• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:25
CEST 02:25
KST 09:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)8Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!40Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2?
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 XUN appreciation thread
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS [ASL22] Ro24 Group F Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
[Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4615 users

WCG 2007 Day 2 - Page 26

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 24 25 26 27 28 50 Next All
linyu)wufan18
Profile Joined October 2002
1198 Posts
October 05 2007 20:20 GMT
#501
-.-
sAviOr doesnt get 1st yet
http://sc.replays.net
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 05 2007 20:22 GMT
#502
On October 06 2007 05:20 linyu)wufan18 wrote:
-.-
sAviOr doesnt get 1st yet


Oh yeah, Mondragon will win ZvZ on PA, sure-_-
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 05 2007 20:22 GMT
#503
it is indeed quite a stretch to predict savior winning his group.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Silent_Marine
Profile Joined April 2005
Vietnam281 Posts
October 05 2007 20:22 GMT
#504
@Naturo : ThuocLao , not ThucLao ;; kind of cigarret :D
Thx for result :x
UbRi
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Italy603 Posts
October 05 2007 20:22 GMT
#505
gj cloud, I think it's also possible that PJ just lost the game even if he wanted to win
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
October 05 2007 20:23 GMT
#506
Rather than asking Stork they should ask Ra. He knows.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 05 2007 20:28 GMT
#507
ThuocLao , fixed! Thank you
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
October 05 2007 20:33 GMT
#508
if pj get 1st, he will face ipx
if he's 2nd, he will face 66
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
October 05 2007 20:33 GMT
#509
if pj is smart enough(i think he is) he will forget that phoenix is from his country and try to get to
top 8
but again he could be ultra fucking good friend with him and respect friendship and go for savior..
but i doubt he is that good with pheonix
Ultras di Spalato, Etre et durer
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
October 05 2007 20:33 GMT
#510
Can\'t believe people actually think Stork didn\'t throw a game. They have been doing this all years.

Foreigners should just drop their games too so they ace each other.
Moderator<:3-/-<
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
October 05 2007 20:33 GMT
#511
There are 2 reasons why I believe it's still a drop game, and why he said it wasn't even if it was.

#1) Obviously to avoid playing Hwasin. But many have suggested, why so early? Why not wait and see what happens first? Because there was a time when the progamers tried this in another event, and failed. I believe it was one of the Korea/China events, where Reach and YellOw (I think) were in danger of facing each other in the Ro8. One of them still had a game left, but due to some unfortunate results it didn't matter if that person dropped the game or not, they'd still advance to play each other.

So, by recieving a loss early on, Stork increases his chances to #2, and then if somehow he ends up #1 anyway, he can still drop another game. He probably chose White-ra to drop the game against, because White-ra is expected to come out of the group next to him. Thus if they both end up with same results, White-ra would be #1 and Stork #2, meaning stork wouldn't have to drop another game.

2) But why say he didn't drop? This is fairly obvious. It would be unsports-man like to say he dropped a game. It would probably disappoint many fans as it does every year. But there's a deeper reason probably. Right now the Korean community is pummeling Stork, calling him "Song Excuse" (송핑계). This is because when he lost to Bisu in the GomTV2 finals, he said in his interview that he lost because he forgot dragoon range. This created a lot of fuss in the community, Bisu fans complaining that Stork is just putting out excuses and should be a man and just admit his loss, while Stork fans were defending him.

Then came the Stork vs Savior game on.... I can't remember. I think it was the Proleague Allstar match. Stork was doing very well against savior when Savior came back with a massive hydra drop, where Stork realized he forgot both dragoon range (again), AND storm. This was revealed by stork and once again the Korean community was all over his ass, and calling him "Song Excuse" (his last name is Song).

