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Thanks to KizZBG for the awesome banner!Tuesday, 15 January 2008 Event Time: 18:30
GOMTV MSL Season 4 Group E
 Memory < Katrina > UpMagiCfOrGG < Blue Storm >  LuxuryWinners Game < Loki II > Losers Game < Loki II > Final Game < Zodiac > WARNING!!! This is the GOMTV MSL. If you honestly can't figure out how to watch this, please jump off of several bridges before bugging us with your questions. Results:+ Show Spoiler +Memory <<< UpMagiC
fOrGG >>> Luxury
UpMagiC >>> fOrGG
Memory <<< Luxury
fOrGG <<< Luxury
UpMagiC and Luxury advance to the Ro16.
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Predictions:
Memory >>> Up
forGEEGEEEEEEEE <<< Luxury
Luxury >>> Memory
forGEEGEEEEEEEE <<< Up
Memory >>> Up
Edit: Actually, my liquibet has fOrGG and Luxury advancing. Whatever.
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forgg is a crazy macro machine gogogo
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United States11390 Posts
If Lux doesn't get through then I will cry,
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UpMagic > Memory (Because of skill difference)
ForGG < Luxury (Even, but map solves)
Luxury > UpMagic (UpMagic's suckass TvZ)
ForGG > Memory (Poor Memory. I'm not giving him a chance)
ForGG > UpMagic (Because lately he's been playing better than Up)
Passes, Luxury in Slot 1, ForGG in slot 2.
Fails, UpMagic and Memory.
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Predictions:
Memory < UpMagic
fOrGG < Luxury
UpMagic > Luxury
Memory < fOrGG
Luxury > fOrGG
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Want Luxury and UpMagiC to get out.
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lol....nobody cares about Group E. ;(
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TheMania! The guy who fought from offline qualifiers just to lose to freaking INTER.MIND?
Unbelievable.
HOPE OF CJ ENTUS FIGHTING
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United States5262 Posts
fOrGG has ridiculously good macro. He also has ridiculously sloppy micro.
He is following the time honored tradition of apish ancestors. Why micro when you can MACRO?
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2 boring terrans, a mildly promising zerg, and Upmagic. Yay group E!
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Go Up! Go Lux! :-)
UpMagiC must make it!
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Memory
Luxury
Luxury
Upmagic
Memory
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Hungary11291 Posts
Upmagic, please don't fall into the abyss. And luxury: Don't let the terrans manhandle you.
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I think Memory will get manhandled. In fact, I think all CJ Entus players will get destroyed this week... and possibly next week as well because they are busy with other stuff.
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Gogo Upmagic, my mini boxer!!!
OSL no fun without you : (((((((((((
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GOM player not working!!!
cheers!!!
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Gom player working!
Cheers!
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Guess no one cares about Group E enough to live report. haha..
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Hungary11291 Posts
Katrina started, Memory is teal at 6 and Upmagic purple at 3.
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I want to see something crazy from Up. Hopefully it will be amazing. Then again, considering how he's played recently...
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On January 15 2008 18:34 wurm wrote:
Guess no one cares about Group E enough to live report. haha..
In your face! Gotta drop some words on mini boxer 
edit: I think Upmagic was seriously stressed during december, considering his schedule. I hope he has recovered.
On game: Both expanding at their backdoor, as common on this map. Both getting gas after CC and Memory is walling off his choke.
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Mirror 1rax CC..... So far, so boring.
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On January 15 2008 18:35 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 18:34 wurm wrote:
Guess no one cares about Group E enough to live report. haha.. In your face! Gotta drop some words on mini boxer
lol. come on mini boxer. i need my LB points. :D
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Haha, scouting scv by Memory kills the scv building the CC just after the CC finishes.
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Memory with a slightly faster factory, adds machine shop and 2nd. fac. Upmagic single fac with shop, starport, armory and academy.
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Armory and academy for Memory too, Upmagic adding a 2nd factory. So the major difference is Upmagic sending out a scouting wraith right now, to cause some havoc. Scouting wraith finds 2 scvs building 2 more facs in Memory's base and kills one.
BRILLIANT TIMING by Upmagic. He places 3 sieged tanks at the ramp in front of Memory's base while 5 of memory's tanks are passing by. They get blasted by arclite shells.
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just tuned in. upmagic with 1 wraith in memory's main harassing factory building SCVs. memory adding 2 fac for 4. both with confrontation in the centre. upmagic comes up after killing 4 tanks in centre without losing any tanks of his own. both taking their centre expos now. upmagic with 2 fac with machineshop and 1 starport. memory with 4 fac. adding ebay now. upmagic has tanks in a position that will prevent mining from memory's 3rd gas in the centre. using his wraiths and a floated rax for sight now.
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Upmagic wins the siege war at memory's third base, thanks to his cloaked wraiths and a floating scouting barracks. He looks ahead now, his third base is running. Memory is circumventing the tank blockade and heading to counter. Some well-placed tanks quell the threat. Memory expanding all along the left hand side of the map, Upmagic taking top left.
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On January 15 2008 18:40 Aesop wrote:BRILLIANT TIMING by Upmagic. He places 3 sieged tanks at the ramp in front of Memory's base while 5 of memory's tanks are passing by. They get blasted by arclite shells.
Agree, excellent sense of his opponent's troops.
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why does GOMplayer run perfectly smooth when this shitty group plays, but lags like it no tomorrow when bisu vs jaedong runs ? 
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upmagic adding 2 fac for 4 now. expoing to top left. his centre expo is up. memory taking the 9 min only and the 9 main. memory keeps losing his bigger gol/tank armies to upmagic's smaller numbers but better positioned tanks. gol from memory just found top left. upmagic cancels. upmagic's 4 facs all have machineshops. memory is mining gas from his 9 main, so both of them are at 3 gas.
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G'morning pangshai
Some more siege wars in the middle of the map, scouting goliath finds upmagics top left expansion attempt and forces a cancel. Expansions on the left side start running for memory, he is starting to look better now as the economic setback is slowly compensated. Still waiting for the typicial TvT dropship wars.
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How come in liquidbet its Sea.Up and ManiaMST? <,<
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Memory adding more starports with addon, maybe finally going mass dropship or preparing for a BC finisher - he will soon have the economy to support that. Meanwhile his attack attempts get foiled by well placed tanks all over the map - Upmagic seems to control that very well.
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3port vs 3port... This will end in a rediculous fashion I expect.
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memory adding 3 starport now. upmagic adding his 2nd starport. upmagic trying to take the 12 centre nat. but memory's army just took out the SCV after walking around upmagic's huge tank line in the centre. lost his army to upmagic's tanks though. both players 3 port wraith now. upmagic adding a 4th port. memory taking both expos at 9 now. upmagic taking both expos at 12. upmagic scans memory's starports.
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On January 15 2008 18:47 -WGT-Stars- wrote:
How come in liquidbet its Sea.Up and ManiaMST? <,<
Well, just different nicknames. Upmagic sometimes goes by Sea.Up(magic) and TheManiaMST renamed himself to Memory.
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On January 15 2008 18:47 -WGT-Stars- wrote:
How come in liquidbet its Sea.Up and ManiaMST? <,<
because its their aka`s
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Upmagic's wraiths find a drop going for top left, kill the ship and the four goliaths while losing three of their number. Both now with a flock of wraiths.
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Hey Pangshai... what service provider are you using?
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Siegewars again at Memory's third base, but Up brings in additional tanks and holds the position. Memory suiciding SCVs in the middle, apparently he is maxed.
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Yay wraiths!
