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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
September 14 2022 13:04 GMT
#61
Bummer :/
No doubt Soulkey deserves it, but this is not the result I was hoping for. But it's ok, I still got one of my favorites in the tournament.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13296 Posts
September 14 2022 13:35 GMT
#62
On September 14 2022 21:08 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2022 20:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Death, taxes and Bisu finding a way to bottle it.

You seem to keep reading the game wrong. At what point during that last game was he ahead to be able to bottle it?
Yeah he had 3 bases and 4 gases but if the supply is equal Protoss is never ahead.

I might be a little Bisu biased but this series really highlights how ZvP is a Zerg favored match up. Hydra bust and 9 Pool speed all day long.

It’s in reference to the series overall and Bisu’s history going way back. Chill out mate. Stop always trying to pick fights with ppl in these threads.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3114 Posts
September 14 2022 13:41 GMT
#63
On September 14 2022 22:35 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2022 21:08 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 20:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Death, taxes and Bisu finding a way to bottle it.

You seem to keep reading the game wrong. At what point during that last game was he ahead to be able to bottle it?
Yeah he had 3 bases and 4 gases but if the supply is equal Protoss is never ahead.

I might be a little Bisu biased but this series really highlights how ZvP is a Zerg favored match up. Hydra bust and 9 Pool speed all day long.

It’s in reference to the series overall and Bisu’s history going way back. Chill out mate. Stop always trying to pick fights with ppl in these threads.

Then it's a bad reference isn't it? He was at no point leading the series.
Also I'm not sure how correcting something wrong can be considered picking fight?
JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria409 Posts
September 14 2022 13:42 GMT
#64
Ah, good job, SK, I wish him luck vs Royal who's rather beastly now. And I feel it's somehow always fitting when a scammer gets eliminated. I know he didn't lose because of his dirty scamming nature but because he player worse this Bo5 yet I'm still content with the result. I wouldn't suffer if Bisu never gets into ASL and slips into irrelevance.
The subject-matter of the art of living is each person's own life.
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-14 14:37:59
September 14 2022 14:37 GMT
#65
On September 14 2022 22:41 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2022 22:35 RowdierBob wrote:
On September 14 2022 21:08 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 20:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Death, taxes and Bisu finding a way to bottle it.

You seem to keep reading the game wrong. At what point during that last game was he ahead to be able to bottle it?
Yeah he had 3 bases and 4 gases but if the supply is equal Protoss is never ahead.

I might be a little Bisu biased but this series really highlights how ZvP is a Zerg favored match up. Hydra bust and 9 Pool speed all day long.

It’s in reference to the series overall and Bisu’s history going way back. Chill out mate. Stop always trying to pick fights with ppl in these threads.

Then it's a bad reference isn't it? He was at no point leading the series.
Also I'm not sure how correcting something wrong can be considered picking fight?

You aren't correcting anyone. The fact that you think the comment author needs 'correcting' is indicative of the generally condescending nature of your input here.

If you don't get the reference that doesn't mean it's necessarily incorrect. Your default tone is cynical, abrasive, and confrontational - and it simply isn't warranted here, in my opinion.
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
September 14 2022 14:50 GMT
#66
I have to agree with J. Corsair. TMNT's post alone wouldn't trigger respones like these, but TMNT have been acting as Corsair describes multiple times in the last couple of weeks and it is starting to be irritating.
Sorry for the offtopic.

Still rooting for SK to beat Royal!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
September 14 2022 15:02 GMT
#67
Final score: Bisu 2-1, Bisu still doesn't advance x_x.

At least Soulkey showed an excellent game 2 and 5. Even though game 2 was a loss, those two games showed why he was deserving of the round of 4.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 14 2022 18:57 GMT
#68
Dark day for Bisu. SK was solid but wasn't impressive, especially on late game. He snatched 2 easy victories with ling rushes. And Bisu like how hard is to cover 1 cannon?
sunbeams are never made like me...
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
September 14 2022 20:11 GMT
#69
You'd think I'd be used to being disappointed by Bisu now, but each tournament I still hope he can pull it off and get disappointed all over again.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
bochs
Profile Joined February 2022
116 Posts
September 14 2022 23:21 GMT
#70
On September 15 2022 03:57 outscar wrote:
Dark day for Bisu. SK was solid but wasn't impressive, especially on late game. He snatched 2 easy victories with ling rushes. And Bisu like how hard is to cover 1 cannon?


Well that's because Bisu was too stingy to spend resources on defense, he could have built cannons and easily defended ling rushes, but then it would have delayed his own timings. In the end it's his own choice. To be fair, SK had to punish Bisu's aggressive opening, otherwise Bisu would have gotten away with an advantage early on.
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
September 15 2022 00:55 GMT
#71
On September 15 2022 05:11 moktira wrote:
You'd think I'd be used to being disappointed by Bisu now, but each tournament I still hope he can pull it off and get disappointed all over again.

