I felt like the last thread was not that awesome(lot's of people complaining that the thread starter was inactive) and decided to conceive this one!
This season might prove to be interesting, with players last season such as Light[Alive] and Sword[fou]. There might even be some progamers popping their heads around here and there, we never know. But, if there's a hint as to who that progamer is, you'll know for sure that it will be in this thread!
i iz monkeyspanker, and yeah i looked at the who is who thread season 2 and it never looked updated. Like ever. I looked at it like once every 2 weeks and never saw a new name. Quite useless to have someone whose not going to read and update enough.
On November 21 2007 03:28 SayaSP wrote: Wow Chill bringing down the ultimatum. Scary.
A dumb ultimatum. No incentive in being the person that updates these, just a nice thing to do. If he can do it on a semi active level thats fine. None of the staff members of TL.net are jumping up to do the task so threatening the people that are is stupid.
Plenty of people are willing to do it. We don't want someone rushing in to do it first and then stopping to do it half way through (like has happened countless times before). If you aren't going to follow through to completion, step aside and let someone else do it.
no one ever completely goes through with this thing. whoever starts it usually updates it for a while then stops, people complain, someone steps up to take over but then they eventually stop too. i havent noticed anyone willing to commit to it so i dont see why you'd threaten him with a ban.
Nobody fucking volunteers thinking "Oh I will fizzle off and drop this later!" You threatening to ban someone for doing something they cannot foresee is stupid. If it is such a big deal do it yourself. The "plenty" of people who can do it have and often do take over when someone drops out and they themselves fizzle out... the reason is its a long season and everyone has shit come up.
Fair enough. It's similar to someone making league game threads - If you're not planning to update the results, don't make the thread and let someone else do it. I would have imagined someone would go through with it to completion. I don't really think that's an unreasonable request, but if it's never been done I guess why start now.
Its completely reasonable to hope or ask that someone goes through with it. It is unreasonable to ban and punish a volunteer when you yourself (a staff member) wont do the task. Especially considering nobody (like I said) does it thinking they will fizzle out or drop it. Everyone has the best intentions when they do it. No fame is attached to authoring the "ICCUP who is who" thread.
I understand that. I was under the assumption someone would see through what they've started. If you are not that person, do not open the thread. If that person doesn't exist, then anyone can open the thread.
Me not doing the task is irrelevant because I didn't open the thread.
On November 21 2007 07:45 Chill wrote: Fair enough. It's similar to someone making league game threads - If you're not planning to update the results, don't make the thread and let someone else do it. I would have imagined someone would go through with it to completion. I don't really think that's an unreasonable request, but if it's never been done I guess why start now.
yea. its just that there are plenty of people willing to start and update game threads as opposed to who is who threads. just a lot less commitment and easier to see through, so its hard to hold these to the same standard.
On November 21 2007 07:35 Chill wrote: Plenty of people are willing to do it. We don't want someone rushing in to do it first and then stopping to do it half way through (like has happened countless times before). If you aren't going to follow through to completion, step aside and let someone else do it.
Sorry for double post but:
You jumped so far to a conclusion that you won a gold medal, sir. I wasn't rushing to do this, I just felt like the last one sucked ass so I'll do it this time since I've got a lot of free time. As your name implies, Chill dude. Don't spam up the thread with your useless text.
Anyways, hoping ICCup season starts soon, it's already a day ahead of their supposed opening date(monday).
EDIT: NVm about the double post, exigent posted right in between ;D
On November 21 2007 10:03 Chill wrote: Nothing I posted was a conclusion. It was all theoretical. It's not useless text, I'm replying to people talking to me.
It's useless because you're just starting shit and going off topic.
in b4 contradiction
(You're probably going to be a smartass and be like "OH ROFL SO IS UR RESPONSE LOL.")
On November 21 2007 10:03 Chill wrote: Nothing I posted was a conclusion. It was all theoretical. It's not useless text, I'm replying to people talking to me.
It's useless because you're just starting shit and going off topic.
in b4 contradiction
(You're probably going to be a smartass and be like "OH ROFL SO IS UR RESPONSE LOL.")
I'm really noone with any authority to ask this but can we please try to keep this thread from becoming "the running sore" that every other Who is Who thread i've seen on this site has devolved into?
On November 21 2007 10:03 Chill wrote: Nothing I posted was a conclusion. It was all theoretical. It's not useless text, I'm replying to people talking to me.
It's useless because you're just starting shit and going off topic.
in b4 contradiction
(You're probably going to be a smartass and be like "OH ROFL SO IS UR RESPONSE LOL.")
On November 21 2007 10:03 Chill wrote: Nothing I posted was a conclusion. It was all theoretical. It's not useless text, I'm replying to people talking to me.
It's useless because you're just starting shit and going off topic.
in b4 contradiction
(You're probably going to be a smartass and be like "OH ROFL SO IS UR RESPONSE LOL.")
On November 21 2007 10:03 Chill wrote: Nothing I posted was a conclusion. It was all theoretical. It's not useless text, I'm replying to people talking to me.
It's useless because you're just starting shit and going off topic.
in b4 contradiction
(You're probably going to be a smartass and be like "OH ROFL SO IS UR RESPONSE LOL.")
And this makes you a dumbass.
This makes you a dumbass.
Keep on topic plz kthnx.
oh its on
dumbass
EDIT: To be on topic, I wonder if more people will be swayed to play WGT rather than ICC. I guess time will tell.
there is no point in saying ur aka's, because the way its looking iccup = dead, they said friday the latest now their sayhing wont be this weekend for sure. Jut put iccup with wgt and PGT now
ali...vegas, after reading the majority of your posts at iccup website, I cant help but laugh at you. ICCup is not dead. They are just as much alive as they were before. Simply because a ladder is having some technical difficulties doesnt give you the right to assume its dead.
How about when it comes back online, you just stop playing it. Since its very obvious where your loyalty stands. Stop bitching, especially on multiple forums, and just wait it out like the rest of us.
On November 24 2007 06:34 Ali...Vegas wrote: there is no point in saying ur aka's, because the way its looking iccup = dead
Not true at all. In fact, they have just done some upgrades and prepped a new season. The delay is because they left their old hosting service and are switching to a new one. The return dates they have said have been the estimates they were quoted by the hosting companies.
On November 24 2007 09:27 PaeZ wrote: Im bringit.odin in case someone cares :p
Hmm, I wanted to ask, why is there an "N" next to your name on ICC? I've seen it on so many profiles but never bothered to PM someone about it; seemed too trivial at the time.
On November 24 2007 09:27 PaeZ wrote: Im bringit.odin in case someone cares :p
Hmm, I wanted to ask, why is there an "N" next to your name on ICC? I've seen it on so many profiles but never bothered to PM someone about it; seemed too trivial at the time.
I'm pretty sure it means that the player is on their nation's national team for nation wars and such.
On November 24 2007 09:27 PaeZ wrote: Im bringit.odin in case someone cares :p
Hmm, I wanted to ask, why is there an "N" next to your name on ICC? I've seen it on so many profiles but never bothered to PM someone about it; seemed too trivial at the time.
I'm pretty sure it means that the player is on their nation's national team for nation wars and such.
oh god im trying to build a gosu record on a smurf ID, and the 2nd game I disconnect just as my 12th probe is finishing and get a loss. no web site = no complaints = that loss is sticking
On December 01 2007 01:58 NonY[rC] wrote: oh god im trying to build a gosu record on a smurf ID, and the 2nd game I disconnect just as my 12th probe is finishing and get a loss. no web site = no complaints = that loss is sticking
wait, what!? i just responded to you in SC2: battle ranking thread about you against smurfing =p talk about an odd coincidence.
Anyway, I feel compelled to start playing bw again. My account is ))(())(( for anyone looking to curb stomp some newbie zerg.
i'm for setting up a community so that smurfing isn't possible and so that there's no reason to want to smurf. bw is not set up that way, so i smurf in bw. but i'd be happier playing in the non-smurf community that i describe for sc2 b.net ;o
On December 01 2007 02:50 NonY[rC] wrote: i'm for setting up a community so that smurfing isn't possible and so that there's no reason to want to smurf. bw is not set up that way, so i smurf in bw. but i'd be happier playing in the non-smurf community that i describe for sc2 b.net ;o
Can we start listing notable ppl? Instead of random ppl that feel the need to post their name hopin to go on the list. (Applies to the non-TL ppl ofc).
On December 01 2007 10:35 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote: Can we start listing notable ppl? Instead of random ppl that feel the need to post their name hopin to go on the list. (Applies to the non-TL ppl ofc).
On December 01 2007 10:35 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote: Can we start listing notable ppl? Instead of random ppl that feel the need to post their name hopin to go on the list. (Applies to the non-TL ppl ofc).
who on the list is not notable right now? both of them were A last season, 2 of the 4 foreigners to get A.
What I want to know is ... is there any particular reason we got a "TL.netter" section of this?
Not to be mean but all those akas are not that great players, and who really cares... I wouldnt want my name here, "hey add me Xeris[LighT] i'll be topping out at C rank this season!" woopdeedoo...
imo this thread should be for notable and good players, I don't think casual people who are looking at this thread give jack about what TL.net players are getting owned on ICCUP (I say that as sort of a sarcastic comment because it seems to me that so many TL.net people lack confidence in their skills "hi I'm going to be D- this season!").
Anways, is it just me or has the ICCUP site not been updated at all as far as ladder ranks, because I've seen the same guys in the top 5 since yesterday.
Also, a friend of mine won 500 points in some ICCUP tourney and also a few more games and I haven't seen anything on the site.
On December 01 2007 17:22 Xeris wrote: What I want to know is ... is there any particular reason we got a "TL.netter" section of this?
Not to be mean but all those akas are not that great players, and who really cares... I wouldnt want my name here, "hey add me Xeris[LighT] i'll be topping out at C rank this season!" woopdeedoo...
imo this thread should be for notable and good players, I don't think casual people who are looking at this thread give jack about what TL.net players are getting owned on ICCUP (I say that as sort of a sarcastic comment because it seems to me that so many TL.net people lack confidence in their skills "hi I'm going to be D- this season!").
maybe so we can play fellow tlnetters on the server. it's a good way to practice and make some internet friends.
Anways, is it just me or has the ICCUP site not been updated at all as far as ladder ranks, because I've seen the same guys in the top 5 since yesterday.
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it will be updated later thay say. im C- and i think there ar some C guys to.
On December 01 2007 17:22 Xeris wrote: What I want to know is ... is there any particular reason we got a "TL.netter" section of this?
Not to be mean but all those akas are not that great players, and who really cares... I wouldnt want my name here, "hey add me Xeris[LighT] i'll be topping out at C rank this season!" woopdeedoo...
imo this thread should be for notable and good players, I don't think casual people who are looking at this thread give jack about what TL.net players are getting owned on ICCUP (I say that as sort of a sarcastic comment because it seems to me that so many TL.net people lack confidence in their skills "hi I'm going to be D- this season!").
Anways, is it just me or has the ICCUP site not been updated at all as far as ladder ranks, because I've seen the same guys in the top 5 since yesterday.
Also, a friend of mine won 500 points in some ICCUP tourney and also a few more games and I haven't seen anything on the site.
So who exactly are the casual readers who are coming into this thread? I'd say there's more ICCUP players looking at this than casual players. Also, the TL.net section is at the bottom of the post. If you don't want to read it, don't. It's because it's interesting to TL.netters to see if they've played one another or to meet one another on ICCUP.
On December 02 2007 06:44 CaucasianAsian wrote: I'm 2 games from C-
I saw some korean kid with C+ who was 40-22 who the hell plays 62 games in 1 day?
don't know for u in the US but for European players there was 2 days. All friday and Saturday. 30 games in one day for a koreean is not so much. i playd 40 in 2 days and had oder think to do today
so vanilla was caught blatantly hacking or cheating on ventrillo or whatever then decides to randomly come back to bw again? lol? kid deserves to be neck snapped ez son
i think most gosu players would do some cheese strats to rank up faster..i remember last season, the korean top rankers would cheese the shit outta me when at D level. also i'm sure lots of them would like going zvz's. i myself played lots of zvz's to get C- in one day. longest zvz game was like 14 minutes, which you can easily pull off 40 games in a day.
Just checked http://starcraft.theabyss.eu/ and there seems to be a statement where the crew promises "Servers will be up today in first half of day". I guess we can expect ICC to be up and running normally (the site staying up-to-date) pretty soon?
On December 01 2007 17:22 Xeris wrote: What I want to know is ... is there any particular reason we got a "TL.netter" section of this?
Not to be mean but all those akas are not that great players, and who really cares... I wouldnt want my name here, "hey add me Xeris[LighT] i'll be topping out at C rank this season!" woopdeedoo...
imo this thread should be for notable and good players, I don't think casual people who are looking at this thread give jack about what TL.net players are getting owned on ICCUP (I say that as sort of a sarcastic comment because it seems to me that so many TL.net people lack confidence in their skills "hi I'm going to be D- this season!").
Anways, is it just me or has the ICCUP site not been updated at all as far as ladder ranks, because I've seen the same guys in the top 5 since yesterday.
Also, a friend of mine won 500 points in some ICCUP tourney and also a few more games and I haven't seen anything on the site.
They only post their name if they want it to be known, and if it's not hurting anyone in any way what's your problem with it?
i think im gonna be the first person ti hit a rating of zero, im at 500 odd now lol. my handle is Sorr0w, do pop in and have a giggle at my rank if you see me
On December 06 2007 01:20 Kyttn wrote: i think im gonna be the first person ti hit a rating of zero, im at 500 odd now lol. my handle is Sorr0w, do pop in and have a giggle at my rank if you see me
uh, white-ra played on gameitoss on pgt as well, plus gameitoss is on the ICCup MYM team its pretty doubtful it isn't him, unless fraer decided to copy white-ra's old smurf and then joined MYM. too
Well when I played Gameitoss last season he told me he was not White-Ra. So when I was at WCG I actually asked White-Ra and he said he was sharing that acc with fAke.Fraer and maybe some other russian that I can't remember.
Does ICCup have stats for the most played maps? I would be very interested to know what would be the top 10. Or even top 20.