I prefer this to standard dull TvT
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Memory seems to lose every battle he enters, at the same time, his economical advantage is gone. He's on a slippery slope now.
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Upmagic 8 port triple armory. Do I have to understand this? Flock of wraiths descends on the bottom right expansion of Memory and breaks into, Memory uses the timing to kill some stuff in the middle of the map but isnt as successful.
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memory does a 4 gol drop into upmagic's 12 base that is seen by upmagic and he takes it out with wraith. upmagic with 6 starports now. he has massive tank turret lines everywhere. minor wraith confrontation and memory loses. memory sacrifices a whole bunch of SCVs. i don't know why, i don't think he's maxed out yet. 7 starports for upmagic. adding a 3rd armory. science facility is up for him. mass wraith take out all the SCVs at memory's nat. in the meantime memory tries to break upmagic's tank line in the centre, but fails as upmagic brings more tanks. 8 starports now.
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Man... how did Memory manage to max himself... he's hardly got an army at all.
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Yet another assault of Memory is killed by mass wraiths, which have 1-1 grades by now. Upmagic brings in the cavalry (tanks). This could be the finisher. Memory stopped mining at his third base and Upmagic is turreting up. If he holds that position he has free access to bottom left expoes.
edit: I was not sure that he was maxed, but he DID suicide those SCVs intentionally, as it looked.
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Memory lost all his wraiths, and probably the game. No one is smart enough to build a pair of valkyries as usual.
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Wraiths hitting critical mass for UpMagic. Mania is overwhelmed.
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Memory getting some addons for his starports and VALKYRIES.
edit: FPview shows four valkyries "prepared". Get raped by mass wraiths, Upmagic wins.
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On January 15 2008 18:55 Barbarne wrote:
Memory lost all his wraiths, and probably the game. No one is smart enough to build a pair of valkyries as usual.
Valks will die really fast to that much wraiths. You really don,t want a solid focus point.
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On January 15 2008 18:51 The Storyteller wrote:
Hey Pangshai... what service provider are you using?
singtel. and its only the 512kbps programme. not the mioplan or anything fancy.
upmagic's positioning on katrina is fantastic. he just took out another army of memory's that was defending his centre nat, and with the support of his wraiths he has tanks in firing range of the CC so it is forced to float. lost a number of wraiths in that attack though, but he's got 9 ports to replace them. memory adding control tower to all his starports, so i believe we'll be seeing valkyries in a pro game for the first time in ages. (like 2004ever when boxer got them vs oov on bifrost). but they won't help. upmagic's upgrades look like 2/2 already. and he's got probably 3 control groups. memory is mostly tank/vult now. upmagic flies his wraiths in and takes out all of memory's wraiths and valks. memory GGs.
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On January 15 2008 18:56 Aesop wrote:
Memory getting some addons for his starports and VALKYRIES.
Finally. They always seem to remember that unit a bit too late.
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Yay for Upmagic, hope he can keep going. This man has had a tough december, getting raped by Jaedong, Bisu and Sea.
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On January 15 2008 18:57 pangshai wrote:
memory adding control tower to all his starports, so i believe we'll be seeing valkyries in a pro game for the first time in ages. (like 2004ever when boxer got them vs oov on bifrost). but they won't help.
I've seen quite a bit of valkyries lately actually. There was this ODT/MSLro32 game between Sea and Light where Sea used about eight Valks to instant kill like forty wraiths in two seconds. GG followed directly after.
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Good game nonetheless. Katrina seems to be the perfect map for interesting TvT. Xellos Darkelf in ODT was awesome, FBH vs hwasin in MSLro32 was very intense too.
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On January 15 2008 19:00 Barbarne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 18:57 pangshai wrote:
memory adding control tower to all his starports, so i believe we'll be seeing valkyries in a pro game for the first time in ages. (like 2004ever when boxer got them vs oov on bifrost). but they won't help. I've seen quite a bit of valkyries lately actually. There was this ODT/MSLro32 game between Sea and Light where Sea used about eight Valks to instant kill like forty wraiths in two seconds. GG followed directly after.
oh. i must've missed that game cause i was pissed midas didn't qualify.
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There were also valks in the first game of the Light vs. Jaedong series in OSL Ro8. Basically they were the result of Light being totally unprepared for Jaedong's Mutalisks and a last ditch effort to hold. But there were valks!
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On January 15 2008 19:03 pangshai wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 19:00 Barbarne wrote:On January 15 2008 18:57 pangshai wrote:
memory adding control tower to all his starports, so i believe we'll be seeing valkyries in a pro game for the first time in ages. (like 2004ever when boxer got them vs oov on bifrost). but they won't help. I've seen quite a bit of valkyries lately actually. There was this ODT/MSLro32 game between Sea and Light where Sea used about eight Valks to instant kill like forty wraiths in two seconds. GG followed directly after. oh. i must've missed that game cause i was pissed midas didn't qualify.
Me too. Also, they're not that uncommon in Proleauge against mass mutalisks. Light also built two in his OSL ro8 game against Jaedong. I first saw them in a 2v2 in the begining of this season of proleague. I was hysterical, but I'm not anymore, since they've gotten much more common. Which is good. Proves that Starcraft is very well balanced. The only worthless unit is of course the scout.
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On January 15 2008 18:57 pangshai wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 18:51 The Storyteller wrote:
Hey Pangshai... what service provider are you using? singtel. and its only the 512kbps programme. not the mioplan or anything fancy.
I'm going to switch from Starhub, I swear.
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On January 15 2008 19:07 Barbarne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 19:03 pangshai wrote:On January 15 2008 19:00 Barbarne wrote:On January 15 2008 18:57 pangshai wrote:
memory adding control tower to all his starports, so i believe we'll be seeing valkyries in a pro game for the first time in ages. (like 2004ever when boxer got them vs oov on bifrost). but they won't help. I've seen quite a bit of valkyries lately actually. There was this ODT/MSLro32 game between Sea and Light where Sea used about eight Valks to instant kill like forty wraiths in two seconds. GG followed directly after. oh. i must've missed that game cause i was pissed midas didn't qualify. Me too. Also, they're not that uncommon in Proleauge against mass mutalisks. Light also built two in his OSL ro8 game against Jaedong. I first saw them in a 2v2 in the begining of this season of proleague. I was hysterical, but I'm not anymore, since they've gotten much more common. Which is good. Proves that Starcraft is very well balanced. The only worthless unit is of course the scout.
Do you remember 3 seasons ago when Bisu knocked Hwasin out of the MSL using scouts? That was the root of the Hwasin-Bisu big fights.
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red glasses are the new fashion in progaming
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Ready to go it seems! 5-4-3-2-1 fight! on blue storm, which has been a strong point for zerg so far. Sparkyz Zerg top right, GGterran at bottom left.
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Game starting on Blue Storm!
ForGG (red terran @ 7:30) vs. Luxury (teal zerg @ 1:30)
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On January 15 2008 19:09 Bazse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 19:07 Barbarne wrote:On January 15 2008 19:03 pangshai wrote:On January 15 2008 19:00 Barbarne wrote:On January 15 2008 18:57 pangshai wrote:
memory adding control tower to all his starports, so i believe we'll be seeing valkyries in a pro game for the first time in ages. (like 2004ever when boxer got them vs oov on bifrost). but they won't help. I've seen quite a bit of valkyries lately actually. There was this ODT/MSLro32 game between Sea and Light where Sea used about eight Valks to instant kill like forty wraiths in two seconds. GG followed directly after. oh. i must've missed that game cause i was pissed midas didn't qualify. Me too. Also, they're not that uncommon in Proleauge against mass mutalisks. Light also built two in his OSL ro8 game against Jaedong. I first saw them in a 2v2 in the begining of this season of proleague. I was hysterical, but I'm not anymore, since they've gotten much more common. Which is good. Proves that Starcraft is very well balanced. The only worthless unit is of course the scout. Do you remember 3 seasons ago when Bisu knocked Hwasin out of the MSL using scouts? That was the root of the Hwasin-Bisu big fights.
