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tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
February 24 2008 16:18 GMT
#841
i'm pretty sure bisu has this osl. he is still strong, just got unlucky imo. or lux. doubt flash can beat bisu stork deserves this so much tho
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
February 24 2008 16:56 GMT
#842
Actually i think Bisu Flash and Stork all have a good chance. The only way I can see Lux winning is if Stork fucks up badly or he suddenly learns ZvP, and Flash beats Bisu. Cuz Lux has no chance against Bisu in the finals.
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
February 24 2008 17:50 GMT
#843
The way I see it:
Stork = Lux
Stork > = Bisu
Stork > Flash

Luxury = < Flash
Luxury < Bisu

Bisu = < Flash

The only potential rapes would be Stork vs Flash and Bisu vs Luxury, so the semifinals couldnt really be better unless you would want to see a mirror MU and in that way get to see Flash vs Luxury.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
Jockeraroo
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-24 18:10:10
February 24 2008 18:09 GMT
#844
There is no way Flash is going to beat Bisu unless by cheesing lol.

More like Bisu>=Flash
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 24 2008 18:16 GMT
#845
On February 25 2008 03:09 Jockeraroo wrote:
There is no way Flash is going to beat Bisu unless by cheesing lol.

More like Bisu>=Flash


why do you think that
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-24 18:23:12
February 24 2008 18:21 GMT
#846
TvZ final would rock, but i don't think flash will beat Bisu. Just impossible on Katrina
Gör om, gör rätt
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 24 2008 18:46 GMT
#847
On February 25 2008 03:21 JoxxOr wrote:
TvZ final would rock, but i don't think flash will beat Bisu. Just impossible on Katrina


I think it's like 55:45 towards Flash. He's THE best Terran out there these days and he's truly playing like a beast (along with Mind, who's also playing well)

Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-24 19:40:21
February 24 2008 19:35 GMT
#848
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iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
February 25 2008 00:15 GMT
#849
I'd like to see Bisu vs. Luxury!
Xellos <3
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
February 26 2008 04:13 GMT
#850
I cant get why Jeadong teched to guardians - going guardians against goliaths is simply suicide. He could have used those gas to just mass mutas as it's the most effective units against gols. With a larger amount of mutas at least Jeadong can go trade base with Flash until he got more muta to go all in.

Losses like this make Jeadong look like he's not a strategically smart player, though his micro/macro/management can be very good. (I don't think Flash's play was smarter though, the build is pretty straight up and simple once you can survive early attacks, and your opponent uses the wrong combo, like Jeadong did)
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13007 Posts
February 26 2008 04:34 GMT
#851
Guardian are good vs goliaths, particularly on Katrina where there are a lot of cliffs and doodads to hide behind (golis have bad mobility on that map imo).

If anything I think Jaedong should have made more guardians and less muta.

That and Flash's grades were far, far better.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-26 04:53:57
February 26 2008 04:52 GMT
#852
The reason I would put Bisu at 50:50, even if I didn't think Bisu could pull out a PvT as good as Flash's TvP on the night is the maps.

Troy, Troy, Katrina. Kill Extractors, Kill extractors, prepared carrier build he hasn't used thus far on Katrina (guarding againt things like drops, etc). Best and Bisu are now in the same team after all, so I would expect the same as was done to Sea. 3:2 right there.

However, I do believe that Bisu will show up with a properly functioning PvT (he better, after the + Show Spoiler +
GSI losses, which were asdf in respect to builds and the proxy on Blue Storm
and I think both of them can pull out a close run thing in terms of skill.
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mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
February 26 2008 13:27 GMT
#853
On February 26 2008 13:34 RowdierBob wrote:
Guardian are good vs goliaths, particularly on Katrina where there are a lot of cliffs and doodads to hide behind (golis have bad mobility on that map imo).

If anything I think Jaedong should have made more guardians and less muta.

That and Flash's grades were far, far better.

I think mobility is the key in Katrina and on this aspect guardians are a far worse choice than mutas because of its speed. Moreover it doesn't have the range advantage vs goliaths, and it's a large size unit so it gets more damage from gol missiles.
From my own narrow experience of playing ZvT and TvZ, guardians never worked well vs mech Terran. I think countless of threads on mech TvZ in Strategy forum say the same thing.

Honestly going guards look like a very basic strategical mistake to me, but it's hard to believe a player like Jeadong could make those. Maybe he was reluctant and he used to win using that strat in practice games against less prepared partners.
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