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[ASL 12] Ro16 Group Selection

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oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany648 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-15 11:48:38
September 15 2021 10:13 GMT
#1
The Ro16 group selection is live right now, would have loved an english stream, but apparently its not available :/

Group A:

+ Show Spoiler +
(P)Mini
(Z)815
(Z)Soma
(T)JyJ


Group B:

+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)by.hero
(P)nOOB
(P)free
(T)Sorry


Group C:

+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)ZerO
(P)Stork
(T)Light
(P)Snow


Group D:

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)Rush
(T)BarrackS
(Z)beast
(Z)Soulkey
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-15 10:18:22
September 15 2021 10:18 GMT
#2
Wow thats quick. I was hoping to be held at the weekend.Thanks for the thread indeed.
benno1988
Profile Joined April 2020
30 Posts
September 15 2021 10:26 GMT
#3
On September 15 2021 19:13 oEkY wrote:
The Ro16 group selection is live right now, would have loved an english stream, but apparently its not available :/


I agree. I would love to know what the players think about each other and why they pick certain players into their groups and if they are satisfied with their group and their predictions how the group will turn out.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 15 2021 10:28 GMT
#4
Can someone put a link please !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 15 2021 10:28 GMT
#5
Even in korean! Tho i don't understand anything haha
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 15 2021 10:31 GMT
#6
Wait! Found it dohhh!!

On Calm's stream of course !

https://tl.net/video/streams/brainzerg7
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
September 15 2021 10:31 GMT
#7
Watching from

http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
September 15 2021 10:32 GMT
#8
Was guessing mini will pick 815 lol
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 15 2021 10:34 GMT
#9
On September 15 2021 19:32 HOLYBATS wrote:
Was guessing mini will pick 815 lol


Yes

Mini's PvZ is better than Best's PvZ! He'll beat 815 with ease!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
benno1988
Profile Joined April 2020
30 Posts
September 15 2021 10:35 GMT
#10
Does the switching power still exist?Who of the players have the switching power? (to swap two players from different groups. I could imagine 815 is swaped away in another group)
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany648 Posts
September 15 2021 10:36 GMT
#11
for those who might not know that its happening or just cant watch it right now, i'll update my first post with the Groups (in spoiler-tags if someone minds)
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 15 2021 10:37 GMT
#12
On September 15 2021 19:35 benno1988 wrote:
Does the switching power still exist?Who of the players have the switching power? (to swap two players from different groups. I could imagine 815 is swaped away in another group)

I think it still exists. Now, Larva should have it but he's no longer participating.. so I guess Mini has is now
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 15 2021 10:44 GMT
#13
Zero picks Stork
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-15 10:57:36
September 15 2021 10:56 GMT
#14
Wait wait ...

Rush pick ???? who is ???
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany648 Posts
September 15 2021 10:59 GMT
#15
a 4 Terran Group would be great, hopefully BarrackS picks Light or Royal
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
September 15 2021 10:59 GMT
#16
On September 15 2021 19:56 prosatan wrote:
Wait wait ...

Rush pick ???? who is ???

Barracks
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany648 Posts
September 15 2021 10:59 GMT
#17
On September 15 2021 19:56 prosatan wrote:
Wait wait ...

Rush pick ???? who is ???


thought it is beast, changed that cause u said BarrackS, haha, dont recognize them either
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 15 2021 11:00 GMT
#18
Yess!! I wrote correct! Rush -> Barracks
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 15 2021 11:00 GMT
#19
On September 15 2021 19:59 oEkY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2021 19:56 prosatan wrote:
Wait wait ...

Rush pick ???? who is ???


thought it is beast, changed that cause u said BarrackS, haha, dont recognize them either

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany648 Posts
September 15 2021 11:02 GMT
#20
guess we were both correct in one way or the other... now they are in the same group
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 15 2021 11:15 GMT
#21
On September 15 2021 20:02 oEkY wrote:
guess we were both correct in one way or the other... now they are in the same group