And Bisu's scouting scout against Nada on the first game ever on monty hall (racewars event).
... and Bisu's scout delaying exp for Midas in ODT/Survivor I think. Map was longinus.
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Started, damn I didn't know it was blue strom. That means forGG is fucked.
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On January 15 2008 19:09 The Storyteller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 18:57 pangshai wrote:On January 15 2008 18:51 The Storyteller wrote:
Hey Pangshai... what service provider are you using? singtel. and its only the 512kbps programme. not the mioplan or anything fancy. I'm going to switch from Starhub, I swear.
i hear starhub is affected by the usage of your whole block, if you stay in HDB/condo. maybe there's some guy on the other floor running a pornsite.
game on bluestorm.
luxury at 2
forgg at 8. walling with his first depot and rax.
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ForGG walling himself off and getting early gas. Maybe some cheese with wraiths coming? Luxury expanding and extractor before pool.
ForGG starting a quick factory at bottom right.
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ForGG decides to wall off and tech, 12hatch nat and gas before pool for Luxury. ForGG actually build s a proxy factory in the bottom right corner.
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forgg has TvP refinery timing, and he's started a factory at the bottom right (5) position. luxury going for 2 hatch lair. overlord from luxury has scouted the lack of a CC. factory getting vult. lair coming for lux. 4 lings out. he must be suspicious cause a scouting SCV has yet to reach his base.
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First vulture going in for the harass, 2 ports building in the main base. No defense against the vulture yet, which is hit-running zerglings right now. Lingspeed kicks in and the vultures get trapped. Spire going up for lux, more vultures going on the offensive and first two wraiths are heading up. GG's vulture micro steps up and he gets more zerglings this time. Looking pretty good for him.
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Yes, da good old Upmagic dual port build exclusively for blue storm! ForGG has a vult inside Lux's main, another incoming.
Both taken out. Wraiths incoming, Luxury has lair and Spire halfway done.
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CRAZY build. Proxy fact and then 2 starport from forGG. Amazing.
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Luxury gets out some mutascourge. Cloak upgrading for GG, but Lux has to do damage with his airforce now. Chasing the wraiths around while they cannot cloak yet. When cloak hits, mutas start running. Luxury is very low on economy. Gets down all wraiths besides 2 with scourge but loses his last mineral drone at his expansion.
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2 port wraith for forGG. 2 vults in luxury's main now. but mass lings with speed stop them with some casualties. knows about the 2 hatch tech now though. more vults take out more lings, and luxury is going to be forced on the defensive. 2 wraiths out for forGG and lux is losing overlords and drones. cloak coming for forGG. 3 mutas out. luxury's economy is quite weak, so those muta numbers wouldn't be increasing too quickly. mutas scourge chasing wraiths until cloak completes. forgg cloaks once the research is complete and takes out some mutas and scourge. now its 5 wraiths vs 2 muta. forgg adding 2rax and an academy.
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ForGG has 6 wraiths still but is getting academy and more raxx now, for a more standard approach. Luxury looks crippled.
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Another 2 vults doing a decent job harassing drones and killing lines, meanwhile wraiths hunting ovies down. Luxury is in a really bad position, he already had low drone count because of his 2 hatch build, and lost some more. ForGG has cloak researching, Luxury has mutas and scourges, after some air battles, ForGG still left with some wraiths, constantly replenishing them. Luxury barely has drones, ForGG doing the transition to mnm. If he doesn't fuck something up very much, i feel he'll wi nthe game easily (i feel my liquidbet slipping away).
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Wraiths bypassing the mutas and killing all drones and overlords at Lux's expansion. As LUx sees the MM force in GG's main he tabs out. Poor Liquibet, rest in peace. But damn slick by forGG.
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On January 15 2008 19:18 Barbarne wrote:
CRAZY build. Proxy fact and then 2 starport from forGG. Amazing.
Trademark upmagic.
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Nice play by ForGG!
My predictions are off now, but darn, what a play.
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forGG repairing his wraiths now. 7 wraiths for him. this game should be his unless he makes some major mistake. but basically he can lose all his wraiths now, dealing 0 damage, and still take the game. overlord speed is up for luxury. but he has just 3 mutas? after some minor confrontation between wraith and mutascourge, luxury flies his muta to forgg's main (maybe expecting an expo?), and in the meantime forgg takes out mass drones at his main and nat. luxury at forgg's main finds a marine medic group waiting 3 rax done, and a CC coming up, and he gives the GG.
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Wow, awsome game. Never expected this much from forGG. I just hope Lux can make it... I was sure he was going to win on blue storm.
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Well, that means we have a good chance of seeing 3 TvZ. Less TvT = yay.
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Actually i think this was the first time this build worked on blue storm, right?
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Go Upmagic now! Having a 1-1 match between Luxury and Upmagic would be heartbreaking for me. Rematch between Lux and ForGG should be good stuff.
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On January 15 2008 19:14 pangshai wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 19:09 The Storyteller wrote:On January 15 2008 18:57 pangshai wrote:On January 15 2008 18:51 The Storyteller wrote:
Hey Pangshai... what service provider are you using? singtel. and its only the 512kbps programme. not the mioplan or anything fancy. I'm going to switch from Starhub, I swear. i hear starhub is affected by the usage of your whole block, if you stay in HDB/condo. maybe there's some guy on the other floor running a pornsite.
That would explain why my pornsite is so slow.
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Holy crap that was fantastic play from ForGG
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wow that wondergirls ad is so hypnotic -.-
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On January 15 2008 19:24 BlackSphinx wrote:
Well, that means we have a good chance of seeing 3 TvZ. Less TvT = yay.
actually there's only possibility of 2 more TvZ. and that depends on luxury making it out of the losers game.
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man is there another way then gom tv? im getting UBER LAG
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On January 15 2008 19:30 GTR-2-Go wrote:
wow that wondergirls ad is so hypnotic -.-
they all look so slutty compared to the other group which looks innocent wholesome and pure.
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On January 15 2008 19:33 ejitoss wrote:
man is there another way then gom tv? im getting UBER LAG
There is sometimes a working stream on yaoyuan (www.yaoyuan.com/live.php) for which you previously have to install the TVants plugin. I have not tried yy today because GOM is working for me. Apart from this, there are many suitable guides on streaming questions (check this thread), so questions like this one are technically banned from live report threads.
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On January 15 2008 19:35 pangshai wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 19:30 GTR-2-Go wrote:
wow that wondergirls ad is so hypnotic -.- they all look so slutty compared to the other group which looks innocent wholesome and pure.
But you know they aren't. They probably had to do a 5girls one cup video to be in that group.
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actually if i remember correctly, yaoyuan has ceased broadcasting MBC games.
loki2
upmagic white terran at 7 (allied)
forgg teal terran at 1.
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Game starting on Loki II
Upmagic (yellow terran @ 8) vs. ForGG (blue terran @ 2)
9supply for both players.
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sry didnt know...but for what is worth i have alrdy read the faq XD
anyways
2 bad for luxury he made me lost so much minerals
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Upmagic expoing to the protected natural before his factory after seeing forGG going 1fac. ForGG building a starport as his fact finishes.
