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GTR
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On March 24 2025 21:16 BLinD-RawR wrote: I think this is the first time a TLer beat a pro in a televised game Sea and Violet don't count. legionnaire in proleague | ||
BLinD-RawR
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fair enough, still impressive that its happened again after all this time. | ||
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prosatan
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and i know scan is a TLer.... | ||
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TMNT
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On March 24 2025 21:01 ggsimida wrote: i was very impressed not just by their mechanics but also but their attitude, ingame decision making and adaptability, traits a lot of the old bw uncs do not have. if u actually follow them i would not be surprised if they could at least qualify for asl with significant amount of training and coaching. i remember scarlett (a lower tier sc2 foreigner) played in an asl qualifier and did ok (took some sets) even though she was not fully committed and did not obv qualify. if u still advocate for the likes of sea and clam to beat them then u are just a negative boomer like them Scarlett took some sets against noname players who have a day job and ladder as their practice place just like you and me. But why do you even need to look at her as a benchmark when you literally have TY who is actively playing right now. I'm actually not against the idea of Serral and Clem getting into ASL with significant practice. Getting into ASL Ro24 is not that impossible. Amateur Koreans and even the Chinese players came close a few times. I'm also not saying Calm and Sea the variety streamers (lol) would beat them. I'm just against the idea that anyone at the top of SC2 would transition to SC1 and surely be at the top as well. There is the equal possibility thay they would be stuck forever at "top of the ladder" level and never touch BW pro level. | ||
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prosatan
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very impressive for a variety streamer ! | ||
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On March 24 2025 21:26 prosatan wrote: i am sorry to say but i root for calm... and i know scan is a TLer.... Scan advancing could possibly cost soop money. Calm is one of the reasons this group sold tickets so well. | ||
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TMNT
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On March 24 2025 21:37 TornadoSteve wrote: The quality of those games were subASL level, to say the least Because players aren't as focused on the game as before. Shuttle and Clam both spending more time with SC universities than playing BW. Shuttle is even involved in that excel dancing shit. And for as much as everyone, notably Artosis, will be pushing for the narrative that Scan has been grinding hard for this day, the truth is for a year or so now he has spent increasingly time on coaching at YB (Sea's university) and less on actually playing BW. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On March 24 2025 21:44 TMNT wrote: Because players aren't as focused on the game as before. Shuttle and Clam both spending more time with SC universities than playing BW. Shuttle is even involved in that excel dancing shit. And for as much as everyone, notably Artosis, will be pushing for the narrative that Scan has been grinding hard for this day, the truth is for a year or so now he has spent increasingly time on coaching at YB (Sea's university) and less on actually playing BW. Scan did in fact grind a fair bit so Artosis would not be wrong. Talk to him on a daily basis. It is possible to do a lot of University activities and also practice a good amount. Shuttle also put in a good amount of games but cant say much about whether he was super dilligent about his practice. But it was more than he did for the last three times he qualified. Calm on the other hand played less for a far as I know. But even then, back when Calm played a lot more Scan was still winning like 80% of his TvZ vs Calm, albeit in online play. I legit think you are down playing pros and their activity and drive way too much. Xun was doing the same on stream and I very very much disagree with it because often times its just not an actual reflection of reality. For example Xun said pros play way less serious online, even though that is where they actually make a living. Proleagues, KcM, Ultimate battles and the Chinese sponsored battles and the Soop series has the pros playing their very best most of the time. Plus they are in their comfort zone of their own homes with their own chairs and setup. I will argue pros play worse offline on average than online. While yea, ASL has the most prestige, it does not mean players are able to play their very best on stage everytime they are on stage. It is a much less comfortable environment. | ||
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Giovanni8
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On March 24 2025 23:09 Giovanni8 wrote: Scan deserved this qualification so much, i am very happy for him!!! 100% the truth. | ||
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