Right !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany648 Posts
September 15 2021 11:29 GMT
#22
Guess it will be beast <--> Light
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany648 Posts
September 15 2021 11:49 GMT
#23
wow, didnt guess that at all, but i like the outcome of Mini's decision
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
September 15 2021 11:51 GMT
#24
Group C ^^ -_-
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masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
September 15 2021 12:37 GMT
#25
Group C is insane!
It hurts to think that the stork is the least favorite
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1023 Posts
September 15 2021 12:56 GMT
#26
Stork crying on stream
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
248 Posts
September 15 2021 15:40 GMT
#27
Stork normally underdelivers but occasionally he plays beast mode. Remember the ASL where he took out Last? I definitely did not expect that one. So maybe he gets lucky against Light lol but unlikely. PvT is Protoss strong matchup!
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
September 15 2021 17:59 GMT
#28
Um Group C??? RIP Stork ;-;
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19235 Posts
September 15 2021 19:21 GMT
#29
Group C is definitely the group of death. No poll needed.
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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
September 15 2021 20:07 GMT
#30
Group A is also not easy with Mini, Soma and Jyj fighting for two spots. But group C is indeed tougher. Lucky people from groups B and D. Guess hero is the happiest with today's outcome.
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End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada73 Posts
September 15 2021 20:08 GMT
#31
anyone know who should i put my liquibets on group C?
Elevenst
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
September 15 2021 20:21 GMT
#32
hard hard group for zero
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
September 16 2021 01:10 GMT
#33
Very weird groups. C could be a semifinals, while D and especially B are groups of life.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 16 2021 07:49 GMT
#34
On September 16 2021 05:08 End1ess wrote:
anyone know who should i put my liquibets on group C?

Zero / Light

Zero can beat both Stork and Snow.
Light has improved so much and he has amazing TvP ; I know both Snow and Stork have very good PvT, but I'll go with Light and Zero
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
September 16 2021 07:56 GMT
#35
wtf happened with group c.. that's insane..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey727 Posts
September 16 2021 09:06 GMT
#36
On September 16 2021 16:49 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2021 05:08 End1ess wrote:
anyone know who should i put my liquibets on group C?

Zero / Light

Zero can beat both Stork and Snow.
Light has improved so much and he has amazing TvP ; I know both Snow and Stork have very good PvT, but I'll go with Light and Zero


I will go with Snow/Light. In ASL 11 Group C was also brutal.Larva/Snow/Bisu/Effort. Snow was able to qualify.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4091 Posts
September 16 2021 12:05 GMT
#37
Is the ro16 gonna be bo3 or bo5?
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
September 16 2021 12:23 GMT
#38
On September 16 2021 21:05 Magic Powers wrote:
Is the ro16 gonna be bo3 or bo5?

[image loading]

bo1 two first games

bo3 winners match
bo3 lossers match
bo3 final match
Ruff
Profile Joined August 2006
Kazakhstan179 Posts
September 16 2021 12:25 GMT
#39
I like soma, SnOw and mini.
"Keep on dreaming, boy, cause someday you will shine" (Ogogo).
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1023 Posts
September 16 2021 15:39 GMT
#40
mini // jyj
hero // sorry
snow // zero
soulkey // rush
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
September 16 2021 18:58 GMT
#41
so sad...
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4194 Posts
September 17 2021 14:40 GMT
#42
On September 16 2021 21:23 masoka82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2021 21:05 Magic Powers wrote:
Is the ro16 gonna be bo3 or bo5?

[image loading]

bo1 two first games

bo3 winners match
bo3 lossers match
bo3 final match

ro24 should have the same format tbh
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 18 2021 06:19 GMT
#43
On September 17 2021 03:58 itsdaniel wrote:
so sad...

Daniel don't be sad

Maybe Stork has a little chance after all
Let's see:

vs Snow: if he gets a BO advantage, like 4 gates vs reaver or dt vs 3 gates

vs Light: i know he lost in the past vs Light but his PvT is still very good

vs Zero: small chance but I do remember Stork was the first pro who came up with a solution to 973-4 !

I root for him. In fact, if I'm thinking well I like all players from group C haha

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-18 10:05:56
September 18 2021 10:05 GMT
#44
On September 18 2021 15:19 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2021 03:58 itsdaniel wrote:
so sad...

Daniel don't be sad

Maybe Stork has a little chance after all
Let's see:

vs Snow: if he gets a BO advantage, like 4 gates vs reaver or dt vs 3 gates

vs Light: i know he lost in the past vs Light but his PvT is still very good

vs Zero: small chance but I do remember Stork was the first pro who came up with a solution to 973-4 !

I root for him. In fact, if I'm thinking well I like all players from group C haha



Its closer than you might think. Its just that all those 3 guys are better than him, but not by a lot.
If i had to guess a % Stork against each of them in a BO3 (well, the actual format), onstage, on this particular map pool, I would say something like
Snow 57%
Light 53%
ZerO 55% (I know, but Stork is ridiculously strong at the match up right now, while ZerO is not at his best)

Then again, this is a pure guess. Games should be good for this group regardless.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-19 00:36:16
September 19 2021 00:35 GMT
#45
added RO16 to the calendar. hoping for some good matches! same as everyone else, I am excited for group C.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 19 2021 23:17 GMT
#46
Group C is so brutal. I can't see Stork getting out, but there isn't a clear favourite to take first place imo. It can just as easily be ZerO or Light or Snow. Then again, maybe Stork gets first place, but that's a pipe dream atm.
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