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ERSJ
Profile Joined October 2018
Sweden57 Posts
April 09 2022 11:19 GMT
#201
GGs and thanks for great casting Scan and Nyoken
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3151 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-09 11:19:43
April 09 2022 11:19 GMT
#202
Wasn't expecting this at all. Congrats to Light GG.
Artosis loves Starcraft
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-09 11:22:09
April 09 2022 11:21 GMT
#203
On April 09 2022 19:50 Ikirouta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2022 19:37 TMNT wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:28 oxKnu wrote:
I completely disagree with what Scan is saying. Revolver is a perfectly fine map for Terran.

Only some spawn configurations + scout timings can be troublesome but that's always a possibility on other 4p maps as well.

Scan has been a disgrace this season with his Terran bias. It's like, he's literally appreciating Terran all game, blaming the map which are supposed to be a balanced and saying nothing about the maps which areclearly Terran favored. Feels bad for Nyoken trying to balance the act.

I no longer watch Starcast TV stream anymore. Even Artosis the whiner has been professional in his casting and doesn't let his bias slip in.


idk why you complain, just don't watch it if you don't like it, why do you also have to cry about it lmao

I literally said I no longer watch StarcastTV anymore lmao.

As for crying, I just stated my opinion about his cast when someone brought up a somewhat relevant info. That's literally what everyone's doing on the internet. Crying would be me making a new thread about it.

Likewise I can say if you don't like my post dont read or dont reply. Why cry? See how ridiculous your response now?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51104 Posts
April 09 2022 11:22 GMT
#204
I never do this but since BSL semis are today

check drone's preview https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/590155-bsl14-ro4-preview
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
April 09 2022 11:39 GMT
#205
On April 09 2022 20:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
some people want good games, not me

I like seeing Light as a champ waaaaay more.

Preach! So happy for Light.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-09 11:53:09
April 09 2022 11:51 GMT
#206
On April 09 2022 20:21 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2022 19:50 Ikirouta wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:37 TMNT wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:28 oxKnu wrote:
I completely disagree with what Scan is saying. Revolver is a perfectly fine map for Terran.

Only some spawn configurations + scout timings can be troublesome but that's always a possibility on other 4p maps as well.

Scan has been a disgrace this season with his Terran bias. It's like, he's literally appreciating Terran all game, blaming the map which are supposed to be a balanced and saying nothing about the maps which areclearly Terran favored. Feels bad for Nyoken trying to balance the act.

I no longer watch Starcast TV stream anymore. Even Artosis the whiner has been professional in his casting and doesn't let his bias slip in.


idk why you complain, just don't watch it if you don't like it, why do you also have to cry about it lmao

I literally said I no longer watch StarcastTV anymore lmao.

As for crying, I just stated my opinion about his cast when someone brought up a somewhat relevant info. That's literally what everyone's doing on the internet. Crying would be me making a new thread about it.

Likewise I can say if you don't like my post dont read or dont reply. Why cry? See how ridiculous your response now?

Picking a single moment of my sentence doesn't mean I'm being biased for terran. There's literally no terran players who want to play on metaverse because there are 3 different level of floor(main is 3rd, nat is 2nd, 3rd base is 1st floor). Multiple of terrains with high and low grounds do not support terran for any of timing attack to execute any location 12 nexus with carrier build easily. It's just simply the map did not support for JyJ + Bisu with 0 mistake synergize on that map. Terran simply has to aim for protoss's mistakes to take some chance. So That's why I said JyJ did nothing wrong.

I've said this numerous times I don't root for anyone when I do the commentary. I only talk about FACTs and what's out there. I compliment what the player did well/bad in the game. You close your ears all the time and hear ONLY what you want. Please don't talk like you know everything.

+ Nyoken and I don't get paid to do the ASL cast either. If you don't like our passion + commentary work, that's how you're killing the sc community.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-09 11:56:36
April 09 2022 11:56 GMT
#207
Preview is spot on. Bisu > Rain.

Congrats, Light! Just caught parts of the finals (had a bad feeling somehow and went out). All things considered, best player won. Would've been rather poor taste if someone coming back from a long sabbatical won ASL straight away. Hope Rain sticks around and comes back even stronger! He's still the MVP this season for me with all the epic games!
gg no re thx
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-09 12:12:19
April 09 2022 12:07 GMT
#208
On April 09 2022 20:51 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2022 20:21 TMNT wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:50 Ikirouta wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:37 TMNT wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:28 oxKnu wrote:
I completely disagree with what Scan is saying. Revolver is a perfectly fine map for Terran.