Of course motw distorts it a bit, but I guess if it is over a lot of seasons it gives a good representation of the 10 most popular maps for competitive SC.
If not, then who the fuck is it. Because I can't recall any other decent toss from Britain that's been active the last couple of years.
This is no Protoss I know of. We do have some decent toss these days but unless Zealot_uK is secretly back, and I doubt it, it's somebody else. I don't think any UK toss could get that rank this early in the season. I'd expect a few Bs by the end of season if certain people tried but this guy is either a foreigner living here (like ToT)Spawn() or using a UK flag to smurf.
who is ForgiveYou? got to the finals of that iccup pokersharks tourny, beating K2, CoolT, NoTempest (not sure who he is, but he eliminated IefNaij), and Squall.
On December 11 2007 23:22 littlechava wrote: who is ForgiveYou? got to the finals of that iccup pokersharks tourny, beating K2, CoolT, NoTempest (not sure who he is, but he eliminated IefNaij), and Squall.
On December 11 2007 23:22 littlechava wrote: who is ForgiveYou? got to the finals of that iccup pokersharks tourny, beating K2, CoolT, NoTempest (not sure who he is, but he eliminated IefNaij), and Squall.
If not, then who the fuck is it. Because I can't recall any other decent toss from Britain that's been active the last couple of years.
This is no Protoss I know of. We do have some decent toss these days but unless Zealot_uK is secretly back, and I doubt it, it's somebody else. I don't think any UK toss could get that rank this early in the season. I'd expect a few Bs by the end of season if certain people tried but this guy is either a foreigner living here (like ToT)Spawn() or using a UK flag to smurf.
you know what is weird as soon as i joined these froums i stoped playing sc bah not like it matters i porably be a c+ most likly a c classed player at best
On December 12 2007 14:01 IzzyCraft wrote: you know what is weird as soon as i joined these froums i stoped playing sc bah not like it matters i porably be a c+ most likly a c classed player at best
On December 12 2007 14:01 IzzyCraft wrote: you know what is weird as soon as i joined these froums i stoped playing sc bah not like it matters i porably be a c+ most likly a c classed player at best
This guy tt2 (ranked 39.), i played vs him. I go 8rax proxy on him in the middle of map(Python) in a TvT, and he founds me immidiately. I leave the game without trying. Later i accuse him of hack, he says "me no hack, me korea". Then he says he's a progamer. Said something about winning WCG korea. I asked something like "so you are saying you are hwasin or stork?". he says "nono im 7-4 with hwasin" and also says "5-3 stork". Dont remember the numbers exactly. I doubt he's a serious player tho, too low win percentage.
On December 13 2007 08:57 niteReloaded wrote: This guy tt2 (ranked 39.), i played vs him. I go 8rax proxy on him in the middle of map(Python) in a TvT, and he founds me immidiately. I leave the game without trying. Later i accuse him of hack, he says "me no hack, me korea". Then he says he's a progamer. Said something about winning WCG korea. I asked something like "so you are saying you are hwasin or stork?". he says "nono im 7-4 with hwasin" and also says "5-3 stork". Dont remember the numbers exactly. I doubt he's a serious player tho, too low win percentage.
hahah a guy with 50-20 and even no B- (20 losses on d and c level) and he's top progamer who owns hwasin and stork :DDDDDD in earlier seasons he had 15-7 D+ and 80-60 B- :D and he's in pro team- MW (most wanted) with like 90% Romanian players :D
Rumor has it 88MG. is MadGuy. from last season as well (and yes 88MG. is Dream.T)1988). However I think that 1988 denied being MadGuy. I know that they both play the same matchups (TvP TvZ PvT) so maybe someone could compare keys to be sure.
On December 13 2007 08:52 AstraBoy wrote: JaSne = xLo. Hackstro :D
Have you got any proof castro is maphacking? Because when I played him I got a VERY strong feeling he was using map hack. Might be wrong though.
Well i think that now he doesnt hack maybe in the past, cuz LG)Handy used to be hacker and they are friends and lived in the same city And well roumours were bigger when castro didnt show up for wcg finals and well iccup have an antilauncher, so NOBODY can use hack 8D!!
On December 16 2007 22:46 Pads wrote: but nuros doesn't play anymore, and strike just plays every now and then, neither could achieve those stats atm:p
nuros was good but he wasn't good enough to get those stats early in the season at iccup, even at his peak
I just played rex.ring he's a maphacker 100%. First 2 games he had standard cyber build and very late scouting, never made robo for the whole games then just after I was making citadel he suddenly built robotics. Then in game 3 I went 9 9 mid gates he had very early scouting, found my gates istantaneously and didn't make gas at 12 like he did in the first games. I'm just so angry right now =x
On December 18 2007 19:07 iG.ClouD wrote: I just played rex.ring he's a maphacker 100%. First 2 games he had standard cyber build and very late scouting, never made robo for the whole games then just after I was making citadel he suddenly built robotics. Then in game 3 I went 9 9 mid gates he had very early scouting, found my gates istantaneously and didn't make gas at 12 like he did in the first games. I'm just so angry right now =x
On December 18 2007 19:07 iG.ClouD wrote: I just played rex.ring he's a maphacker 100%. First 2 games he had standard cyber build and very late scouting, never made robo for the whole games then just after I was making citadel he suddenly built robotics. Then in game 3 I went 9 9 mid gates he had very early scouting, found my gates istantaneously and didn't make gas at 12 like he did in the first games. I'm just so angry right now =x
wow seems like this new and _updated_ antihack has got some holes in it again T_T
well u can detect that he is hacking, see the game list Units Build. Res. Total Prod. Kill Lost Build Razed Lost Gas Min. Spent inF.Carlo 42 19 25 16 0 2 640 5138 5550 14128 Rex.RinG 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
On December 18 2007 19:07 iG.ClouD wrote: I just played rex.ring he's a maphacker 100%. First 2 games he had standard cyber build and very late scouting, never made robo for the whole games then just after I was making citadel he suddenly built robotics. Then in game 3 I went 9 9 mid gates he had very early scouting, found my gates istantaneously and didn't make gas at 12 like he did in the first games. I'm just so angry right now =x
wow seems like this new and _updated_ antihack has got some holes in it again T_T
mouse.star maphacks too, and he's currently #16, I wonder why he's not banned. I sent in a complaint and admins even agreed that he maphacks, and reversed our match, but they let him continue to play. The AH doesn't work, and there's more hackers than ever this season imo. If anyones played mOuse.Star, you might want to look at the replay, because he was blatently hacking in our game.
On December 19 2007 13:30 LegendaryDreams wrote: Report that rex.ring guy then !! hes like top 5 ladder.. unacceptable
yeah lol
exigent: ''I am an iccup CAT super admin. I catch the cheaters, and I can tell you that rex-ring is not cheating. It's some sort of glitch, as no one has complained against him at all. however, he did abuse 5 games with [NaN]JJang, and I removed his points for that.
The oblivion hack is pretty damn rampant on the server. If you are caught using it, you do not get a warning/second chance. You are locked/banned. ''
Hey guys no need to panic the number one player has 57% ah usage, i strongly suspect the iccup antihack is working well but he just doesnt use it for the games he hacks with
On December 19 2007 13:30 LegendaryDreams wrote: Report that rex.ring guy then !! hes like top 5 ladder.. unacceptable
yeah lol
exigent: ''I am an iccup CAT super admin. I catch the cheaters, and I can tell you that rex-ring is not cheating. It's some sort of glitch, as no one has complained against him at all. however, he did abuse 5 games with [NaN]JJang, and I removed his points for that.
The oblivion hack is pretty damn rampant on the server. If you are caught using it, you do not get a warning/second chance. You are locked/banned. ''
Yes I posted that. The reason I said that, was because when I talked to unk, he said it was more than likely just a glitch. I still thought he was cheating though, because he got 5 freewins from [nan]jjang, and in those 5 games, there is no red x.
I know he is cheating, the problem is, I cant do anything about it until someone gives me a replay to work with. No one has come forward with a replay, and when I spoke to Cloud about his 3 games, he said he did not save the replays. MY only hope is to ask gameitoss if he saved the games.
He would already be locked/banned if I had some source to go off of, rather than just a bunch of x's in his matchlist.
Now, as for mouse.star. You never posted a replay in the abuse forum, you only said that he is cheating. Ladder admins that do complaints, do not handle hack users. So, you will need to post the replay in your topic. I would love to ban these people without any evidence, as I also know many of them are hacking, but I would probably lose my position if I did so.
So please people!!! bring more evidence to me! and I will remove those accounts.
On December 19 2007 06:52 GodsDevil[5thF] wrote: well u can detect that he is hacking, see the game list Units Build. Res. Total Prod. Kill Lost Build Razed Lost Gas Min. Spent inF.Carlo 42 19 25 16 0 2 640 5138 5550 14128 Rex.RinG 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
clear evidence of a hack.
it happens for example when a guy has x actions in '5' in bwchart -> oblivion's automine function. X 0 0 0 0 0 gets a player who use hack with antihack at the same time.
obvious, and dunno why some (exigent?) CAT iccup admin said that rex.ring was clean..
On December 20 2007 22:58 FaCE_1 wrote: You mean that when you play someone and in the detail, you see X 0 0 0 0 0 . It mean that the guys hacked?
In the case of rex.ring, it could be true that he hacks. But, that isn't always like that. Sometimes you get that X mark when you lost your connection or things like that.
On December 19 2007 06:52 GodsDevil[5thF] wrote: well u can detect that he is hacking, see the game list Units Build. Res. Total Prod. Kill Lost Build Razed Lost Gas Min. Spent inF.Carlo 42 19 25 16 0 2 640 5138 5550 14128 Rex.RinG 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
clear evidence of a hack.
it happens for example when a guy has x actions in '5' in bwchart -> oblivion's automine function. X 0 0 0 0 0 gets a player who use hack with antihack at the same time.
obvious, and dunno why some (exigent?) CAT iccup admin said that rex.ring was clean..
Umm, if you read my post on the previous page, I state that I DO THINK HE IS HACKING. ok?. The reason why I said he might be clean, is because I talked directly with UNK, the owner/operator of the server, and he said it was probably a server glitch. I never said I thought he didn't hack. In fact, that was the reason why I asked unk in the first place. Maybe read a bit better next time
Now, mouse.star has been banned for using the oblivion hack. I finally got replays of him today, and I was able to shut down his account. I also FINALLY got 2 replays of rex.ring that im about to watch.
Cruiser, please don't say it is obvious hack, when the owner/operator of the server doesn't even know what the glitch could be. However, I do think he is hacking, as mouse.star ALSO had those red x's on his last 15 games or so, and he was proven to be using the oblivion hack.
Within the past 3weeks, I have seriously locked over 150 accounts for hacking/cheating. Kind of sickening if you ask me.
Curretly thanks to CruiseR ReX.RinG is under suspicious of using some illegal programes. But we need your help guys. IF anyone got a replay vs ReX.RinG plz sent it to my email adres dice1987@o2.pl or msg me on iccup via pm REplays vs INF.Carlo would be the best soluction in this case, so if anyone knows him and can get replay from him , we would be thankfull.
I meaned ur post from ggnet which sounded like "hi all i am iccup cat admin. rex.ring does not hack" as a response to a guy who accused him to. maybe its not proven, but from my experience 100% people who got x0000 in details hacked.
just tell me if rex.ring has got any game with actions in '5'. i'm quite sure he has.
On December 19 2007 06:52 GodsDevil[5thF] wrote: well u can detect that he is hacking, see the game list Units Build. Res. Total Prod. Kill Lost Build Razed Lost Gas Min. Spent inF.Carlo 42 19 25 16 0 2 640 5138 5550 14128 Rex.RinG 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
clear evidence of a hack.
it happens for example when a guy has x actions in '5' in bwchart -> oblivion's automine function. X 0 0 0 0 0 gets a player who use hack with antihack at the same time.
obvious, and dunno why some (exigent?) CAT iccup admin said that rex.ring was clean..
This is circumstantial evidence. There are cases when you get the X 0 0 0 0 0 without using hacks, for example: disc, or server didnt report the game properly. We need replays to be sure.
On December 20 2007 22:58 FaCE_1 wrote: You mean that when you play someone and in the detail, you see X 0 0 0 0 0 . It mean that the guys hacked?
In the case of rex.ring, it could be true that he hacks. But, that isn't always like that. Sometimes you get that X mark when you lost your connection or things like that.
This is correct but doesn't ICCUP give you an automatic loss if you disconnect/lose connection. There would not be 5-6 games where Rex.Ring would have X's plus a win for his games.
On December 19 2007 06:52 GodsDevil[5thF] wrote: well u can detect that he is hacking, see the game list Units Build. Res. Total Prod. Kill Lost Build Razed Lost Gas Min. Spent inF.Carlo 42 19 25 16 0 2 640 5138 5550 14128 Rex.RinG 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
clear evidence of a hack.
it happens for example when a guy has x actions in '5' in bwchart -> oblivion's automine function. X 0 0 0 0 0 gets a player who use hack with antihack at the same time.
obvious, and dunno why some (exigent?) CAT iccup admin said that rex.ring was clean..
This is circumstantial evidence. There are cases when you get the X 0 0 0 0 0 without using hacks, for example: disc, or server didnt report the game properly. We need replays to be sure.
But still if you always have X and don't have them exactly in all 5 games you abused with a friend id that should be enough proof of cheating imho.
I disabled it because every time my bwchart loads replays it takes too much time and since I save most of the games I play it's like saving almost every single game twice.
On December 21 2007 03:38 eXigent. wrote: Here are 2 replays I have got of rex.ring. Anyone here, feel free to help me analyze them. Both of these games have a red x for rex.ring.
He is too smart to be using the basic automine hack. That would bust him in 2seconds. Help me find anything overly suspicious.
I saw nothing even remotely 'suspicious' in those two reps. If he is maphacking then he must be really good at hiding it because he scouts well and reacts to what he sees. Not many 'reaction/important/deciding moves' though, so it's hard to get any info from those reps (I haven't looked around in BWChart). We shouldn't be so quick to judge, most good players sometimes make important proxy scoutings and other suspicious actions by instinct.
