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Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
June 27 2008 12:14 GMT
#621
Lux would've had a better chance going 4-pool in the last three games.
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
June 27 2008 12:15 GMT
#622
On June 27 2008 21:10 Letmelose wrote:
Best's played very well, but it was nothing a top class zerg couldn't handle, not in this map pool.


Lux isn't a top class zerg now?

Sure, Lux had a mental breakdown it's not like that was spontaneous! We have to give all credit to BeSt for having the mental fortitude to stay in this match down 2-0 with lings running around in his base and 2-1 with his nexus near dead. That is balls.

Especially given the map pool, this was more BeSt's victory than Lux's loss.
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Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
June 27 2008 12:16 GMT
#623
Agreed. BeSt took those near-losses in games 3 and 4 very well. He managed to keep himself together and come back for the win.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 27 2008 12:16 GMT
#624
On June 27 2008 21:10 Letmelose wrote:
I'm gonna mention this because people keep citing Best's PvP statistics wrongly.

Best never reached 80% in PvP. Whoever organized the TLPD statistics made a mistake by not including some of Best's matches in Survivor Tournaments and Dual Tournaments. His PvP skills are something to behold, there's no doubting in that, but lets not get carried away by incorrect statistics. In his relatively short career, he lost four times to Stork, twice to Lucifer, twice to Jangbi and once each to Rock, Bisu and ForU. That's eleven defeats, not five as TLPD records.

I'm bitter as hell because Luxury should have taken that series. Best's played very well, but it was nothing a top class zerg couldn't handle, not in this map pool. Luxury is going to have sleepless nights over this because he knows that he screwed up, and he is a better player than what he has shown tonight.

Survivor and ODT are all in TLPD, what are you talking about?
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
June 27 2008 12:16 GMT
#625
On June 27 2008 21:15 jwd241224 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2008 21:10 Letmelose wrote:
Best's played very well, but it was nothing a top class zerg couldn't handle, not in this map pool.


Lux isn't a top class zerg now?


Not against Protoss...
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
June 27 2008 12:17 GMT
#626
Weren't those losses cited by LetmeLose offlines?
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3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
June 27 2008 12:18 GMT
#627
On June 27 2008 21:07 larra wrote:
Luxury went up to 2,9 but never reach 3 :D Why on earth did he cry after losing game 3 ? He's still ahead 2-1. I think Best's pvz is solid but not that great, it's more Lux's mental unstablity. He sacrificed a group of lings in game 3 and thought he is ahead, played too greedy in game 4 and too passive in game 5.

Now it is a golden chance for July. Now or never, God of war !


I've been wondering about that too. But maybe it's because he somehow knew he couldn't win a straight up game that exceeded a rush like strategy or something? His series against Stork was crap and maybe it didn't improve much in his preperation for this match thinking I really need some early advantage to win or I'm just dead with my ZvP skills later as the game progresses? Just a thought.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 27 2008 12:20 GMT
#628
On June 27 2008 20:55 Dromar wrote:
Wow, how crushing it must be to go from 2:0 to 2:3, and out of the OSL. He had the finals in his grasp, ...

damn, I'm sad, and I was just rooting for him.
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aev
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
166 Posts
June 27 2008 12:20 GMT
#629
BEST YOU SEXY BITCH I FUCKING LOVE YOU
Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
June 27 2008 12:21 GMT
#630
OMG, he DID pull a Jianfei
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
June 27 2008 12:24 GMT
#631
He is the best zerg in the scene along with Jaedong. It's shattering to see a zerg player of Luxury's caliber lose because the way in which Luxury played today was utterly disgusting and I know he could have gotten himself a place in the finals if not for that.

Best played better and deserved his place in the finals. I'm just dissapointed because the finals was Luxury's for the taking and he failed to capitalize on this golden opportunity.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
June 27 2008 12:27 GMT
#632
On June 27 2008 21:24 Letmelose wrote:
He is the best zerg in the scene along with Jaedong. It's shattering to see a zerg player of Luxury's caliber lose because the way in which Luxury played today was utterly disgusting and I know he could have gotten himself a place in the finals if not for that.

Best played better and deserved his place in the finals. I'm just dissapointed because the finals was Luxury's for the taking and he failed to capitalize on this golden opportunity.


Well said there.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-27 12:35:37
June 27 2008 12:31 GMT
#633
On June 27 2008 21:10 Letmelose wrote:
I'm gonna mention this because people keep citing Best's PvP statistics wrongly.

