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[T.E.N.] FlaSh Random Match
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Ziggy
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TelecoM
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whylessness
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TT1
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Brainojack
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On August 04 2020 12:02 TT1 wrote: gonna be interesting to see how the P's approach playing vs R, hoping to see some 1g @ nat openers What's that do, allow a forge if zerg and core if t or p? | ||
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InvictusRage
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srj
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On August 04 2020 14:03 InvictusRage wrote: Do people know if VODs will be available? I imagine so, there are YouTube VODs for the last TEN event. | ||
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TT1
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On August 04 2020 13:41 Brainojack wrote: What's that do, allow a forge if zerg and core if t or p? vs Z - you play it out like a normal 1g @ nat zeal pressure, ideally you scout their ovi fast enough to cancel ur gas, if not you can core at your wall and go into fast SG > nexus (with a zeal wall) vs T - 1g zeal pressure into gas/core or 1g gasless nexus (depends if T is going gasless or not, basically you match T) vs P - 1g at nat is weakest here but it's still playable, you go into gas/core and add a 2nd gate behind it, rally goons in front of your nat gate so you don't get rolled by goon pressure/lose your gate. The ideal scenario would be getting a re-scout in with a hidden probe, if not you have to respect the threat of DT and tech into a robo or forge behind it (assuming you wanna macro). You could also gamble and go 3g goon allin. | ||
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InvictusRage
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TT1
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12p gas is fine vs 1 gate/center 2 gate but it sucks vs forge expo, he should be able to outplay FlaSh in a ZvP even from a slight b.o disadvantage tho. Imo it's better than going 12 hatch and dying to 9p speed or center gates. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8494 Posts
 )But i need to go and I might be able to catch the last two games ! I think it's BO1... so only 3 games today (not sure 100% tho..) | ||
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kogeT
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Ollin
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On August 04 2020 15:50 kogeT wrote: A bit of a pitty that no Terran in the lineup. Flash vs T are probably most interesting games to see due to his in depth knowledge of the match ups. exactly, that doesn't make any sense... On August 04 2020 14:17 TT1 wrote: and for ZerO i think going 12p into gas is fine, it works well vs Z and T 12p gas is fine vs 1 gate/center 2 gate but it sucks vs forge expo, he should be able to outplay FlaSh in a ZvP even from a slight b.o disadvantage tho. Imo it's better than going 12 hatch and dying to 9p speed or center gates. You can still defend 12hatch from center gates. ZerO already did it at least one time in a big tournament. For me, personally, 12hatch is the choice vs random. | ||
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radadaundandan
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prosatan
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On August 04 2020 18:27 radadaundandan wrote: As if Flash was not imba enough as Terran, now he can get a Random -> Terran... ooops! Zero said if Flash gets terran it is an auto-loss but he isn't afraid of his other two races. I must get home in time for this  | ||
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Dante08
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https://www.twitch.tv/theesportsnight_en | ||
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SenorChang
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On August 04 2020 19:03 Dante08 wrote: Here are the english streams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IpF4cuyscs https://www.twitch.tv/theesportsnight_en many thanks! | ||
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SenorChang
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Dante08
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Second game Flash did a weird run around Best's initial move out and got into sort of a base trade with Flash coming out on top. Third game Flash Zerg! | ||
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Burned Toast
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Dante08
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SenorChang
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funKy_KroK
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Psychonian
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On August 04 2020 19:53 SenorChang wrote: it's not that best looks happy he won, it looks like he's relieved he didn't lose yeah i mean, even if he's flash, losing to a random player isn't something a player of Best's caliber wants to happen ever, especially without flash rolling terran On August 04 2020 19:54 funKy_KroK wrote: which location are these matches played on? NEXON Arena, the location Proleague used to be held at | ||
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funKy_KroK
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thx! the funny thing is I already went to the Nexon Arena during my trip in Korean, but I didnt recognize it  | ||
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Ziggy
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SenorChang
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what is zero doing with his mouse? | ||
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ggsimida
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prosatan
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Let's see some random Flash !! | ||
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ggsimida
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prosatan
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Zero is quite unlucky today  | ||
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SenorChang
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Dante08
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Dante08
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Dangermousecatdog
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Edit: That face on Zero lol | ||
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SenorChang
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prosatan
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Let's hope he gets protoss or zerg in the final game ! | ||
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ggsimida
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fLyiNgDroNe
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Vindicare605
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You're only supposed to have a 33% of rolling a mirror match, but my experience playing random tells me that it's more like 55-60% mirrors. It's very annoying. I once played 9 ZvZs in a row, I fucking HATE ZvZ. Quit playing Random after that. | ||
