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[T.E.N.] FlaSh Random Match

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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 12:07:06
August 03 2020 21:07 GMT
#1

The Esports Night: FlaSh Random Match


Tuesday, Aug 04 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)




Streams


(Korean) AfreecaTV Stream

(English) Twitch Stream


Matchups




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(R)FlaSh              (P)BeSt

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(R)FlaSh              (Z)ZerO

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(R)FlaSh              (P)Bisu





Recommended Games


+ Show Spoiler [FlaSh vs BeSt] +
Poll: Recommend Match 1? (FlaSh v BeSt)

Yes (6)
 
46%

If you have time (5)
 
38%

No (2)
 
15%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Match 1? (FlaSh v BeSt)

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [FlaSh vs ZerO] +
Poll: Recommend Match 2? (FlaSh v ZerO)

Yes (7)
 
50%

No (6)
 
43%

If you have time (1)
 
7%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Match 2? (FlaSh v ZerO)

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [FlaSh vs Bisu] +
Poll: Recommend Match 3? (FlaSh v Bisu)

Yes (8)
 
67%

No (2)
 
17%

If you have time (2)
 
17%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Match 3? (FlaSh v Bisu)

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time





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FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
August 03 2020 21:55 GMT
#2
Any info on the matches? Bo1/Bo3/Bo5?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
August 03 2020 22:56 GMT
#3
Amazing, I will really enjoy watching these matches!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
August 04 2020 00:26 GMT
#4
might stay up for this..
Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 01:10:25
August 04 2020 01:10 GMT
#5
I think he'll beat Bisu (who is in poor form) and BeSt (he owns Best's soul) but lose to Zero. Cool event. Brood War stays mixing it up.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10004 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 03:10:02
August 04 2020 03:02 GMT
#6
gonna be interesting to see how the P's approach playing vs R, hoping to see some 1g @ nat openers
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
August 04 2020 04:41 GMT
#7
On August 04 2020 12:02 TT1 wrote:
gonna be interesting to see how the P's approach playing vs R, hoping to see some 1g @ nat openers


What's that do, allow a forge if zerg and core if t or p?
InvictusRage
Profile Joined August 2011
United States230 Posts
August 04 2020 05:03 GMT
#8
Do people know if VODs will be available?
srj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada134 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 05:04:46
August 04 2020 05:04 GMT
#9
On August 04 2020 14:03 InvictusRage wrote:
Do people know if VODs will be available?


I imagine so, there are YouTube VODs for the last TEN event.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10004 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 05:12:48
August 04 2020 05:06 GMT
#10
On August 04 2020 13:41 Brainojack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2020 12:02 TT1 wrote:
gonna be interesting to see how the P's approach playing vs R, hoping to see some 1g @ nat openers


What's that do, allow a forge if zerg and core if t or p?


vs Z - you play it out like a normal 1g @ nat zeal pressure, ideally you scout their ovi fast enough to cancel ur gas, if not you can core at your wall and go into fast SG > nexus (with a zeal wall)

vs T - 1g zeal pressure into gas/core or 1g gasless nexus (depends if T is going gasless or not, basically you match T)

vs P - 1g at nat is weakest here but it's still playable, you go into gas/core and add a 2nd gate behind it, rally goons in front of your nat gate so you don't get rolled by goon pressure/lose your gate. The ideal scenario would be getting a re-scout in with a hidden probe, if not you have to respect the threat of DT and tech into a robo or forge behind it (assuming you wanna macro). You could also gamble and go 3g goon allin.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
InvictusRage
Profile Joined August 2011
United States230 Posts
August 04 2020 05:06 GMT
#11
That is super helpful, thank you so much!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10004 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 05:18:14
August 04 2020 05:17 GMT
#12
and for ZerO i think going 12p into gas is fine, it works well vs Z and T

12p gas is fine vs 1 gate/center 2 gate but it sucks vs forge expo, he should be able to outplay FlaSh in a ZvP even from a slight b.o disadvantage tho. Imo it's better than going 12 hatch and dying to 9p speed or center gates.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7964 Posts
August 04 2020 06:39 GMT
#13
Damn! I know about this since JinJin translated the video (many thanks )

But i need to go and I might be able to catch the last two games !

I think it's BO1... so only 3 games today (not sure 100% tho..)
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
August 04 2020 06:50 GMT
#14
A bit of a pitty that no Terran in the lineup. Flash vs T are probably most interesting games to see due to his in depth knowledge of the match ups.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Ollin
Profile Joined December 2017
Poland77 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-04 08:10:23
August 04 2020 08:01 GMT
#15
On August 04 2020 15:50 kogeT wrote:
A bit of a pitty that no Terran in the lineup. Flash vs T are probably most interesting games to see due to his in depth knowledge of the match ups.


exactly, that doesn't make any sense...

On August 04 2020 14:17 TT1 wrote:
and for ZerO i think going 12p into gas is fine, it works well vs Z and T

12p gas is fine vs 1 gate/center 2 gate but it sucks vs forge expo, he should be able to outplay FlaSh in a ZvP even from a slight b.o disadvantage tho. Imo it's better than going 12 hatch and dying to 9p speed or center gates.


You can still defend 12hatch from center gates. ZerO already did it at least one time in a big tournament. For me, personally, 12hatch is the choice vs random.
iRk-Ollin
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
August 04 2020 09:27 GMT
#16
As if Flash was not imba enough as Terran, now he can get a Random -> Terran... ooops!
Flash returns...
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7964 Posts
August 04 2020 09:53 GMT
#17
On August 04 2020 18:27 radadaundandan wrote:
As if Flash was not imba enough as Terran, now he can get a Random -> Terran... ooops!

Zero said if Flash gets terran it is an auto-loss but he isn't afraid of his other two races.

I must get home in time for this
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
August 04 2020 10:03 GMT
#18
Here are the english streams



https://www.twitch.tv/theesportsnight_en
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4729 Posts
August 04 2020 10:26 GMT
#19
On August 04 2020 19:03 Dante08 wrote:
Here are the english streams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IpF4cuyscs

https://www.twitch.tv/theesportsnight_en

many thanks!

ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4729 Posts
August 04 2020 10:34 GMT
#20
FlaSh micro gets him through! what a strange game
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