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lol my colours are totally wrong. hahahahahaha. standard play from both players. except upmagic started a very late refinery. factory started for forgg. upmagic takes his backnat after his late gas, then starts a late factory. forgg fac/port. still getting good scouting in upmagic's main. vulture out for him heading down to upmagic's. i'm surprised upmagic only got 1 rine.
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damn i just woke up, wanted to watch but forgot, whats the results now, im too lazy to skim through the pages ?
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upmagic lost 4 scvs and a rine to forgg's early vult. forgg getting expo now. machineshop and controltower added. wraith with cloak for forgg. upmagic looks like he's preparing to take his front nat now. 2 vults and an SCV in position. his rax in forgg's main scouts forgg's wraith tech.
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ForGG's vulture killing 4 scvs before it dies, it seems ForGG getting a wraith and cloak, Upmagic spots it with his floating rax. ForGG expoed to his protected secondary also, killing Up's barracks now. Upmagic tries to exploit the fact that ForGG still cannot have that much of a ground force, expoes to his fron neutral with only a few vultures on the ground.
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On January 15 2008 19:43 dragoonkf wrote:
damn i just woke up, wanted to watch but forgot, whats the results now, im too lazy to skim through the pages ?
Upmagic and ForGG won.
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ForGG is taking his front expo as well, while upmagic is adding a startport and replacing his barracks which he lost to a wraith when scouting. harassing wraiths interrupt the production of the starport for a moment. Besides towers upmagic doesnt look to have meaningful anti air.
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ForGG's wraiths arrive, doing virtually zero damage due to the turrets. Up mining the map up at various locations, ForGG expoing his front nat now, he has some tanks, but definetly behind economically. Up building a starport, but his scv is harassed Now he continues building it.
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Wow, upmagics ebay counter to the wraiths was really effective, but maybe it was because his vultures distracted him. Those wraiths did nothing. But the vulture got more than enought kills, so that's ok for GG.
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Thanks, man how did forGG won Luxury ? I don't remember forGG being THAT good in TvZ.
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upmagic > mania
forgg > luxury.
upmagicv s forgg playing now.
forgg back nat up. 2 wraith heading down to upmagic. upmagic has vult with mines. his front nat is up lol. still 2 fac cause he lost his rax in forgg's main. upmagic with mines at the paths between his base and forgg's base to prevent tank movement. wraiths trying to deal some damage in upmagic's main, but upmagic has turret, so wraith can't get much positioning. forgg has taken front base as well. now moving down with tanks and wraith. upmagic has siegemode done though. but forgg positioning where he can hit upmagic's nat gas.
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ForGG pushing out with some tanks, carefully walking with minesweeper marines in the front. He arrives to Up's front nat, and begins shelling the gas (his wraiths help in the spotting). Up repairs the refinery and constantly scans the wraiths. front nat refinery is down for Up, who is building dropships now (so as ForGG, who has a decent tankforce now.
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Tanks from ForGG are hitting upmagic's refinery at his natural from across the river. Pretty annoying position. Upmagic is expanding to the top of the map however, adding more factories in the meantime. ForGG starts moving out his tankforce.
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On January 15 2008 19:47 dragoonkf wrote:
Thanks, man how did forGG won Luxury ? I don't remember forGG being THAT good in TvZ.
He proxied one fac on bluestorm, during vulture harassment he added 2 ports and his wraiths raped enough overlords / drones to make Luxury gg.
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upmagic just lost his nat gas. but he's taking top left base now. he has 5 fac running. and 2 dropships out. forgg moving south with more tanks. actually he's just setting up in the centre of the map. taking the gas base at 3. upmagic does drop into forgg's back nat. kills a number of SCV before being taken out. upmagic now taking 9 gas base as well. 4 dropships moving out. they get caught by forgg's tank/gol moving out, but he drops his load and forces forgg to retreat. forgg now bringing tanks from the centre of the map to top left. after taking out upmagic's drop. upmagic getting many many expos. trying to take bottom 6 base as well. forgg makes a foray to take it out, but loses his army. 4 ship for forgg at upmagic's 9 base. loses his dropships to turretsbut gets mass tanks in position there. 9 base forced to float.
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So, dropship wars going on in everyone's favourite matchup. GG breaking into Upmagics forward expansion, supporting his drop by a large ground force, cancels mining there. UPmagic reinforcing that spot.
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Up doing a drop in ForGG's back nat, no huge damage done, few scvs lost, but now Up is on the offensive. Up has 4 dropships now, expoes twice, and tries to get another drop, but its intectepted by golies. Up succesfully saves the dropships. I feel ForGG has a much bigger army than Upmagic now, but Up is 1 expo ahead (building another one at 6). Up's expo @6 gets attacked by some golies and tanks, he loses the scv building it. ForGG now bruteforcing to Up's expo @9, due to superior forces, he manages to break the defence.
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Fairly successful drop in Up's main base, takes a long time to get eliminated, Up using scvs from mined out bases. Good position for GG, as he is supporting his tanks with some others which shoot over the canyon.
GG drops Up's 6 base while Up is advancing in his half of the map. Seems like the small blob at 9 base is still alive, but Up has reclaimed his main base. Shoots down 2 shuttles in the middle of the map. Who is that guy in the audience the camera zoomed on?
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Up with 6 dropships now, attacking ForGG's expo at 3. ForGG countering with a drop in Up's main, ferrying a lot of forces inside, while expoing to 12. Up tries to defend with scvs, losing A LOT of them, now returns with his dropships and secures his main.
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i don't know who's winning actually. upmagic has a small army, but many expansions. and has held them for a long period of time. forgg has a bigger army. but fewer expos. upmagic just took out 3 gas base. forgg now dropping into upmagic's main with 3 dropship. upmagic will bring back reinforcements to take out the drop. it has taken out mass SCVs at upmagic's main and back nat, but the drop is stopped, and forgg has lost his expo at 3. but upmagic's forces are spread very thin. he will lose the 6 base now. forgg in the meantime got 12 base up. upmagic has bottom right base. catches forgg's empty dropships in mid flight and takes all but 1 out.
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upmagic is chilling around with scvs but he still wins because of great unit positions and micro
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upmagic definitely with the advantage now. forgg has lost most of his army, dropships, and upmagic has more bases as well. forgg GGs after being forced to drop in a poor position, and loses his army and dropships to upmagic's spread out tanks/turrets/and dropped reinforcements. forGG very mannered. bows to upmagic.
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Erm, I was just pouring some tea and suddenly someone GGs out? Must have been forGG, right? edit: ok thanks for clarification, also Up smiling might have given me the hint .
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Up luckily intercepting ForGG's dropships, killing 4 of them!
He saves his expo in the bottom right corner. Up is in a strong position now, it looks like he's heading towards 12 now, which is barely defended. ForGG loses all his dropships now, he's without any forces, and only 1 real intake soon to be taken out. ForGG GGs and taps out, giving a respectful bow to Up, who advances with this win.
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I'm so happy! Upmagic tear through his group as if it was butter! Master of TvT!
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Very nice play by Up. Trading expansions after getting ahead in expos. He also played a lot better micro wise. I.e dropping goliaths first to shoot GGs dropships and such.
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i wonder how upmagic's stats are so shitty.
1v1 Record:
All: 43-50 (46.24%)
vT: 18-21 (46.15%)
vZ: 10-16 (38.46%)
vP: 15-13 (53.57%)
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On January 15 2008 19:59 Shauni wrote:
I'm so happy! Upmagic tear through his group as if it was butter! Master of TvT!
Yeah, TvT is definitely his best MU. Just like boxer.