Only some spawn configurations + scout timings can be troublesome but that's always a possibility on other 4p maps as well.

Scan has been a disgrace this season with his Terran bias. It's like, he's literally appreciating Terran all game, blaming the map which are supposed to be a balanced and saying nothing about the maps which areclearly Terran favored. Feels bad for Nyoken trying to balance the act.

I no longer watch Starcast TV stream anymore. Even Artosis the whiner has been professional in his casting and doesn't let his bias slip in.


idk why you complain, just don't watch it if you don't like it, why do you also have to cry about it lmao

I literally said I no longer watch StarcastTV anymore lmao.

As for crying, I just stated my opinion about his cast when someone brought up a somewhat relevant info. That's literally what everyone's doing on the internet. Crying would be me making a new thread about it.

Likewise I can say if you don't like my post dont read or dont reply. Why cry? See how ridiculous your response now?

Picking a single moment of my sentence doesn't mean I'm being biased for terran. There's literally no terran players who want to play on metaverse because there are 3 different level of floor(main is 3rd, nat is 2nd, 3rd base is 1st floor). Multiple of terrains with high and low grounds do not support terran for any of timing attack to execute any location 12 nexus with carrier build easily. It's just simply the map did not support for JyJ + Bisu with 0 mistake synergize on that map. Terran simply has to aim for protoss's mistakes to take some chance. So That's why I said JyJ did nothing wrong.

I've said this numerous times I don't root for anyone when I do the commentary. I only talk about FACTs and what's out there. I compliment what the player did well/bad in the game. You close your ears all the time and hear ONLY what you want. Please don't talk like you know everything.

+ Nyoken and I don't get paid to do the ASL cast either. If you don't like our passion + commentary work, that's how you're killing the sc community.

Don't worry about that nonsense man. You're doing a great job. You're literally much better at the game than anyone here. Don't let it bother you. Almost all of the people here appreciate the knowledge you bring to the cast. There will always be haters. Just do what you do
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway772 Posts
April 09 2022 12:08 GMT
#209
On April 09 2022 20:51 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2022 20:21 TMNT wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:50 Ikirouta wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:37 TMNT wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:28 oxKnu wrote:
I completely disagree with what Scan is saying. Revolver is a perfectly fine map for Terran.

Only some spawn configurations + scout timings can be troublesome but that's always a possibility on other 4p maps as well.

Scan has been a disgrace this season with his Terran bias. It's like, he's literally appreciating Terran all game, blaming the map which are supposed to be a balanced and saying nothing about the maps which areclearly Terran favored. Feels bad for Nyoken trying to balance the act.

I no longer watch Starcast TV stream anymore. Even Artosis the whiner has been professional in his casting and doesn't let his bias slip in.


idk why you complain, just don't watch it if you don't like it, why do you also have to cry about it lmao

I literally said I no longer watch StarcastTV anymore lmao.

As for crying, I just stated my opinion about his cast when someone brought up a somewhat relevant info. That's literally what everyone's doing on the internet. Crying would be me making a new thread about it.

Likewise I can say if you don't like my post dont read or dont reply. Why cry? See how ridiculous your response now?

Picking a single moment of my sentence doesn't mean I'm being biased for terran. There's literally no terran players who want to play on metaverse because there are 3 different level of floor(main is 3rd, nat is 2nd, 3rd base is 1st floor). Multiple of terrains with high and low grounds do not support terran for any of timing attack to execute any location 12 nexus with carrier build easily. It's just simply the map did not support for JyJ + Bisu with 0 mistake synergize on that map. Terran simply has to aim for protoss's mistakes to take some chance. So That's why I said JyJ did nothing wrong.

I've said this numerous times I don't root for anyone when I do the commentary. I only talk about FACTs and what's out there. I compliment what the player did well/bad in the game. You close your ears all the time and hear ONLY what you want. Please don't talk like you know everything.

+ Nyoken and I don't get paid to do the ASL cast either. If you don't like our passion + commentary work, that's how you're killing the sc community.

Well it's only 1 person saying these things, please focus on the rest of us that are very greatfull for the amount of work you put in :D
Keep up the good work and dont let the haters get to you
Much love <3
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
April 09 2022 12:10 GMT
#210
The casting was great, all season long.

