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MSL Semifinal B fOrGG vs Flash - Page 4

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Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
July 17 2008 02:37 GMT
#61
On July 17 2008 10:58 alffla wrote:
why do ppl want forgg to win i cannot understand wtf

who doesnt want an epic flash vs jaednog finals????!?!?


Ugh, as much as I'd like a good series of games I don't want Flash to win, and Jaedong is meh for me. I suppose if Flash wins and the games are legendary then I'd be okay with that but I'm really skeptical ;P.
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
July 17 2008 02:50 GMT
#62
if flash has a hard time vs bubblegum, then hes going to have issues with forGG. wont be easy for flash, TvT is not very predictable, plus, theyre tied at 1-1 atm.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
July 17 2008 04:09 GMT
#63
Does ForGG actually have better macro than Flash?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
July 17 2008 04:28 GMT
#64
both flash and jaedong lost that fire that made them seem invincible so i rather i have a forgg and jaedong final.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
July 17 2008 04:33 GMT
#65
I agree with everyone's sentiment that this will not be easy for Flash, but he's still just a young boy full of passion and fire. I think he'll take the series based on that, though it won't be easy based on Forgg's play lately. However, if Forgg does win, I'd be much more ok with Jaedong beating Forgg than Flash, so two of three possible outcomes are alright with me ;D

I hope most of all they are excellent (but not necessarily epic in length) games and that Flash doesn't get trounced. As long as he wins or loses in close battles I won't kill myself.

Then, with Flash showing the true brutality of KTF, Nal_rA will be inspired, remember the old days, and go for a grand slam next season (GOM, OGN, MBC leagues).
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
July 17 2008 04:53 GMT
#66
On July 17 2008 13:28 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
both flash and jaedong lost that fire that made them seem invincible so i rather i have a forgg and jaedong final.


i wouldnt say this about jaedong. he looks just as intense as ever; it's flash who seems to have fallen off a bit. he's a strong kid but he seems to be slumping mentally a bit.
manner
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
July 17 2008 05:21 GMT
#67
On July 17 2008 13:09 Juicyfruit wrote:
Does ForGG actually have better macro than Flash?

No, guys flash only has this to worry about he can't lose to forgg here, hes the best tvt in the world and i dont see him losing a set to someone like forgg
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Corinthos *
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada1842 Posts
July 17 2008 05:22 GMT
#68
Flash or forgg doesn't matter, a tvz final is to die for.
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
July 17 2008 06:00 GMT
#69
In fact, there is no difference who wins - Flash or forGG, since in any case the winner will be totally raped in finals by the Maestro 2.0
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
July 17 2008 06:05 GMT
#70
As much as i want a 5 game series, Flash will 3-0 i've seen him pull too many wins out of his ass to think otherwise.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 17 2008 06:05 GMT
#71
On July 17 2008 14:21 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2008 13:09 Juicyfruit wrote:
Does ForGG actually have better macro than Flash?

No, guys flash only has this to worry about he can't lose to forgg here, hes the best tvt in the world and i dont see him losing a set to someone like forgg


Best TvT in the world dropped a game to ForGG last week. Plus he looked shaky vs Lomo.
God Bless
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
July 17 2008 06:13 GMT
#72
WHY FLASH MUST WIN!!

1) ktf is my god
2) flash vs jaedong finals will be epic...it will be like new version of boxer vs yellow final (if it does become flash vs jaedong final, the entire stadium will be packed as hell)
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
berkguyyy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States151 Posts
July 17 2008 06:24 GMT
#73
Flash is like the only person in the world capable of standing up to the Lecaf juggernauts. Kinda reminds me of when Fischer took on the entire Soviet chess world. Anyhow, I'm really hoping Flash can take out fORGG to set up one of the most epic MSL final ever. Imagine if Flash ends up defeating Lomo, fORGG, Backho in the GSL, Jaedong, and Jaedong again in the GSL. The odds are against him, but if anyone's to become a one man demolition squad of the Lecaf team it's gonna be Flash.
Februarys
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Korea (South)259 Posts
July 17 2008 06:26 GMT
#74
On July 16 2008 18:31 grobo wrote:
Don't like Flash but i want him to win this so Jaedong can destroy him in the finals.

3-2 Flash


THE BEST QUOTE EVER!

Go Jaedong!

I dislike Flash but I'll root for him just this once!
Jaedong is the Hope of Zergs.
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 06:47:10
July 17 2008 06:41 GMT
#75
I don't see why people dislike Flash.
I also don't see why people think Flash is some unstoppable SC playing machine.

Flash is really good, forGG is really good, hopefully the games will be really good. Too bad KTF doesn't have reliably strong singles players to give Flash a break during the PL season, or I would be pretty sure of a Jaedong/Flash final. As it is, Flash is pretty obviously burning out- but maybe he can push forward and win over these next few weeks before getting a much-needed vacation.

But yeah... Flash has been dropping random TvT games lately, and while he's won the last few TvT series he's been in, can't really say he looked invincible in any of those series (except maybe game 3 vs. Memory, though Memory deserves some "credit" for unsieging right then).
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 17 2008 06:44 GMT
#76
forgg what a joke
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 07:12:52
July 17 2008 07:00 GMT
#77
On July 17 2008 13:09 Juicyfruit wrote:
Does ForGG actually have better macro than Flash?


From the recent games i watched i think forgg and sea have the best macro right now. Flash's game vs luxury on andromeda his macro was subpar for a top pro. Flash hasnt been on top lately compared to his monster form before.

Forgg is sort of an oddball. I admit that, but his games recently have been really entertaining. Hes pretty creative. And personally i want to see a team final. Flash has a better chance though cause hes more experienced serieswise, but forgg isnt no pushover.

Jaedong's zvt also hasnt been looking that well lately. His zvp improved a lot and is looking sharp as ever and his zvz has always been really good but his zvt vs hwasin. Even though he won it was really sloppy and lackluster. But his recent game vs lomo on katrina seemed really nice. If he can play like that the finals whoever it is will be really fun.

ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
July 17 2008 07:07 GMT
#78
too bad forgg sucks at TvT... a forgg jaedong finals would be good, I'm sure they play each other all the time at the lecaf house
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
July 17 2008 07:12 GMT
#79
Jaedong vs Flash in the finals... would be beyond epic. It would be a need of the general human society satisfied, no matter the victor.

So with all due regret, fuck you forGG and GO FLASH! and GO HISTORIC MSL FINAL!!!!
yayacamel
Profile Joined November 2007
Singapore16 Posts
July 17 2008 07:20 GMT
#80
Free from sentiment, I believe Flash is going to take this, probably 3:1. In fact who wins tonight does not matter, as we all know JD will smash any Terran in the grand final!

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