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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
September 26 2024 21:10 GMT
#121
On September 27 2024 06:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2024 05:15 Peeano wrote:
Agree, maybe booths will finally make their return if SPL lifts off. It's crazy how they haven't yet. Budget really must be tight.

That is not something used on esports anymore. And even back then on SPL progamers were looking at the public face reactions to get intel LOL.


I'm pretty sure this wasn't really the case at all (I remember one time people thought leta was cheating by looking at crowd but it was confirmed later to be false)? Also easily fixed but turning the booths 180 from crowd lol
Free Palestine
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-28 07:20:20
September 28 2024 07:19 GMT
#122
Boy was i stupid to have delayed the watching of this group's final matches on this saturday morning - ruined my weekend start for sure. What a bad idea was it to place two legends in the same group so early just for the sake of placing them and having them wiped out, even if Bisu ''was not supposed'' to loose to Barracks of all people.
qet
Profile Joined May 2007
Australia245 Posts
September 28 2024 12:15 GMT
#123
On September 28 2024 16:19 Artas1984 wrote:
Boy was i stupid to have delayed the watching of this group's final matches on this saturday morning - ruined my weekend start for sure. What a bad idea was it to place two legends in the same group so early just for the sake of placing them and having them wiped out, even if Bisu ''was not supposed'' to loose to Barracks of all people.


In the RO16 placement -
Barracks picked JyJ for group B.
JyJ picked Bisu
Then Soulkey used his champions privilege to move Jaedong out of his group, and let Sea decide who.
Sea swapped Jaedong with JyJ - that's how Jaedong and Bisu were both placed into Group B

Bisu and Jaedong are well past their prime. I think it's perfectly reasonable to have them both in the same group.
If they were so good, then at least one of them would have made it out, but they did not.
Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance.

The "good" players are the ones who are seeded from last year's top 4, and they are guaranteed to be in different groups.
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey679 Posts
September 29 2024 15:58 GMT
#124
Man it was an upset, however it was sweet victory for old times sake. The last game was payback for Snow vs JD in ASL 15 Dark Origin. I hated it when it happened to JD, this evens it out.
Turrican
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8656 Posts
September 29 2024 22:24 GMT
#125
On September 24 2024 22:44 TMNT wrote:
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On September 24 2024 22:33 RowdierBob wrote:
Poor Bisu. He kinda looks like ro16 might be his ceiling. Just doesn’t look on par with the top level guys atm.

That is not true. Bisu has always been 60% vs Hero last year and this year. It just doesn't manifest in a Bo3. And probably in a tournament setting where Zerg tend to have the upper hand against Protoss with their early shenanigans. Like we saw in the last game it was one misclick or something that let the zerglings slip in that totally changed the fate of the game.



Yeah, it was so painful to see the missclick when he moved the probes. After the lings got in, the match was literally over. In my mind it's amazing Bisu even made it to the later stages in that game. Yes, he messed up later on but he was also so far behind for long stretches of the game and I also think the map looks pretty hard for P in PvZ beyond 2 bases.

RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-30 00:45:20
September 30 2024 00:43 GMT
#126
On September 28 2024 21:15 qet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2024 16:19 Artas1984 wrote:
Boy was i stupid to have delayed the watching of this group's final matches on this saturday morning - ruined my weekend start for sure. What a bad idea was it to place two legends in the same group so early just for the sake of placing them and having them wiped out, even if Bisu ''was not supposed'' to loose to Barracks of all people.


In the RO16 placement -
Barracks picked JyJ for group B.
JyJ picked Bisu
Then Soulkey used his champions privilege to move Jaedong out of his group, and let Sea decide who.
Sea swapped Jaedong with JyJ - that's how Jaedong and Bisu were both placed into Group B

Bisu and Jaedong are well past their prime. I think it's perfectly reasonable to have them both in the same group.
If they were so good, then at least one of them would have made it out, but they did not.
Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance.

The "good" players are the ones who are seeded from last year's top 4, and they are guaranteed to be in different groups.


I would not say they are past their prime. Bisu still does well in online competition where 99.5% of competition happens. Jaedong his style is just weaker compared to the rest because he isnt as much of a mindgamer as the others. He relies heavily on rather straight forward play where his mechanics and understanding do all the lifting. He rarely tries misdirectional play and his set-ups leading into situations are not as intricate, whereas soulkey will have all his units in perfect locations and have all the mindgames going on all at once. That playstyle is where others grew more and jaedong grew less.
JDON MY SOUL!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44252 Posts
September 30 2024 13:13 GMT
#127
Kinda sad Bisu and Jaedong didnt make it but it is what it is. Competition is fierce
this is a quote
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