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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3035 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-27 10:40:31
September 27 2025 09:58 GMT
#321
I agree, Snow sucks.
More like, who will stop Mini next season now that he's in 4:3 and plays Mario Kart all day. He's gonna have sloppy joe face after eating everyone's guts, and start burping fireballs after 3-0s and 4-0s over Flash and Soulkey, maybe but probably not dropping 1-2 maps to soma on his vertical path.
Honestly, who cares about this season anymore. It's soma 4-2 over snow in the finals. I'm more interested in the seeded Barracks thinking he's amazing, but is actually like a british soldier from Braveheart, overdressed, shitting his pants, his dumb nose bridge helmet all crooked and fucked up as the broad sword comes in. Just butttclapped by Yabsab or some shit, or roundhouse kicked by TEOLBO. Just zapped the fuck out. Fizzle-fucked. Barracks goes home crying and his overly-energetic fanbase flows home on a river of fucking tears. This domestic cheese is out of stock.
I got my L'Amour tickets and my bon-bon money rdy to witness it first hand. A polaroid selfie pretending to be his biggest fan and then just ball it up right in front of him, right before getting unpeacefully escorted from the studio, not using my feet at all so the squeaks are extra loud.
RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
109 Posts
September 27 2025 14:24 GMT
#322
On September 27 2025 18:58 RogerChillingworth wrote:
I agree, Snow sucks.
More like, who will stop Mini next season now that he's in 4:3 and plays Mario Kart all day. He's gonna have sloppy joe face after eating everyone's guts, and start burping fireballs after 3-0s and 4-0s over Flash and Soulkey, maybe but probably not dropping 1-2 maps to soma on his vertical path.
Honestly, who cares about this season anymore. It's soma 4-2 over snow in the finals. I'm more interested in the seeded Barracks thinking he's amazing, but is actually like a british soldier from Braveheart, overdressed, shitting his pants, his dumb nose bridge helmet all crooked and fucked up as the broad sword comes in. Just butttclapped by Yabsab or some shit, or roundhouse kicked by TEOLBO. Just zapped the fuck out. Fizzle-fucked. Barracks goes home crying and his overly-energetic fanbase flows home on a river of fucking tears. This domestic cheese is out of stock.
I got my L'Amour tickets and my bon-bon money rdy to witness it first hand. A polaroid selfie pretending to be his biggest fan and then just ball it up right in front of him, right before getting unpeacefully escorted from the studio, not using my feet at all so the squeaks are extra loud.

Drugs are bad.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands971 Posts
September 27 2025 14:28 GMT
#323
On September 27 2025 23:24 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2025 18:58 RogerChillingworth wrote:
I agree, Snow sucks.
More like, who will stop Mini next season now that he's in 4:3 and plays Mario Kart all day. He's gonna have sloppy joe face after eating everyone's guts, and start burping fireballs after 3-0s and 4-0s over Flash and Soulkey, maybe but probably not dropping 1-2 maps to soma on his vertical path.
Honestly, who cares about this season anymore. It's soma 4-2 over snow in the finals. I'm more interested in the seeded Barracks thinking he's amazing, but is actually like a british soldier from Braveheart, overdressed, shitting his pants, his dumb nose bridge helmet all crooked and fucked up as the broad sword comes in. Just butttclapped by Yabsab or some shit, or roundhouse kicked by TEOLBO. Just zapped the fuck out. Fizzle-fucked. Barracks goes home crying and his overly-energetic fanbase flows home on a river of fucking tears. This domestic cheese is out of stock.
I got my L'Amour tickets and my bon-bon money rdy to witness it first hand. A polaroid selfie pretending to be his biggest fan and then just ball it up right in front of him, right before getting unpeacefully escorted from the studio, not using my feet at all so the squeaks are extra loud.

Drugs are bad.



When educating them kids at school about why drugs are bad, show them this post.
JDON MY SOUL!
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States899 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-27 19:12:22
September 27 2025 19:10 GMT
#324
On September 27 2025 09:02 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
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On September 27 2025 05:38 TMNT wrote:
Soma in September in Proleague is at 66% overall and 90% ZvP lol. He might actually be better now than Soulkey was when he won the last ASL.

For a while Zerg fans were claiming Zerg was bad and it was just Soulkey, but that's only because Soma was serving military service.

I can't speak to Proleague results, but from ASL's:
16 - 4 Zerg in the round of 8, 2 Zerg in the round of 4.
17 - 2 Zerg in the finals.
18 - 2 Zerg in the round of 8.
19 - 3 Zerg in the round of 8 including Queen who took finalist Best to 7 games.
20 - 3 Zerg in the round of 8.

Outside of Season 18, you cannot reasonably claim that Zerg under performed.



Honestly ASL is important but pros don't really seem to emphasize its importance that much when most of their earnings come from proleague. We shouldn't look at asl results to see who is the best. It's more about bo5 matches (10%), bo9 matches (15%), Proleague (40%), ASL (20%), and KCM league (15%) most likely.

Flash said basically this:

"Proleague is by far the most important indicator who is the best nowadays"
Life is just life
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey466 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-27 19:42:42
September 27 2025 19:42 GMT
#325
On September 28 2025 04:10 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2025 09:02 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
On September 27 2025 05:38 TMNT wrote:
Soma in September in Proleague is at 66% overall and 90% ZvP lol. He might actually be better now than Soulkey was when he won the last ASL.

