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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6119 Posts
May 07 2025 05:54 GMT
#161
On May 06 2025 20:53 Zergxhx wrote:
Who can stop SK? Snow? Light? Best?
I don't see any chance


Light has the best chance. Has the strongest TvZ and has beaten Soulkey plenty of times on ladder
#1 Terran hater
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8098 Posts
May 07 2025 08:23 GMT
#162
Well that was not even close.

Poor Rush.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1262 Posts
May 07 2025 09:44 GMT
#163
On May 07 2025 14:54 Highways wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2025 20:53 Zergxhx wrote:
Who can stop SK? Snow? Light? Best?
I don't see any chance


Light has the best chance. Has the strongest TvZ and has beaten Soulkey plenty of times on ladder

they dont rlly meet on ladder. they almost exlusively meet in proleague or sponsored matches/events
JDON MY SOUL!
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6119 Posts
May 07 2025 12:15 GMT
#164
On May 07 2025 18:44 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2025 14:54 Highways wrote:
On May 06 2025 20:53 Zergxhx wrote:
Who can stop SK? Snow? Light? Best?
I don't see any chance


Light has the best chance. Has the strongest TvZ and has beaten Soulkey plenty of times on ladder

they dont rlly meet on ladder. they almost exlusively meet in proleague or sponsored matches/events


#1 Terran hater
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8671 Posts
May 07 2025 16:14 GMT
#165
The first game gave me some hope for a somewhat even series but holy this was one-sided. It's insane that at this level one player makes the other one look like 2 ranks below.

I honestly don't know if Soulkey can be stopped. I personally don't think his ZvP is too hot but both Snow and Best don't seem like the kind of candidates who can beat him. I think Light has the best chances but Soulkey's ZvT looks insane with his defense being almost impenetrable. It's usually not something I say for TvZ, especially when Light is involved, but I think it's going to be an uphill battle for Light in this case.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1103 Posts
May 07 2025 19:47 GMT
#166
That last game looked like SK was vs a foreign pro. Every single move was countered starting from blocking the cc location
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-07 21:05:26
May 07 2025 21:01 GMT
#167
What's wild to think about is how SoulKey has somehow avoided Zergs for the most part on this potential 4-peat run and ZvZ does seem to be his weakest match up.

In the past 4 ASL's (including this one), he has only played 3 matches against Zergs.

Hero where he won 4-3

Hero again where he won 2-1

And Calm where he lost 0-1

That's 6-5 in ZvZs with only a winning rec over Hero and it's just barely a winning record. Obviously this way worst than his ZvT and ZvP records which are ridiculous.

Obviously he is great ZvZ and can go toe to toe with anyone but it is his worst MU by a mile (boasting 51% lifetime win rate in it) and he's somehow primarily faced only Protoss' and Terrans on his way to such dominance. I guess it helps when you get the last group switch every year but still, it's pretty fortunate for him.


Side note: I think the luckiest ASL run was RoyaL's run (not saying SK's is lucky, he's clearly the best right now). But RoyaL literally avoided every Protoss all tournament and just cheesed the fuck out of every Zerg and Terran on his way to a title lol. It was a title run that made me feel gross watching.
bochs
Profile Joined February 2022
119 Posts
May 08 2025 05:47 GMT
#168
Flash would have the best chance against SK if he had participated.
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
149 Posts
May 08 2025 11:33 GMT
#169
I was most surprised how Snow wanted Soulkey to win this. The man toss wants to climb the peak the hard way.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
May 08 2025 12:36 GMT
#170
Poor Snow gonna get wrecked for the third season in a row by SK.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1262 Posts
May 08 2025 14:28 GMT
#171
On May 08 2025 06:01 G5 wrote:
What's wild to think about is how SoulKey has somehow avoided Zergs for the most part on this potential 4-peat run and ZvZ does seem to be his weakest match up.

In the past 4 ASL's (including this one), he has only played 3 matches against Zergs.

Hero where he won 4-3

Hero again where he won 2-1

And Calm where he lost 0-1

That's 6-5 in ZvZs with only a winning rec over Hero and it's just barely a winning record. Obviously this way worst than his ZvT and ZvP records which are ridiculous.

Obviously he is great ZvZ and can go toe to toe with anyone but it is his worst MU by a mile (boasting 51% lifetime win rate in it) and he's somehow primarily faced only Protoss' and Terrans on his way to such dominance. I guess it helps when you get the last group switch every year but still, it's pretty fortunate for him.


Side note: I think the luckiest ASL run was RoyaL's run (not saying SK's is lucky, he's clearly the best right now). But RoyaL literally avoided every Protoss all tournament and just cheesed the fuck out of every Zerg and Terran on his way to a title lol. It was a title run that made me feel gross watching.

Royal didnt only cheese. he also won some legit standard games vs the best zergs
JDON MY SOUL!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2140 Posts
May 08 2025 15:35 GMT
#172
I thought Royal played very well, and he had really good builds as well. And his win he was very good against Protoss too for a few months. Heck, he beat Snow in several series. I feel like he's underrated, although he sometimes does himself no favours...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
May 08 2025 21:55 GMT
#173
On May 08 2025 21:36 RowdierBob wrote:
Poor Snow gonna get wrecked for the third season in a row by SK.


Pretty crazy they’re playing each other in the semis for a 3rd time in a row. I don’t think this has ever happened in any tournament before? It’s at least very rare, even with a smaller player pool nowadays.
Free Palestine
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
May 09 2025 00:51 GMT
#174
On May 09 2025 06:55 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2025 21:36 RowdierBob wrote:
Poor Snow gonna get wrecked for the third season in a row by SK.


Pretty crazy they’re playing each other in the semis for a 3rd time in a row. I don’t think this has ever happened in any tournament before? It’s at least very rare, even with a smaller player pool nowadays.

Snow’s only real chance is to mix it up Mini style with his builds. If plays same old predictable macro style then SK will pick him apart.

Whichever way he plays though, it’s hard to see Snow winning. SK just doesn’t have any peers on his level atm.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
May 09 2025 03:57 GMT
#175
Snow, please bring reavers back to PvZ. There's gotta be a unit composition that makes them effective in the midgame. They're powerful AOE that's cheap on gas, and they even outrange lurkers!
My strategy is to fork people.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
May 09 2025 07:49 GMT
#176
hoping snow can make the series competitive

rush got absolutely smashed
( ・´ー・`)
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
May 09 2025 08:37 GMT
#177
We need Snow to get taught pvz by mini.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-09 11:49:39
May 09 2025 11:45 GMT
#178
Dear god. That game 4 win was so nasty by Soulkey

It was like minimal amount of units with surgical attacks basically breaking Rush in safe position. Like SK saw an opportunity and just went in.

It wasnt even a timing attack or some mapped out shit. He just saw "oh he has x units bet i could murder them all" and he fucking did.

That's the most casual 3 muta and like 3 ling runby that fucking killed Rush inside his base lmao

Also that game 5 with that starting drone lol
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
May 09 2025 11:47 GMT
#179
On May 09 2025 12:57 Severedevil wrote:
Snow, please bring reavers back to PvZ. There's gotta be a unit composition that makes them effective in the midgame. They're powerful AOE that's cheap on gas, and they even outrange lurkers!

There was a DT-Reaver timing like a decade ago iirc maybe that'll make a comeback. It looked stupid strong although idk how well it will do against modern zergs especially the current best zerg and the most dominating player
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
May 09 2025 11:48 GMT
#180
On May 08 2025 14:47 bochs wrote:
Flash would have the best chance against SK if he had participated.

That or ZvZ cause ZvZ is just fluky
this is a quote
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