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NeMu555
Profile Joined January 2016
114 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-19 17:27:31
February 19 2020 17:25 GMT
#81
On February 20 2020 01:38 Rus_Brain wrote:
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On February 19 2020 22:10 abuse wrote:
Does it matter at all what Casper referred to it? How is the accused perpetrator saying something to be taken as evidence? Do you think that anyone guilty would ever just go ahead and say in chat that he did in fact restart because he forgot the depot?

Leaves a sour taste when you look at it.
That's the case. A lone accusation by itself without an evidence costs little. And this up to accuser to provide proper evidence. At least this is stated in every constitution I know. In Latvia it is section 92, for example.

This core principle has recently eroded worldwide. And we can hear statements like: "You are highly likely %any_statement%", supported by a solid amount of Facebook likes, instead of bulletproof evidence.

So far the evidence here is the words "self evident", "obvious", "quite evident" and alike.

If Eon would have scouted a rax, or would have killed scouting scv, or would have noticed a bunker being built, a regame would have been unfair irrespective to whether Casper "forgot" or "could not" build a supply. And such odd situations are as well stated in the rulebook.

Our case if very different and I belive an enforced regame fit well with the frames admins built for themselves and must therefore abide.

Eliminating this regame timeframe entirely opens another rule abuse related to lags. But a threat made earlier here to abuse 2 minutes rule and play 4 pool only without scout is something to consider. We have anticipated that earlier and implemented a "Time waste" rule. Though it is much easier and professionally proactive to consider the threats and update the 2 mins rule to read as 1 min.

This case should have ended up the minute it happened. It didn't, and after an admin made a decision, the first one started to curse an admin and all the nation he belongs to. The other one started to make bad jokes and curse the first. It is just and fair to cut both tongues for ten tournaments.

The biased thing, guys, is that some of you got used to happy ends. In Soviet Russia you may end up in Gulag. Both Eon and Casper did.

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On February 20 2020 01:18 Q~Bert wrote:
If this mistake was made by Bonyth, fine, let's give it a go because he is a respectable pillar of the community who would offer the same if the roles were reversed. But Casper is a shirtless alcoholic who tells players in game that their mothers suck black dick and get gangbanged by nxggers.
The unbiased judgement.


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On February 19 2020 23:25 LG)Sabbath wrote:
because Brain is actually claiming that his depot magically didn't build
I'm claiming you have not supported your allegations properly.

I'm not going to go over all of the absurd things you keep saying but I will tell you this.
Giving examples to support your case that people would go to Gulag camps for jokes only shows your brain is eroding.
You are again trying to show some power and dominance with Kim Jong Jing tactics?
In the west your mentaly retarded although eloquent statements could get you in a hospital on pills for life? They might not be as tolerable as mama Russia.
In the wild you wouldn't come close to surviving an encounter with someone like me, not mentaly, not physically not anyhow, so don't talk about sh*t that your predecessors might have done if you don't want to end up just like them?

P.P @2pacalypse your worst bet yet buddy

User was temp banned for this post.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19054 Posts
February 19 2020 17:58 GMT
#82
Everyone stop acting like children.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
February 19 2020 18:00 GMT
#83
WTF is going on in this thread? We keep on getting mod reports... Do we need to shut this thread down or something?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
February 19 2020 18:09 GMT
#84
On February 20 2020 01:38 Rus_Brain wrote:
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On February 19 2020 23:25 LG)Sabbath wrote:
because Brain is actually claiming that his depot magically didn't build
I'm claiming you have not supported your allegations properly.

Let's clear things up, what do you think is the reason he didn't build a depot?
1) His mouse didn't work?
2) He forgot?
3) A new bug?
4) Something else, please describe

I thought you were claiming (1) but maybe it's (3) for you?
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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1762 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-19 18:49:29
February 19 2020 18:40 GMT
#85
Wtf are you talking about nemu shut the fuck up already, you don't even play your showmatches you loser you don't have permission to speak until you stop being a pussy loser

Edit: in all fairness models is also a pussy

User was temp banned for this post.
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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-19 18:40:49
February 19 2020 18:40 GMT
#86
Sorry but only the fact that you unbanned Eon saying that he can play on the tournament without winning any prize is absurd. Shows that you actually regret your first decision (so you are kinda in the wrong) but still punish him for something.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
February 19 2020 20:30 GMT
#87
On February 20 2020 03:40 ffswowsucks wrote:
Shows that you actually regret your first decision (so you are kinda in the wrong) but still punish him for something.


