbies, cheese, and mandatory military service can beat someone's favorite player. We're all fanboys at heart.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
July 27 2008 03:56 GMT
#1125
On July 27 2008 05:59 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 05:54 Kuja900 wrote:
On July 27 2008 05:02 TheTyranid wrote:
Shoot I said. Feels similar to Bisu vs. Savior. Duh it's not even close.

By the way stop arguing guys NC YellOw is the best zerg ever. Fuck results, influence and inspiration is what really counts.


Yellow is not the best zerg ever, however he is the most important. Hes the one who showed zergs are contenders, without him july/savior/ may have not even played and they both more so july also revolutionized zerg and are all incredibly important


I think Freemura and HOT did that before Yellow.


yellow is important because he was a SERIOUS zerg contender for an extended period of time.

and also he's good looking. have you seen freemura and H.O.T.?
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 27 2008 04:19 GMT
#1126
On July 27 2008 12:56 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 05:59 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 27 2008 05:54 Kuja900 wrote:
On July 27 2008 05:02 TheTyranid wrote:
Shoot I said. Feels similar to Bisu vs. Savior. Duh it's not even close.

By the way stop arguing guys NC YellOw is the best zerg ever. Fuck results, influence and inspiration is what really counts.


Yellow is not the best zerg ever, however he is the most important. Hes the one who showed zergs are contenders, without him july/savior/ may have not even played and they both more so july also revolutionized zerg and are all incredibly important


I think Freemura and HOT did that before Yellow.


yellow is important because he was a SERIOUS zerg contender for an extended period of time.

and also he's good looking. have you seen freemura and H.O.T.?


HOT looked good enough for Reach.

[image loading]
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
July 27 2008 04:20 GMT
#1127
Looks shopped.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 27 2008 04:22 GMT
#1128
On July 27 2008 13:20 zgl wrote:
Looks shopped.


lol what?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
TaDa1.
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
655 Posts
July 27 2008 04:24 GMT
#1129
game 1 it's like sAviOr playing Terran, so beautiful ! I am a forgg fan now. Predicted Forgg>> Flash, but didn't think he could 3 0 jaedong, crazy!
sos bomber stork savior fan ^ http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5160596/1/WXZ/achievements/category/4377898
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
July 27 2008 04:26 GMT
#1130
i think an in-form forGG would beat an in-form Best, but what would be fun is watching forGG against an in-form Stork or Jangbi
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
July 27 2008 04:28 GMT
#1131
in a best-of series i mean
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
July 27 2008 07:40 GMT
#1132
Out of every final I have seen, that was by far the most boring. Crap play from Jaedong, I couldn't believe his micro. I am only saying that in comparison to his usual play... ForGG had sick timing, but honestly, JD was not with it. Pretty uneventful games, just getting timing owned 3 times.
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
July 27 2008 10:32 GMT
#1133
I don't know what to think right now... I'm just kinda upset. I was routing for JD, but it would have been ok if forGG took it in a beautiful 5 game series. But 3:0?? Besides, I could't watch live so when I downloaded the VOD and saw only 3 files, I knew that when forGG won the first game, I didn't really wanted to watch the last 2 games. I was so pissed off. Still am. I don't want to hate on forGG, but he is earning merits for it.
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 12:03:51
July 27 2008 12:02 GMT
#1134
+ Show Spoiler +
Wow. Game 1 was incredible, I was at the edge of my seat the whole game. It felt like no matter how many units ForGG could muster, Jaedong still had this wounded beast kind of dangerousness about him, that he could strike a knock-out blow despite being completely overwhelmed and outclassed by ForGG. But alas, ForGG's dropship play prevailed.

Jaedong's passive style in Game 2 cost him the victory, imo. He did not really do any damage with his mutas and his lurkers poped easily as Forgg displayed some nice rine micro.

Game 3 oozed with frantic desperation on Jaedong's part; he made pathetic ling attacks which were thwarted by ForGG's firebats and scvs, mutas died by the handfull when he sent them on suicide missions into ForGG's turret-ridden base. The massacre that was the final battle made Jaedong look like a convulsing corpse.

GG.


EDIT:
On July 27 2008 13:19 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 12:56 Last Romantic wrote:
On July 27 2008 05:59 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 27 2008 05:54 Kuja900 wrote:
On July 27 2008 05:02 TheTyranid wrote:
Shoot I said. Feels similar to Bisu vs. Savior. Duh it's not even close.