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On January 15 2008 20:01 Barbarne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 19:59 Shauni wrote:
I'm so happy! Upmagic tear through his group as if it was butter! Master of TvT! Yeah, TvT is definitely his best MU. Just like boxer.
Boxer's strongest MU is 100% his tvz. Up's tvz is quite lacking though.
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On January 15 2008 19:38 Barbarne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 19:35 pangshai wrote:On January 15 2008 19:30 GTR-2-Go wrote:
wow that wondergirls ad is so hypnotic -.- they all look so slutty compared to the other group which looks innocent wholesome and pure. But you know they aren't. They probably had to do a 5girls one cup video to be in that group.
i think there're like 8 of them. and they're all hot.
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On January 15 2008 20:01 pangshai wrote:
i wonder how upmagic's stats are so shitty.
1v1 Record:
All: 43-50 (46.24%)
vT: 18-21 (46.15%)
vZ: 10-16 (38.46%)
vP: 15-13 (53.57%)
Coz he always somehow gets the tough group with tough dudes to play with, i mean cmon, after the OSL Jaedong Bisu, then Sea followed by some other guys that are so tough i forgotten. Same with HoGiL, his stats may look shitcrap but his play is actually decent and promising.
edit: thanks to all that took their time to live report this group, cheers :D!
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Yes! UpMagiC! GJ :-) Go Go Lux!
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On January 15 2008 20:01 pangshai wrote:
i wonder how upmagic's stats are so shitty.
You have to give it to him that since he stepped up his play (which correlates to his success in OSL), he has had a royal bunch of opponents, starting out with 0-3 against Jaedong.
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Shit i get this bad feeling, that Luxury will get 0-2'ed, Memory/Mania has decent TvZ to actually kick his ass !
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On January 15 2008 20:04 pangshai wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 19:38 Barbarne wrote:On January 15 2008 19:35 pangshai wrote:On January 15 2008 19:30 GTR-2-Go wrote:
wow that wondergirls ad is so hypnotic -.- they all look so slutty compared to the other group which looks innocent wholesome and pure. But you know they aren't. They probably had to do a 5girls one cup video to be in that group. i think there're like 8 of them. and they're all hot.
Yeah Korean girls are cute. The only "asian" girls I like, I think. Still, swedish girls are the hottest  .
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mania at 8
luxury at 2.
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Game starting on Loki II!
Memory(red terran @ 8) vs. Luxury (white zerg @ 2)
neither player is going to cheese.
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If Memory would do his awesome fake FE just like he did against july and lux would fall for it, I would be deeply dissapointed in lux.
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lux takes his front nat with 12 hatch. and sends 1 drones to explore at the same time. he'll see a 14cc by mania at his front nat. wow daring. i thought he'd at least expo to his back nat first.
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Lux putting his 12hatch to front nat, Memory actually 14 CCing, it is scouted by Lux's drone! Standard 11pool going up, Lux putting his 3rd hatch at his back nat.
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On January 15 2008 20:01 pangshai wrote:
i wonder how upmagic's stats are so shitty.
1v1 Record:
All: 43-50 (46.24%)
vT: 18-21 (46.15%)
vZ: 10-16 (38.46%)
vP: 15-13 (53.57%)
I don't think he was that good a couple of seasons back. It's only lately that he's been able to refine the raw talent he'd showed. He's also having to alter his playing style a lot as he plays in the individual leagues and eStro depends on him for Proleague. He can't think of weird ass strategies for everything because he's overworked.
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Hero drone! One expo for Memory, two for Lux. No starport proxy cheese.
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On January 15 2008 20:07 dragoonkf wrote:
Shit i get this bad feeling, that Luxury will get 0-2'ed, Memory/Mania has decent TvZ to actually kick his ass !
But I think Memory has been practising more for PL than MSL...
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drone blocking ramp for luxury. now lings out taking out mania's scouting SCV. sunken started at nat as well. academy coming for mania. lair and evo chamber for lux. it looks like he'll be doing the muta --> ultra build that zergs seem to favour these days. 3rd rax for forGG.
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Excitement building as Memory gets an academy and Lux a spire (*yawn*)
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SCV cannot get up Lux's ramp, Memory is making marines now, it looks like Lux decided not to attack the 14CC, he is whoring drones righ now, and teching to lair, putting 2 sunks down. Academy soon up for Memory, Evo completed at Lux's back nat. 3rd rax coming for Memory (i guess will be followed by an ebay, spire for Lux.
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i love how lux always ads a evo chamber before spire. I think more zergs should do that.
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spire started for lux, but mania has ebay started. he moves out with his mm army, but lux is going to get +2 sunken. they're late though. mania stims and moves in, forcing lux to pull his drones, and he loses a tonne of them to 2 firebats. not looking good for him. now mania can turtle with 3 base and move out with a huge army before ultra tech hits.
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Wow... very smart play by Memory. He forced Lux to get his drones out and then focused on eliminating them rather than the sunks. He's practically cleared Lux's expo out of drones.
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Memory tried breaking the sunkens, Lux pulled drones and lost a ton. Now mutas are out, slightly delayed, but should still be able to do decent sized damage, Another MMF group moving up, gets hit by muta fire and loses 2 rines. Lux going straight for queen's nest, so there might be straight ultras coming indeed.
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Memory actually done something really impressive. He fake-sparky terraned to the sunks pretending he's a noob with only 2 medics and without bats, and when Lux pulled his drones off (since he only had 2 lings at all), he came in with the bats and massacred a good number of drones. Mutas up for Lux though. Even if my liquidbet can go on it, I wouldn't be sad if memory would make it through this match i liked this fake-fake-sparky terran.
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Mutas take out the gros of the terran attack force. But Memory is doing a good job keeping Lux's mutas busy, so far no economic damage has been done to him. He is also getting a vessel. Very solid play by him.
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luxry has 4 sunkens at his nat now. mania moved out with a pretty big mm army, but he lost it all to luxury's muta micro. lux getting hive now. mania has 5 hatch and science facility up. he has replaced most of his drones as well. started a second evo for melee.
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Lux delaying Memory's mnm force with some mutamicro, now going for some harass, trying to get a sneaky expo at the top left, but gets spotted. Now looks killing one of memory's ebays, this can be critical when the ultras come. It seems Lux has more mutas than expected, now attacking the second ebay. Memory is forced to move his forces back.
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On January 15 2008 20:11 Barbarne wrote:
If Memory would do his awesome fake FE just like he did against july and lux would fall for it, I would be deeply dissapointed in lux.
Umm im not sure, but i DO remember it was the awesome tvp dodger, tvz art player Casy Aka iOi[Alive]/Really[Alive] who did the fake fe to july right ?
Anyway, sounds from the live report that Luxury seems to be losing ? Keep going pangshai, always love your live reports !
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Muta harass still going on, ultra cavern done. Memory has to recall his forward marine group as his defense marines got raped by mutas. Lux keeping himself in the game somehow, although the ball IS building up. He needs more time still. Drop by Memory on the backdoor expo, gets down one of the evo chambers there and nearly the second, until ultras kill the drop. Terran now with decently sized blob.
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On January 15 2008 20:20 dragoonkf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 20:11 Barbarne wrote:
If Memory would do his awesome fake FE just like he did against july and lux would fall for it, I would be deeply dissapointed in lux. Umm im not sure, but i DO remember it was the awesome tvp dodger, tvz art player Casy Aka iOi[Alive]/Really[Alive] who did the fake fe to july right ? Anyway, sounds from the live report that Luxury seems to be losing ? Keep going pangshai, always love your live reports !
Then you should have watched the last season of MSL where July was eliminated by Memory on this map.
