EPT[OSL] Grand Final: July versus BeSt - Page 70
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IntoTheWow
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:04 Ancestral wrote: I guess if you're nervous you should be allowed a re-game. Did I say that? | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:02 IntoTheWow wrote: Uh no, you can deserve something and not get it. Erm, that is wayyy too vague Agu. In the sense of Only-one-person-can-be-the-winner how do you figure who "deserves" it more? I would think the person who played better, no? | ||
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:05 IntoTheWow wrote: Of course boxer deserves a golden mouse are you fucking kidding me? As much as I love you intothewow and boxer. . . Boxer doesn't deserve it until he earns it. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:03 Uligor wrote: I still think BeSt is superior to July, he got killed by all-in rushes in the first 2 games and was too nervous in the last game. Having a strong early game is part of being good at starcraft. What kind of a superior player only wins "no rush 20 minutes" games? Too nervous in the last game? You must be right, since JulyZerg's perfect counter to corsair+reaver with his well-controlled scourge and mid-game hydra->muta transition was just a fluke. | ||
disciple
9070 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:05 IntoTheWow wrote: Of course boxer deserves a golden mouse are you fucking kidding me? Meh, July and Nada have the golden mouse, Boxer deserves more than that | ||
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:00 QuietIdiot wrote: July is something amazing. He's been crushed in an OSL Final twice, faltered again 0-3 in an MSL semi-final, and then was defeated painfully by the same guy he beat for a title. Through this, he suffered terrible proleague records, team switches, turned into a 2v2 player, and his aura against terran was no more. But with a little luck and experience, he scrambled from the bottom and worked himself up OSL once more. I love july not simply because he won this series, because unlike savior, he has an extremely strong will, despite failing over and over again through terrible odds, he managed to find the will to keep on fighting. He deserves this Golden mouse the same reason why Nada did, because he defeated his inner demons and overcame his failures. That quality alone will make you a champion no matter what road you take. | ||
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Narrator
United States868 Posts
You practically did by saying that BeSt is superior when he didn't have the correct mindset. If he was too nervous while July was calm, then July is superior. | ||
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
The first OSL zerg winner should be the first Zerg Golden Mouse. Congratulations to July, I've been a fan ever since I first saw his replays surfacing and then 2-1 XellOs(who I think is awesome) and 3-2 oov(lolol oov = sounding board for those games). Now, the only thing that remains: NaDa must achieve the platinum mouse first! | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:00 QuietIdiot wrote: July is something amazing. He's been crushed in an OSL Final twice, faltered again 0-3 in an MSL semi-final, and then was defeated painfully by the same guy he beat for a title. Through this, he suffered terrible proleague records, team switches, turned into a 2v2 player, and his aura against terran was no more. But with a little luck and experience, he scrambled from the bottom and worked himself up OSL once more. I love july not simply because he won this series, because unlike savior, he has an extremely strong will, despite failing over and over again through terrible odds, he managed to find the will to keep on fighting. He deserves this Golden mouse the same reason why Nada did, because he defeated his inner demons and overcame his failures. That quality alone will make you a champion no matter what road you take. This should shut all those fuckers who said "July did not deserve to win" | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:04 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Thank you, man. That was beautifully put. except the part about savior.. i think hes working hard to make a comeback too but maybe he just cannot find the right way or is having terrible luck... i dont think he doesnt care about it at all... one thing's for sure his confidence is like all the way down >_<; anyway no need to switch topic JULLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYY <3 | ||
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:06 IntoTheWow wrote: If tomorrow a new award / trophy was announce to be given for a progaming career voted by people on who do you think it would deserve it, Boxer would get it 100% (unless TL voted in which case it would go to ToSsGirL). But we're not tlaking about a popularity contest. . . July did something boxer could not. Win 3 OSL Finals. Therefore he deserves it more than boxer. . .. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:06 IntoTheWow wrote: If tomorrow a new award / trophy was announce to be given for a progaming career voted by people on who do you think it would deserve it, Boxer would get it 100% (unless TL voted in which case it would go to ToSsGirL). haha so true | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:07 Gryffindor_us wrote: July does deserve this mouse. QuietIdiot hit it on the mark in many respects. July is not like Savior who has disappeared from the radar, he's like NaDa because he perseveres and returns despite being an older player with nothing to prove. The first OSL zerg winner should be the first Zerg Golden Mouse. Congratulations to July, I've been a fan ever since I first saw his replays surfacing and then 2-1 XellOs(who I think is awesome) and 3-2 oov(lolol oov = sounding board for those games). Now, the only thing that remains: NaDa must achieve the platinum mouse first! What would this monumental day be on TL without you? | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:07 Narrator wrote: You practically did by saying that BeSt is superior when he didn't have the correct mindset. If he was too nervous while July was calm, then July is superior. Yeah, I was going to say this but I was too slow :D. Best may be better in Proleague, be more technical, "modern," etc., but nerves matter. Best's nerves were inferior, and nerves matter in this game. So he lost, that means he didn't deserve to win unless he works on his nerves. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:06 StRyKeR wrote: Having a strong early game is part of being good at starcraft. What kind of a superior player only wins "no rush 20 minutes" games? Too nervous in the last game? You must be right, since JulyZerg's perfect counter to corsair+reaver with his well-controlled scourge and mid-game hydra->muta transition was just a fluke. BeSt was too greedy in the first 2 games: In the first game he wanted to get his nexus before his forge without having scouted the opponent. In the second game he went straight for tech and only brought 5-6 probes off his mineral line to help defend. In the third game his offense was weak, I'm not saying July's build wasn't awesome, but BeSt was on defense for almost the entire mid-late game. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:06 EvilTeletubby wrote: Erm, that is wayyy too vague Agu. In the sense of Only-one-person-can-be-the-winner how do you figure who "deserves" it more? I would think the person who played better, no? Uh dunno to make a quick example World cup '06: Portugal vs Netherlands. Games involve luck to some extent, some more some less. I'm not going nitpick little shit like starting positions or stuff like that. I'm just saying that considering this OSL alone, BeSt had a harder run, which he over came, same as July (who still faces rock and backho -_-). You can of course say that July has come back from a gigantic slump and he deserves it too, but there's no point of comparison with BeSt there since he hasn't been on the scene for as long as July. | ||
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
On July 12 2008 20:10 Uligor wrote: BeSt was too greedy in the first 2 games: In the first game he wanted to get his nexus before his forge without having scouted the opponent. In the second game he went straight for tech and only brought 5-6 probes off his mineral line to help defend. In the third game his offense was weak, I'm not saying July's build wasn't awesome, but BeSt was on defense for almost the entire mid-late game. Wow, you took the words right out of my mouth  Do you see now why JulyZerg was the better player? | ||
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