Running tournaments is hard work. I side with TO's that realize they made a mistake and want to change that decision.

ty Rusbrain for this tournament. Do what you think is best :D
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SuGo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-19 20:46:43
February 19 2020 20:40 GMT
#88
Here's my thoughts;

1. A few seconds before the official 2 min marker, a higher level player (I use 'higher' here subjectively to describe Casper) leaving because he 'forgot' something or his 'depot didn't build' is complete non sense. So, you're telling me, I can leave every game my probes don't get a perfect split because I 'forgot' to split the last one? No. A high level player just plays through the adversity and mistake. This isn't the first time someone has forgotten a supply-building in the opening. But leaving due to THAT is bullshit. If you told me your monitor shut off, etc, then maybe.

2. If the roles were reversed, do you think someone like Casper would've said "no problem, let's Re?"

3. Do we think that there is some extra support and favoritism going on here because it's a Russian tournament and a Russian player doing the cheating? I think so.

4. eOn is a top 3 foreigner, undisputed, I would say. And not just I, probably all of us, yes? Then why is he being punished because he made the right scout. That 2 minute rule was there just to prevent ladder abusers back in iccup. But even in current ladder, if you leave before 2 minutes, you still get a loss. So why are we leveraging old iccup rules from 10 years ago. In today's ladder, he would get a loss.

5. Are we saying that in any other tournament in the future, if you leave before 2 minutes for a reason like "I forgot" then you get a re game? Ok. Let's get BSL, BWCL, and all other leagues to agree. Sure, jeez can make whatever rules it wants, but if you're trying to do what's FAIR, then the 2 minute rule makes zero sense. Obviously, this is based on the context that the game was already decided just like eOn vs. Casper.

6. If someone in ASL did this, would they give a re-game? Obviously, we're not even half of the skill compared to ASL, but you get the idea.

Anyways, eOn is an awesome player and it's sad to see that he won't play in the next 10+ tournaments for a horrible Russian ruling that has no logical basis.
g0rynich
Profile Joined October 2016
Russian Federation139 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-19 21:00:09
February 19 2020 20:58 GMT
#89
On February 20 2020 05:40 SuGo wrote:
Here's my thoughts;

1. A few seconds before the official 2 min marker, a higher level player (I use 'higher' here subjectively to describe Casper) leaving because he 'forgot' something or his 'depot didn't build' is complete non sense. So, you're telling me, I can leave every game my probes don't get a perfect split because I 'forgot' to split the last one? No. A high level player just plays through the adversity and mistake. This isn't the first time someone has forgotten a supply-building in the opening. But leaving due to THAT is bullshit. If you told me your monitor shut off, etc, then maybe.

2. If the roles were reversed, do you think someone like Casper would've said "no problem, let's Re?"

3. Do we think that there is some extra support and favoritism going on here because it's a Russian tournament and a Russian player doing the cheating? I think so.

4. eOn is a top 3 foreigner, undisputed, I would say. And not just I, probably all of us, yes? Then why is he being punished because he made the right scout. That 2 minute rule was there just to prevent ladder abusers back in iccup. But even in current ladder, if you leave before 2 minutes, you still get a loss. So why are we leveraging old iccup rules from 10 years ago. In today's ladder, he would get a loss.

5. Are we saying that in any other tournament in the future, if you leave before 2 minutes for a reason like "I forgot" then you get a re game? Ok. Let's get BSL, BWCL, and all other leagues to agree. Sure, jeez can make whatever rules it wants, but if you're trying to do what's FAIR, then the 2 minute rule makes zero sense. Obviously, this is based on the context that the game was already decided just like eOn vs. Casper.

6. If someone in ASL did this, would they give a re-game? Obviously, we're not even half of the skill compared to ASL, but you get the idea.

Anyways, eOn is an awesome player and it's sad to see that he won't play in the next 10+ tournaments for a horrible Russian ruling that has no logical basis.