Even when some of the games were just pure duds. Like some today.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-09 12:21:03
April 09 2022 12:11 GMT
#211
On April 09 2022 20:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I never do this but since BSL semis are today

check drone's preview https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/590155-bsl14-ro4-preview

I never do this either. But drone did an amazing job breaking these match ups down. Wish I would've read them before I voted on Liquibet Oh wait I made the same choices anyways ...lucky me Seriously pure luck. Just like most of my BSL choices, being only a little bit familiar with the players and their games. I did know Dewalt and Mihu though I'll admit, but nothing more than they are fantastic foreign players and Mihu won last season.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
April 09 2022 12:12 GMT
#212
Couldn't watch the finals live unfortunately
Didn't expect such a clean sweep, I thought Light would win but not like that. Big win for him, he worked hard for it and he deserved it
Rain got a taste of what it feels like running into a superior opponent. I hope this doesn't discourage him, but rather motivates him to try again next season.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51104 Posts
April 09 2022 12:21 GMT
#213
On April 09 2022 21:11 Sirris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2022 20:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I never do this but since BSL semis are today

check drone's preview https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/590155-bsl14-ro4-preview

I never do this either. But drone did an amazing job breaking these match ups down. Wish I would've read them before I voted on Liquibet Oh wait I made the same choices anyways ...lucky me Seriously pure luck. Just like most of my BSL choices, being only a little bit familiar with the players and their games. I did know Dewalt and Mihu though I'll admit, but nothing more than they are fantastic foreign players and Mihu won last season.


we need more responses in that thread.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-09 12:33:47
April 09 2022 12:28 GMT
#214
On April 09 2022 21:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2022 21:11 Sirris wrote:
On April 09 2022 20:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I never do this but since BSL semis are today

check drone's preview https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/590155-bsl14-ro4-preview

I never do this either. But drone did an amazing job breaking these match ups down. Wish I would've read them before I voted on Liquibet Oh wait I made the same choices anyways ...lucky me Seriously pure luck. Just like most of my BSL choices, being only a little bit familiar with the players and their games. I did know Dewalt and Mihu though I'll admit, but nothing more than they are fantastic foreign players and Mihu won last season.


we need more responses in that thread.

Good point. Also Drone once again did do a REALLY good job at the break down even if you aren't familiar with the top foreign players. I encourage people to take a look.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-09 12:32:21
April 09 2022 12:32 GMT
#215
On April 09 2022 20:19 Ikirouta wrote:
Thanks to Scan + Nyoken for another great season of casting!

I agree I really hope they keep doing it.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3247 Posts
April 09 2022 12:43 GMT
#216
On April 09 2022 20:51 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2022 20:21 TMNT wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:50 Ikirouta wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:37 TMNT wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:28 oxKnu wrote:
I completely disagree with what Scan is saying. Revolver is a perfectly fine map for Terran.

Only some spawn configurations + scout timings can be troublesome but that's always a possibility on other 4p maps as well.

Scan has been a disgrace this season with his Terran bias. It's like, he's literally appreciating Terran all game, blaming the map which are supposed to be a balanced and saying nothing about the maps which areclearly Terran favored. Feels bad for Nyoken trying to balance the act.

I no longer watch Starcast TV stream anymore. Even Artosis the whiner has been professional in his casting and doesn't let his bias slip in.


idk why you complain, just don't watch it if you don't like it, why do you also have to cry about it lmao

I literally said I no longer watch StarcastTV anymore lmao.

As for crying, I just stated my opinion about his cast when someone brought up a somewhat relevant info. That's literally what everyone's doing on the internet. Crying would be me making a new thread about it.

Likewise I can say if you don't like my post dont read or dont reply. Why cry? See how ridiculous your response now?

Picking a single moment of my sentence doesn't mean I'm being biased for terran. There's literally no terran players who want to play on metaverse because there are 3 different level of floor(main is 3rd, nat is 2nd, 3rd base is 1st floor). Multiple of terrains with high and low grounds do not support terran for any of timing attack to execute any location 12 nexus with carrier build easily. It's just simply the map did not support for JyJ + Bisu with 0 mistake synergize on that map. Terran simply has to aim for protoss's mistakes to take some chance. So That's why I said JyJ did nothing wrong.

