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[MSL Finals] Jaedong vs fOrGG - Page 38

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HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
July 26 2008 09:37 GMT
#741
GOOOOO LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE "JAEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG" JAAAAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
Team name: Borussia Dortmunds Star(craft) Team (10) (Z)Jaedong (Captain) (7) (P)JangBi (2) (T)Bogus (2) (Z)sAviOr (2) (P)BackHo (0) (Z)YellOw (7) Lecaf Oz
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
July 26 2008 09:37 GMT
#742
On July 26 2008 18:35 traced wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2008 18:32 QibingZero wrote:
In any case, I don't see why a terran beating a zerg on terran favored maps (we're all agreeing here, as far as I've seen) is considered an upset, especially at this level of gameplay where very little separates the best from the runner-ups.

this is just as big an upset as bisu over savior or mind over bisu or luxury over flash

it's just that it's so common now there's that lingering suspicion in everyone's mind to...expect the upset.


Except, you know, by conventional starcraft wisdom:

bisu over savior - PvZ
mind over bisu - TvP
luxury over flash - ZvT

Those are upsets not just because the player losing was 'on top' at the moment.
Oh, my eSports
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
July 26 2008 09:37 GMT
#743
On July 26 2008 18:35 traced wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2008 18:32 QibingZero wrote:
In any case, I don't see why a terran beating a zerg on terran favored maps (we're all agreeing here, as far as I've seen) is considered an upset, especially at this level of gameplay where very little separates the best from the runner-ups.

this is just as big an upset as bisu over savior or mind over bisu or luxury over flash

it's just that it's so common now there's that lingering suspicion in everyone's mind to...expect the upset.

bisu over savior was a way bigger upset than mind over bisu or luxury over flash and this is much less of an upset than either of those three.
aka StormtoSS
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
July 26 2008 09:38 GMT
#744
On July 26 2008 18:35 traced wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2008 18:32 QibingZero wrote:
In any case, I don't see why a terran beating a zerg on terran favored maps (we're all agreeing here, as far as I've seen) is considered an upset, especially at this level of gameplay where very little separates the best from the runner-ups.

this is just as big an upset as bisu over savior or mind over bisu or luxury over flash

it's just that it's so common now there's that lingering suspicion in everyone's mind to...expect the upset.


Not really, jaedong has been doing pretty bad for the last month+ vs t on the maps.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 26 2008 09:38 GMT
#745
On July 26 2008 18:34 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
To claim t is >>>> than z based on 2 games when jaedong has raped every other T on the scene with ease doesn't make too much sense.

I think ForGG just knows Jaedongs style well, has no pressure on him (everyone expects him to lose anyways) , and is executing so SO well. Hes clearly not effected by nerves here.


It's the maps as well. Even the commentators have been saying that these maps favor terrans big time. I don't think you can deny that.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 26 2008 09:38 GMT
#746
On July 26 2008 18:34 3nickma wrote:
But last season JDs mutas would've wrecked forGGs army but now he's lost his devine muta micro (for good?) it may sadly seem.


hard when forgg uses anti-muta builds both games tho
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
July 26 2008 09:38 GMT
#747
GOGOGOOG

PARK JI SOO FIGHTING!

JD @ 5

FORGG @ 11
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 26 2008 09:38 GMT
#748
tiamat

forgg at 1
jaedong at 5
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7498 Posts
July 26 2008 09:38 GMT
#749
Forggs strength is showing to be jaedongs weakness : constant masses of units..

hard to micro muta against that many rines with +1 eh?

lurkers get shredded by huge early-midgame mnm balls ..

Jaedong has been behind in every fight ... forgg is just playing his game which is working really good
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
July 26 2008 09:38 GMT
#750
jaedong cheerful

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#1 Terran hater
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 26 2008 09:38 GMT
#751
i hope jd wins this one.. i want a game 4
hatred outlives the hateful
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
July 26 2008 09:39 GMT
#752
forgg fans reminding jaedong that forgg does timed attacks
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
July 26 2008 09:39 GMT
#753
Forgg needs to win on tiamat or Jaedong is coming back to win it 3-2.
Pulp can move, baby!
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 26 2008 09:39 GMT
#754
On July 26 2008 18:38 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2008 18:34 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
To claim t is >>>> than z based on 2 games when jaedong has raped every other T on the scene with ease doesn't make too much sense.

I think ForGG just knows Jaedongs style well, has no pressure on him (everyone expects him to lose anyways) , and is executing so SO well. Hes clearly not effected by nerves here.


It's the maps as well. Even the commentators have been saying that these maps favor terrans big time. I don't think you can deny that.

Ya, I said it too earlier Maps are always a huge factor at this level.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 26 2008 09:39 GMT
#755
On July 26 2008 18:34 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2008 18:25 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 26 2008 18:23 QibingZero wrote:
On July 26 2008 18:22 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
WOW! Just wow. That was one of t he most amazing displays of terran micro I've ever seen.

Flawless.


Posts like this really don't add much to anything.

Then I'm sure you'll cry fanboyism.

Neither does yours.

Fuck off?


Dude check yourself out tonight .... your being a complete faggot

you comment on replys to my comments with asshole comments "fanboyism" when I never ever make bullshit jaedong superhero comments, he's just a player I like ...

while you actually think forgg just displayed the best terran micro you've ever seen when his macro is what was amazing ... having those extra 5-10 marines ever battle is what is good, not his micro ...

I mean dude you must have no experience watching the terran greats if you actually believe that was the best micro ever ...

but who cares your acting like an asshole ... tone it down man seriously


forgg's micro, esp if you count unit positioning and sense of the correct placement, has been extrmely good.

It hasnt been really his macro, but his builds more than anything that has enabled him the wins. They've been just spot-on.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
July 26 2008 09:39 GMT
#756
On July 26 2008 18:34 3nickma wrote:
But last season JDs mutas would've wrecked forGGs army but now he's lost his devine muta micro (for good?) it may sadly seem.


Well, the change to Blue Storm and the other new maps this season, mixed with every Terran's rational fear causing them to put up 5-10 turrets a game is more responsible for that than any bit of mechanics loss Jaedong has had (I would bet on close to 0).
Oh, my eSports
imthemaster
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States115 Posts
July 26 2008 09:40 GMT
#757
Would should jaedong do against those anti mutalisk builds? Stop harassing?
larra
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany44 Posts
July 26 2008 09:40 GMT
#758
Did anyone notice Jeadong looks very tired ? Just like Savior in the match vs Bisu and recently, like Flash vs Forgg. When I saw that, I thought of 0-3 for him. Dont know why physical condition is taken lightly, maybe thats his fatal disadvantage.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
July 26 2008 09:40 GMT
#759
Both ForGG and Jaedong are gods in every MUs don't know what is the upset here . JD can't beat them all on this maps but he sure can try .
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 26 2008 09:40 GMT
#760
jaedong 9 pool no gas. with drone scout, forgg standard 1 rax.
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