I watched the rex.Ring replays and i'm 99% sure hes hacking. He uses autobuild hack. I'm not toss user so i ask you guys: Is it possible in ONE SECOUND to do this operations:
True, but wouldn't that only be possible if he was using hotkeys?. It's just hard to imagine he manually clicked on 4 gateways, and hit Z, all in 1 second. With hotkeys, yeah maybe you could, but could you really select gateway hit z, select gateway, hit z?
The oblivion hack has a feature that is autobuild. Maybe this could be it?. Either way, im pretty uncertain.
About the one second-9 actions, I think it has nothing to do about hacking since many players can do that easily. You just have to click on gateways and press z. Some can do it very fast.
I was going to say that he probably just did 4z5z6z7t8z, but looking at the screenshot he didn't use any hotkeys? That does seem really fast, although he might just be a really fast player? Being a zerg player and using 1sd2sd3sd4sh5sh6sh7sh I have no idea how fast the top tosses can select gates manually.
I can assure you it's not as hard as you think. If the gateways are in a line or are close to each other you just move the mouse in one direction and press mouseclick + unit hotkey. A fast player can do that in a second.
On December 21 2007 11:25 BlindObS wrote: I watched the rex.Ring replays and i'm 99% sure hes hacking. He uses autobuild hack. I'm not toss user so i ask you guys: Is it possible in ONE SECOUND to do this operations:
On December 22 2007 01:33 niteReloaded wrote: Every good TvZer can macro like 9 baraxes in ~1 second.
In the replays I looked at, they can do about 4-5 per second and it's the same for Protoss so long as the gates can all fit in one screen. I'm sure you can find instances of 6 in a second, but to do 6 per second every time is rare or non-existent. Nada was mostly doing 5 in a second in the reps I looked at. 9 rax will take about two seconds even for a pro.
Anyway it seems rex.ring was banned o.O btw I talked with A-Yu-Mi and other players that played rex.ring, they all told me they had the impression he was map hacking. A-Yu-Mi seemed also pretty mad about this.
He wasn't banned yet, even though I keep requesting that he is banned. He just transferred to jangso[sam]. Cloud, if you could get a replay or 2 from a-yu-mi, it might help get rid of this guy.
On December 22 2007 07:41 UbRi wrote: oh yes killtherabbit is dino, hotkeys are identical edit: and in the replay I have he's also oblivion hacking so.. I guess it's him ^^
On December 22 2007 07:41 UbRi wrote: oh yes killtherabbit is dino, hotkeys are identical edit: and in the replay I have he's also oblivion hacking so.. I guess it's him ^^
Yeah, I know most all of his accounts and stuff. He was given this account from another piece of shit sgravo or w/e his name is.
On December 21 2007 14:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I was going to say that he probably just did 4z5z6z7t8z, but looking at the screenshot he didn't use any hotkeys? That does seem really fast, although he might just be a really fast player? Being a zerg player and using 1sd2sd3sd4sh5sh6sh7sh I have no idea how fast the top tosses can select gates manually.
its faster to macro by clicking on gates/barracks/facs than using hotkeys actually(i think)
On December 22 2007 02:31 iG.ClouD wrote: Anyway it seems rex.ring was banned o.O btw I talked with A-Yu-Mi and other players that played rex.ring, they all told me they had the impression he was map hacking. A-Yu-Mi seemed also pretty mad about this.
ReX.Ring wasnt banned yet, he had rewritten his stats to other account where as i see is playing fair. I quess we'll never find an in game bwchart proof used oblivion hack as he turned off automine and mass select options. Hovewere In my oppinion he used: see other players mine/gaz/supply and merge info like "your opponent got (1) dt" which are not see-able in bwchart or in game replay, luckily they cause in game "Your connection to b.net has been lost" so after the game player is droped from starcarft and that's causes x x x x x in player profile. That why im for maybe not ip ban but at least lokking ReX.Rine account
If u play vs any sus player the best idea is right after the game write ./where <nick> if he is offline and u got x x x in match list its 99% (ok 50% ) that he hacked. Anyway iccup team are working on this bug
EDIT
UNK just made autodetect hackers option for admins so i quess iccup is 99% safe again =]
Here is an update to the list of hackers caught on iccup. Unk implemented a great new system that catches people using oblivion with the ah on. Here are some notable names.
How reliable is that list Exigent? I am not being insulting I'm just curious, cause some of the names are hard to believe, like Yakuja, who I've played with on East quite a few times and in none of my replays does he use it, nor did I ever get the sense he was hacking (and I'm usually pretty good at catching that)
hi, exigent. say i hacked but i nvr used any kind of hack ( map hack mineral hack etc. in past 5 yrs). i dunno why my name is listed in the hacker list bcuz i srsly didnt hack -.- but i played some games without ah but that doesnt mean i hacked so can u plz bring some proofs? im yakuja-x17 on east thx.
I really think there must be some mistake. I am pretty sure Yakuja doesn't hack. I know he was very upset that these charges are even brought up against him. I think there should be some proof for some of the bigger names
it isn't a mistake. each time you got disconnet from game by launcher (not an oridnarry disconnect, also it means you had it ON before games tart ) your nickname is logged, so even if your opponent won't report you, you will still get a ban.
launcher disconnects you if your sc memory being patched by some 3rd party program. as i know it is called a "hack".
On December 23 2007 10:53 eXigent. wrote: Here is an update to the list of hackers caught on iccup. Unk implemented a great new system that catches people using oblivion with the ah on. Here are some notable names.
mgz)yakuja you are wrong. Go check your 2v2 matchlist. You used a 3rd party hack program 13times. That is not a mistake. You do not accidently load a 3rd party program 13times. Oh btw, your partner yoosh also was caught loading the 3rd party hack program. You cannot talk your way out of BOTH of you being caught.
You got caught the same way every other hacker did. You think your name is on the same list as other hackers by mistake? You loaded a 3rd party program 13times, that is no mistake. Here are some examples.
exigent. if u can .. can u dl the replays of those 13 games and use the bwchart ?? well all 13 games i played wit keeper-frizz i kept getting dc after every single game and i was able to come bak on so i rly didnt care. Im not sure but the 3rd party program which u say i used is called crazyfile which i use to download movies/dramas. BUT plz if u can dl the all 13 games plz use the bwchart and see if i hacked in there..... well.. i asked some admins for help and they say i used advloader which i used on east server about 3 or 4 games vs my friends to see my apm and my friend's so .... plz if u can dl the reps ... do dat ty... ps. if the 3rd party program isnt the crazyfile which i mentioned above is there probabilty that there is virus or spyware or anythin that harms my computer? Does the server tell u which 3rd party program file i used? if it does can u play write that also ? ty ........
And I don't believe Yakuja hacks because he does nothing that would suggest a hack in teh game and in the replays I have of him he has never used it, nor does he seem the kind of person to use it. That's my thought. I just like to think the best of people, and in this case I actually have a reason to.
why should i be banned? you come in here and defend ur friend saying he doesnt hack when he does, not once but 13 different times get over it, The fact that hes in MgZ) makes it even worse
On December 23 2007 14:28 MgZ)yakuja wrote: exigent. if u can .. can u dl the replays of those 13 games and use the bwchart ?? well all 13 games i played wit keeper-frizz i kept getting dc after every single game and i was able to come bak on so i rly didnt care. Im not sure but the 3rd party program which u say i used is called crazyfile which i use to download movies/dramas. BUT plz if u can dl the all 13 games plz use the bwchart and see if i hacked in there..... well.. i asked some admins for help and they say i used advloader which i used on east server about 3 or 4 games vs my friends to see my apm and my friend's so .... plz if u can dl the reps ... do dat ty... ps. if the 3rd party program isnt the crazyfile which i mentioned above is there probabilty that there is virus or spyware or anythin that harms my computer? Does the server tell u which 3rd party program file i used? if it does can u play write that also ? ty ........
Hey fuck off and stop giving canada a bad name, you piece of shit.
Exigent. I think what caused dis 13 suspicious things.... well if u can give me some time to explain i would but seems like none of the admins of iccup dont listen to me...... Well dis is what happened i had ah launcher but it was in my documents folder and i used it to go on iccup server and play but whenever i joined server it said Anti hack status-fail and the 13 games which u mention everytime the game was finished i got booted from server and was able to get back on. Im assuming dis occured the problem. how come the games i played without ah on was fine but not these? I recently dled ah iccup launcher and didnt move it to different folder they worked fine... SO plz just give me a moments to explain it to u if u got msn crazygamer_1@hotmail.com add me plz cuz i rly didnt hack no matter what ppl think
On December 23 2007 16:13 Pendemic wrote: why should i be banned? you come in here and defend ur friend saying he doesnt hack when he does, not once but 13 different times get over it, The fact that hes in MgZ) makes it even worse
He's not my friend you stupid piece of shit, and if you could read you could tell that. You're just trying to fan the flames with every post you make. You go into other threads and post shit from this thread in those threads to try to stir up trouble. All you've posted in your post history is bullshit like all the posts above me here, and you're the kind of person who is far too quick to yell "BURN THE HACKER" without any sort of evidence or proofs. Notice how a lot of people in this thread said Sadist couldn't possibly hack based only on their experience with him, douchebag? That's the way I think about Yakuja. It seems very unlikely that he hacks. I didn't say he doesn't. This kind of shit is hardly fool-proof. We execute people who haven't committed a crime based on evidence strong enough for a jury of 8-15 people to unanimously convict. This is obviously on a far smaller scale but I'm saying that it's stupid to take such an incredibly biased side so quickly.
On December 23 2007 16:13 Pendemic wrote: why should i be banned? you come in here and defend ur friend saying he doesnt hack when he does, not once but 13 different times get over it, The fact that hes in MgZ) makes it even worse
You should be banned because every single one of your fucking posts so far is a crock of steaming shit.
Maybe you could have a look at the Yakuja reps? Isn't it possible that another 3rd party program like Crazyfile (whatever the heck that is) could be mistaken for a malicious one?
Pendemic, before you go on about how I'm "protecting my friend Yakuja" from hack accusations or whatever other bullshit it is that you spew, I'd never even heard of him until now, I'm just against the idea of someone being wrongfully crucified for an offense they didn't commit. If it turns out he did hack after all, by all means ban and shun him, but at least check the reps/investigate a bit deeper first.
Basically what hes saying is. he went to www.bwhacks.com downloaded the iccup launcher (the one that allows hacks) tried to connect with it and got caught 13 different times
On December 23 2007 16:13 Pendemic wrote: why should i be banned? you come in here and defend ur friend saying he doesnt hack when he does, not once but 13 different times get over it, The fact that hes in MgZ) makes it even worse
You should be banned because every single one of your fucking posts so far is a crock of steaming shit.
Maybe you could have a look at the Yakuja reps? Isn't it possible that another 3rd party program like Crazyfile (whatever the heck that is) could be mistaken for a malicious one?
Pendemic, before you go on about how I'm "protecting my friend Yakuja" from hack accusations or whatever other bullshit it is that you spew, I'd never even heard of him until now, I'm just against the idea of someone being wrongfully crucified for an offense they didn't commit. If it turns out he did hack after all, by all means ban and shun him, but at least check the reps/investigate a bit deeper first.
you say yakuja isnt ur friend but hes 1 name on a list of like 30 all u seem to want to do is defend hakuja, you my friend are full of shit. i went to iccup server to try and help yak and iccup.raven banned him right in front of me saying he hack 13 different times YOU need to get all the facts
Did you use advloader on iccup cuz when i tested that program and went to play iccup i was with ah on and got disconected from iccup every few mins but then i started one 2v2 game and i saw that i got disc and x on profile and i coulda see apm live on me and some guy from the other team so i was wtf!?! advloader is in iccup launcher but i was wrong and unstalled advloader and everything was ok after it..
Skela my answer is no becuz as far as i remember i didnt see opponent's apms and i only used it on east server 3 or 4 times vs my friend's to see apm's. I didnt know advloader was the serious thing that i shouldnt be using. Im not sure if i was using advloader or not but according what u just if i was using advloader it shoulda showed the apm's of players but it didnt so i think i wasnt using advloader.
Personally your story has way too many holes in it for me. How do you not know if you were using advloader? You obviously know exactly what it does, and therefore how can you say you dont know if you had it on or not, for 13games in a row. That shows me that your story is wrong, as we both clearly know you are smarter than you are making yourself out to be.
I will tell you that advloader is an illegal program that allows you to see your opponents private data, and it is 100% illegal on our webpage. If you read the rules, you would know that. So basically, you either loaded oblivion, or you loaded advloader, and used it in an illegal fashion, such as looking at your opponents private data.
Perhaps we could of talked like civilized individuals, if your story was alot more to the point, and had more truth to it. You first off flat out denied the use of any programs, then you blamed your music sharing program, which has NOTHING to do with our server. You 100% knew you loaded advloader, and still you tried saying it was your music program that set off our hack detector. That is a lie, and we both know it.
Admit that you used advloader 13times in a row, rather than first say you used it on b.net, and then when it came to iccup, you had no idea it was even on. Of course you knew it was on, and of course you knew exactly what it did. Don't you think, after the first 2 games you got disconnected, you would of shut if off, realizing that its ILLEGAL. But, no you didn't, you continued to use it for another 11games.
Don't come on here playing some innocent card, when you know damn well what you did. ADVLoader in my mind allows you a better advantage over your opponent, and using it will hands down, always result in an IP ban.
Maybe YOU should provide those 13replays, as you are the one that has them. Not me. But it doesn't matter, because either way, we proved that you used an illegal program.
BTW, im just making the assumption that what you said is correct, and that it was ADVLoader, and not the ICCup oblivion/maphack . Those are the only 2 programs that you could of used, and maybe you need to just come out and say it.