By the way stop arguing guys NC YellOw is the best zerg ever. Fuck results, influence and inspiration is what really counts.


Yellow is not the best zerg ever, however he is the most important. Hes the one who showed zergs are contenders, without him july/savior/ may have not even played and they both more so july also revolutionized zerg and are all incredibly important


I think Freemura and HOT did that before Yellow.


yellow is important because he was a SERIOUS zerg contender for an extended period of time.

and also he's good looking. have you seen freemura and H.O.T.?


HOT looked good enough for Reach.

[image loading]

Lols. Is this real?
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
July 27 2008 13:03 GMT
#1135
On July 27 2008 21:02 meathook wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Wow. Game 1 was incredible, I was at the edge of my seat the whole game. It felt like no matter how many units ForGG could muster, Jaedong still had this wounded beast kind of dangerousness about him, that he could strike a knock-out blow despite being completely overwhelmed and outclassed by ForGG. But alas, ForGG's dropship play prevailed.

Jaedong's passive style in Game 2 cost him the victory, imo. He did not really do any damage with his mutas and his lurkers poped easily as Forgg displayed some nice rine micro.

Game 3 oozed with frantic desperation on Jaedong's part; he made pathetic ling attacks which were thwarted by ForGG's firebats and scvs, mutas died by the handfull when he sent them on suicide missions into ForGG's turret-ridden base. The massacre that was the final battle made Jaedong look like a convulsing corpse.

GG.


EDIT:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2008 13:19 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 27 2008 12:56 Last Romantic wrote:
On July 27 2008 05:59 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 27 2008 05:54 Kuja900 wrote:
On July 27 2008 05:02 TheTyranid wrote:
Shoot I said. Feels similar to Bisu vs. Savior. Duh it's not even close.

By the way stop arguing guys NC YellOw is the best zerg ever. Fuck results, influence and inspiration is what really counts.


Yellow is not the best zerg ever, however he is the most important. Hes the one who showed zergs are contenders, without him july/savior/ may have not even played and they both more so july also revolutionized zerg and are all incredibly important


I think Freemura and HOT did that before Yellow.


yellow is important because he was a SERIOUS zerg contender for an extended period of time.

and also he's good looking. have you seen freemura and H.O.T.?


HOT looked good enough for Reach.

[image loading]

Lols. Is this real?


Yes it is real. This is from years ago. It was from a TV ad HOT and Reach did together.
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
July 27 2008 14:27 GMT
#1136
Thats gay :<<
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
July 27 2008 16:33 GMT
#1137
Wow Reach will do anything for money.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 27 2008 22:21 GMT
#1138
lol wtf what were they doing other than being gay? 0_o
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-28 00:01:41
July 27 2008 23:54 GMT
#1139
On July 26 2008 18:58 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2008 18:57 EvilTeletubby wrote:
I agree haji, July/oov was just... wow...

But anyways, I had high hopes for this series after game 1 then I don't know what happened.


I was talking with QI, and he dropped the line "Seems 3 gas hive is outdated"
I think Forgg has upped the ante for zergs.
Then again he's the only one doing it his way.

Hwasin's doing it his way.

we'll see what zergs figure out agianst the 3rd gas deny / timing before hive style terrans.

They just need to go back to playing the way savior did in his prime. 3 hatch muta + early ups and speedlings--> 3rd gas-- late hive with a huge amount of lurkers --> finish with ultra/defiler. Oh, and fucking amazing flanks + positing

The difference is they need to add a +1 range attack upgrade. The way terran is playing now , as you mentioned, is designed around moving out with the maximum number of the ideal mix of units just before hive arrives. This often involves moving out as soon as 2/1 upgrades finish, or at least 1/1. As I'm sure you know this makes lurkers 33% less effective as they take 3 shots(hitting at once) instead of 2(again hitting at once) to kill a marine.

The final game is a good example of why. If you plan to defend with lurkers in midgame the +1 range seems almost necessary given the level of top terran pros these days. You could see in the footage several situations where 2 lurker shots hit a clump of marines and they all lived. In a game like bw every marine counts It's definitely worth the 175/100 (or 225[50 for the drone]/100 or 100/100[youll need an evo anyway] depending on how you want to look at it)

Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-28 04:38:27
July 28 2008 04:38 GMT
#1140
All of a sudden sAviOr losing 0-2 to Forgg doesn't look so bad does it? lol. I remember so many people flaming sAviOr for losing to forgg..funny how it turned out
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