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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 08 2020 20:58 GMT
#181
Holy bonkers, probably one of the best if not best ro16 of all time! What did we do especially in these dark times to deserve such high quality games? Now that's the BeSt I wanted to see all years, if he continues to play like this he can smash anybody. Larva's strategic play was awesome and going 4 pool on 4 player map was insane. Action played really bad, felt like he already gave up on 2nd game vs. BeSt. Light played monstrously but in the end his opponents outplayed him.
sunbeams are never made like me...
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
October 08 2020 22:03 GMT
#182
Really great games.
Glad to see Best advancing.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
October 09 2020 01:13 GMT
#183
Here is a higher res pic, it's just a sticker guys

[image loading]

https://i.imgur.com/63NV6Th.jpg
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afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States337 Posts
October 09 2020 01:28 GMT
#184
On October 09 2020 10:13 razorsuKe wrote:
Here is a higher res pic, it's just a sticker guys

[image loading]

https://i.imgur.com/63NV6Th.jpg


If anyone is curious about it - http://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=838327
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44202 Posts
October 09 2020 06:54 GMT
#185
I am sooooo glad larva made it !
this is a quote
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States620 Posts
October 09 2020 07:33 GMT
#186
Ive always felt like Best's potential to be a top 3 protoss was held back by choking in decisive matches. Maybe this season he could prove us wrong once?
JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria409 Posts
October 09 2020 13:28 GMT
#187
It's surely weird to see the best terran out of the ASL but Best obviously played better. What am I saying, the games were amazing! The only thing that's missing in this ASL is Effort.
The subject-matter of the art of living is each person's own life.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8336 Posts
October 09 2020 13:48 GMT
#188
On October 09 2020 22:28 JoinTheRain wrote:
It's surely weird to see the best terran out of the ASL but Best obviously played better. What am I saying, the games were amazing! The only thing that's missing in this ASL is Effort.

AND JAEDONGGGGG !!!!!!!!!!
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thislooksgreat1
Profile Joined January 2020
59 Posts
October 09 2020 13:53 GMT
#189
Fantastic games!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8128 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-09 16:29:40
October 09 2020 16:27 GMT
#190
Really great games, happy to see Best do great. Definitely not the 2 players I foresaw advancing, sucks that Light is out making Rush the only T in the Ro8. Maybe though we'll get our first PvZ finals in like what, 11 years? Counting only "premiere" starleagues (OSL/MSL/KSL/ASL) I don't think there's been a PvZ final since Jangbi vs Luxury in that one MSL?
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-09 16:43:02
October 09 2020 16:39 GMT
#191
Great games!

Every player really gave their all and showed some neat moves: Action's cunning bag of builds, Light's single dummy turret to fake a 3rd expo, Larva's mass queens, Best's ninja DTs.... Too many to count!

BW is well alive! Looking forward for Flash's random!
gg no re thx
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-09 21:32:59
October 09 2020 18:46 GMT
#192
Those were really awesome games. Don't understand why Light played so conservative though. He has shown he can play the mass exp style before, he totally should have used that. There's no way he would've lost using that. He was so dedicated to his few bases it cost him the victory. All the best to Best though, I love the guy, but yea, this was more of a misplay by Light. And Larva... Well he's just the best
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 09 2020 20:09 GMT
#193
Fun games and really close series. Larva beating Light 2-0 and advancing in first place is pretty wild. He looked pretty solid overall. BeSt beating action also felt really odd, but I chuck this to Action's mind games backfiring hard in that second game on Benzene. Should've just rolled with mass hydras or something. First game between them was just weird.

I'm surprised no one is talking about the first BeSt vs Light game. BeSt threw away like 15 zealots to pure mines when he tried to bust Light's mining base at the end of the game and Light barely had much of an army there (think like 5 tanks?). I facepalmed hard when I saw that. Not to say this was a guaranteed 100% win, but that move essentially sealed his fate that game. It's somewhat akin to Light's marine blocking the SCV from blocking the choke and allowing the lings from Larva's 4 pool to make it in, except this was an AI thing while BeSt chose not to split and had all his zealots evaporate before making much contact with the tanks.

On October 10 2020 01:27 Ideas wrote:
Really great games, happy to see Best do great. Definitely not the 2 players I foresaw advancing, sucks that Light is out making Rush the only T in the Ro8. Maybe though we'll get our first PvZ finals in like what, 11 years? Counting only "premiere" starleagues (OSL/MSL/KSL/ASL) I don't think there's been a PvZ final since Jangbi vs Luxury in that one MSL?

There was EffOrt vs Bisu in VNSL which was essentially ASL's predecessor (almost like ASL0 lol). However, you are right. We haven't had a PvZ finals in all 9 editions of ASL so perhaps we may get it in this one.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-09 21:33:08
October 09 2020 21:28 GMT
#194
On October 10 2020 05:09 BigFan wrote:
Fun games and really close series. Larva beating Light 2-0 and advancing in first place is pretty wild. He looked pretty solid overall. BeSt beating action also felt really odd, but I chuck this to Action's mind games backfiring hard in that second game on Benzene. Should've just rolled with mass hydras or something. First game between them was just weird.

I'm surprised no one is talking about the first BeSt vs Light game. BeSt threw away like 15 zealots to pure mines when he tried to bust Light's mining base at the end of the game and Light barely had much of an army there (think like 5 tanks?). I facepalmed hard when I saw that. Not to say this was a guaranteed 100% win, but that move essentially sealed his fate that game. It's somewhat akin to Light's marine blocking the SCV from blocking the choke and allowing the lings from Larva's 4 pool to make it in, except this was an AI thing while BeSt chose not to split and had all his zealots evaporate before making much contact with the tanks.