EDIT: Just to add 1 more thing. When you load ADVLoader, you can then 100% load any dll into the game. So, when you open ADVLoader, it will allow you to load oblivion.dll. That is why 3rd party programs are ILLEGAL. Who's to say you didnt inject any dll's.
exigent.. i turn on bw 24/7 and afk most of time east/asia/euro and those 13 games i think i wasnt using advloader bcuz like i said apms of players didnt appear. and again like i said can u review those 13 replays. so just give me moments to explain or can u guys review the reps and send me those reps? AND SRSLY i didnt noe like i said disconnecting every game wasnt a serious problem. SO JUST review the replays and use bwchart. TY. AND I THINK I WANST ON ADVLOADER on those 13 games. cuz i only used it once on east server and stopped using it.
No, we don't have your replays. that is up to you to save. Not me. Also, yes you did blame your music/file program
"Im not sure but the 3rd party program which u say i used is called crazyfile which i use to download movies/dramas."
Crazyfile doesnt affect this in ANYWAY. You are sitting here, lieing to me 100%. I know already that you loaded either ADVLoader, or oblivion hack, OR BOTH. Now please, you will not get another response from me until you admit that.
We are going around in circles, and you could sit there and continue to act really stupid about this whole thing, or face it like a man. Contact your team partner, and ask him for the replays.
basically he doesnt want to get kicked from mgz) so he wants to make it look like it was advloader but not admit to using it, whos to say it wasent oblvion, and btw yak lies he has reps from 6 months ago .... and anti hack has auto replay so what is he talking about
Exigent, the problem with advloader is that it runs automatically everytime u run brood war if its on the default setting passive. It it even runs after you restart your computer. And when it does run it gives no indication that it has been loaded on your computer. The only indication is the functions it has on your brood war screen when you play.
If yakuja was lying about his story, he would go along with the excuse of the ADVLoader to clear his name of hack. However, i feel like hes sticking to the absolute truth by telling you everyone that had happened and that he is not sure if it was advloader or not.
People who want to defend themselves should at least take some minutes to make their posts legible. All the "i kno u sux k thx lol" talk is not helping at all.
On December 23 2007 16:13 Pendemic wrote: why should i be banned? you come in here and defend ur friend saying he doesnt hack when he does, not once but 13 different times get over it, The fact that hes in MgZ) makes it even worse
You should be banned because every single one of your fucking posts so far is a crock of steaming shit.
Maybe you could have a look at the Yakuja reps? Isn't it possible that another 3rd party program like Crazyfile (whatever the heck that is) could be mistaken for a malicious one?
Pendemic, before you go on about how I'm "protecting my friend Yakuja" from hack accusations or whatever other bullshit it is that you spew, I'd never even heard of him until now, I'm just against the idea of someone being wrongfully crucified for an offense they didn't commit. If it turns out he did hack after all, by all means ban and shun him, but at least check the reps/investigate a bit deeper first.
you say yakuja isnt ur friend but hes 1 name on a list of like 30 all u seem to want to do is defend hakuja, you my friend are full of shit. i went to iccup server to try and help yak and iccup.raven banned him right in front of me saying he hack 13 different times YOU need to get all the facts
I'm only mentioning him because he's the only person on that list who's actively arguing it in this thread.
On December 24 2007 04:57 Pendemic wrote: why do you kids needs this advloader anyways? isnt it cheating?
on iccup it is since they banned any third party programs other than their launcher, but the program itself isnt specifically a hack/cheat of any sort i dont think.
On December 24 2007 04:57 Pendemic wrote: why do you kids needs this advloader anyways? isnt it cheating?
on iccup it is since they banned any third party programs other than their launcher, but the program itself isnt specifically a hack/cheat of any sort i dont think.
The program allows you to see your opponents APM, among other things, which causes an unfair advantage. The program also allows you to import oblivion.dll into your game.
The main reason we ban people for using advloader is because of that threat. Who's to say someone didnt load the oblivion.dll, but blamed it only on ADVLoader. It would be impossible for us to tell the difference, and that would cause ALOT of people to abuse this.
Personally, people need to read the rules before playing somewhere. This conversation however is going in circles. mgz)yakuja you can PM unk about being unbanned, I have only done my job.
like i said b4 i used advloader exigent. i wont deny it but i didnt use it on iccup server. i told u dis about 3 or 4 times alrdy. dont u read my posts at all? What i am asking u is can u help me cuz i think i can prove why dis occured. and beside like u said im a national member. why would i use cheats to win games vs D+ gamers in 2v2. I think hacks r used to win the serious games. So anywayz can u help me prove dis to u ? becuz not even a single admin of iccup server listens to me and only say that i hacked 100 percent. SO PLZ give me time to explain? why do all iccup admins ignore me cuz u guys think i hack ? rnt u suppose to listen any iccup players? well thx for reading my posts oO;; ps. plz just dont ignore me give me time to explain thx.
Oh btw only advloader is third party program? i wish to noe cuz when i use crazyfile and play bw it lags a bit but its playable. Many times i played i paused games and asked opponents to wait so i could turn off crazyfile for no lag games. Well the fact is i noe u dont trust me so plz give me time to explain thx. since i work on 10am to 11pm est most of days it would be nice if u add me on msn crazygamer_1@hotmail.com thx.
Ok so the fact is i used advloader but i used it vs evets-x17 which is my best friend on bw. to check the apm and stuff only 3 or 4 games. exigent. so u said advloader isnt a hack file but it gave me some advantages rite? if i used it on iccup it shoulda showed me the opponent's apms in the game but it didnt see the apm's on the screen. Thx but exigent i said crazyfile i used it for movie/drama i didnt mention music thx.
Hack is any program thats made by 3rd party program. And yes, that includes ADVloader. I don't understand how they would detect "hack" if you haven't had ADVloader loaded up while playing ICCUP. Either you are lying or ICCUP has a false Hack detection which I highly doubt. Exigent did a thorough job explaining it and I just don't understand where you're coming from. He even said crazyfile doesn't have any effect on iccup launcher. You keep pointing that out as if it will prove you innocent. Pointing out an IRRELEVANT program into this issue seems childish. Unless you admit having a third party program RELATED to starcraft, you'll be seen as hacker by many.
You need to do a better job explaining your situation without saying sarcastic "thx" zillion times. It will only make you look like a fool.
well i also kept saying i want to explain to them but they, the iccup admins dont even talk to me i keep saying thx cuz i am sry for all dis troubles. and I dont think he pointed out crazy file bcuz he didnt even noe what it is. Well i can see that exigent. u r doing ur job but can u atleast understand my situation and talk to me?
oh and one more thing advloader shows the apm of players rite. like i said many times when i played iccup i didnt see any players apm so when i was on iccup advloader wasnt turned on.
This was already asked but seeing as E-drama threw down 1 1/2 pages of spam I'd like to ask: Who is HolyShit? I will try to get replays uploaded if no one already knows who it is.
On December 24 2007 15:30 MgZ)yakuja wrote: oh and one more thing advloader shows the apm of players rite. like i said many times when i played iccup i didnt see any players apm so when i was on iccup advloader wasnt turned on.
How fucking old are you? If you cant spell start spell checking your goddamn posts.
On December 25 2007 08:27 HonkHonkBeep wrote: Not sure if you're being sarcastic but I guess that that would be Maix, since that's Maix posting and it's the same flag ;o
I was being semi-sarcastic because at first I didn't recognize the flag :p
Who's this mexican Changes guy? he kind of raped me 4 times in a row and now he's in top20. Zerg. Can it be StYm? I don't remember many mexican zergs... perhaps someone could enlighten me .
On December 27 2007 01:18 Shauni wrote: Who's this mexican Changes guy? he kind of raped me 4 times in a row and now he's in top20. Zerg. Can it be StYm? I don't remember many mexican zergs... perhaps someone could enlighten me .
Post the reps! We can only guess; reps are needed for analysis.
On December 27 2007 01:18 Shauni wrote: Who's this mexican Changes guy? he kind of raped me 4 times in a row and now he's in top20. Zerg. Can it be StYm? I don't remember many mexican zergs... perhaps someone could enlighten me .
Post the reps! We can only guess; reps are needed for analysis.
I don't think he is mexican, since the only mexicans zergs that could go that high and have his lvl, are stym and gisenm, but stym doesn't play anymore, and he didn't play zvt, and gisenm just comming back from being retired, so it can't be him. So he is probably faking flag, maybe he is castro..
On December 27 2007 10:19 HellOw- wrote: I don't think he is mexican, since the only mexicans zergs that could go that high and have his lvl, are stym and gisenm, but stym doesn't play anymore, and he didn't play zvt, and gisenm just comming back from being retired, so it can't be him. So he is probably faking flag, maybe he is castro..
Going mass drops and turtling is smart and all especially while building up eco for late game, but god it is sooo lame. Protoss bit right into though as he should have gone for some sort of tech change such as reaver/sair or even carrier lmao.
just getting good ladder rank means so little about your playskill , he can get A+ on every ladder and lose showmatches to sYz and can't win CW matches in Division 1 and stuff, so then what good does the rank do you? =o
On December 30 2007 17:05 Xeris wrote: just getting good ladder rank means so little about your playskill , he can get A+ on every ladder and lose showmatches to sYz and can't win CW matches in Division 1 and stuff, so then what good does the rank do you? =o
Atleast he plays in clanwar matches, and actually gets invited to showmatches. You just host them.
On December 30 2007 17:05 Xeris wrote: just getting good ladder rank means so little about your playskill , he can get A+ on every ladder and lose showmatches to sYz and can't win CW matches in Division 1 and stuff, so then what good does the rank do you? =o
Atleast he plays in clanwar matches, and actually gets invited to showmatches. You just host them.
No need to be hostile. Xeris wasn't being hostile. He's just making a good point for a who is who thread. Great stats and/or a high rank doesn't necessarily indicate a good player or a famous player. It's something to keep in mind when trying to find out aka's rather than automatically narrowing down the possible aka's to a select few.
On December 30 2007 17:05 Xeris wrote: just getting good ladder rank means so little about your playskill , he can get A+ on every ladder and lose showmatches to sYz and can't win CW matches in Division 1 and stuff, so then what good does the rank do you? =o
What's the big deal on losing showmatches to sYz ? 8D
hehehe the only problem its that xeris its probably jelous;; i not play for him so i dont really care what he think, i play because this game its something special and he cant feel that feeling because he sux;; anyway HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS
On December 31 2007 03:09 Tarmak_mk wrote: hehehe the only problem its that xeris its probably jelous;; i not play for him so i dont really care what he think, i play because this game its something special and he cant feel that feeling because he sux;; anyway HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS
1) I'm not jealous (lol) 2) Are you saying people who aren't good at BW can't get enjoyment out of it? I have lots of fun playing C- people.
I've looked around everywhere for this and I can't seem to find the season lenght for iCCup? I remember it was 3 months or something but I'm not sure. I know season 3 started at around december 10th, but I'd like to know when it ends. Sorry for posting this in this thread ><
On December 31 2007 06:10 skyglow1 wrote: I've looked around everywhere for this and I can't seem to find the season lenght for iCCup? I remember it was 3 months or something but I'm not sure. I know season 3 started at around december 10th, but I'd like to know when it ends. Sorry for posting this in this thread ><
He is NOT xLo.CaStrO, He is another latin zerg player, NOT mexican, I know who he is, but I can´t tell you, what I can tell you is that some people think he hacks, but there isn´t enough proof.
On January 01 2008 14:16 Mr.Evil wrote: He is NOT xLo.CaStrO, He is another latin zerg player, NOT mexican, I know who he is, but I can´t tell you, what I can tell you is that some people think he hacks, but there isn´t enough proof.
On January 01 2008 14:16 Mr.Evil wrote: He is NOT xLo.CaStrO, He is another latin zerg player, NOT mexican, I know who he is, but I can´t tell you, what I can tell you is that some people think he hacks, but there isn´t enough proof.
Stop. Fucking. Doing. This.
lol yeah i hate this, "i know who he is, but i can't tell you" wtf... as if hes bisu or savior or some shit.
On December 31 2007 06:10 skyglow1 wrote: I've looked around everywhere for this and I can't seem to find the season lenght for iCCup? I remember it was 3 months or something but I'm not sure. I know season 3 started at around december 10th, but I'd like to know when it ends. Sorry for posting this in this thread ><
anyone know the answer to this?
The reason they don't' have it anywhere is because they don't really have it set in stone. I was 2 games from B- last season when they suddenly had the server problem and decided to just start a new season when it came back. Previously the season was supposed to last for a whole extra week before it restarted...
On January 01 2008 10:29 IdrA wrote: does froz play outside of wcg time? i know nyokens been playing a decent amount with friends on east and stuff, he seems the most plausible
I don't THINK it's Froz, ya I guess Nyoken is possible, it's not Assem is it?
On January 01 2008 14:16 Mr.Evil wrote: He is NOT xLo.CaStrO, He is another latin zerg player, NOT mexican, I know who he is, but I can´t tell you, what I can tell you is that some people think he hacks, but there isn´t enough proof.
On December 31 2007 06:10 skyglow1 wrote: I've looked around everywhere for this and I can't seem to find the season lenght for iCCup? I remember it was 3 months or something but I'm not sure. I know season 3 started at around december 10th, but I'd like to know when it ends. Sorry for posting this in this thread ><
On January 01 2008 10:29 IdrA wrote: does froz play outside of wcg time? i know nyokens been playing a decent amount with friends on east and stuff, he seems the most plausible
I don't THINK it's Froz, ya I guess Nyoken is possible, it's not Assem is it?
doubt it, he doesnt play much and when he does its on west with friends.
On December 31 2007 06:10 skyglow1 wrote: I've looked around everywhere for this and I can't seem to find the season lenght for iCCup? I remember it was 3 months or something but I'm not sure. I know season 3 started at around december 10th, but I'd like to know when it ends. Sorry for posting this in this thread ><
anyone know the answer to this?
The season ends in the last day of february.
Thank you very much ^_^ That gives me tons of time to play :D
On January 03 2008 08:15 jimminy_kriket wrote: Really? I dont think so, yosh does 1-0 to his cc all reps i could find, 1_ only does like 1-3 and 6-0 or something, each game.