Basically like Mini.
orth0dox
Profile Joined August 2013
28 Posts
September 15 2022 01:34 GMT
#72
On September 14 2022 22:42 JoinTheRain wrote:
Ah, good job, SK, I wish him luck vs Royal who's rather beastly now. And I feel it's somehow always fitting when a scammer gets eliminated. I know he didn't lose because of his dirty scamming nature but because he player worse this Bo5 yet I'm still content with the result. I wouldn't suffer if Bisu never gets into ASL and slips into irrelevance.

What is this about? It's something new to me, where do i look?
Bless the machine god, for he has given us tanks in plenty
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey745 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-15 03:54:36
September 15 2022 03:54 GMT
#73
I like both players. Just watched the matches. What an easy victory for SK. He even did not expecting like this one. I did not witnessed poor micro from Bisu to ling rushes. Congrats SK.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3114 Posts
September 15 2022 05:36 GMT
#74
On September 14 2022 23:37 J. Corsair wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2022 22:41 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 22:35 RowdierBob wrote:
On September 14 2022 21:08 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 20:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Death, taxes and Bisu finding a way to bottle it.

You seem to keep reading the game wrong. At what point during that last game was he ahead to be able to bottle it?
Yeah he had 3 bases and 4 gases but if the supply is equal Protoss is never ahead.

I might be a little Bisu biased but this series really highlights how ZvP is a Zerg favored match up. Hydra bust and 9 Pool speed all day long.

It’s in reference to the series overall and Bisu’s history going way back. Chill out mate. Stop always trying to pick fights with ppl in these threads.

Then it's a bad reference isn't it? He was at no point leading the series.
Also I'm not sure how correcting something wrong can be considered picking fight?

You aren't correcting anyone. The fact that you think the comment author needs 'correcting' is indicative of the generally condescending nature of your input here.

If you don't get the reference that doesn't mean it's necessarily incorrect. Your default tone is cynical, abrasive, and confrontational - and it simply isn't warranted here, in my opinion.

Look. What he said is factually incorrect. Bisu didn't have a lead at any point in the series therefore could not "bottle it". That much is beyond debatable, whether I "get" his "reference" or not.

You don't have to like my tone but saying he read the game wrong is no more cynical than saying something negative about a player. Neither is a personal attack or offensive. Why is the latter commonly accepted but the former not?
Spider-Mine
Profile Joined June 2008
United States86 Posts
September 15 2022 06:57 GMT
#75
On September 15 2022 14:36 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2022 23:37 J. Corsair wrote:
On September 14 2022 22:41 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 22:35 RowdierBob wrote:
On September 14 2022 21:08 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 20:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Death, taxes and Bisu finding a way to bottle it.

You seem to keep reading the game wrong. At what point during that last game was he ahead to be able to bottle it?
Yeah he had 3 bases and 4 gases but if the supply is equal Protoss is never ahead.

I might be a little Bisu biased but this series really highlights how ZvP is a Zerg favored match up. Hydra bust and 9 Pool speed all day long.

It’s in reference to the series overall and Bisu’s history going way back. Chill out mate. Stop always trying to pick fights with ppl in these threads.

Then it's a bad reference isn't it? He was at no point leading the series.
Also I'm not sure how correcting something wrong can be considered picking fight?

You aren't correcting anyone. The fact that you think the comment author needs 'correcting' is indicative of the generally condescending nature of your input here.

If you don't get the reference that doesn't mean it's necessarily incorrect. Your default tone is cynical, abrasive, and confrontational - and it simply isn't warranted here, in my opinion.

Look. What he said is factually incorrect. Bisu didn't have a lead at any point in the series therefore could not "bottle it". That much is beyond debatable, whether I "get" his "reference" or not.

You don't have to like my tone but saying he read the game wrong is no more cynical than saying something negative about a player. Neither is a personal attack or offensive. Why is the latter commonly accepted but the former not?


Man get out of your feelings over the results. You totally missed what J Corsair was saying. You don’t have to defend Bisu, the game is over, well played to SoulKey. Quit trying to change peoples minds about how they feel over the game. If he thinks Bisu “ bottled” it, so what if he’s right or wrong. It’s how he feels. Relax, Bisu will be back again for the next ASL. To probably “ bottle” it next series.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3114 Posts
September 15 2022 07:40 GMT
#76
On September 15 2022 15:57 Spider-Mine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2022 14:36 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 23:37 J. Corsair wrote:
On September 14 2022 22:41 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 22:35 RowdierBob wrote:
On September 14 2022 21:08 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 20:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Death, taxes and Bisu finding a way to bottle it.

You seem to keep reading the game wrong. At what point during that last game was he ahead to be able to bottle it?
Yeah he had 3 bases and 4 gases but if the supply is equal Protoss is never ahead.