Horrible rule, you say... Okay, lets imagine how you decide this situaion. Imagine if my mouse got broken and i cant say it to eon. Im going p9 and he is going 12h - now i cant control my lings. Or may be i cant write for i while because my keyboard is off or lags. May be its a bug, i dont know. The only thing i know the game crushed to me because of technical problems.

The only thing i can do about this is leave a game and call to admin to make his decision about this situation. What would you do? Give me technical loss? Force a re-game if nothing really happened before, even could happen...?

As i think, if i were an admin or organizer of this tour - thats i could not be prejudice for both of players. So i believe capser and i believe eon. Since nothing happened yet i think in BO1 tournament regame its a more fair decision. Especially its not a money or knockout bounty game and no other situations of that kind happened with casper or eon during a past year season.

I really would like to listen for your type judgment you will make.

P. S. And as far as i know eon played re-game vs casper and lost. After that he got a bit mad and shittalked to much. He was warned and got a ban only for rude words. Too much trash talk were used.
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1594 Posts
February 19 2020 21:07 GMT
#90
If you're playing in a tournament and your mouse breaks, that is NOT cause for your opponent to have to play a re-game.
That is a PERSONAL problem that has NOTHING to do with your opponent or the game being played. If your keyboard is off or lags, that is a PERSONAL problem. Until you prove that there was indeed a game related bug and not a PERSONAL problem related to computer accessories, you're the only one at fault. Not your opponent, not the tournament organizer, not the admin. PERSONAL problems are not cause for a re-game. Personal problems such as computer accessories malfunctioning or running out of battery life is cause for a pause, NOT a re-game.
I am lost for words after reading so many nonsensical responses from so many clueless people.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19054 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-19 21:08:22
February 19 2020 21:08 GMT
#91
This thread is awful and you should all feel bad. Now nobody gets to post in it.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
February 19 2020 21:21 GMT
#92
lol! tofucake, the dad, has stepped in
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19054 Posts
February 26 2020 04:46 GMT
#93
If everybody has calmed down we can try this again.
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SouL)Z(Silver
Profile Joined September 2019
Russian Federation347 Posts
February 26 2020 05:46 GMT
#94
tofucake thx
SouL Gaming team | The organizer & admin large online & offline of tournaments on SC:R | Top1 National Caster
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
February 26 2020 09:04 GMT
#95
On February 26 2020 13:46 tofucake wrote:
If everybody has calmed down we can try this again.

thx man, I PMd you but you didnt answer.. glad you reconsidered and opened this thread again

much appreciated
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SouL)Z(Silver
Profile Joined September 2019
Russian Federation347 Posts
March 01 2020 07:49 GMT
#96
Please register for Jeez Weekly 59 @ Today 16:00 CET
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SouL)Z(Silver
Profile Joined September 2019
Russian Federation347 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-08 19:43:15
March 01 2020 21:27 GMT
#97
BW Jeez Weekly #59 @ March 1, 2020 (Escalade) - kr Soul)P(Parfume


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Final match between kr Parfume and kr Scan

As all other matches, the final one was played on Escalade, Protoss spawning at 7 and Terran at 5.
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Scan opens through a barrack in the CC in the wall.
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Parfume lays the nexus after the gate and upgrade to the range of the goons.
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In the corner of his base, the protoss makes a forge, citadel of adun and a starport intending to quickly get an Arbiter.
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With the help of 3 darks, the protoss tries to postpone the occupation of the 3rd СС for the terran, but Scan successfully translucent 2 times and without any difficulties takes 3rd base
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Scan goes on the attack at the limit of 135 and is on the top very close to the protoss pocket. Parfume coming from the rear and got a great stasis easily wins the battle
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Having accumulated limits, both players fight near the terran base and the protoss is forced to retreat with the remaining troops and regroup
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Scan immediately goes to the last attack on the main protoss, but in the end it loses the entire army, since the protoss is several times larger and by that time it has 7 nexus versus 3 from the terran. gG wp
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SouL)Z(Silver
Profile Joined September 2019
Russian Federation347 Posts
March 08 2020 06:06 GMT
#98
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Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
March 08 2020 17:08 GMT
#99
ru Dewalt 1 bounty (> kr Zelot)
pe Terror 2 bounties (> kr Bishop, > kr Parfume)
kr Scan yet saved Korean honor.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
March 08 2020 18:11 GMT
#100
Dewalt and TerrOr quite impressive! Well done guys.
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