For a while Zerg fans were claiming Zerg was bad and it was just Soulkey, but that's only because Soma was serving military service.

I can't speak to Proleague results, but from ASL's:
16 - 4 Zerg in the round of 8, 2 Zerg in the round of 4.
17 - 2 Zerg in the finals.
18 - 2 Zerg in the round of 8.
19 - 3 Zerg in the round of 8 including Queen who took finalist Best to 7 games.
20 - 3 Zerg in the round of 8.

Outside of Season 18, you cannot reasonably claim that Zerg under performed.



Honestly ASL is important but pros don't really seem to emphasize its importance that much when most of their earnings come from proleague. We shouldn't look at asl results to see who is the best. It's more about bo5 matches (10%), bo9 matches (15%), Proleague (40%), ASL (20%), and KCM league (15%) most likely.

Flash said basically this:

"Proleague is by far the most important indicator who is the best nowadays"

Why isn't he up to current meta then? The question remains if proleague games are playing meta games or off meta games. I say they are off meta. No one plays nonstarter builds based on looking at the opponent's last played game. That is just not how professional gameplay is conducted. We saw Hero do these one off plays vs JyJ, while it may seem it proves successful in the immediate term, look where he is now. I say all proleague players who go off meta start to lose their preparation. I made a more in depth explanation before that I won't repeat, proleague is just brain rot.
Turrican
RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
109 Posts
September 28 2025 00:16 GMT
#326
On September 28 2025 04:10 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2025 09:02 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
On September 27 2025 05:38 TMNT wrote:
Soma in September in Proleague is at 66% overall and 90% ZvP lol. He might actually be better now than Soulkey was when he won the last ASL.

For a while Zerg fans were claiming Zerg was bad and it was just Soulkey, but that's only because Soma was serving military service.

I can't speak to Proleague results, but from ASL's:
16 - 4 Zerg in the round of 8, 2 Zerg in the round of 4.
17 - 2 Zerg in the finals.
18 - 2 Zerg in the round of 8.
19 - 3 Zerg in the round of 8 including Queen who took finalist Best to 7 games.
20 - 3 Zerg in the round of 8.

Outside of Season 18, you cannot reasonably claim that Zerg under performed.



Honestly ASL is important but pros don't really seem to emphasize its importance that much when most of their earnings come from proleague. We shouldn't look at asl results to see who is the best. It's more about bo5 matches (10%), bo9 matches (15%), Proleague (40%), ASL (20%), and KCM league (15%) most likely.

Flash said basically this:

"Proleague is by far the most important indicator who is the best nowadays"

I understand the importance of pro league to players, but I doubt fans who were whining about balance were basing it off a deep dive of pro league stats.

Flash's comments are also dubious. Success in a preparation tournament is a significantly better indicator of player quality for a real time STRATEGY game than one off games with no preparation.
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1693 Posts
September 28 2025 20:26 GMT
#327
On September 26 2025 23:03 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2025 16:20 Magic Powers wrote:
On September 26 2025 13:49 Timebon3s wrote:
Soma looks incredibly good. I wouldn’t think he could get so good so fast, but he’s really something else entirely imo.
If there’s gonna be a new Flash, soma is it imo.


I think the new Flash is gonna be Flash. He seems to be in the process of escaping the, uhm... "mediocrity" of being "just" a top five player xd


Flash is #1 player still. People put major proleague on a completely different stratosphere in terms of who is actually the best. The consistently best performers in major proleagues are as follows

1) Flash (by far)
2) Soma
3) Light
4) Rush
5) Bisu

Snow has been actually struggling atm


Nah Rain has performed better than 2,3,4, and 5
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Villainiquity
Profile Joined September 2025
1 Post
September 28 2025 21:36 GMT
#328
On September 23 2025 21:00 konadora wrote:
snow going for his 6th base as a toss while effort is still on 4 lol

Xun/Saiyan saying Snow fake-threaten attacking sim cities but expanded instead. I think it made effort turtle harder - but it's not like he can muster enough to snipe an expo anyways.
prion_
Profile Joined September 2022
77 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-28 22:55:26
September 28 2025 22:55 GMT
#329
On September 28 2025 04:10 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2025 09:02 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
On September 27 2025 05:38 TMNT wrote:
Soma in September in Proleague is at 66% overall and 90% ZvP lol. He might actually be better now than Soulkey was when he won the last ASL.

For a while Zerg fans were claiming Zerg was bad and it was just Soulkey, but that's only because Soma was serving military service.

I can't speak to Proleague results, but from ASL's:
16 - 4 Zerg in the round of 8, 2 Zerg in the round of 4.
17 - 2 Zerg in the finals.
18 - 2 Zerg in the round of 8.
19 - 3 Zerg in the round of 8 including Queen who took finalist Best to 7 games.
20 - 3 Zerg in the round of 8.

Outside of Season 18, you cannot reasonably claim that Zerg under performed.



Honestly ASL is important but pros don't really seem to emphasize its importance that much when most of their earnings come from proleague. We shouldn't look at asl results to see who is the best. It's more about bo5 matches (10%), bo9 matches (15%), Proleague (40%), ASL (20%), and KCM league (15%) most likely.

Flash said basically this:

"Proleague is by far the most important indicator who is the best nowadays"


Flash said this because he's performing well in Proleauge but has been skipping ASL. In the Kespa era proleague was a big deal with tons of preparation and pressure but these days it's a pickup match between guys playing in their pajamas at home.
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