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[OSL] Grand Final: July versus BeSt - Page 3

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ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
July 07 2008 06:07 GMT
#41
put up a picture of the golden mouse please!
go OVERSKY MODE!
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
July 07 2008 06:21 GMT
#42
On July 07 2008 14:23 larra wrote:
July will take it 3-1 and Best will prove he's just like Kal, I believe. Only Bisu with his crazy sair dt multitasking can rival July's play. Without that air-control, zvp is easy :D
Just like kal wtf? If he was just like kal, July would be demolished. Kal has the best pvz out there right now, and is one of the best players in uh....general.
Can you dig it?
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
July 07 2008 06:29 GMT
#43
^^^

Straight up, July walks all over Protoss. There is nothing more to it, his level of play vs P is just outstanding. His game sense is perfect, he knows every possible option that they could pursue and acts clean and casually to it. I really don't think Best can take this, nor do I want him to. This would be beyond epic for someone as old school as July to take the title. He would be showing that he is one of the best Broodwar players of all time, if not the best, period. To win in multi-generational tournaments is amazing, that just means that he can adapt to skill levels and play styles unlike no other player. I am really holding out for this one.
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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
July 07 2008 06:33 GMT
#44
Eh don't just minimalize july's ability with terms like "air control" or Kal = Best.
The flow of ZvP, especially with July, is so amorphous with players. July can pull all sorts of cards for this series, and whether he gets air control or not does not mean its a sure thing.


In fact I think Best / Kal have a bit of difference of style in PvZ. Best has better macro/game sense, kal likes to throw as many punches as possible and hopes to suffocate the enemy into a disadvantage. I agree with FS with "kal sucks", the guy plays dumb every so often.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 07 2008 06:45 GMT
#45
Nice banner, whoopy.

If July can force his style on Best, Best will lose. If Best can force the mid-game on July, I think Best will win.

Saying that July has really good ZvP isn't really that definitive of a statement to make; he beat Blackho and Rock to get here and both aren't really known for their PvZ. His ZvP might have been really good in the past but in this new era of PvZ it's hard to say with such a small sample size of games.
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-07 07:20:01
July 07 2008 07:04 GMT
#46
Best will hopefully arrive at this final prepared to deal with early shenanigans. The final against Luxury should have imprinted into his mind that the earlygame is where he needs to maintain parity against zerg players, so his macromanagement can then crush them. July has managed to beat .. Rock and Backho, who are hardly impressive PvZ, and hence I think there is plenty of room for either player to impose their style on this final.

That said, given July's record against Protoss, it is time for him to lose a Bo5 ZvP. 3:1 for Best, possibly 3:2 if Hwarangdo buggers it up.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 07 2008 07:22 GMT
#47
3 1 BeSt

never been a fan of july.
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-07 08:13:21
July 07 2008 08:13 GMT
#48
On July 07 2008 15:07 ray1234 wrote:
put up a picture of the golden mouse please!




=)

Go July!
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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
July 07 2008 08:13 GMT
#49
I hope July wins because this guy winning the OSL will make ALOT of fans happy, especially the fans that want old schoolers to be dominant again.

I personally wanna see a Sauron Zerg moment on Andromeda
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
July 07 2008 08:23 GMT
#50
On July 07 2008 15:29 Quesadilla wrote:
^^^

Straight up, July walks all over Protoss. There is nothing more to it, his level of play vs P is just outstanding. His game sense is perfect, he knows every possible option that they could pursue and acts clean and casually to it. I really don't think Best can take this, nor do I want him to. This would be beyond epic for someone as old school as July to take the title. He would be showing that he is one of the best Broodwar players of all time, if not the best, period. To win in multi-generational tournaments is amazing, that just means that he can adapt to skill levels and play styles unlike no other player. I am really holding out for this one.


y r u thinking the same thing as i was thinking? nth much to say, JULY FOR THE GOLDEN MOUSE!!!! then both of my idol, (nada and july) will have a golden mouse. XD. too bad oov wont get have it. he is also 1 of my idol.
Oppa feeding style
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 07 2008 08:28 GMT
#51
On July 07 2008 16:04 HaXxorIzed wrote:
Best will hopefully arrive at this final prepared to deal with early shenanigans. The final against Luxury should have imprinted into his mind that the earlygame is where he needs to maintain parity against zerg players, so his macromanagement can then crush them. July has managed to beat .. Rock and Backho, who are hardly impressive PvZ, and hence I think there is plenty of room for either player to impose their style on this final.

That said, given July's record against Protoss, it is time for him to lose a Bo5 ZvP. 3:1 for Best, possibly 3:2 if Hwarangdo buggers it up.


Great thing about July is that everyone knows what's coming early game, yet they still fail to stop it.
God Bless
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
July 07 2008 09:07 GMT
#52
omg, this event will happen at july 12th and topic is already opened................
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
July 07 2008 09:08 GMT
#53
Haha nice bio for best

I don't know who to go for though
wo0py
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Netherlands922 Posts
July 07 2008 10:38 GMT
#54
On July 07 2008 17:13 Railz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2008 15:07 ray1234 wrote:
put up a picture of the golden mouse please!




=)

Go July!


Il put it in the first post
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Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
July 07 2008 10:52 GMT
#55
I do think Best can win this though it will be a very close series . Go go, Best!
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-07 11:23:36
July 07 2008 11:23 GMT
#56
BeSt, CRUSH the fatman please !!
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 07 2008 11:41 GMT
#57
Never knew that July was a Royal Road walker. So that makes them four then..

Grrr....
BoxeR
July
Jaedong..
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Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
July 07 2008 11:41 GMT
#58
July in July.




If Best wins it's just another starleague title to some "guy". But if July wins, boy then we have some real history. The first zerg to win a golden mouse, the second progamer ever to win one, the simple message that says "yes not only nada can do it", the hype and love from fans that had to endure drama and problems with julys future and past finaly pay off.

July has to win this. He absolutly has to. And if he does, it will be a great mark in the history of starcraft progaming.

God Of War. We believe!
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
July 07 2008 11:47 GMT
#59
On July 07 2008 20:41 Jayson X wrote:


God Of War. We believe!


nevaaaaaaaar

Golden Mouse means awarding and honouring the best progamer of all times. Nobody besides NaDa should have it. It wouldn't be his unique award anymore. =/
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
dyodyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Philippines578 Posts
July 07 2008 11:50 GMT
#60
July getting the second golden mouse in the month of July would be so epic!
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