On January 03 2008 08:15 jimminy_kriket wrote: Really? I dont think so, yosh does 1-0 to his cc all reps i could find, 1_ only does like 1-3 and 6-0 or something, each game.
in the replays of yosh i found, he does 2-3 and 6-0 cc, donno what replays you were looking at
who is wal9 "Korean" Toss with apm +-155 I played him and was impressed with his skills (lost of course). Myself I am playing with HornyDog Btw, most of those TL.netters have 0-0 or atleast less then 10 games, imho remove those.
On January 09 2008 21:48 likeaboss wrote: retje = id.ret and yes, hes still very damn good lol ;(
He raped me 2-0 yesterday... ret takes a wopping 3 days or so to get completely unrusty. He however will come in here and deny this as all the "top" players do. Its better to win while "rusty" and have the invincible excuse of "rust" when you lose Thats why players always say things like that!
Cut the crap octzerg, as far as I know you asked admins to ban him for maphack (just because now everyone knows you are a newbie who plays only all in shit everytime you should consider yourself lucky you are still winning some games anyway), disconnected after a lost game and asked an admin to refund your points and insulted him after each loss. Who would be manner to such a bastard?
nah i was more guessing snowman is suncow dunno why, but his hotkeys are very similar to paranoids or blackmans 1-6 hatch, 0-7 units as zerg, and apm around 280.
cloud shhh noobie u find to tell me about manner? when u lose it u cry all the time;; btw i really not care if im noobie or not but i will accept that im noobie if tell me some gosu players but u? come on we all know that ur noob too so pls STFU~ i know u in ur real life u f*****g EMO kid u can DIE with ur DEATH METAL MUSIC
On January 11 2008 11:42 Tarmak_mk wrote: cloud shhh noobie u find to tell me about manner? when u lose it u cry all the time;; btw i really not care if im noobie or not but i will accept that im noobie if tell me some gosu players but u? come on we all know that ur noob too so pls STFU~
Yeah fuck that noob ToT)ClouD(. Wtf is ToT) anyways, some chobo clan on USEast? Must be noobs only if they let ClouD in!
On January 11 2008 05:14 FalliNinLove wrote: nah i was more guessing snowman is suncow dunno why, but his hotkeys are very similar to paranoids or blackmans 1-6 hatch, 0-7 units as zerg, and apm around 280.
sounds more like blackman, paranoid isnt that fast is he?
You know what I find funny octzerg is the fact you think you are a good player even if you just can win your games going 3 hat ling 3 hat hids or fast guardians. Well I think everyone sometimes is a bitch after a disappointing lose but the difference is that I can apologize after that, you keep acting like an idiot. Well anyway even if I was a newbie, bad manner or whatever you think you haven't got the rights to say paranoid is bad mannered because he's one of the nicest guys out there. Oh well I suppose people already know that anyway.
On January 11 2008 11:42 Tarmak_mk wrote:u f*****g EMO kid u can DIE with ur DEATH METAL MUSIC
I won't comment this but I actually think it's pretty funny that a guy over 22 years old can finish his post like that
u dont need to comment... because ur stupid anyway i not think that im good... im noob like u and i still rape u... but the thing its that i speaked with gosia and we solve the problem and ur still such a noobie...
On January 11 2008 12:23 Tarmak_mk wrote: u dont need to comment... because ur stupid anyway i not think that im good... im noob like u and i still rape u... but the thing its that i speaked with gosia and we solve the problem and ur still such a noobie...
because midian/romad/the other dude who checked hotkeys dont post in whos who threads anymore so theres no real discussion of aka's and people get bored.
Well I'm sorry I didn't want to take the bait and flame in this thread again but it's kinda hard to stay calm when random people is talking shit about your friends Anyway yes people should start posting akas again on this thread. I know just tauros = mgz)mana and pierogi = mistrzzz/nokia
On January 11 2008 21:22 arew wrote: and toma217 is some russian player not korean im 100% sure about it :d dunno who is he, might be interesting.
Mb Advocate ? or Androide ^^ I think toma217 is someone from Russia too, and in his profile on location we all can see "Russia". So, only Advocate or androide so good to rich so high ranks.
On January 11 2008 05:14 FalliNinLove wrote: nah i was more guessing snowman is suncow dunno why, but his hotkeys are very similar to paranoids or blackmans 1-6 hatch, 0-7 units as zerg, and apm around 280.
sounds more like blackman, paranoid isnt that fast is he?
On January 11 2008 13:05 Manifesto7 wrote: Why do all of these threads always end up as complete cluster fucks of BM? Can I just close it?
Because as skill level increases, the prominence of bm/arrogance/cockiness increases too. In a thread where the top players are being discussed, it's not surprising that we'll have a show of this BM stuff too.
Wow Nony at 40-0 >< I wonder how far he's gonna go.
I think ICCUP should make an anti newb bashing rule OO;; ever match on this guy's first page is sub 50% win-rate . sad.
lol I just saw the 2nd page too and most of them were -50% too. There you go folks. Guide to getting B- in ICCUP!
Who cares, you can play against who you want. Just when you play against peoples with 50% win ratio you dont improve that fast as against good players. Its his self problem, not anyone else. He can do it free. --;
I think ICCUP should make an anti newb bashing rule OO;; ever match on this guy's first page is sub 50% win-rate . sad.
Why does it matter? It is his loss, he is wasting his own time. When he eventually plays someone good, it will just mean he gets owned that much harder.
Haha that replay wasn't a good showing... Just some cheese attempt that Terran sees a mile away cuz of missing probe. From there, a C+ Terran could've wrapped it up
I checked the rep against like 200 replays and the closest I got was by.flash, but its slightly off so I dont thinks its him. Need more reps of holyshit to see if he uses the same hotkeys every game.
On January 13 2008 07:39 NonY[rC] wrote: Haha that replay wasn't a good showing... Just some cheese attempt that Terran sees a mile away cuz of missing probe. From there, a C+ Terran could've wrapped it up
Question Nony: ever have any positive comments on any games....ever? Or is everyone just a newb who can't see what you see?
On January 13 2008 07:39 NonY[rC] wrote: Haha that replay wasn't a good showing... Just some cheese attempt that Terran sees a mile away cuz of missing probe. From there, a C+ Terran could've wrapped it up
Question Nony: ever have any positive comments on any games....ever? Or is everyone just a newb who can't see what you see?
On January 13 2008 07:39 NonY[rC] wrote: Haha that replay wasn't a good showing... Just some cheese attempt that Terran sees a mile away cuz of missing probe. From there, a C+ Terran could've wrapped it up
Question Nony: ever have any positive comments on any games....ever? Or is everyone just a newb who can't see what you see?
i've had positive comments... i tried to phrase my last comment carefully. i put my opinion that it wasn't a good showing, but i also point out what i saw so that people could judge for themselves. if you think T's notice of and reaction to the proxy were high level stuff, then we just have different opinions. that's not to say Hery[hyo] (who I think was playing) is incapable of being impressive. but i think if you asked hery[hyo] for a replay that shows his skills, that one would not even come close. and there is much more to going 177-27 on iccup than games like that.
Reposting that at every oppurtunity to show that you beat him?
Can you nubs stop hating on someone for being proud? I beat Sea/Pusan/jaedong etc and every chance I get I brag about it (like now!). Its fucking amazing when someone upsets a big name pro and they have every right to be proud of it (within reason).
PS first one to find me gets a cookie I havent played ICCUP since season one but I starting now.. going around 15 games a day (just started) and enjoying it. Some questions that I am sure are idiotic:
Does te AH really work? To what extent? Is Oblivion blocked? I expect some shutups or maybe just get ignored.. but 1 person answering would be nice
On January 15 2008 07:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote: PS first one to find me gets a cookie I havent played ICCUP since season one but I starting now.. going around 15 games a day (just started) and enjoying it. Some questions that I am sure are idiotic:
Does te AH really work? To what extent? Is Oblivion blocked? I expect some shutups or maybe just get ignored.. but 1 person answering would be nice
No the AH doesn't work, as shown by the huge amounts of hacker complaints (ie opponents with AH on but who still manage to hack). As far as I know oblivion isn't blocked unless they updated the launcher recently or something.
On January 15 2008 07:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote: PS first one to find me gets a cookie I havent played ICCUP since season one but I starting now.. going around 15 games a day (just started) and enjoying it. Some questions that I am sure are idiotic:
On January 15 2008 07:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote: PS first one to find me gets a cookie I havent played ICCUP since season one but I starting now.. going around 15 games a day (just started) and enjoying it. Some questions that I am sure are idiotic:
Does te AH really work? To what extent? Is Oblivion blocked? I expect some shutups or maybe just get ignored.. but 1 person answering would be nice
No the AH doesn't work, as shown by the huge amounts of hacker complaints (ie opponents with AH on but who still manage to hack). As far as I know oblivion isn't blocked unless they updated the launcher recently or something.
Thats kinda depressing >_< Ah well.. mass gaming DOES help and WGT is about as inactive as it gets... game on garth.
PS: those are not my akas. It will probably become pretty clear as I advance the ranks being the only zerg player on the damn ladder rofl
maybe you will get to play vs a HACKER, because Oblivion can work with AH, BUT, the AHL saves in a registry every person who launched a 3rd party program with the launcher, and then, the admins ban that user, (doesn't matter if it was ADVloader or Hack), if you use 3rd party program = banned.
So you don't have to worry about playing a hacker if both have AH On.
On January 15 2008 07:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote: PS first one to find me gets a cookie I havent played ICCUP since season one but I starting now.. going around 15 games a day (just started) and enjoying it. Some questions that I am sure are idiotic:
Does te AH really work? To what extent? Is Oblivion blocked? I expect some shutups or maybe just get ignored.. but 1 person answering would be nice
No the AH doesn't work, as shown by the huge amounts of hacker complaints (ie opponents with AH on but who still manage to hack). As far as I know oblivion isn't blocked unless they updated the launcher recently or something.
lol, you are funny xDDD
there is not any working with antihack public hack. antihack will drop you within two minutes if you have some 3rd party program patching sc memory. Though the hacker can try to first start a game, then load his hacks, he won't recieve any pts in any case. Also, all the hack attempts are logged. If you think i am wrong - just google for working hack and try to GET PTS with it . this will be the perfect proof of my words>.<
unk is right. I along with iccup.juppi are the super admins for the CAT team, and I can say that you cannot use a hack on iccup, and get away with it, it will be logged, and we will ban you.
jimminy_kriket yes, you will be banned for using advloader. We clearly state that using ADVLoader will result in a ban. So, I suggest not having it loaded next time you connect.
On January 15 2008 07:50 jimminy_kriket wrote: Everytime I log on with ADVLoader im being logged as a hacker? I hope I dont get banned
if you are trying to run both anti-hack and advloader simoultenously - yes. if you tried it more 3 times your account will be locked as admins will check the logs
On January 15 2008 07:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote: PS first one to find me gets a cookie I havent played ICCUP since season one but I starting now.. going around 15 games a day (just started) and enjoying it. Some questions that I am sure are idiotic:
Does te AH really work? To what extent? Is Oblivion blocked? I expect some shutups or maybe just get ignored.. but 1 person answering would be nice
No the AH doesn't work, as shown by the huge amounts of hacker complaints (ie opponents with AH on but who still manage to hack). As far as I know oblivion isn't blocked unless they updated the launcher recently or something.
lol, you are funny xDDD
there is not any working with antihack public hack. antihack will drop you within two minutes if you have some 3rd party program patching sc memory. Though the hacker can try to first start a game, then load his hacks, he won't recieve any pts in any case. Also, all the hack attempts are logged. If you think i am wrong - just google for working hack and try to GET PTS with it . this will be the perfect proof of my words>.<
Really? O_O That's a nice surprise I haven't run into many hackers out of 50 or so games so far anyway.
Usually the complaints I handle are against people that are NOT using the antihack. The rest of the complaints are pretty much drophack related. ( which also usually solve themselves)
All in all, with the updates provided by unk, the anti-hack is great. When oblivion became rampant a month or so ago, we had alot of inital complaints, but because unk and the tech crew are always working hard, the antihack was updated, and pretty much eliminated the chaos. So a big thanks goes out to them, for the hard work!
strange to have the adv loader built into the launcher and yet ban people for it >_< Thank god I have only played on 1 spree thus far... will disable it I guess? I recommend you guys change it in the next patch so it isnt auto enabled.. or perhaps I am just wrong.
Reposting that at every oppurtunity to show that you beat him?
Can you nubs stop hating on someone for being proud? I beat Sea/Pusan/jaedong etc and every chance I get I brag about it (like now!). Its fucking amazing when someone upsets a big name pro and they have every right to be proud of it (within reason).
Reposting that at every oppurtunity to show that you beat him?
Can you nubs stop hating on someone for being proud? I beat Sea/Pusan/jaedong etc and every chance I get I brag about it (like now!). Its fucking amazing when someone upsets a big name pro and they have every right to be proud of it (within reason).
Just stop ragging
lol "etc"
yup there is a lot more I can list some off the top of my head if you would like! Oh who the hell am I kidding of course ganfei the troll would like to hear about them!
Well lets see: By.Flash By.Cozy By.Hero By.Cure By.Probe Zergstory_namoo TheMarine July Hero_V_ Assem Legionnaire rekrul Grrrr Much[gm] u-238[GnH]
There are many more but I cant remember.. I am at the library atm but when I am home I can check through the replays. Lots of these were from early PGT seasons but some are from organized matches on west.
Reposting that at every oppurtunity to show that you beat him?
Can you nubs stop hating on someone for being proud? I beat Sea/Pusan/jaedong etc and every chance I get I brag about it (like now!). Its fucking amazing when someone upsets a big name pro and they have every right to be proud of it (within reason).
Just stop ragging
OMG! One time many moons ago I beat Incontrol PvP in a WGT game (lol!) I think it was like Season 9 or 10 of WGT when he was still 88) . Yep, that was my biggest win everrrr!
I was drunk and outof practice dealing with the loss of both my parents while feeding my kid sister via a bottle. Also lets not forget I played all mouse no sound with other peoples gear + Show Spoiler +
inside joke if anyone gets that
AND I had sunglasses on in a dark room.
but yeah, it was a close game that I couldn't believe I lost. but I didnt care I'd 15-0 with reps offline with money on the line nub SM? Meet in clan x17 on east server /w TooGood4u gg
On January 15 2008 09:38 {88}iNcontroL wrote: strange to have the adv loader built into the launcher and yet ban people for it >_< Thank god I have only played on 1 spree thus far... will disable it I guess? I recommend you guys change it in the next patch so it isnt auto enabled.. or perhaps I am just wrong.