I've said this numerous times I don't root for anyone when I do the commentary. I only talk about FACTs and what's out there. I compliment what the player did well/bad in the game. You close your ears all the time and hear ONLY what you want. Please don't talk like you know everything.

+ Nyoken and I don't get paid to do the ASL cast either. If you don't like our passion + commentary work, that's how you're killing the sc community.

Dude you're literraly showing your bias in this post. Did JYJ's hidden Starport not get spotted immediately? Did his army not sync up during that push? Nothing wrong? Even Artosis and Nyoken acknowledged it but you kept whining about the map.

And did you just argue that in your book, the map has to support a Terran push "easily" for it to be considered "not wrong" lol? As if a map favoring Terran is fine and a map not favoring Terran (aka balanced) is wrong lol. The high and low grounds work for and against both races depending on the situation. It's not like only Terran has a problem with it.
Also, where were your "the map is wrong" comment for Protoss on Monopoly? Where were you when Protoss "did nothing wrong" and died to a 3H Hydra?

If there wasn't a problem with your Terran bias in that cast, there wouldn't be a series of comments from viewers from reddit and youtube, so much that Starcast TV has to pin your explanation on youtube. It's not only me. There are others who recognize it too. And we didn't have a problem with Nyoken either.

Your cast is generally great. I appreciate what you guys are doing for the community. But that doesn't make you immune to criticism. I suggest you listen to yourself first and improve your cast, instead of retaliating by saying everyone has to like your work no matter what otherwise they're killing the community, which is an absurd and condescending statement.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
April 09 2022 12:45 GMT
#217
what a damn shame

that was absolutely terrible

J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
April 09 2022 12:57 GMT
#218
Hell yeah, so happy for Light. The difference in preparation showed here, well-deserved victory. Rain's weakest MU has always been Terran, I thought Light was favored but not clean sweep favored
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
April 09 2022 13:00 GMT
#219
On April 09 2022 20:51 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2022 20:21 TMNT wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:50 Ikirouta wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:37 TMNT wrote:
On April 09 2022 19:28 oxKnu wrote:
I completely disagree with what Scan is saying. Revolver is a perfectly fine map for Terran.

Only some spawn configurations + scout timings can be troublesome but that's always a possibility on other 4p maps as well.

Scan has been a disgrace this season with his Terran bias. It's like, he's literally appreciating Terran all game, blaming the map which are supposed to be a balanced and saying nothing about the maps which areclearly Terran favored. Feels bad for Nyoken trying to balance the act.

I no longer watch Starcast TV stream anymore. Even Artosis the whiner has been professional in his casting and doesn't let his bias slip in.


idk why you complain, just don't watch it if you don't like it, why do you also have to cry about it lmao

I literally said I no longer watch StarcastTV anymore lmao.

As for crying, I just stated my opinion about his cast when someone brought up a somewhat relevant info. That's literally what everyone's doing on the internet. Crying would be me making a new thread about it.

Likewise I can say if you don't like my post dont read or dont reply. Why cry? See how ridiculous your response now?

Picking a single moment of my sentence doesn't mean I'm being biased for terran. There's literally no terran players who want to play on metaverse because there are 3 different level of floor(main is 3rd, nat is 2nd, 3rd base is 1st floor). Multiple of terrains with high and low grounds do not support terran for any of timing attack to execute any location 12 nexus with carrier build easily. It's just simply the map did not support for JyJ + Bisu with 0 mistake synergize on that map. Terran simply has to aim for protoss's mistakes to take some chance. So That's why I said JyJ did nothing wrong.

I've said this numerous times I don't root for anyone when I do the commentary. I only talk about FACTs and what's out there. I compliment what the player did well/bad in the game. You close your ears all the time and hear ONLY what you want. Please don't talk like you know everything.

+ Nyoken and I don't get paid to do the ASL cast either. If you don't like our passion + commentary work, that's how you're killing the sc community.


You should not care about comments like that. To TMwhatevernameis, It was clearly reflected within player predictions, that most of pros think these maps are terrible for tvp just as Scan argued. Or maybe you know better than Scan and Soulkey perhaps who was very vocal on his stream about maps being rigged towards protoss in pvt.
it's not just a music it's something else
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
April 09 2022 13:05 GMT
#220
+ Show Spoiler +
And by the way, where are all those, who blabbered about that Rain should have won KSL 4. It was certain, that Light wanted to face Rain olin finals and 4-0 illustrates why.
it's not just a music it's something else
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