Yea that was a big throw but I doubt it woulda made him win the game anyway. It was a shame cause it coulda been longer game and possibly he would still have a chance. He was playing from so far behind that game though. I mean its already amazing he made it that long, but I dont think he would've ever won that game. Still a great game for Best though, despite losing.

Edit: I do think with perfect templar control he could've won that game. Best nowhere near played perfectly, but it was damn good. I mean same can be said for Light of course. But we like to root for the loser.
its me
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 10 2020 01:01 GMT
#195
On October 10 2020 06:28 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 05:09 BigFan wrote:
Fun games and really close series. Larva beating Light 2-0 and advancing in first place is pretty wild. He looked pretty solid overall. BeSt beating action also felt really odd, but I chuck this to Action's mind games backfiring hard in that second game on Benzene. Should've just rolled with mass hydras or something. First game between them was just weird.

I'm surprised no one is talking about the first BeSt vs Light game. BeSt threw away like 15 zealots to pure mines when he tried to bust Light's mining base at the end of the game and Light barely had much of an army there (think like 5 tanks?). I facepalmed hard when I saw that. Not to say this was a guaranteed 100% win, but that move essentially sealed his fate that game. It's somewhat akin to Light's marine blocking the SCV from blocking the choke and allowing the lings from Larva's 4 pool to make it in, except this was an AI thing while BeSt chose not to split and had all his zealots evaporate before making much contact with the tanks.


Yea that was a big throw but I doubt it woulda made him win the game anyway. It was a shame cause it coulda been longer game and possibly he would still have a chance. He was playing from so far behind that game though. I mean its already amazing he made it that long, but I dont think he would've ever won that game. Still a great game for Best though, despite losing.

Edit: I do think with perfect templar control he could've won that game. Best nowhere near played perfectly, but it was damn good. I mean same can be said for Light of course. But we like to root for the loser.


Best seemed rather 'sloppy' with engagements throughout. Even in the last game vs Light, his repeated drops were rather inefficient in terms of economic trade-off. But seems to me that Best is a macro beast, and that's all part of his gameplan - take the occasional tactical losses in order to gain a bigger strategic advantage. Though inefficient, the engagements distracted Light, forced him to turtle, and allowed Best to freely expand and control the map.

The flip side of such gameplan is that Best often don't micro his army as well as, say, Bisu. But ultimately it's a feature, rather than a bug, of his overall approach to the game.

(I'm basing this notion from the group games. I'm not an avid follower of Best's games. So do correct me if I'm wrong).
gg no re thx
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 10 2020 02:33 GMT
#196
On October 10 2020 06:28 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 05:09 BigFan wrote:
Fun games and really close series. Larva beating Light 2-0 and advancing in first place is pretty wild. He looked pretty solid overall. BeSt beating action also felt really odd, but I chuck this to Action's mind games backfiring hard in that second game on Benzene. Should've just rolled with mass hydras or something. First game between them was just weird.

I'm surprised no one is talking about the first BeSt vs Light game. BeSt threw away like 15 zealots to pure mines when he tried to bust Light's mining base at the end of the game and Light barely had much of an army there (think like 5 tanks?). I facepalmed hard when I saw that. Not to say this was a guaranteed 100% win, but that move essentially sealed his fate that game. It's somewhat akin to Light's marine blocking the SCV from blocking the choke and allowing the lings from Larva's 4 pool to make it in, except this was an AI thing while BeSt chose not to split and had all his zealots evaporate before making much contact with the tanks.


Yea that was a big throw but I doubt it woulda made him win the game anyway. It was a shame cause it coulda been longer game and possibly he would still have a chance. He was playing from so far behind that game though. I mean its already amazing he made it that long, but I dont think he would've ever won that game. Still a great game for Best though, despite losing.

Edit: I do think with perfect templar control he could've won that game. Best nowhere near played perfectly, but it was damn good. I mean same can be said for Light of course. But we like to root for the loser.

I disagree. Light's base on the left side was getting mined out and was recently attacked by BeSt who killed some workers too. The main mining base for Light was the one on the right. If BeSt controlled the engagement much better than he did, he shuts down the mining of Light and puts him on a timer seeing as BeSt still has 2 mining bases which had a good number of resources as I recall. Not to mention that Light's overall army wasn't as big which would favour BeSt if they were to engage at that moment. BeSt however throwing away like 15 zealots due to not splitting was huge at that point. Go back and watch the game (I should too incase) but I remember a huge amount of zealots evaporating to a mine field. Even as a macro beast, losing that many is essentially gg in this kind of situation imo.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11066 Posts
October 10 2020 02:53 GMT
#197
What an amazing night
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Geographer
Profile Joined December 2010
United States185 Posts
October 10 2020 05:10 GMT
#198
These were amazing games but I'm disappointed there will only be one terran in the quarterfinals.
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
October 10 2020 06:44 GMT
#199
Reading through these comments, I was bewildered: 4 pool? Two games vs Light? Seems I missed one game.
BW
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-12 14:41:01
October 12 2020 14:40 GMT
#200
Well all the games are available here :+ Show Spoiler +
dunno how you missed one

This group was so sick, we need more content like that, too bad KSL is dead
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