EPTOn June 25 2008 14:56 Ryot wrote:
Anyone else's stream go down? (VLC)
Anyone else's stream go down? (VLC)
Yes
[ShinhanPL] KTF MagicNs vs eSTRO June '08 - Page 7
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clazziquai
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o[twist]
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Ancestral
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On June 25 2008 14:55 HaLLeBaRy wrote: Flash has way weaker mechanics than you think, he's around 260 apm so someone like really definitely has macro almost as good or better than flash. Most of his games are won with really good timing Good point, except Flash's APM is a lot higher than 260. I thought the Den was a fakeout, was I wrong? | ||
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aev
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vlc still down down down | ||
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o[twist]
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Good point, except Flash's APM is a lot higher than 260. I thought the Den was a fakeout, was I wrong? I think you're right, but combined with the mound it just makes mingu seem silly. | ||
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ScarFace
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On June 25 2008 14:55 HaLLeBaRy wrote: Speed means jack shit in starcraft. Nal ra had like 150 apm at his height. Its all about effective apm, what is spam, and what is not. Doesn't matter how fast you are if you dont understand the game and you cant multitask, no matter how much you spaz around the screen. Flash knows when his scv's need to be built, where they need to be, when depots go down, when units must be made. He UNDERSTANDS macro, it has nothing to do with hand speed. At. All.Flash has way weaker mechanics than you think, he's around 260 apm so someone like really definitely has macro almost as good or better than flash. Most of his games are won with really good timing Anyways: I didn't watch the game, but I read the commentary. Flash raped a b team zerg. But did he REALLY rape him, like Flash style? Did he pull out a real win, or just a "win because you suck really bad"? Basically, did Flash look like himself?  | ||
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IdrA
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On June 25 2008 14:58 Kuja900 wrote: mingu tried to copy luxury's build that he succeeded against flash with but apparently he didnt study it hard enough and got useless tech like den/mound he never used and was to slow with the already misplaced guardians it wasnt luxurys build, hes had something like this ready since the 3rd or 4th week of proleague, he just hadnt gotten a terran yet. he got kind of unlucky getting scouted first, threw off the timing a bit. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On June 25 2008 15:01 ScarFace wrote: Speed means jack shit in starcraft. Nalra had like 150 apm at his height. Its all about effective apm, what is spam, and what is not. Doesn't matter how fast you are if you dont understand the game and you cant multitask, no matter how much you spaz around the screen. Flash knows when his scv's need to be built, where they need to be, when depots go down, when units must be made. He UNDERSTANDS macro, it has nothing to do with hand speed. At. All. QFT | ||
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kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
On June 25 2008 15:01 ScarFace wrote: Speed means jack shit in starcraft. Nal ra had like 150 apm at his height. Its all about effective apm, what is spam, and what is not. Doesn't matter how fast you are if you dont understand the game and you cant multitask, no matter how much you spaz around the screen. Flash knows when his scv's need to be built, where they need to be, when depots go down, when units must be made. He UNDERSTANDS macro, it has nothing to do with hand speed. At. All. Anyways: I didn't watch the game, but I read the commentary. Flash raped a b team zerg. But did he REALLY rape him, like Flash style? Did he pull out a real win, or just a "win because you suck really bad"? Basically, did Flash look like himself? I think that's what he was saying when he said he has really good timing... | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
On June 25 2008 15:04 kemoryan wrote: Macro is a part of Mechanics, so no it was not. Timing is strategy, its combat. Macro is troop production, they are intertwined and both have timing, but are different. I think that's what he was saying when he said he has really good timing... | ||
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Ancestral
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HaLLeBaRy
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On June 25 2008 15:01 ScarFace wrote: Speed means jack shit in starcraft. Nal ra had like 150 apm at his height. Its all about effective apm, what is spam, and what is not. Doesn't matter how fast you are if you dont understand the game and you cant multitask, no matter how much you spaz around the screen. Flash knows when his scv's need to be built, where they need to be, when depots go down, when units must be made. He UNDERSTANDS macro, it has nothing to do with hand speed. At. All. Anyways: I didn't watch the game, but I read the commentary. Flash raped a b team zerg. But did he REALLY rape him, like Flash style? Did he pull out a real win, or just a "win because you suck really bad"? Basically, did Flash look like himself? How come every time something is said about apm not mattering examples of protoss players pop up? Okay toss aside, nal ras cheese aside, his prime was ages ago when everyone was alot slower and nal ra is actually around 250 apm not 150..i checked alot of his replays and I also checked flash's replays and saw his fpvods his mechanics aren't that great but his timing is | ||
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clazziquai
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On June 25 2008 15:02 IdrA wrote: it wasnt luxurys build, hes had something like this ready since the 3rd or 4th week of proleague, he just hadnt gotten a terran yet. he got kind of unlucky getting scouted first, threw off the timing a bit. IdrA do you just practice with the B-team members when the Proleague team goes off? | ||
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AnyOne
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AnyOne
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zergboy such a noob | ||
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