So, he probably dropped a game, but did not want people his fans to continue saying "he just makes excuses when he loses" so he's telling everyone he lost straight up. This way, the Koreans who know Stork's true power will make their own deduction without Stork actually saying so, saving his face and his reputation. Of course it's a daring move since everyone who's lost to a foreigner at WCG has gotten ridiculed (Silent_Control was verbally assaulted mercilessly when he lost in 2005)... but he's probably banking on his MSL/OSL/PL performances for his fans to not doubt his true strength. Besides, as long as he wins the entire thing from now on no one will even mention his loss.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
BisuCN
Profile Joined October 2007
China2 Posts
October 05 2007 20:34 GMT
#512
WCG is so boring without Bisu
I hope Hwasin will be the final champion cos he looks so lovely
GG-Mazor
Profile Joined August 2003
Sweden330 Posts
October 05 2007 20:34 GMT
#513
On October 06 2007 05:20 Frits wrote:

Show nested quote +
no way, according to gosugamers: "GosuGamers asked Stork after the game if it was a throw-game or not, and the translator was very insistent about it not being the case."
so it wasnt a dropped game... I TEH SWEAR!


Haha, gosugamers never fails to amaze me.

Stork is in the top5 of the best progamers easily, there's NO FUCKING WAY he got beat easily. God I can't believe they seriously reported that, hahahahaa.


Obviously you judge without having any info prior to doing to so. We never reported that it wasn't a throw game, the quoted sentence is taken out of context and it is simply saying that he denied, and that the translator was very insistent.

http://sc.gosugamers.net/news/7159
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
October 05 2007 20:36 GMT
#514
On October 06 2007 05:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
Can\'t believe people actually think Stork didn\'t throw a game. They have been doing this all years.

Foreigners should just drop their games too so they ace each other.

that would be hilarious.

A korean knows he needs to drop a game so he doesn't face a fellow Korean, but the opponent gets sneaky and tries to drop the game too so that the Korea DOES face his pal.... and game would be like the noobiest game in the world until someone attacks themselves. rofl
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 05 2007 20:36 GMT
#515
ra and ex are friendly i think, they should try to set it up so stork gets first anyway
that would be quite funny
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
BisuCN
Profile Joined October 2007
China2 Posts
October 05 2007 20:38 GMT
#516
The fact is that korean will certainly to win the champion as their level is so high
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
October 05 2007 20:41 GMT
#517

Then came the Stork vs Savior game on.... I can't remember. I think it was the Proleague Allstar match. Stork was doing very well against savior when Savior came back with a massive hydra drop, where Stork realized he forgot both dragoon range (again), AND storm. This was revealed by stork and once again the Korean community was all over his ass, and calling him "Song Excuse" (his last name is Song).


man i didnt know this, didnt watch that game
#1 kespa forgeting range + storm in same game ...vs savior ??
ROOOOFL

stork and testie should write on their monitor "RANGE UPGRADE ASAP"
Ultras di Spalato, Etre et durer
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 05 2007 20:41 GMT
#518
Alright there's some good claims on both sides. I think the best idea would be if someone can get a comment from Ra to see what he thinks of the game.
ikb
Profile Joined August 2007
China1 Post
October 05 2007 20:43 GMT
#519
On October 06 2007 05:36 Live2Win wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2007 05:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
Can\'t believe people actually think Stork didn\'t throw a game. They have been doing this all years.

Foreigners should just drop their games too so they ace each other.

that would be hilarious.

A korean knows he needs to drop a game so he doesn't face a fellow Korean, but the opponent gets sneaky and tries to drop the game too so that the Korea DOES face his pal.... and game would be like the noobiest game in the world until someone attacks themselves. rofl

faint
so complicated game
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
October 05 2007 20:43 GMT
#520
grubby and demuslim kinda look alike. grubby is older though.
Prev 1 24 25 26 27 28 50 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Main Stage Day 4
CranKy Ducklings31
Discussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft211
SpeCial 130
JuggernautJason47
ProTech18
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1926
GuemChi 1720
Shuttle 689
Artosis 612
NaDa 14
Dota 2
syndereN622
NeuroSwarm171
League of Legends
Doublelift3898
Counter-Strike
summit1g3910
pashabiceps556
minikerr55
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King72
Other Games
JimRising 481
C9.Mang0250
PiGStarcraft233
XaKoH 80
Maynarde78
ViBE54
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21909
League of Legends
• Stunt122
Other Games
• Scarra870
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
9h 36m
OSC
22h 6m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 10h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
[ Show More ]
GSL
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-02
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.