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Brilliant by Memory again!, dropping in the back Nat, killing 1 evo, the other barely survives. Replyingexcellently. Lux has ultras now, his expo in the bottom right is dropped and killed, he manages to save his evo again. Ultras stopping the construction of Memory's back nat. Memory in a comfortable position now. Lux getting pure ultra? LOLWTF
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I would rather say Lux is consolidating himself. Mutas find a 9 oclock expansion attempt but cannot stop it, ultras are building now. Terran move might be too late overall, as zerg forces are massing. Some backdoor ultras hit memory's natural, sneaky scourge get 2 vessels and the ulras are going mad right there.
Ultras are finally disposed of, drop finds top left expansion attempt by lux, kills the hatch just as reinforcements arrive.
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ultra cavern has started for luxury. his muta micro is doing a lot of damage. memory just lost a control group of marines in his main to the muta micro of luxury. i believe luxury should be at advantage now. oh but mania does drop on his evos and he'll take them out. so luxury won't have the upgrade advantage. pity, evo upgrading carapace still alive. probably double digit hp. mania drops luxury's bottom right base, and its down. i believe the upgrades on the ultralisks are 4/1. mania moving out with a sizable marine medic army now. lux with about 7-8 ultras out to defend. this battle will be crucial. winner of this battle will take the game. mass ultralisks move to mania's nat and a couple get taken out. the rest are damaged. mania with back nat up. i don't know why lux did that attack. dropship moving out to prevent a fourth gas from lux, taking out the top left expo now.
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On January 15 2008 20:20 dragoonkf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 20:11 Barbarne wrote:
If Memory would do his awesome fake FE just like he did against july and lux would fall for it, I would be deeply dissapointed in lux. Umm im not sure, but i DO remember it was the awesome tvp dodger, tvz art player Casy Aka iOi[Alive]/Really[Alive] who did the fake fe to july right ? Anyway, sounds from the live report that Luxury seems to be losing ? Keep going pangshai, always love your live reports !
Poor July got it from Memory as well. He faked a one rax CC when he had hidden two more raxes somewhere.
Memory is actually a really talented player, and he has the kind of mind (and time!) to come up with great strategies. He just needs to steady his nerves.
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Pure ultra ling, no defiler. This should get owned by the vessels in the long run, Memory has 4 of them atm.
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Lux attacking Memory's main, buying some time and taking out 2 (was that 3?) vessels, he built a hatchery in the top left corner, but it gets dropped and taken out. Lux scourging Memory's dropship. Memory using his 3 gas to pump a lot of vessels and tanks in the same time. He is doing a decent job keeping the zerg gas count low, running around, killing expoes. Losing a vessel carelessly. Lux has massed a big ultraling army meanwhile, he pincers Memory's mnmntanknvessel army from 2 sides, and completely wipes it out.
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What a battle! Terran force gets flanked by ultraling, irradiate only helps at the beginning, but the terrans are slaughtered. Bottom right is saved by some ultras and lings. Game in the hands of lux now.
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nice reports guys! cheers!
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Luxury is so awesome. Memory has 0 vessels right now...
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Wow... Ultralisk sandwich.
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luxury has taken bottom right though, and he's taking the 12 expo as well. mania really needs to do something with his army. he's just moving around centre, being undecided. bottom right is up for lux. he's got a pretty big ultraling army flanks the terran army and will take it all out. drop on bottom right unsuccessful. taken out by 2 ultras. now lux has bottom right, top left, 12 base and thats a total of 6 gas. moving down to mania's nat now. losing many ultras. but hell replace those easily. mania's army is dead. mania drop on top left, but it fails to take out the expo as well.
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On January 15 2008 20:27 Elsi wrote:
nice reports guys! cheers!
Yeah great reports, thanks a lot.
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Cows stampeding into terran natural, but get taken down eventually. Yet by now it is only stalling for time for Memory, Luxury has the map.
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Haha cool i see, guessed i missed the games, but i bet 90% of Tl.Net voted for luxury right? To see him get 0-2'ed kinda sux Guess that is this year's MSL curse. Actually, what memory needs to do now is actually buff up his TvT and TvP, his TvZ is actually top notch imo, another CJ quality player to win the starleague ~!
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lux taking the 3 gas base now. he does another attack into mania's nat. loses all his ultralisks. mania pulls a nice defensive matrix. but in the meantime. an ultra and a ling at the 9 gas base forces it to float. more ultras and lings at the 6 base forces that to float as well.
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Memory constantly losing vessels, now he is fighting with scvs against Ultras. Luxurys expoes at 12 and in the bottom right are up for quite a long time now, he has 6 gas (probably his main and back nat is depleted by now), and he's pumping ultras like crazy. Memory losing his last vessels, now he's barely hanging in the game, he needs an expo, but gets denied every single time. I'm not impressed by Memory's play anymore.
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On January 15 2008 20:25 The Storyteller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 20:20 dragoonkf wrote:On January 15 2008 20:11 Barbarne wrote:
If Memory would do his awesome fake FE just like he did against july and lux would fall for it, I would be deeply dissapointed in lux. Umm im not sure, but i DO remember it was the awesome tvp dodger, tvz art player Casy Aka iOi[Alive]/Really[Alive] who did the fake fe to july right ? Anyway, sounds from the live report that Luxury seems to be losing ? Keep going pangshai, always love your live reports ! Poor July got it from Memory as well. He faked a one rax CC when he had hidden two more raxes somewhere. Memory is actually a really talented player, and he has the kind of mind (and time!) to come up with great strategies. He just needs to steady his nerves.
hehe, i watched your documentary again and i noticed some faces that wouldn't have been recognised back then.
kwanro and mania :D
also he was drinking coke instead of soju lool
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defiler mound up for luxury. its obvious he has a lot of gas. mass ultras dying and getting replaced all the time. mass scourge for luxury as well. mania's vessels basically don't even get an irradiate or a defensive matrix down before they die. mania GGs after being unable to establish his 6 or 9 expo.
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On January 15 2008 20:29 dragoonkf wrote:Haha cool i see, guessed i missed the games, but i bet 90% of Tl.Net voted for luxury right? To see him get 0-2'ed kinda sux Guess that is this year's MSL curse.
what? did I miss the game already being over? My player just lagged around, but it looked like Luxury was taking this.
edit: phew, ok, Luxury didnt throw it. But this firebat hiding move could have really tipped the scales. Good he consoled himself. What I noticed was abysmal scourge dodging by Memory, his vessels died so easily to the scourge Luxury threw at him, thus he could never really combat the ultra-masses.
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Memory losing all his vessels again. And again. His newly build/floated or whatever expoes are getting raped by Ultras, while Lux still has a lot of bases, Memory GGs and taps out. Lux got himself together by the end of the midgame. Memory is out of this MSL.
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Awesome play by Lux. Despite losing like four hatcheries to drops he kept himself in the game by using scourges perfectly against the vessels.
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Damn I have to go! Lux please take the last game!
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Memory's games often follow the same pattern. A brilliant opening followed by play that goes steadily downhill, probably because of nerves leading to worse and worse multitasking. If he could pull himself together, he would have easily got past Mind in the last MSL.
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I don't know if there is one player who has qualified for both MSL and OSL yet. Unless I've forgotten someone, Lux might be the first.
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On January 15 2008 20:34 The Storyteller wrote:
Memory's games often follow the same pattern. A brilliant opening followed by play that goes steadily downhill, probably because of nerves leading to worse and worse multitasking. If he could pull himself together, he would have easily got past Mind in the last MSL.