ADV Loader isn't built into the launcher is it? I only see Chaos Plugin in the settings.
Reposting that at every oppurtunity to show that you beat him?
Can you nubs stop hating on someone for being proud? I beat Sea/Pusan/jaedong etc and every chance I get I brag about it (like now!). Its fucking amazing when someone upsets a big name pro and they have every right to be proud of it (within reason).
Just stop ragging
lol "etc"
yup there is a lot more I can list some off the top of my head if you would like! Oh who the hell am I kidding of course ganfei the troll would like to hear about them!
Well lets see: By.Flash By.Cozy By.Hero By.Cure By.Probe Zergstory_namoo TheMarine July Hero_V_ Assem Legionnaire rekrul Grrrr Much[gm] u-238[GnH]
There are many more but I cant remember.. I am at the library atm but when I am home I can check through the replays. Lots of these were from early PGT seasons but some are from organized matches on west.
Im not trying to be difficult I just see no difference, how can you tell them apart?
ninja edited stupidness
Mind's spam is completely different. He also puts cc on 0,9 and fac on 3,4,5,6 etc after he puts cc from 3 to 2. His hotkeys are pretty much like NaDa's
at some point (probably end of the season) I will make a rep pack with all my ICCUP games from the autoreplay folder. Should I blog it or make a thread?
On January 19 2008 08:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote: at some point (probably end of the season) I will make a rep pack with all my ICCUP games from the autoreplay folder. Should I blog it or make a thread?
Should probably make it a thread as more people will see it. Blogs probably get looked over fairly often.
On January 19 2008 08:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote: at some point (probably end of the season) I will make a rep pack with all my ICCUP games from the autoreplay folder. Should I blog it or make a thread?
Well I'm also planning to make a replay pack at the end of the season. What if we ask other ToTs that played ICCup too this season and make an huge one?
On January 20 2008 03:57 Ota Solgryn wrote: Who is Minus)R.Hsama. Zerg player that just got A+ and is number one. Really curious about this. Also would be nice with some reps of this guy?
Probably some pro-gamer, 100+ wins-10 losses is pretty hard for any amateur/extremely good player.
:O Light[alive] was a beast going something like 87-4 XD
On January 20 2008 03:57 Ota Solgryn wrote: Who is Minus)R.Hsama. Zerg player that just got A+ and is number one. Really curious about this. Also would be nice with some reps of this guy?
i think that ToT)Cloud( played like 3 game against him..maybe he ca tell us something
lol? I played him and he isn't anything near the progamer level, besides, my friend, who is chobo, beat him 2-1 easily, and this guy only plays with luck, so if you guys don't know, don't talk.
On January 21 2008 09:22 Mr.Evil wrote: lol? I played him and he isn't anything near the progamer level, besides, my friend, who is chobo, beat him 2-1 easily, and this guy only plays with luck, so if you guys don't know, don't talk.
if you have no proof and no credibility, then don't talk either. there's nothing worse than quoting games without posting the replays. post your game vs him and your friend's three games vs him so people can judge for themselves or don't even mention them. nobody is gonna take your word for it
I don't care if you sad pathetic newbies believe me or not, who cares if a bunch of newbies think that he is progamer? I was just stating that he isn't, but ofcourse, chobos must have a hope
edit: I posted wrong replay =[ actually I don't think I have the replays v R.Hsama but well it doesn't matter since mr.evil is obviously talking nonsense.
edit: I posted wrong replay =[ actually I don't think I have the replays v R.Hsama but well it doesn't matter since mr.evil is obviously talking nonsense.
Well he certainly is not "progamer" level, but he's definitely extremely good...very nice game Cloud, you did really well
Well I've played progamers many times in the past, actually R.Hsama didn't seem to be that far from them in my opinion. But yea, he might not be progamer since his main id on asia is Minus)R.Hsama and I've never seen him in any vod or such.
On January 21 2008 11:23 Mr.Evil wrote: I don't care if you sad pathetic newbies believe me or not, who cares if a bunch of newbies think that he is progamer? I was just stating that he isn't, but ofcourse, chobos must have a hope
On January 21 2008 22:44 coulthard[pR] wrote: Guys post some replays please,its no use if you post 200reps eachof you at the end of the season,c'mon ^^
On January 21 2008 19:20 iG.ClouD wrote: Well I've played progamers many times in the past, actually R.Hsama didn't seem to be that far from them in my opinion. But yea, he might not be progamer since his main id on asia is Minus)R.Hsama and I've never seen him in any vod or such.
Well, maybe is a progamer smurfing, they love to use friend's ids or they pay progamers to play under his ids's so they can be " famous" xD Many posibilities
LOL, and guess whos this MR.Evil gosuguy, none other than the "BEST" mexican progamer here, gH-Hellow (fairy), this guy is cool, but 70% of his time he talks trash LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
On January 22 2008 06:09 kRySto. wrote: LOL, and guess whos this MR.Evil gosuguy, none other than the "BEST" mexican progamer here, gH-Hellow (fairy), this guy is cool, but 70% of his time he talks trash LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
just to clarify, fairy wasn't an insult, he chose to name himself gH-Fairy
On January 21 2008 21:09 ilovev wrote: one korean terran(PureYelun A- with ~ 150-140) own Hsama 2-0, and said to me: "he just ama", no pro.
Yes, PureYelin aka WonderYELYN aka O.s)Pepsijoa (ASIA) is my friend, he beat Hsama easily and showed me replays, and he isn't anything near progamer level, I also played him on another account, I lost, but he is definitely an amateur. Yea I'm gH-Fairy, so what? 44-17 ROFLMAO, that account is from the beginning of the season, I can go just like you did, bashing newbies to go high with nice stats, but there's no point on doing that, since I have nothing to prove.
On January 21 2008 21:09 ilovev wrote: one korean terran(PureYelun A- with ~ 150-140) own Hsama 2-0, and said to me: "he just ama", no pro.
Yes, PureYelin aka WonderYELYN aka O.s)Pepsijoa (ASIA) is my friend, he beat Hsama easily and showed me replays, and he isn't anything near progamer level, I also played him on another account, I lost, but he is definitely an amateur. Yea I'm gH-Fairy, so what? 44-17 ROFLMAO, that account is from the beginning of the season, I can go just like you did, bashing newbies to go high with nice stats, but there's no point on doing that, since I have nothing to prove.
kid the dates of the games are on your list. since january 10 you've gone 8-7 at C+/B- and only one of your losses was against an opponent with >70% wins. does that make you a dodger? by your standards, a player would actually have to dodge players with bad stats in order to not be perceived as a person who dodges players with good stats.
in conclusion, get the fuck off this forum. try to remember it this time
On January 21 2008 21:09 ilovev wrote: one korean terran(PureYelun A- with ~ 150-140) own Hsama 2-0, and said to me: "he just ama", no pro.
Yes, PureYelin aka WonderYELYN aka O.s)Pepsijoa (ASIA) is my friend, he beat Hsama easily and showed me replays, and he isn't anything near progamer level, I also played him on another account, I lost, but he is definitely an amateur. Yea I'm gH-Fairy, so what? 44-17 ROFLMAO, that account is from the beginning of the season, I can go just like you did, bashing newbies to go high with nice stats, but there's no point on doing that, since I have nothing to prove.
kid the dates of the games are on your list. since january 10 you've gone 8-7 at C+/B- and only one of your losses was against an opponent with >70% wins. does that make you a dodger? by your standards, a player would actually have to dodge players with bad stats in order to not be perceived as a person who dodges players with good stats.
in conclusion, get the fuck off this forum. try to remember it this time
Check those maps please, what are they, ROV? Blue Storm? maps where I find hard to win, next week i think (since I don't have alot of time to play lately), I'll reset and get your stats or something similar easily.
Mr.Evil, you've been warned for a post in this thread already.
Stop posting in this thread, nobody cares if you're gosu or not. The rest of you, you hereby officially don't give a shit about Mr.Evil and will post accordingly.
lol, First Of all, I came here trying to help saying that Minus)R.Hsama wasn't progamer, and every1 started flaming me, calling me stupid and such, and I suppose to do nothing?
hey mr.evil can you upload those 2 replays? ? i'd love to see them !
and who is yangminaction ?? i'd realy like to know who he is ... i've never met any canadian terran who is really good (besides schism, but he plays on schism[light])
On January 21 2008 21:09 ilovev wrote: one korean terran(PureYelun A- with ~ 150-140) own Hsama 2-0, and said to me: "he just ama", no pro.
Yes, PureYelin aka WonderYELYN aka O.s)Pepsijoa (ASIA) is my friend, he beat Hsama easily and showed me replays, and he isn't anything near progamer level, I also played him on another account, I lost, but he is definitely an amateur. Yea I'm gH-Fairy, so what? 44-17 ROFLMAO, that account is from the beginning of the season, I can go just like you did, bashing newbies to go high with nice stats, but there's no point on doing that, since I have nothing to prove.
kid the dates of the games are on your list. since january 10 you've gone 8-7 at C+/B- and only one of your losses was against an opponent with >70% wins. does that make you a dodger? by your standards, a player would actually have to dodge players with bad stats in order to not be perceived as a person who dodges players with good stats.
in conclusion, get the fuck off this forum. try to remember it this time
Check those maps please, what are they, ROV? Blue Storm? maps where I find hard to win, next week i think (since I don't have alot of time to play lately), I'll reset and get your stats or something similar easily.
While everyone was getting derailed by mr.evil, apparently the nice folks over at ygosu found iloveoov. Even gg.net has this info before us. epic fail.
NO ONE LOVES FAIRY AHAHAHAHA FAGGGGGGGGGGG. HAS ANYONE FOUND A ROMANSGUY FOR THIS SEASON. WHEN I SAY A "ROMANSGUY" I MEAN SOMEONE WHO HAS PLAYED SO MANY GAMES ALREADY ITS RIDICULOUS! I ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY IMPROVE OFF MASS GAMING OR IF THEY ARE WASTING THEIR TIME TRYING TO BE A ROBOT.
Improvement means better understanding. Massgaming doesn't necessary mean getting better, but it's a necessary step for a talented gamer to unlock his abilities. There are many massgamers on ICCup for example who don't seem to get better at all. It's because they don't put effort in learning, they just play hoping their instinct does the rest.
Watch rep and U have ur proof,,,,, Non koreans r better then this guy.... ALOT better ! This guy has bad control, on that other rep he lost like 2g of marines to 2 lurk, come on. Those hotkeys r pretty common for TvZ, I even use the same, am i oov ?
On January 22 2008 18:39 AnOth3rDAy wrote: iloveoov with 41-8 C+ is he just kidding or is he now officially the worst pro-gamer ever?
He is not oov.
Proof? Please don't talk about things you dont know about without at least providing some proof.
Hotkeys are very close, im sure romad will confirm its him, yaoyuan already did.
Sorry for taking u and Yoshi out from the Forest of Illusion but he is not oov, it's simple. As was said before, similar hk + main race + awesome but not perfect stats ! = not a top notch progamer.
On January 22 2008 16:12 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote: NO ONE LOVES FAIRY AHAHAHAHA FAGGGGGGGGGGG. HAS ANYONE FOUND A ROMANSGUY FOR THIS SEASON. WHEN I SAY A "ROMANSGUY" I MEAN SOMEONE WHO HAS PLAYED SO MANY GAMES ALREADY ITS RIDICULOUS! I ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY IMPROVE OFF MASS GAMING OR IF THEY ARE WASTING THEIR TIME TRYING TO BE A ROBOT.
Here is the next RomanSGuy. He has almost 1000 games played, and typically plays each person 5-6 times in a row.
btw, iloveoov's been injured due to slipping during a shower, which is why he played like shit against Orion in the recent game of TvZ on blade storm. he couldn't practice as much.
hm it's really hard to determine this one. i can't actually identify the player at once. looking at the KTF roster i'd say that no zerg in this team has such hotkeys, so maybe it's someone off-racing, probably Hery, but then again it also might be 815, who might have changed his hotkeys (which were so ugly when he was amateur) as havent seen any 815 rep for a long time
kyo[scm] and g.s)kyo are different people, i think he took the name because he has 400 apm too, but i played him recently on west and asked him and he said he is not in fact g.s)kyo
On January 25 2008 07:45 likeaboss wrote: kyo[scm] and g.s)kyo are different people, i think he took the name because he has 400 apm too, but i played him recently on west and asked him and he said he is not in fact g.s)kyo
I don't think kyo[scm]'s name was influenced by g.s)kyo. He has a 6000 game record on Asia (scm only recently migrated to the west server) so he's had the account for a while. "Kyo" is a common id anyway...there was an n.die_kyo and probably thousands of others.
Regardless, g.s)kyo and kyo[scm] are most definitely different people.
By the way, does anyone know who mukjy is? He has yet to lose a non-mirror game, which is especially impressive because he's playing primarily on blue storm. I'm interested to see which pro is behind that account.
Who is GregoryHouse? He's 49-4, Terran player, just beat Incontrol, and I saw a replay of my friend vs him that my friend lost. I can upload it in a bit.
On January 28 2008 09:05 {88}iNcontroL wrote: someone msg scorpion and tell him to stop moping about his girl problems and update this thread or chill will ban him
On January 28 2008 09:05 {88}iNcontroL wrote: someone msg scorpion and tell him to stop moping about his girl problems and update this thread or chill will ban him
^_^
I'm here. What's to update? o.o
westmensol = progamer korean Shield ThisRedeemeR = ME also Cloud changed his ID to "danceswithstorms" or something, should update that. Oh and "BoliviaFTW" = xlo.castro
On January 28 2008 09:05 {88}iNcontroL wrote: someone msg scorpion and tell him to stop moping about his girl problems and update this thread or chill will ban him
^_^
I'm here. What's to update? o.o
westmensol = progamer korean Shield ThisRedeemeR = ME also Cloud changed his ID to "danceswithstorms" or something, should update that. Oh and "BoliviaFTW" = xlo.castro
And I think there are more o_O
Oh, I saw your thread but I didn't feel like downloading because of my "situation" =PP!!