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Dante08
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fLyiNgDroNe
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Amen. | ||
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Ziggy
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fLyiNgDroNe
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On August 04 2020 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote: I fucking HATE ZvZ. Quit playing Random after that. Beautiful random rant there, bud! <3 | ||
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ggsimida
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fLyiNgDroNe
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SenorChang
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On August 04 2020 20:36 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: i love how Bisu lost a couple of pvz on purpose in front of Flash to make him think hydra is a good unit toi have, only to watch Flash land on his face trying to go hydra vs Best lmao. Jebaited next level mind games | ||
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MinixTheNerd
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b0lt
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JustPassingBy
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1. Pick random 2. Roll terran 3. ??? 4. Profit | ||
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prosatan
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SenorChang
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mcmartini
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ejac
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On August 04 2020 21:01 mcmartini wrote: Sorry just joined what were the first two match scores? Both 2-1 not flash. | ||
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Ziggy
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Dante08
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SenorChang
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KobraKay
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Just got back....just in time to open the stream and see the scores T_T I'll catch the vods later. | ||
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MinixTheNerd
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TT1
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flash had his opening vs zero in the zvz, just miss-micro'd | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1711 Posts
even more interesting if he can pick anything he wants for every game/series (P/T/Z/R) edit: that 14cc vs Z while going random was such a throw -- but it did save us from a non-R game and that "recall trap" w/the supply depot placement in g2 vs bisu was really nice | ||
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SenorChang
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On August 04 2020 22:46 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: do we know if Flash is going R in every game for next ASL? or does he get to pick between T and R? even more interesting if he can pick anything he wants for every game/series (P/T/Z/R) edit: that 14cc vs Z while going random was such a throw -- but it did save us from a non-R game and that "recall trap" w/the supply depot placement in g2 vs bisu was really nice pretty sure it's R every game, how would he get to pick between R & T? | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1711 Posts
On August 04 2020 23:35 SenorChang wrote: pretty sure it's R every game, how would he get to pick between R & T? Well the "how" is easy. You may mean "why"? Well, to make things interesting. Looks like it's too difficult to win with R without getting lucky and rolling your main. Although I can understand if we want to wait for a season or 2 of Flash going with pure R (and losing) before we give him more of an advantage. edit: imo it would be interesting if every player is allowed to pick anything (P/T/Z/R) for every single game (maybe r08 onwards)... not right then and there, but announced a week before the match so there can still be a lot of preparation going into it | ||
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mierin
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Disregard
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On August 05 2020 10:10 mierin wrote: Are the VODs to this in a non-intuitive place? I went to the TEN twitch and couldn't find anything but clips. http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/59977784 | ||
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TT1
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unlisted for some reason | ||
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mierin
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mierin
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Disregard
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Probably to prevent copyright strikes and also many live streams tend to go private or deleted after on youtube channels | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
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On August 05 2020 12:38 mierin wrote: Yeah, I feel like this series is the embodiment of why random was banned by kespa. It was fun, but...competitive wise, eh. He's got nothing left to prove and playing random adds entertainment and suspense. I like it. Although i will say his ling micro in the zvz wasn't good enough. | ||
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[AS]Rattus
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SlayerS_BunkiE
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On August 05 2020 12:38 mierin wrote: Yeah, I feel like this series is the embodiment of why random was banned by kespa. It was fun, but...competitive wise, eh. I don't think that makes much sense. We ban things that give an unfair advantage, not things that make people lose.. obviously under the assumption that everyone wants to win. If Larva wants to play with his feet, by all means let him | ||
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Kaolla
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On August 05 2020 12:38 mierin wrote: Yeah, I feel like this series is the embodiment of why random was banned by kespa. It was fun, but...competitive wise, eh. Ah come on man, isn't this great to watch? I mean, yea he certainly still has some improving to do, but I'm sure if anyone can do it, it's Flash. I for one think it's great he's switching (if that is really happening) and it would definitely make his games so much more interesting to watch. | ||
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RKC
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GTR
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On August 05 2020 12:38 mierin wrote: Yeah, I feel like this series is the embodiment of why random was banned by kespa. It was fun, but...competitive wise, eh. i have to keep repeating this every time this gets posted? kespa never banned random. it was that pro teams disallowed players from using it because it was widely believed by coaching staffs that spending time playing random was wasted compared to focusing on one race. simply put, if you were a scouted to be a potential pro while playing random, every pro team would tell you unless you focused on one race, they wouldn't put you on their team. | ||
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