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NoS-Craig
Australia3130 Posts
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prototype.
Canada4215 Posts
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LightSpectra
United States2440 Posts
On August 30 2025 11:29 NoS-Craig wrote: This has got to be one of the biggest upsets I've seen in ASL. I was totally expecting HerO to advance first. I'm surprised there isn't more discussion about this. herO at his best is about on par with Soulkey and probably had the best chance out of anyone this ASL to beat him. I'm not sure if he's fallen off, or everyone else has gotten better and outpaced him, or if it's just an unlucky year. | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey680 Posts
On August 30 2025 17:20 LightSpectra wrote: I'm surprised there isn't more discussion about this. herO at his best is about on par with Soulkey and probably had the best chance out of anyone this ASL to beat him. I'm not sure if he's fallen off, or everyone else has gotten better and outpaced him, or if it's just an unlucky year. On August 28 2025 22:21 mtcn77 wrote: You obviously know soulkey builds his impenetrable fortress around out of competition pros? Any titleholder in the defensive matrix can break the illusion any time. I say he is the reason Hero is performing so poorly since top competition is so different to prepare than the group stages. There, I said it. My take is he drinks and that is bad on nerves. PS: recently I came across some news that smelling roses is very good for the brain. Maybe he should pick up some better habits. | ||
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zutt0
11 Posts
On August 30 2025 17:20 LightSpectra wrote: I'm surprised there isn't more discussion about this. herO at his best is about on par with Soulkey and probably had the best chance out of anyone this ASL to beat him. I'm not sure if he's fallen off, or everyone else has gotten better and outpaced him, or if it's just an unlucky year. It looks to me like he's fallen off, especially in ZvT. Over the last 9 months, Hero has losing records against Sharp (2-8), Rush (35-61), Light (17-34), Royal (25-33), and Flash (11-14), he's about even with Mind (6-6) and Speed (6-4). He is beating Barracks (14-9) and JyJ (20-12), but even those aren't particularly decisive. Jaedong, for instance, is 28-11 against Barracks. He's looked liked the weakest ZvZer of the top Zergs for the last couple of seasons (for example, he's 2-9 against Queen). He's still very good against Protoss, but unfortunately for him that wasn't relevant in his group. | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey680 Posts
On August 31 2025 01:11 zutt0 wrote: It looks to me like he's fallen off, especially in ZvT. Over the last 9 months, Hero has losing records against Sharp (2-8), Rush (35-61), Light (17-34), Royal (25-33), and Flash (11-14), he's about even with Mind (6-6) and Speed (6-4). He is beating Barracks (14-9) and JyJ (20-12), but even those aren't particularly decisive. Jaedong, for instance, is 28-11 against Barracks. He's looked liked the weakest ZvZer of the top Zergs for the last couple of seasons (for example, he's 2-9 against Queen). He's still very good against Protoss, but unfortunately for him that wasn't relevant in his group. You'll jinx him. His ASL17 performance against Snow was very unfortunate. Snow cornered him against a corner on Deja Vu sending psionic storms against his drones across the reef. It was a very cheesy move by Snow. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11077 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13365 Posts
Edit: tomorrow it seems | ||
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goody153
44255 Posts
What the hell was that | ||
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goody153
44255 Posts
On August 31 2025 10:08 Sabu113 wrote: What happened to HerO lol. What a group. Actually really enjoyed how volatile it was. Absolutely enjoyable group but holy moly hero with a gigantic throw lol That was like a free game near the endgame and he managed to completely blow it up somehow | ||
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On August 30 2025 17:20 LightSpectra wrote: I'm surprised there isn't more discussion about this. herO at his best is about on par with Soulkey and probably had the best chance out of anyone this ASL to beat him. I'm not sure if he's fallen off, or everyone else has gotten better and outpaced him, or if it's just an unlucky year. Hero has never been on par with soulkey. Hero is a tier below soulkey. S rank zergs are Queen, Soulkey, and Soma and everyone else below | ||
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bw2ku
24 Posts
On September 01 2025 04:11 Shinokuki wrote: Hero has never been on par with soulkey. Hero is a tier below soulkey. S rank zergs are Queen, Soulkey, and Soma and everyone else below There's only one S-tier zerg, under SK there's Soma and Jaedong (his current form at least), followed by Hero & Queen. Effort can be insanely good, he's just not regularly showing it. Until he delivers consistency I'm not convinced he's going to go far this season. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2440 Posts
On September 01 2025 04:11 Shinokuki wrote: Hero has never been on par with soulkey. Hero is a tier below soulkey. S rank zergs are Queen, Soulkey, and Soma and everyone else below I mean, yeah? herO is not S-rank cuz he's only as good on Soulkey on his best days, Soulkey is as good as Soulkey every day lol | ||
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prosatan
Romania8612 Posts
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Kreuger
Sweden846 Posts
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On September 01 2025 10:33 LightSpectra wrote: I mean, yeah? herO is not S-rank cuz he's only as good on Soulkey on his best days, Soulkey is as good as Soulkey every day lol Soma's best days is like ss tier then | ||
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TheButtonmen
Canada1403 Posts
He's not some SS tier zero but he's the zerg that is always showing up with S tier play. That being said I'm very curious how a couple series of ZvZs look because you can only win so many coin flips in a row even when it's weighted towards the better player. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2440 Posts
I'm less knowledgeable about ZvP but he looked to be steamrolling everyone except SnOw and BeSt the past four seasons. | ||
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