On January 29 2008 00:00 littlechava wrote: no, because there's only like 5 players above c+ in the history of uk sc
lol.. just because they have a UK flag doesnt mean their from here.. they could be just playing under UK flag.. or take spawn for example, he lives here.
and im sure theres a bit more than 5 players "above" c+ in the "history of uk sc" ;o
zergspc could be my friend who has probaly been smurfing around secretly because he would get bored with zerg and play games as t soemtimes. his aka was osr-reoka but im not sure if he still plays anymore at all or if that is him. if anyone can get reps i can compare hotkeys
On January 29 2008 00:00 littlechava wrote: no, because there's only like 5 players above c+ in the history of uk sc
I heard all Americans are fat. Discuss...
On topic, the first one is Spire[mb], the 2nd and 3rd don't seem like him to me. The stats are too good. That and he has other icc smurfs so with those he'd be approaching 5 accounts.
On January 29 2008 00:00 littlechava wrote: no, because there's only like 5 players above c+ in the history of uk sc
I heard all Americans are fat. Discuss...
On topic, the first one is Spire[mb], the 2nd and 3rd don't seem like him to me. The stats are too good. That and he has other icc smurfs so with those he'd be approaching 5 accounts.
i am ADDICTED to newbie bashing. rofl my life sucks SO bad that nothing is gr9er than getting on iccup and winning ez games. playing against someone B- or lower, the chance of me learning something or improving some skill is about 1% so it's a COMPLETE waste of time but I LOVE IT ahhhhh
ps: in case you are wondering, like 30 of youbicom's losses are on purpose so that i could have an account to kill ppl that are dodging my real accounts.
On January 29 2008 00:00 littlechava wrote: no, because there's only like 5 players above c+ in the history of uk sc
I heard all Americans are fat. Discuss...
On topic, the first one is Spire[mb], the 2nd and 3rd don't seem like him to me. The stats are too good. That and he has other icc smurfs so with those he'd be approaching 5 accounts.
i know hugepecs is sac.. but zergspc.. stats are way too good i think for him. and silverstreet i doubt too
im sure RyanM is nV.bOnus, but not 100% i also seen a sOrun ( backwards is nurOs ) .. so unless tom is playing again, thats a smurf, and if tom is playing, then luke ( keylek ) is most likely playing too, although i really doubt one of those zergs would be him. scorp could possibly even be around there somewhere, but i highly doubt it. and lets not rule out rico.. he seems to have these stints of gaming, doubt he could get some really nice stats or score unless he noob bashed, but i dono. and of course midian.. although if he is in korea then i doubt he would be mass playing iccup ( if he is still there that is )
im sure doki is in there too as Scotland2k7 ( im Scotland2k8 ^^ ) and im sure slick is lurking about somewhere in there
soo many questions, so little answers! im guessing its probably just really all foreigners staying here
and to n3m0: i know who sac is, i would imagine id be a pretty bad nation leader if i didnt know who was who ;o
On January 29 2008 00:00 littlechava wrote: no, because there's only like 5 players above c+ in the history of uk sc
I heard all Americans are fat. Discuss...
On topic, the first one is Spire[mb], the 2nd and 3rd don't seem like him to me. The stats are too good. That and he has other icc smurfs so with those he'd be approaching 5 accounts.
i am ADDICTED to newbie bashing. rofl my life sucks SO bad that nothing is gr9er than getting on iccup and winning ez games. playing against someone B- or lower, the chance of me learning something or improving some skill is about 1% so it's a COMPLETE waste of time but I LOVE IT ahhhhh
ps: in case you are wondering, like 30 of youbicom's losses are on purpose so that i could have an account to kill ppl that are dodging my real accounts.
Wowz Nony so I guess you'd be A+ with a 120-1 record then!!
On January 29 2008 00:00 littlechava wrote: no, because there's only like 5 players above c+ in the history of uk sc
I heard all Americans are fat. Discuss...
On topic, the first one is Spire[mb], the 2nd and 3rd don't seem like him to me. The stats are too good. That and he has other icc smurfs so with those he'd be approaching 5 accounts.
i am ADDICTED to newbie bashing. rofl my life sucks SO bad that nothing is gr9er than getting on iccup and winning ez games. playing against someone B- or lower, the chance of me learning something or improving some skill is about 1% so it's a COMPLETE waste of time but I LOVE IT ahhhhh
ps: in case you are wondering, like 30 of youbicom's losses are on purpose so that i could have an account to kill ppl that are dodging my real accounts.
Wowz Nony so I guess you'd be A+ with a 120-1 record then!!
He would lose alot more if he played on the high ranks, that's why he only noob bash.
On January 30 2008 03:07 likeaboss wrote: zergspc could be my friend who has probaly been smurfing around secretly because he would get bored with zerg and play games as t soemtimes. his aka was osr-reoka but im not sure if he still plays anymore at all or if that is him. if anyone can get reps i can compare hotkeys
Ryan aka bonus aka Reoka hasn't played BW for a while.
On January 29 2008 00:00 littlechava wrote: no, because there's only like 5 players above c+ in the history of uk sc
I heard all Americans are fat. Discuss...
On topic, the first one is Spire[mb], the 2nd and 3rd don't seem like him to me. The stats are too good. That and he has other icc smurfs so with those he'd be approaching 5 accounts.
im sure doki is in there too as Scotland2k7 ( im Scotland2k8 ^^ )
On January 30 2008 03:07 likeaboss wrote: zergspc could be my friend who has probaly been smurfing around secretly because he would get bored with zerg and play games as t soemtimes. his aka was osr-reoka but im not sure if he still plays anymore at all or if that is him. if anyone can get reps i can compare hotkeys
Ryan aka bonus aka Reoka hasn't played BW for a while.
u sure ryan is reoka? O_o
i always thought that was someone else.. or am i thinking of "ryoka" ? there was definatly 2 of them ^^
anyway, 99% sure that RyanM is nV.bOnus
nope, im not iamfromscotland, only Scotland2k8. i have some ideas who it might be, but not enough to say "its him".
oh yeah, and about the sOrun ( nurOs ) .. i doubt tom would be playing again, so its probably just smurf, although nothing is for sure ;p
only other guys i can think of are sam(hasuguru) and philley!(adramelech)
hasuguru i cant see breaking c-, and i guess he's quit a long time ago, same with philley ( although he was pretty good terran, he lived in australia though, so i dono )
Yeah. Collapse is Ryoka. Ryan wouldn't be on icc. He doesn't play for skill or practice anymore. I can provide a dozen reps of him if someone wants to compare them though.
On January 29 2008 00:00 littlechava wrote: no, because there's only like 5 players above c+ in the history of uk sc
I heard all Americans are fat. Discuss...
On topic, the first one is Spire[mb], the 2nd and 3rd don't seem like him to me. The stats are too good. That and he has other icc smurfs so with those he'd be approaching 5 accounts.
im sure doki is in there too as Scotland2k7 ( im Scotland2k8 ^^ )
are u iamfromscotland aswell?
just curious ^ ^
edit: now i see this guy is terran. hmmm..
Hey is it really Doki, I haven't seem him around for ages. :D I remember he got me started playing on ladders (I think it was PGT back then? O_o) Haha, but we never played serious games, he made a hatch at my natural when I tried to fe, then I attacked with 20 probes, made scouts, arbiter rushed and somehow won. That game gets a place in my special collection.
well im not sure if its doki, but he's the only guy from scotland i know of that could do as well as that, and its zerg too..
like iwan says, he's more into poker and uni, but that doesnt mean he doesnt play. ive seen him on bnet and played some with him. just because people quit a while ago, doesnt mean they cant play again.
the majority of the rankings for UK are most likely to be foreigners staying here though
On February 04 2008 04:51 littlechava wrote: based on the mus smurfyeah might be gurram? no evidence though
Yeah, his PvT was supposed to be his best mu i believe.
There are some people saying it's Rashka (oldschool Swede), but I dunno... I don't know anything about Rashka other than that he used to spam things like "Heil Hitler" in #swe-1 when I started playing bw.
Can someone find out who toma217 is ? theres many many reps of him from tours, tt1 said on gg.net he had russian in his profile. jimminy_kricket or romad or anyone else wanna look him up? link: toma217
First thought was localhost, not him. Are there any other decent russian protoss players?
If its no foreienger then its going to be pretty tough to find out who it is, definatly no pro or anything, possibly just some random korean mass gaming.
my aka is Avi-Love, I'm no one special though, just played relatively bad players and have gotten lucky with that record -- will be sure to ruin it shortly^^
It's Gurram, trying to fool everyone that he's "Rashka".
Rashka was merely an average player and I got utterly destroyed by the player who used the "SmurfYeah" account. I was pretty convinced that it was Rashka at first, (same use of builds) but as I watched the replays it couldn't be none other than gurram. Perfect timing of expos, heavy macro and heavy rely on mass-zeals = Gurram.
Also, gurram is known for not using any hotkeys and has a very low apm, which is also visable in the replays.
It's Gurram, trying to fool everyone that he's "Rashka".
Rashka was merely an average player and I got utterly destroyed by the player who used the "SmurfYeah" account. I was pretty convinced that it was Rashka at first, (same use of builds) but as I watched the replays it couldn't be none other than gurram. Perfect timing of expos, heavy macro and heavy rely on mass-zeals = Gurram.
Also, gurram is known for not using any hotkeys and has a very low apm, which is also visable in the replays.
I see, i was never really into the Swedish scene (i'm still not) so i have no idea who this Rashka guy is but from what Rupbar is saying i'm glad it's not him.
I knew about Gurrams low apm but didn't know he played without hotkeys, impressive lol
btw. where did you get the reps of him? (smurfYeah)
On February 07 2008 09:43 meRz wrote: I must admit I was hesistating on uploading these, my performance in these games are the result of frustration and stubborness =[
Yes, props to him. Although I think mondragon has been sharing that acc with gosia, so I guess some credits must go to him aswell. Maybe incontrol can confirm whether this is true or not?
On February 09 2008 21:58 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote: If he keeps playing like 10+ hours a day then ya.
LOL Well he is progamer, he get paid for playing bw, and he only plays bw, he doesnt study, only work and his work is to play bw xd he is sponsored by a cybercafe called recorcholis SRL in Bolivia he only plays and plays, from 8 am to 11 pm thays why he has 2 ids in A,and maybe more smurfs before he became a progamer, he was a reggeton singer xd
On February 10 2008 09:03 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote: Playing 10 hours a day of a video game is an accomplishment? You should look up the tv show intervention.
Not exactly sure how you could say that on a progaming-based website where they play just as much, if not more. Didn't he already say he was sponsored and getting paid to play? He's just doing his job, doesn't mean someone has no life.
On February 10 2008 09:03 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote: Playing 10 hours a day of a video game is an accomplishment? You should look up the tv show intervention.
What gets me are those people who spend like 10 hours a day at their jobs. They should totally get lives. I mean who the hell wants to spend that much time being an accountant or some shit. They need interventions to break their dangerous fixation with work. Right?
On February 10 2008 09:03 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote: Playing 10 hours a day of a video game is an accomplishment? You should look up the tv show intervention.
What gets me are those people who spend like 10 hours a day at their jobs. They should totally get lives. I mean who the hell wants to spend that much time being an accountant or some shit. They need interventions to break their dangerous fixation with work. Right?
what the fuck who sway he plays 10 hours a day anyways, he doesn't play tat much, max 5 hours a day smacker was just being sarcastic
On February 09 2008 21:58 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote: If he keeps playing like 10+ hours a day then ya.
LOL Well he is progamer, he get paid for playing bw, and he only plays bw, he doesnt study, only work and his work is to play bw xd he is sponsored by a cybercafe called recorcholis SRL in Bolivia he only plays and plays, from 8 am to 11 pm thays why he has 2 ids in A,and maybe more smurfs before he became a progamer, he was a reggeton singer xd
hackstro <3
how much does he make ? technically if it was a job he'd work like ~8-9 hours per day, but thats abotu 15 hours a day lol he better be making some damn good money for that.
and wtf does a cybercafe gain from randomly sponsoring a BW player? =o
On February 10 2008 09:03 TeHTerraNAeriAL wrote: Playing 10 hours a day of a video game is an accomplishment? You should look up the tv show intervention.
What gets me are those people who spend like 10 hours a day at their jobs. They should totally get lives. I mean who the hell wants to spend that much time being an accountant or some shit. They need interventions to break their dangerous fixation with work. Right?
K well ur an idiot. Being sponsered by an internet cafe for a video game that is bound to die out pretty damn soon. Ya i think ill keep that as my career .
Yeah mukjy's been mentioned, he hasnt played since january though. I'd like to find out if it's mujuk, if anyone see's nsp_mujuk on bnet ask him if he is mukjy.
For the sake of completion on that TL.net member list: I just started playing this game again this week, my account = Ravenor so feel free to challenge me / say hi if anyone feels like it. http://www.iccup.com/profile.php?lookup=127033
On February 20 2008 07:59 jimminy_kriket wrote: noob bashing? (Comparatively?)
Stop saying things you know nothing about. Do you know how extremely hard it is to find players at A- A A+ ranks to play with you? I even have to spam for minutes to get an opponent at B ranks sometimes. I'm always like 'fuck it' after I reach B- and make a new account or play friends cause it's so time consuming and frustrating sitting at iccup trying to get somebody to play you.
And A+ vs A- isn't noob bashing at all in my opinion.
On February 20 2008 07:59 jimminy_kriket wrote: noob bashing? (Comparatively?)
Stop saying things you know nothing about. Do you know how extremely hard it is to find players at A- A A+ ranks to play with you? I even have to spam for minutes to get an opponent at B ranks sometimes. I'm always like 'fuck it' after I reach B- and make a new account or play friends cause it's so time consuming and frustrating sitting at iccup trying to get somebody to play you.
