EPTI believed in Bisu.
[OSL 2008] EVER Day2 Matches - May 16th - Page 20
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
I believed in Bisu. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32278 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
God I thought my heart was gonna be broken again.. GO BISU!! | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
On May 17 2008 07:24 IntoTheWow wrote: 2/4 Rock & Jangbi | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
I was wondering when someone was finally gonna do a succesful 2 gate rush and destroy an assimilator on that map, unless I somehow missed that happening before. Didn't really expect Sea to beat him either way. | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
bisu | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 17 2008 06:08 kyjori wrote: oh yes, its impossible TvP wihle the map stats are 6-6, sea winning a handful of those games. stop making excuses for sea to continually fail in individual leagues. you're an utter moron i mean seriously i say something that is sensible and reasonable and you're gonna throw the map's pvt stats at me? briiiiiilliant. Nevermind the BBS games and the fact that Daezang couldnt play his way out of a paper bag at the time when Sea beat him on this map. Nevermind the fact that EVERY TIME A PROTOSS HAS DONE A BUILD MEANT TO KILL THOSE ASSIMILATORS EARLY ON, THEY HAVE WON. Nevermind the fact that once those assimilators are dead, the protoss has complete map control and a ton of gas and there isn't a damn thing terran can do about it. The map is 6-6 it must be completely balanced!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
He was 10th last Power Rank and OFF IT the month before. Why? Because he wasn't playing well. Why is he 5th right now? Because he's playing well! This shit isn't rocket science, and there are far too many people who don't put any thought into the things they say. No matter where Sea is placed there will be a chorus of people to say HES TOO HIGH FAKESTEVE YOU ARE BIASED AND STUPID GOD I HATE YOU | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On May 17 2008 09:52 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: you're an utter moron i mean seriously i say something that is sensible and reasonable and you're gonna throw the map's pvt stats at me? briiiiiilliant. Nevermind the BBS games and the fact that Daezang couldnt play his way out of a paper bag at the time when Sea beat him on this map. Nevermind the fact that EVERY TIME A PROTOSS HAS DONE A BUILD MEANT TO KILL THOSE ASSIMILATORS EARLY ON, THEY HAVE WON. Nevermind the fact that once those assimilators are dead, the protoss has complete map control and a ton of gas and there isn't a damn thing terran can do about it. The map is 6-6 it must be completely balanced!!!!!!!!!!! If Sea had flown to 1 instead of Rock's main with that first huge goliath drop he would have won. He got too greedy and tried to go for the main. Rock had 1 carrier, so killing the assimilator asap and raping one main would have won sea the game. (Korean commentators pointed this out as well) He certainly had opportunities ;o just bad decision making | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
should have picked rock though. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 17 2008 10:21 OneOther wrote: If Sea had flown to 1 instead of Rock's main with that first huge goliath drop he would have won. He got too greedy and tried to go for the main. Rock had 1 carrier, so killing the assimilator asap and raping one main would have won sea the game. (Korean commentators pointed this out as well) He certainly had opportunities ;o just bad decision making i had thought about that when i was watching his first drop but i came to the conclusion that it would have merely delayed the inevitable. Rock could easily afford those carriers and goons without that base. If you saw how large Rock's goon force was.. I mean at worst he'd have half that many goons if he lost that base and that'd still be enough to seal it Sea's error in that game was the build order itself, he obviously had a backup plan if he lost his assimilator but i didnt see a path to victory at all once rock's carriers began | ||
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Danger_Duck
Burkina Faso571 Posts
You said he can spread goons, but if you look back, Rock BARELY was able to push the tank back to take potshots at the assimilator... And if Sea scouted it out, he coulda planted a bunker...all I'm saying that taking down the assimilator is not automatic | ||
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Danger_Duck
Burkina Faso571 Posts
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
On May 16 2008 21:02 HaXxorIzed wrote: Ye, that was what I was wondering Gin. I mean, I can understand Bisu reverting to a strategy he feels comfortable with with an advantage, but I didn't get enough of the game to be able to judge if the DT's were worth it by holding Mind back in his base. Because after all, even if they did no damage the time they bought could have won the game -> and I didn't get to judge that, so I was wondering what people who saw it thought. I don't think it delayed him at all. As already mentioned, it killed a few SCV's, a supply depot and forced a few mines. Maybe those few extra mines would have made the push more powerful at the time Mind pushed out, but I don't think it affected Mind's timing at all. Mind's play is so good. I'm liking him more and more every time I watch the guy | ||
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humblegar
Norway883 Posts
On May 16 2008 21:13 GinNtoniC wrote: Exactly, there was this guy who had submitted a question to the show commentators/hosts about any easy trick to beating terrans and Bisu basically insta-replied "fast DT drop them". How he, after that, goes on to using that strat over and over again in starleagues is either moronic or super-ballsy. I mean let's face it, it's rarely done him any good, since everyone's prepared for it nowadays. He obviously planned arbiters, so he needed archives anyways. He was always going to get a shuttle, so the only two "extra" units he builds are the two DTs. He kept both DTs and shuttle alive for a very long time, and he did kill some stuff, and made Mind waste mines, time and scans back home in stead of somewhere dangerous for Bisu. In addition Mind had used a lot of scans before the Arbiters arrived. He might not have been empty, but it seemed to me that he could not scan as much as he wanted during that last battle. Defending vs DTs does not come for free (vs a good player). | ||
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
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