Yes, he played very well in early and early-mid game and then his play has fallen apart. His vessel handling was quite shitty.
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distracted that game, so the reports were rather shoddy, but basically luxury came back from his disadvantage because of his muta harass. in my opinion, mania made the mistake of moving out into the centre of the map (possibly to stop a 4th gas from going up), instead of just turtling vs the mutas, expoing to his back nat, getting good upgrades to match those of the zerg, and getting irradiate to take out the mutas.
because he moved out, and because of poor micro, the mutas were able to kill off many many small groups of medicless armies, delay the expo at the backnat, and even snipe off half the army that mania moved out with. so instead of moving out with possibly a 100 supply army of upgraded marine medic with vessel support and good upgrades, he moved out with a small army that got raped by ultraling.
mania did make some good drops though, taking out 1 evo chamber, and almost taking out the second one (1-2 squares of hp left on it). drops also stopped luxury's 4th gases for a while, but eventually they became ineffective as luxury's army mobility + growing economy meant that he could afford scourges and spare lings/ultra to take them out.
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On January 15 2008 20:36 Barbarne wrote:
I don't know if there is one player who has qualified for both MSL and OSL yet. Unless I've forgotten someone, Lux might be the first.
Jaedong? Mebbe?
edit: July too, of course.
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On January 15 2008 20:37 pangshai wrote:
distracted that game, so the reports were rather shoddy, but basically luxury came back from his disadvantage because of his muta harass. in my opinion, mania made the mistake of moving out into the centre of the map (possibly to stop a 4th gas from going up), instead of just turtling vs the mutas, expoing to his back nat, getting good upgrades to match those of the zerg, and getting irradiate to take out the mutas.
because he moved out, and because of poor micro, the mutas were able to kill off many many small groups of medicless armies, delay the expo at the backnat, and even snipe off half the army that mania moved out with. so instead of moving out with possibly a 100 supply army of upgraded marine medic with vessel support and good upgrades, he moved out with a small army that got raped by ultraling.
mania did make some good drops though, taking out 1 evo chamber, and almost taking out the second one (1-2 squares of hp left on it). drops also stopped luxury's 4th gases for a while, but eventually they became ineffective as luxury's army mobility + growing economy meant that he could afford scourges and spare lings/ultra to take them out.
Agreed, the turning point was the mutaharass, although after that Memory still played well the 1, almost 2 evo taken out and the constant drops on Lux's expoes were pretty nice too. I felt Memory was going to win then.
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On January 15 2008 20:40 Liquid`Daaman wrote:
July?!
Well yeah. 2nd in MSL group B and he has been placed in OSL group C. Jaedong was 1st in his MSL group and is of course in OSL group A.
edit#13349: Sea is in as well.
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On January 15 2008 20:37 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 20:36 Barbarne wrote:
I don't know if there is one player who has qualified for both MSL and OSL yet. Unless I've forgotten someone, Lux might be the first. Jaedong? Mebbe? edit: July too, of course.
Im not sure, i remember july usually qualifies for both starleague together, so it couldnt be his first ?
Maybe Jaedong and Luxury are though. Cheers again to live reports by Aesop,Pangshai and Basze, thanks !
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luxury at 9. overlord going the wrong way to 12.
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Game starting on Zodiac!
Luxury (brown zerg @ 9) seeking for revenge vs. ForGG (yellow terran @ 6)
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luxury scouting with his 9th drone. he suspects cheese? he sends his drone first to 6 and he'll find forgg immediately. forgg playing no so standard. depot rax refinery. TvP style. drone harassing the rax building scv. lux with 12 hatch at nat 11pool 10 gas.
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On January 15 2008 20:44 dragoonkf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2008 20:37 Aesop wrote:On January 15 2008 20:36 Barbarne wrote:
I don't know if there is one player who has qualified for both MSL and OSL yet. Unless I've forgotten someone, Lux might be the first. Jaedong? Mebbe? edit: July too, of course. Im not sure, i remember july usually qualifies for both starleague together, so it couldnt be his first ? Maybe Jaedong and Luxury are though. Cheers again to live reports by Aesop,Pangshai and Basze, thanks !
I understood the remark as asking if anyone had qualified for the group stage of Bacchus OSL AND for the single elimination of GOM TV 4 MSL yet. And there the answer is: yes, July, Sea and Jaedong.
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ForGG going for gas after rax. quick fact, vult, and expo. Quite awkward build if you ask me on this map, Lux already has a sunk down near his nat hatch.
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forgg starts a fac despite luxury scouting it. i don't think he's going to do as well this game, since luxury knows that a tech build is coming. 2 hatch lair for luxury, lair just started for him. fac started for forgg. it looks like he'll expo now. 6 ling and a sunken coming for luxury. vulture out for forgg. moving towards lux. butlux has sunken and a line of lings blocking a run past into his main. expo started for forgg. spire for lux. 2nd rax for forgg.
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Oh fuck, 2hatch muta, this might go either way now...
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ForGG upgrading something in his machine shop while getting more vults, he is adding another rax too and ebay begins, but the spire is already up! Mutas hatching. I dont really see what ForGG planned against the mutas.
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2nd sunken for lux. 3rd vult out for forgg. his machineshop is doing some research. vult speed for forgg. but he'll be unable to get into the main of luxury cause a hydra den is blocking the way. mutas are out and forgg's turrets are late. not looking good for him. forgg losing many SCVs in his main to muta harass about 10 SCVs down already. and more dying. hahahahaha. this game is over already. except maybe forgg can work on his tech advantage.
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ForGG's turrets are a little bit late, Lux kills of marines and scvs, now wreaking havoc all aroung forGG's mineral line who finally has medics and stim. ForGG lost a lot of scvs, and he still only has about 8 marines. Lux is harassing with mutas constantly, egaging marines, All rines die, ForGG GGs. Lux advances to the Ro16.
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Oh, that was great! Two lings win the game for Lux while his mutas pin the marines in place.
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Stupid forGG. You can't do a stupid build in a fifth game. Didn't he see Yarnc NaDa?
I'm such a Luxury fanboy. I hope he dominates shitloads of crap. Who's that he's facing in ro16? I heard Jaedong's name... That would be AWESOME. The best ZvZ series ever.
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Yes! 3/4
Voted Lux>forGG 2nd game. T_T
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lings now at forgg's nat killing turrets while luxury's mutas prevent the marine medic from going down the ramp to save them. forgg decides to engage mass mutas with his marinemedic anyway and loses them all. he GGs. poorly played by forGG. he scouted the 2 hatch lair, but still didn't get turrets up in time. the vultures were a waste of minerals and he should have known not to continue with them (they wouldn't have done anything unless luxury screwed up). just expo with 1 vult and get a ebay + 2rax mm and it'd have been different.
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That was an exciting game for me - GOM lags, restarting stream, watching ads. Then the game is over. But I am happy that Luxury advances and saves me a 3/4 liquibet.
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On January 15 2008 20:53 GTR-2-Go wrote:
rofl poor lux has to do it with ljd.
Lux will own him (please god/allah/buddha!).
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Hungary11291 Posts
On January 15 2008 20:53 GTR-2-Go wrote:
rofl poor lux has to do it with ljd.
Are the brackets posted anywhere yet? My korean is a bit ... nonexistant. So I could not make out who is playing who and who is in who's bracket.
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Yea 3/4 for almost every 1 too i guess, Luxury vs LJD.... wow epic zvz of the year ! If luxury wins, no 1 is stopping him ! (except toss)
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Valhalla18444 Posts
ahahahahahah
lux can mutamicro someone to death no matter HOW sweaty his hands are. he must have wiped his hands on his clothing fifteen times that game
wipe wipe wipe micro micro micro GAME OVER
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3/4 voted forGG getting through. my liquibet is actually doing pretty well despite my retarded bets. ie. ruby > savior. anytime > kal. kal and savior qualify. that got 3/4.