And A+ vs A- isn't noob bashing at all in my opinion.
Fully agreed. Theres times where it takes me 10 minutes or more to find a game at B level. A lot of people in A-B just idle for hours with no intentions of playing. I'm sure its FAR more difficult to find fellow A's or A+'s as well. Especially since there's massive time zone differences, as well as players who get like 9006 or barely get to A and just stop playing.
i guess playing high level foreigners is considered "noob bashing". So stupid, considering they fit under the same time zone, so it makes sense they play each other a lot
On February 20 2008 22:39 ShoutAbout wrote: Beating Temujin, playing offrace and you still call him noob? Okay then... XD
People still think MistrZZZ is a hacker and etc. Just because you were accused of hacking doesn't mean you suck. Testie hacked and he's beaten Bisu and other progamers before >.>;
The fact that MistrZZZ is on the front page is what surprised me the most though. I somewhat now respect him +_+!
On February 20 2008 22:39 ShoutAbout wrote: Beating Temujin, playing offrace and you still call him noob? Okay then... XD
People still think MistrZZZ is a hacker and etc. Just because you were accused of hacking doesn't mean you suck. Testie hacked and he's beaten Bisu and other progamers before >.>;
The fact that MistrZZZ is on the front page is what surprised me the most though. I somewhat now respect him +_+!
MistrZZZ is definately a good player, and only the idiots are denying that, but I can't seem to get myself to really respect him either. I mean if he wasn't so cocky and rude I don't think there would be any problem being a fan of his :p
But seriously, not many people understand how it feels to be called a hacker, whether or not you really were one, people will never let it go. I was caught maphacking when I was a FPM player a long ass time ago and I can't even get a game with the FPM scene people because they still believe that if I hacked once, I will always do it. I mean come on, I was only 13 -_-;
MistrZZZ wasent just accused, he hacked ! Dont compere him to Testie, when the other guy hacked years ago and MistrZZZ hacked like last month... Valentine GTFO hacker!
he got caught last July, and has since showed good results in POL WCG and many iccup tournaments, aswell as get a+ with (at the time, dunno about now) highest win %.
Holy fuck guys. I Put question marks because I was wondering why the hell that guy posted his matchlist. And "COMPARATIVLEY' some of those guys seem like noobs to mistrzzz. Fuck.
Now lets get back on topic and find out who qkdwldus is. I'll pm romad incase he doesnt see this.
Does anyone know who ParadoxDreams is? Highest ranked USA player. I asked him if he had an aka, and he said he wasn't a known player.. but I'm sure he must have a relatively known aka.
On February 21 2008 12:10 BalloonFight wrote: Does anyone know who ParadoxDreams is? Highest ranked USA player. I asked him if he had an aka, and he said he wasn't a known player.. but I'm sure he must have a relatively known aka.
On February 21 2008 12:10 BalloonFight wrote: Does anyone know who ParadoxDreams is? Highest ranked USA player. I asked him if he had an aka, and he said he wasn't a known player.. but I'm sure he must have a relatively known aka.
MistrZZZ wasent just accused, he hacked ! Dont compere him to Testie, when the other guy hacked years ago and MistrZZZ hacked like last month... Valentine GTFO hacker!
are u retarded or smth? There was never a real proof of that he has hacked. If you think that there was.. then tell me which one of them can't be explained by a logical thinking? I know him personally and Im pretty sure that he hasn't, and you are probably just a friend of gg.net admin or someone from tot, because they have made this whole tricky crap which manipulated the whole foreign community which are now thinking that he hacks and thats just a faked truth, not a real one "MistrZZZ hacked like last month" thats a perfect example why are you trying to fool ppl with such a nonsense talk, when there was no proof of his hacking never, and last time he was accused of hacking was like 6 months ago. I'd ban you for spreading the untruth on this forum if I were an admin, but I heard from him that admins here are also manipulated by tots and gg.net so they'd rather ban me not you =)
If im admin on ICCUP i make rule that smurf players with nick like 09898932488 iosjdijhsdsd or rainfromheaven and other get less pts for win an players with names like Excello.Ptak,T.Sqd)Kr,LoWeLy[F2F and other players who use real nick get more pts per evry game..becouse when you look evry player who play on iccup have REAL nick and clan and it is stupid that allmoste evry game played on iccup is vs smurf user..you win or you lose it is a same becouse you dont know who you win or vs who you lose...smurf user if he make good stats or win vs good player he just change name (in real nick) and it is ok but if he lose he just reset acc and make new one and try again...and then you ppl make a star from ppl who do shit! they dont play for game or fun they play for fast respect! this guy NONY about who you talk i think he make like 20 acc on this iccup is he better then other players who have 1 acc and play all season ? t_T mybe my english is bad but i hope you understend me!
On February 22 2008 20:56 Ptak wrote: If im admin on ICCUP i make rule that smurf players with nick like 09898932488 iosjdijhsdsd or rainfromheaven and other get less pts for win an players with names like Excello.Ptak,T.Sqd)Kr,LoWeLy[F2F and other players who use real nick get more pts per evry game..becouse when you look evry player who play on iccup have REAL nick and clan and it is stupid that allmoste evry game played on iccup is vs smurf user..you win or you lose it is a same becouse you dont know who you win or vs who you lose...smurf user if he make good stats or win vs good player he just change name (in real nick) and it is ok but if he lose he just reset acc and make new one and try again...and then you ppl make a star from ppl who do shit! they dont play for game or fun they play for fast respect! this guy NONY about who you talk i think he make like 20 acc on this iccup is he better then other players who have 1 acc and play all season ? t_T mybe my english is bad but i hope you understend me!
Well what do you play ICCup for anyway? Personally I play to practice. People that smurf and play to make good stats won't get any better doing that, so it won't be any good for them. If you care so much about random people opinion you should make a new dodge account too, if you don't then I don't really see the point in complaining here :p
Are you seriously whining over smurfs?! Without smurfs no progamer or known semi-progamer would ever play iccup -- so that's just ridiculous.
And honestly, I know it's heartbreaking that you can't rush to europe and spam /f m with "OMG I JUST BEAT XXX" because they play on a smurf -- but deal with it, really.
I checked against all the Z and T players on ace and none of them matched, but some players only had one or two replays I could find so I cant be 100% sure its not them. Hopefully romad will be able to figure it out.
Also if anyone who's played him, cloud + Octzerg im lookin at you guys, please upload your reps vs him.
On February 26 2008 03:54 Pads wrote: yeah so he doesn't stay up till obscene hours in the morning, why do you care?
edit: iccup down?
thats a bullshit excuse actually, i log on 30 seconds ago and there were 2 A/A+ koreans. I find it hard to believe he NEVER got the chance to play at least 1 good korean. Even if he allegedly cant play koreans, im not saying he dodges ,but he didnt prove his the true 1# in iccup until he does play them
you don't like him and you can't accept it. if some1 else will do top1 icc with better win ratio (nonkor) i would say that MiSTrZZZ is "one of the best" nonkor gamers, but for this moment he's just the best :>
On February 27 2008 06:45 mejsunio wrote: you don't like him and you can't accept it. if some1 else will do top1 icc with better win ratio (nonkor) i would say that MiSTrZZZ is "one of the best" nonkor gamers, but for this moment he's just the best :>
No, he is currently the top non kor at ICC but that doesn't make him the best non kor overall. Can you accept that?
On February 27 2008 06:45 mejsunio wrote: you don't like him and you can't accept it. if some1 else will do top1 icc with better win ratio (nonkor) i would say that MiSTrZZZ is "one of the best" nonkor gamers, but for this moment he's just the best :>
1. Not every single non-korean plays ICCUP. 2. In his current matchlist (the 2 pages showing after he transferred stats) he has played 2 koreans and they weren't even A. Yeah, timezones etc. but it never stopped Castro, white-ra, snowman from playing them. 3. Can you put the polishpride away for a sec and accept it?
Hahaha <3 MIStrZZZ. I'm pretty sure mejsunio isnt mistrzz, he spelt his name wrong and mistrzzz gets mad at people who dont get the capitalization perfect.
I like mistrzzz, but i wouldnt go as far to say he is the best non kor.. thats laughable. Mondragon is easily the current best non kor followed maybe by draco or testie (depending on their condition).
Mistrzzz is in a large group with drieven cloud advokate notforu and a trillion others fighting for top 10.
yeah i'm not mistrzzz and i love when you all get mad when some1 says "he's the best" rotfl ok, he's the best in my opinion, but if in yours he isn't plz tell me who's better :> will be nice to read it
On February 27 2008 08:59 mejsunio wrote: yeah i'm not mistrzzz and i love when you all get mad when some1 says "he's the best" rotfl ok, he's the best in my opinion, but if in yours he isn't plz tell me who's better :> will be nice to read it
Mondragon, notforu, Testie (i know he's inactive/quit), Xiaozi, IefNaij are all better imo.
On February 27 2008 09:04 mejsunio wrote: now comparing mistrzzz to dreiven or cloud is rotfl. dreiven made 0-5 in his group in masters of the craft. mistrzzz would 5-0 or 4-1 for sure.
3 games mistrzzz vs xiaozi (when mistrzzz wasn't in so good shape), enjoy it
I think MistrZZZ is one of the better non koreans, but i'm pretty sure he would lose a BO5 to idra. That would be quite a showmatch for us, and the pride of Poland.
edit: so gay, i wasted my 1000th post talking about mistrizzz and idra... yuck.
can we just drop the whole mistrzzz discussion now?
he's #1 at iccup, congrats to him, this thread didn't need to be totally derailed by all this bullshit, how about we finish this all up with pm's, kek?
On February 27 2008 11:15 Pads wrote: can we just drop the whole mistrzzz discussion now?
he's #1 at iccup, congrats to him, this thread didn't need to be totally derailed by all this bullshit, how about we finish this all up with pm's, kek?
On February 27 2008 11:15 Pads wrote: can we just drop the whole mistrzzz discussion now?
he's #1 at iccup, congrats to him, this thread didn't need to be totally derailed by all this bullshit, how about we finish this all up with pm's, kek?
back on topic now please.
why is it bad to discuss a hacker being #1 iccup?
because he was never really proven to hack and all the thinking community (these ppl who werent manipulated by ggnet hack bullshits) want him being excused
On February 27 2008 08:59 mejsunio wrote: yeah i'm not mistrzzz and i love when you all get mad when some1 says "he's the best" rotfl ok, he's the best in my opinion, but if in yours he isn't plz tell me who's better :> will be nice to read it
Mondragon, notforu, Testie (i know he's inactive/quit), Xiaozi, IefNaij are all better imo.
oh dear let me see..mondragon got bashed by him just before him being banned from ggnet (what a coincidence.. how come that mondragon is the most powerful person on community so he can manipulate admins so easily to ban anyone without a logical reason for it) notforu http://wgtour.com/news.php?idN=16345&datab=broodwar bang, bang. tstie? http://sc.gosugamers.net/gosubet/14287 bang, bang, it was 2-0 for mistrzz xiaozi? mm http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=1gwcmDH7-mU haha :D iefnaij? http://netwars.pl/download.php?numer=129801 http://netwars.pl/download.php?numer=129800 http://netwars.pl/download.php?numer=126441 no shit! he is no match to mistrzzzzs zerg edit: http://www.wgtour.com/draw.php?datab=broodwar&id=3684 and if I'll be honest - I dont give a fuck what do u think, its just a matter of time when most ppl will know that mistzzz was innocent. Its the same story as WTC towers - now, after 7 years most ppl know what is the truth. But right after attacks everybody was manipulated by mass medias with showing faked veritys about it. Look at USA government as ggnet and german admins from variety of bw sites. Look at mass media as ggnet and several other bw sites. Now tell me what are ppl thinking? Of course they believe what they see, no matter if its true or false - "mistzzz hacking" - says ggnet - so it must be truth - 90% ppl think that mistrzz does really hack so, only 10% think notably and sees that something is wrong here - nobody has shown real proofs of him hacking, but he was banned exactly the same way as so.o on who there are 100% proofs. Funny, isnt it?
I guess that I'll be banned and this post will be censored because A LOT of admins here and there (bw community) are under the influence of ppl who want mistrzz banned, like tots or myms (its not hard to guess why do they want to exclude him from clan leagues and 1v1 tourneys/ladders)
http://www.iccup.com/profile.php?lookup=258580 look at this guy mass abuse lolz, he mostly plays all suspicous players that are his team mates or some guys that got reseted accounts, haha i think bunch of nerds are boosting one nick :D
On February 28 2008 21:58 FalliNinLove wrote: http://www.iccup.com/profile.php?lookup=258580 look at this guy mass abuse lolz, he mostly plays all suspicous players that are his team mates or some guys that got reseted accounts, haha i think bunch of nerds are boosting one nick :D
Yep, and h.s)newhero is his other account which he also abused lol (I know because he asked me to join his NH team, so I asked to see some replays of him and he hosted some replays of himself playing on the name h.s)newhero). The reps weren't too good either
You can even see it in score, he doesn't try that hard to cover it up, it's like score 95k vs 10k ;p
On February 28 2008 21:58 FalliNinLove wrote: http://www.iccup.com/profile.php?lookup=258580 look at this guy mass abuse lolz, he mostly plays all suspicous players that are his team mates or some guys that got reseted accounts, haha i think bunch of nerds are boosting one nick :D
I always look for these, and usually get dissapointed when the inevitable happens (they abuse games/they aren't Light[Alive]).
I really want to see some top gosus go 84-4 legit again
This will mainly be of interest to UK players but given this topics secondary role as a forum for UK starcraft I figured it was worth saying. nV.bOnus is playing under the akas zYnC and iiN.ZynC Back in the day he was A rank PGT and his 2v2 is a ridiculously high standard. I played a few with him on his first day back after 18 months without gaming and he's still insane at 2v2. So huge news for UK people and imo he's so good he qualifies for the who is who anyway.
On February 28 2008 21:58 FalliNinLove wrote: http://www.iccup.com/profile.php?lookup=258580 look at this guy mass abuse lolz, he mostly plays all suspicous players that are his team mates or some guys that got reseted accounts, haha i think bunch of nerds are boosting one nick :D