Best never reached 80% in PvP. Whoever organized the TLPD statistics made a mistake by not including some of Best's matches in Survivor Tournaments and Dual Tournaments. His PvP skills are something to behold, there's no doubting in that, but lets not get carried away by incorrect statistics. In his relatively short career, he lost four times to Stork, twice to Lucifer, twice to Jangbi and once each to Rock, Bisu and ForU. That's eleven defeats, not five as TLPD records.

I'm bitter as hell because Luxury should have taken that series. Best's played very well, but it was nothing a top class zerg couldn't handle, not in this map pool. Luxury is going to have sleepless nights over this because he knows that he screwed up, and he is a better player than what he has shown tonight.




Luxury , luxury , luxury i guess you are not ready to be a champion yet , congrats to you for makeing it this far and congrats to Best for not chokeing like most players .... I was looking forward to seeing Luxury maybe on #2 spot on the PR next month if he won , but all well remember that there is always next time and try to take this time as experience , and if you have even i slight advantage use it to annihilate your opponent ...
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 27 2008 12:31 GMT
#634
On June 27 2008 21:24 Letmelose wrote:
He is the best zerg in the scene along with Jaedong. It's shattering to see a zerg player of Luxury's caliber lose because the way in which Luxury played today was utterly disgusting and I know he could have gotten himself a place in the finals if not for that.

Best played better and deserved his place in the finals. I'm just dissapointed because the finals was Luxury's for the taking and he failed to capitalize on this golden opportunity.
OH THE PAIN
savor it
because it's going to be a loooong time before you feel better again
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
June 27 2008 12:31 GMT
#635
On June 27 2008 21:16 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2008 21:10 Letmelose wrote:
I'm gonna mention this because people keep citing Best's PvP statistics wrongly.

Best never reached 80% in PvP. Whoever organized the TLPD statistics made a mistake by not including some of Best's matches in Survivor Tournaments and Dual Tournaments. His PvP skills are something to behold, there's no doubting in that, but lets not get carried away by incorrect statistics. In his relatively short career, he lost four times to Stork, twice to Lucifer, twice to Jangbi and once each to Rock, Bisu and ForU. That's eleven defeats, not five as TLPD records.

I'm bitter as hell because Luxury should have taken that series. Best's played very well, but it was nothing a top class zerg couldn't handle, not in this map pool. Luxury is going to have sleepless nights over this because he knows that he screwed up, and he is a better player than what he has shown tonight.

Survivor and ODT are all in TLPD, what are you talking about?
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/individual-leagues
Offline prelims are missing, but that doesnt matter


Well, since you're asking. I'll mention some matches TLPD doesn't record.

The most recent match TLPD doesn't record was Best's match against Lucifer in the 14th Survivor Tournament in Feb 4th 2008. Best lost 1-2 to Lucifer and failed to qualify for the MSL. TLPD hasn't recorded this.

If you don't believe this match happened, take a look at Lucifer's winning interview (it's in Korean, not sure if any English site has this match covered).

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=51764&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
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ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
June 27 2008 12:35 GMT
#636
Wow, what an epic meltdown.

Lux is a chump
Pulp can move, baby!
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
June 27 2008 12:37 GMT
#637
On June 27 2008 21:31 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2008 21:24 Letmelose wrote:
He is the best zerg in the scene along with Jaedong. It's shattering to see a zerg player of Luxury's caliber lose because the way in which Luxury played today was utterly disgusting and I know he could have gotten himself a place in the finals if not for that.

Best played better and deserved his place in the finals. I'm just dissapointed because the finals was Luxury's for the taking and he failed to capitalize on this golden opportunity.
OH THE PAIN
savor it
because it's going to be a loooong time before you feel better again


Ah well, I still have July to root for in this tournament. Never liked Luxury that much anyhow. His multitasking and reaction times suck too much.

Still feel like crap though.
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traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
June 27 2008 12:38 GMT
#638
if only jaedong could somehow clone himself so there would be more competitive zergs

are there any interesting newcomers tearing up the proleagues? i haven't noticed any
Gaetele
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Esper760 Posts
June 27 2008 12:41 GMT
#639
Luxury fared a lot better in the first two games when he was much more aggressive. BeSt seems to do best when he is allowed time for his macro to kick in.

Let's see how he fares against the hyperaggressive Tushin =]
aka Ghostclaws
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
June 27 2008 12:42 GMT
#640
best cant drop a macro game
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