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On January 15 2008 20:55 Aesop wrote:
That was an exciting game for me - GOM lags, restarting stream, watching ads. Then the game is over. But I am happy that Luxury advances and saves me a 3/4 liquibet.
same here
I got the forGG > lux but thought memory will take over upmagic in the first game ...
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On January 15 2008 20:56 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
ahahahahahah
lux can mutamicro someone to death no matter HOW sweaty his hands are. he must have wiped his hands on his clothing fifteen times that game
wipe wipe wipe micro micro micro GAME OVER
jaedong, yarnc and lux have the most deadliest muta micro in the scene now, as for july, as much as i love him, his muta micro is on-off depending on his mood( or filled belly).
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Hungary11291 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [results] +
Upmagic > Memory
ForGG > Luxury
Upmagic > ForGG (Upmagic advances)
Luxury > Memory
Luxury > ForGG (Luxury advances)
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is awesome32274 Posts
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On January 15 2008 20:53 GTR-2-Go wrote:
rofl poor lux has to do it with ljd.
r u sure? God that sucks like hell.
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oooh lux has a winning record vs. jaedong
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Hungary11291 Posts
On January 15 2008 21:12 kramus wrote:
oooh lux has a winning record vs. jaedong
stork was 2-0 against LJD before OSL finals. Go figure
On another note: Could anyone please sum up what is already known about the MSL brackets? They displayed them during the broadcast but I could not figure out who is who.
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On January 15 2008 21:03 Aesop wrote:+ Show Spoiler [results] +
Upmagic > Memory
ForGG > Luxury
Upmagic > ForGG (Upmagic advances)
Luxury > Memory
Luxury > ForGG (Luxury advances)
I kinda saw that coming.
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...and there goes the next seed.
Not that i would miss memory. He is the seed i will miss at very last.
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so what's happened, can someone give a small update maybe please? :|
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i would rate luxury as the best zvz in pro scene. ask any of the OGN members and they will tell you the same.
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Hungary11291 Posts
On January 15 2008 21:29 SayGG wrote:
...and there goes the next seed.
I had not looked at it like that so far, but you are right: From eight seeds only one (Mind) has qualified, four (Bisu, Xellos, Savior, Memory) are out and three (Kwanro, Free, Nal_Ra) are still upcoming. And I cannot say that the three remaining seeds are the cream of the crop, they have hard groups to fight.
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On January 15 2008 21:44 Aesop wrote:I had not looked at it like that so far, but you are right: From eight seeds only one (Mind) has qualified, four (Bisu, Xellos, Savior, Memory) are out and three (Kwanro, Free, Nal_Ra) are still upcoming. And I cannot say that the three remaining seeds are the cream of the crop, they have hard groups to fight.
Free will definitely make it , i believe in him, the last 2 msl(i think?) he was elminated by savior in ro16 and ro8, i believe without savior, he may be able to get to finals or even win the starleague.
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On January 15 2008 21:03 Aesop wrote:+ Show Spoiler [results] +
Upmagic > Memory
ForGG > Luxury
Upmagic > ForGG (Upmagic advances)
Luxury > Memory
Luxury > ForGG (Luxury advances)
tyyyy
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Melbourne5338 Posts
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
thank aesop for the reuslts
SUNYVEIL DIE DIE DIE U DIDNT UPDATE >:0
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On January 15 2008 22:32 alffla wrote:
thank aesop for the reuslts
SUNYVEIL DIE DIE DIE U DIDNT UPDATE >:0
gtfo
my alarm didn't go off
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Hungary11291 Posts
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I guess memory has less than 10% winrate vs T
Thats pretty amazing
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United States10774 Posts
Wow Lux impressive lately ;D
still rooting for Hwasin
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thank god up and lux made it, they were by far my favorit players of that group.
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Oh God, Luxury vs. Jaedong. The one player who has the highest chance of knocking Jaedong out of the tournament.
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fucking fuck yes. lux and upmagic. 4/4
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Ooh my first 4/4 in a while.
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YES! Up and Lux! I'm a happy puppy :-)
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Fuck! Luxury just HAD to drop a game! This is not good. Lux is 25-12 in zvz, I am really worried for Jaedong.
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BaeZZi
Korea (North)116 Posts
Game 1 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6YMsKoQx3c
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BaeZZi
Korea (North)116 Posts
Game 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46R8KxFwVJU
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BaeZZi
Korea (North)116 Posts
Game 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap5KpMk4mqo
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BaeZZi
Korea (North)116 Posts
Game 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2IWlpvPrbg
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BaeZZi
Korea (North)116 Posts
Game 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a09qLmPL7V4
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UpMagiC vs July? Aw hell no
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On January 16 2008 04:04 TheTyranid wrote:
Fuck! Luxury just HAD to drop a game! This is not good. Lux is 25-12 in zvz, I am really worried for Jaedong.
well jd is anything but weak zvz and still the osl winner and favourite in this match
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On January 16 2008 05:57 amorpheus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2008 04:04 TheTyranid wrote:
Fuck! Luxury just HAD to drop a game! This is not good. Lux is 25-12 in zvz, I am really worried for Jaedong. well jd is anything but weak zvz and still the osl winner and favourite in this match
I think it's because of the people qualified for the Ro16, Luxury probably has the best chance of taking Jaedong down, and a Bo3 makes luck a bigger factor in the decision
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
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Hoping for a Jaedong Hwasin meeting in the ro8. Bracket shaping up nicely I guess even with 4/5 seeds being knocked out.
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On January 16 2008 06:27 Sunyveil wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2008 05:57 amorpheus wrote:On January 16 2008 04:04 TheTyranid wrote:
Fuck! Luxury just HAD to drop a game! This is not good. Lux is 25-12 in zvz, I am really worried for Jaedong. well jd is anything but weak zvz and still the osl winner and favourite in this match I think it's because of the people qualified for the Ro16, Luxury probably has the best chance of taking Jaedong down, and a Bo3 makes luck a bigger factor in the decision
How does a Bo3 make luck a BIGGER factor? If anything, I think luck would be a smaller and smaller deciding factor as the number of games needed to win increases. Right? 
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I seriously love when gamers show respect, even if it's something as small as Luxury giving ForGG a bow after their two matches.
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On January 16 2008 08:36 Xusneb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2008 06:27 Sunyveil wrote:On January 16 2008 05:57 amorpheus wrote:On January 16 2008 04:04 TheTyranid wrote:
Fuck! Luxury just HAD to drop a game! This is not good. Lux is 25-12 in zvz, I am really worried for Jaedong. well jd is anything but weak zvz and still the osl winner and favourite in this match I think it's because of the people qualified for the Ro16, Luxury probably has the best chance of taking Jaedong down, and a Bo3 makes luck a bigger factor in the decision How does a Bo3 make luck a BIGGER factor? If anything, I think luck would be a smaller and smaller deciding factor as the number of games needed to win increases. Right? i think he means relative to a bo5
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Up played some sexy TvT there. 
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On January 16 2008 09:53 KizZBG wrote:Up is sexy I want his babies
Made that a bit more accurate
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NICE!!! at least one of the OGN Zerg brothers made it to Ro16...
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SHIT
lux vs jaedong...
love both... and both have super killer ZvZ
lux is up 2:1 vs jaedong though historically
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If i can get a bo5 against hwasin and jaedong i will die happy
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