I might be a little Bisu biased but this series really highlights how ZvP is a Zerg favored match up. Hydra bust and 9 Pool speed all day long.

It’s in reference to the series overall and Bisu’s history going way back. Chill out mate. Stop always trying to pick fights with ppl in these threads.

Then it's a bad reference isn't it? He was at no point leading the series.
Also I'm not sure how correcting something wrong can be considered picking fight?

You aren't correcting anyone. The fact that you think the comment author needs 'correcting' is indicative of the generally condescending nature of your input here.

If you don't get the reference that doesn't mean it's necessarily incorrect. Your default tone is cynical, abrasive, and confrontational - and it simply isn't warranted here, in my opinion.

Look. What he said is factually incorrect. Bisu didn't have a lead at any point in the series therefore could not "bottle it". That much is beyond debatable, whether I "get" his "reference" or not.

You don't have to like my tone but saying he read the game wrong is no more cynical than saying something negative about a player. Neither is a personal attack or offensive. Why is the latter commonly accepted but the former not?


Man get out of your feelings over the results. You totally missed what J Corsair was saying. You don’t have to defend Bisu, the game is over, well played to SoulKey. Quit trying to change peoples minds about how they feel over the game. If he thinks Bisu “ bottled” it, so what if he’s right or wrong. It’s how he feels. Relax, Bisu will be back again for the next ASL. To probably “ bottle” it next series.

It's a public forum and if someone doesn't share your opinion there could be a debate. My words are respectful enough. There wouldn't be second post if he wasn't being so sensitive about it and accusing me of picking fight.

I once made a comment about a Bonyth's game and there were a bunch of people bashing me with much harsher words than what I used in this thread. Where was "it's how he feels" on that occasion? By your logic this forum would just be a bunch of comments unrelated to each other then.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
September 15 2022 08:03 GMT
#77
On September 15 2022 09:55 Optimate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2022 05:11 moktira wrote:
You'd think I'd be used to being disappointed by Bisu now, but each tournament I still hope he can pull it off and get disappointed all over again.

Basically like Mini.

Similar but at least Mini won an ASL recently!
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
September 15 2022 08:56 GMT
#78
On September 15 2022 17:03 moktira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2022 09:55 Optimate wrote:
On September 15 2022 05:11 moktira wrote:
You'd think I'd be used to being disappointed by Bisu now, but each tournament I still hope he can pull it off and get disappointed all over again.

Basically like Mini.

Similar but at least Mini won an ASL recently!

Mini vacillates between greatness and floundering, while Bisu reaches the cusp of greatness before floundering.
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
September 15 2022 09:39 GMT
#79
On September 15 2022 17:03 moktira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2022 09:55 Optimate wrote:
On September 15 2022 05:11 moktira wrote:
You'd think I'd be used to being disappointed by Bisu now, but each tournament I still hope he can pull it off and get disappointed all over again.

Basically like Mini.

Similar but at least Mini won an ASL recently!

Yeah Mini made 2 finals in a row
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
September 15 2022 09:45 GMT
#80
On September 15 2022 14:36 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2022 23:37 J. Corsair wrote:
On September 14 2022 22:41 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 22:35 RowdierBob wrote:
On September 14 2022 21:08 TMNT wrote:
On September 14 2022 20:59 RowdierBob wrote:
Death, taxes and Bisu finding a way to bottle it.

You seem to keep reading the game wrong. At what point during that last game was he ahead to be able to bottle it?
Yeah he had 3 bases and 4 gases but if the supply is equal Protoss is never ahead.

I might be a little Bisu biased but this series really highlights how ZvP is a Zerg favored match up. Hydra bust and 9 Pool speed all day long.

It’s in reference to the series overall and Bisu’s history going way back. Chill out mate. Stop always trying to pick fights with ppl in these threads.

Then it's a bad reference isn't it? He was at no point leading the series.
Also I'm not sure how correcting something wrong can be considered picking fight?

You aren't correcting anyone. The fact that you think the comment author needs 'correcting' is indicative of the generally condescending nature of your input here.

If you don't get the reference that doesn't mean it's necessarily incorrect. Your default tone is cynical, abrasive, and confrontational - and it simply isn't warranted here, in my opinion.

Look. What he said is factually incorrect. Bisu didn't have a lead at any point in the series therefore could not "bottle it". That much is beyond debatable, whether I "get" his "reference" or not.

You don't have to like my tone but saying he read the game wrong is no more cynical than saying something negative about a player. Neither is a personal attack or offensive. Why is the latter commonly accepted but the former not?


I don't think you're right man. I agree with you that he was never ahead in this series and even in that last game he was always on the back foot (altho he could've done better with the 3 gas templar advantage), but I think bottle it could also refer to just him being a better player and bottling it against a player who is by many probably considered the worse player and someone he should be able to beat in this setting.
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