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mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey489 Posts
August 27 2025 15:08 GMT
#101
What did I tell you guys! This season is True %100!
Turrican
RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
144 Posts
August 27 2025 15:33 GMT
#102
On August 28 2025 00:08 mtcn77 wrote:
What did I tell you guys! This season is True %100!

TRUE beat the opponents he was matched against which is all that you can ask of anyone, but I don't see how you could have watched today's games and say he displayed a quality of play which foreshadows success in the round of 16.
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey489 Posts
August 27 2025 16:31 GMT
#103
On August 28 2025 00:33 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
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On August 28 2025 00:08 mtcn77 wrote:
What did I tell you guys! This season is True %100!

TRUE beat the opponents he was matched against which is all that you can ask of anyone, but I don't see how you could have watched today's games and say he displayed a quality of play which foreshadows success in the round of 16.

You mistook me. I saw True's success back in ASL19.
On April 06 2025 10:55 mtcn77 wrote:
I think Queen started it proper vs Flash last season, but the true champion has been True.

Turrican
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States362 Posts
August 27 2025 17:46 GMT
#104
What a crazy group to round out the Ro24. All the games were just head turners, herO not fighting 2 health lings with his drones, Royal just dying to a 2fact, the clown show of both the winners and losers match.

True better pull some crazy shit out in Ro16 and I'm always rooting for Barracks so happy to see him advance
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2915 Posts
August 27 2025 22:36 GMT
#105
Royal's results after winning ASL14 have been diabolical:
ASL15: 0-3 in Ro16
ASL16: 0-3 in Ro16
ASL17: 0-3 in Ro16
ASL18: 2-4 in Ro16
ASL19: 0-2 in Ro24
ASL20: 1-2 in Ro24
In hindsight, maybe he should have gone to the military during that period instead.
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines581 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-27 22:41:40
August 27 2025 22:41 GMT
#106
fun fact: if you exclude military service, that's the first time hero failed to make ro16 since VANT36.5 (over 20 seasons of making at least ro16). i hope the king of consistency snaps back, he deserves another title shot

here is where he was eliminated in the previous ASLs:

vant36.5 hero eliminated in ro32
1-2 ro3
3 ro16
4 ro2
5 ro4
6 military
7 military
8 military
9 military
10 ro16
11 ro4
12 ro4
13 ro16
14 ro4
15 ro4
16 ro8
17 ro2
18 ro8
19 ro16
20 ro24
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50471 Posts
August 28 2025 06:42 GMT
#107
On August 28 2025 07:36 TMNT wrote:
Royal's results after winning ASL14 have been diabolical:
ASL15: 0-3 in Ro16
ASL16: 0-3 in Ro16
ASL17: 0-3 in Ro16
ASL18: 2-4 in Ro16
ASL19: 0-2 in Ro24
ASL20: 1-2 in Ro24
In hindsight, maybe he should have gone to the military during that period instead.


yup, I wasn't joking when I made the casy comparison, and even then casy at least made into one more Ro4 after that.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8342 Posts
August 28 2025 07:04 GMT
#108
Yes , Royal hasn't been the same since he won!
That's why i went with rax instead of him
and i think hero is the most consistent player of ASL ever , even if he hadn't won a tournament. YET !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8342 Posts
August 28 2025 10:01 GMT
#109
hero is back streaming!

he doesnt look upset ! he is laughing with his chat

playing right now on ladder
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
ScoutWBF
Profile Joined April 2005
Germany619 Posts
August 28 2025 10:22 GMT
#110
That's a lot of Zergs qualifying for Top 16 this season.
Feels like Z>T and Z>>P right now.
Terrans just die when Zerg hits Hive and they can't break that 2nd expansion.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2073 Posts
August 28 2025 10:54 GMT
#111
Yeah, Light and Snow are gonna have to do some heavy lifting...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2915 Posts
August 28 2025 11:26 GMT
#112
Light is currently not in good shape after his one month or so break. Snow probably worst form in years. I think both have two kids now and are kind of distracted. Daddy responsibilities have taken its toll guys, be prepared for Soulkey's 7-peat.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3046 Posts
August 28 2025 12:09 GMT
#113
TMNT the hype man.
Would be cool if Best took it down after getting so close. Or.. ORRR?
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mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey489 Posts
August 28 2025 13:21 GMT
#114
On August 28 2025 19:22 ScoutWBF wrote:
That's a lot of Zergs qualifying for Top 16 this season.
Feels like Z>T and Z>>P right now.
Terrans just die when Zerg hits Hive and they can't break that 2nd expansion.

You obviously know soulkey builds his impenetrable fortress around out of competition pros? Any titleholder in the defensive matrix can break the illusion any time. I say he is the reason Hero is performing so poorly since top competition is so different to prepare than the group stages.
Turrican
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-29 03:41:45
August 29 2025 03:41 GMT
#115
I guess the many Zergs is also a problem for SK, because he can't avoid the volatility of that match-up either. Although I guess he'll make another one-Zerg group for himself...
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Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
290 Posts
August 29 2025 08:14 GMT
#116
Hero VS Royal was something else entirely, as well as that ZvZ to begin with. Fantastic matches, though not entirely in the most positive way. Very happy I decided to catch the VOD of this amazing group, haha.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands988 Posts
August 29 2025 10:15 GMT
#117
If only Royal would stick to standard low risk play. He is really good at it. but something in him makes him want to play risky or out of the box.
JDON MY SOUL!
RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
144 Posts
August 29 2025 15:54 GMT
#118
On August 29 2025 19:15 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
If only Royal would stick to standard low risk play. He is really good at it. but something in him makes him want to play risky or out of the box.

Players employ the strategy they think delivers the highest chance of winning. If a player plays risky or unorthodox, that's usually because they're either not confident in winning a standard game. Whether their internal evaluation is correct or not is a different question.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4127 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-29 18:44:23
August 29 2025 18:42 GMT
#119
On August 28 2025 19:22 ScoutWBF wrote:
That's a lot of Zergs qualifying for Top 16 this season.
Feels like Z>T and Z>>P right now.
Terrans just die when Zerg hits Hive and they can't break that 2nd expansion.

To me it feels more like Z>P and Z>>T right now. Protosses look way more competitive imo. Perhaps it is because Terrans don't actually have S tier players left, but Protoss do

To be more precise is like there is Soulkey > everyone and then the best Protosses = the best Zergs while Terrans are not a factor on this level atm
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Ze'ev
Profile Joined May 2025
81 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-29 20:20:37
August 29 2025 20:20 GMT
#120
On August 30 2025 00:54 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
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On August 29 2025 19:15 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
If only Royal would stick to standard low risk play. He is really good at it. but something in him makes him want to play risky or out of the box.

Players employ the strategy they think delivers the highest chance of winning. If a player plays risky or unorthodox, that's usually because they're either not confident in winning a standard game. Whether their internal evaluation is correct or not is a different question.
Unorthodox true, but risky/aggressive is actually considered the thing your supposed to be doing if your the better player in korea. In the west we say play standard and safe if your better but koreans 100% disagree.
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