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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4147 Posts
April 07 2020 11:15 GMT
#201
That was a nailbiter lol
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 07 2020 11:15 GMT
#202
We bout to see the reverse sweep/
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
att
Profile Joined March 2020
128 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-07 11:16:44
April 07 2020 11:15 GMT
#203
BISU MY Boy here we go, final match and we are going to see it happen here right!!! bisu VS light semi finals coming up i can feel it!!! BISU HERE WE GO ARE WE PUMPED, YES WE ARE!!!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 07 2020 11:15 GMT
#204
Toss cheeses always so toxic.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
April 07 2020 11:15 GMT
#205
Bisu makes up for the start of the series.

Okay all you race haters, P earned it there Bisu Fighting!
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1977 Posts
April 07 2020 11:15 GMT
#206
that sure was a hitchhiker game
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-07 11:16:40
April 07 2020 11:16 GMT
#207
for an aggressive player, soma needs to really work on his micro

ps i know everyone is impressed by bisu but that was basically a build order loss there
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 07 2020 11:16 GMT
#208
Game 5 again! What a great ro8!!!
sunbeams are never made like me...
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3132 Posts
April 07 2020 11:16 GMT
#209
God damn that felt tense. Bisu defense was awesome with his probes.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia443 Posts
April 07 2020 11:16 GMT
#210
On April 07 2020 20:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 20:00 goody153 wrote:
On April 07 2020 19:55 kerpal wrote:
didn't reach say that if terran were manly enough they would make m&m work vs protoss?

I wish there was some really stubborn ballsy terran pro who just tries to make bio work against protoss. That would be fun to watch

i have seen multiple variations of mnm.some of them include tank support.but re mostly for killer timing.i dont recall a pure lategame macro only mnm based.it always transition to tanks vulture.


There is one. ForGG vs Kal if I remember correctly. Incredible thing.
j.r.r.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4147 Posts
April 07 2020 11:16 GMT
#211
Great strat by Bisu, that space behind the mineral just fits a cannon so it was hard for Soma to jump drones through.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
April 07 2020 11:16 GMT
#212
On April 07 2020 20:06 Disregard wrote:
Wonder whos idea was it to bring Hitchhiker back, anyone actually enjoy this map?

It's been one of my favourites. Delivers with the new metas and strats too I think
The heart's eternal vow
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 07 2020 11:16 GMT
#213
Nothing against bisu but I want his fanboy's tears.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
April 07 2020 11:16 GMT
#214
On April 07 2020 20:14 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 20:13 Lachrymose wrote:
On April 07 2020 20:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 07 2020 20:06 Lachrymose wrote:
On April 07 2020 20:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 07 2020 20:02 whaski wrote:
Eat that you disgusting cheeser!


uhh ok, this is the saddest line of reasoning

Hydra bust -> hidden expo -> Lurker bust

There's nothing wrong with having disdain for somebody playing the odds fishing for free wins over and over rather than trying to outplay somebody.


bamboozling is outplaying, killing the scouting probe is outplaying because he was denied scouting info, soma knowing that you can end the match when you're ahead is outplaying.

long macro games aren't the only way to say if someone is better or not, its the most archaic thinking on our forums.

bisu got played, and he would have been out if he did not correctly scout.

Killing a scouting probe with speedlings is not outplaying.

Throwing the dice in the dark is not outplaying.

Well, ok then, by your own words, Soma is outplaying Bisu because Bisu cannon rushed.

No, by my own words winning with a cannon rush is not a meaningful measure of outplaying somebody. I didn't claim Bisu was outplaying Soma by dying to a hidden expo.
~
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2072 Posts
April 07 2020 11:17 GMT
#215
On April 07 2020 20:09 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 20:06 weiliem wrote:
On April 07 2020 20:03 prosatan wrote:
No offense to Soma but he will be outplayed in a standard match!

He went for a hydra bust in the first game and a sneaky expansion in the second game

He tried a fishy strategy now and lost when it was scouted.

How did u derive that? Non of the games have gone close to a standard game yet.... game 2 is perhaps the closest....

Yes, they weren't standard because Soma tried to cheese a little bit!
On game 2 he had that sneaky expansion! He knew that if Bisu scouted there he was going to lose.

I remember an interview in the past with terran player Go.Go. He said about Bisu that he doesn't go for chesse against "weaker" players because he knows he is better than them. Go.go practiced accordingly and knew he won't face any dts or proxy gates

LOL so what do u have to say about game 4?
guess for his fans, when bisu does proxy its good strategy, but when his opponent does it its cheater cheese
Oppa feeding style
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 07 2020 11:17 GMT
#216
Hitchhiker looks like a map where long interesting games could be made, but it seems in practice cheese occurs instead.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 07 2020 11:18 GMT
#217
On April 07 2020 20:16 Lachrymose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 20:14 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On April 07 2020 20:13 Lachrymose wrote:
On April 07 2020 20:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 07 2020 20:06 Lachrymose wrote:
On April 07 2020 20:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 07 2020 20:02 whaski wrote:
Eat that you disgusting cheeser!


uhh ok, this is the saddest line of reasoning

Hydra bust -> hidden expo -> Lurker bust

There's nothing wrong with having disdain for somebody playing the odds fishing for free wins over and over rather than trying to outplay somebody.


bamboozling is outplaying, killing the scouting probe is outplaying because he was denied scouting info, soma knowing that you can end the match when you're ahead is outplaying.

long macro games aren't the only way to say if someone is better or not, its the most archaic thinking on our forums.

bisu got played, and he would have been out if he did not correctly scout.

Killing a scouting probe with speedlings is not outplaying.

Throwing the dice in the dark is not outplaying.

Well, ok then, by your own words, Soma is outplaying Bisu because Bisu cannon rushed.

No, by my own words winning with a cannon rush is not a meaningful measure of outplaying somebody. I didn't claim Bisu was outplaying Soma by dying to a hidden expo.

Winning = outplaying. That's the only definable measure of skill. To win.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13409 Posts
April 07 2020 11:18 GMT
#218
That was a pretty amazing hold from Bisu.

And in classic form he’ll now lose to a 3 hatch hydra or something lame.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 07 2020 11:18 GMT
#219
On April 07 2020 20:16 nojok wrote:
Nothing against bisu but I want his fanboy's tears.


Nevermind the fanboys, we need fresh blood. Flash has enough championships.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2072 Posts
April 07 2020 11:18 GMT
#220
On April 07 2020 20:16 NoS-Craig wrote:
God damn that felt tense. Bisu defense was awesome with his probes.

The zerglings couldnt even move.... That was amazing defence....
Oppa feeding style
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