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NeMu
Profile Joined September 2019
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-17 10:32:10
February 17 2020 10:20 GMT
#41
P.P And yes Dreamer you are a hater because you pressured me to play next russian and next russian with no time to breathe inbetween games even giving me countdowns 2 minutes untill w.o or something lol?
iRk-AGge
Profile Joined October 2017
Sweden400 Posts
February 17 2020 10:38 GMT
#42
ash_dreamer_1
Profile Joined February 2020
Russian Federation181 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-17 10:48:14
February 17 2020 10:46 GMT
#43
P.P And yes Dreamer you are a hater because you pressured me to play next russian and next russian with no time to breathe inbetween games even giving me countdowns 2 minutes untill w.o or something lol?

You wasted time throughout the tournament.
instead of playing your game, you chatted and trash talked.
You delayed the entire tournament and players
And I threatened you with a ban before the final game, when you did not start for more than 10 minutes
And Parfume not russian lol
NeMu
Profile Joined September 2019
68 Posts
February 17 2020 10:52 GMT
#44
On February 17 2020 19:46 ash_dreamer_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
P.P And yes Dreamer you are a hater because you pressured me to play next russian and next russian with no time to breathe inbetween games even giving me countdowns 2 minutes untill w.o or something lol?

You wasted time throughout the tournament.
instead of playing your game, you chatted and trash talked.
You delayed the entire tournament and players
And I threatened you with a ban before the final game, when you did not start for more than 10 minutes
And Parfume not russian lol


You are wrong again, when I talked to chat and was defending Eon SPX asked me 5-10min and I said np even take more time because of chat ofcourse.... as he picked our matchup despite what people think. Ask him he will confirm, he atleast has balls and manners big and good enough for my respect!
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-17 11:05:41
February 17 2020 10:56 GMT
#45
On February 17 2020 19:38 iRk-AGge wrote:
patyrykin.net
NeMu
Profile Joined September 2019
68 Posts
February 17 2020 18:09 GMT
#46
On February 17 2020 19:56 Rus_Brain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2020 19:38 iRk-AGge wrote:

As the main Sponsor/organizer of these tournaments I suggest you stop eating popcorn with the rest and actually fix this bulljive of a situation and rulebook you have? Just because I give you free advice in private bratushka doesn't mean I won't call a spade a spade and bash you in public.
I'm still expecting some official statement like the one you gave for Eon. The Public needs to have fairplay at the very minimum!
Peace
...onmYwaY
Profile Joined August 2018
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-17 18:36:08
February 17 2020 18:27 GMT
#47
1. Casper was first to act bad manner (curse etc.)
2. What is this 2min thing? How many times can I leave within 2min before I get disqualified? Does your rule book state that? In that case I will join next tour and 8rax/4pool every game and leave if it does not work - awesome! Never heard of any tournament with this stupid rule...?
3. If this is the way things are run I won’t watch this tournament any more. And I would applaud anyone to do the same. Make it Russian only and cheat how much you want instead.
4. Casper said something about Eon not attacking and used that as an argument for re. Would Eon have won if he had 9 pool despite 2min?
5. Dreamer said he analyzed the situation carefully? Can we read the conclusion anywhere? Arguments?
6. .. even I beat Casper 😉
NeMu
Profile Joined September 2019
68 Posts
February 17 2020 18:35 GMT
#48
On February 18 2020 03:27 ...onmYwaY wrote:
1. Casper was first to act bad manner (curse etc.)
2. What is this 2min thing? How many times can I leave within 2min before I get disqualified? Does your rule book state that? In that case I will join next tour and 8rax/4pool every game and leave if it does not work - awesome! Never heard of any tournament with this stupid rule...?
3. If this is the way things are run I won’t watch this tournament any more. And I would applaud anyone to do the same. Make it Russian only and cheat how much you want instead.
4... even I beat Casper 😉

My guy!!! Big time respect brother. Free lessons from me any matchup you want 1-2hour minimum
NeMu
Profile Joined September 2019
68 Posts
February 18 2020 11:20 GMT
#49
I unfriended Mr.Brain from discord because he doesn't seem to realize the seriousness of the situation and is acting silly to say the least.
No more free advice for any of your tournaments and if you don't change your rules the rest of the players who won't protest will atleast abuse it. Good luck playing another tourney with that rule Buddy and if you keep banning Legends like Eon and leaving guys like Casper unpunished its Icarus all over again. NO THX! Save your money I got my brains.
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-18 12:36:39
February 18 2020 11:29 GMT
#50
As community demands, I would like to follow up on this thread as Jeez Weekly master admin.

First of all, I do really find this situation a minor case. I believe that cerca 30 years players should be able to resolve such matters themselves, without the necessity to spend others (admins') time excessively. Moreover, I believe the top tier non-Korean player such as Eonzerg should have stayed calm, accepted a regame which was entirely within the frame rule at the time of the tournament. He should have easily defeated allegedly cheating but by far lower skill opponent such as Casper in a most humiliating manner and follow up to admins showing gaps/ flaws in the existing rulebook. That's mature, professional, skillful.

Second, I believe it is not permittable to object an admin, even if you believe the judgment is not correct. Humiliating an admin as a worst-case objection is not tolerated at all. Imagine sanctions in KeSPA or Football. Isn't disqualification/ Red card imminent?

Third, appealing to a flag is entirely morally flawed. I find it Russophobic, and on top of that, anyone Russophobic playing in Russian-hosted tournament - hypocritical + Show Spoiler +
double-speak
, which I personally do not respect at all.

Therefore, I've brought an entire team of Jeez Weekly admins to discuss this once again, instead of doing other things (indeed, 30+ years men have plenty of those). I assume, three tournaments ban for Eonzerg is excessive in the way that he lose his chances to claim Jackpot. Therefore, he can play. Yet, following Sec 1, 2 and 3 above, three tournaments ban is insufficient penalty.
For the next 10 tournaments, from Jeez #58 to Jeez #67 any prize Eonzerg may claim will be withheld to the benefit of Jackpot. Eonzerg will receive $0.

Although there was a two-minute regame rule, the community here helped to find proper pieces of evidence Casper to trying to manipulate rules to his own benefit. Therefore, Casper is at least equally guilty, and the same restriction will apply.
For the next 10 tournaments, from Jeez #58 to Jeez #67 any prize Casper may claim will be withheld to the benefit of Jackpot. Casper will receive $0.

Two minutes rule derived from the old ladder systems, such as Classic Battle.net, Game-i or PGT.
Nonetheless, it seems quite safe to decrease this time from two to one minute.

+ Show Spoiler +
P.S. Nemu and "onmYwaY", I urge you have balls to keep your words.
patyrykin.net
NeMu
Profile Joined September 2019
68 Posts
February 18 2020 11:48 GMT
#51
Thank you for your official statement Mr.Brain it was about time!
Since you have a p.s urging us to keep our word you obviously miss understood why we had it in the first place which was your silly rule, horrible reaction and if there is a 10 tourney punishment obviously its not something that the players can handle themselves.
Instead of aknowledging how poorly you and your staff dealt with the situation you have been giving attitude in public and in private!
May I also remind you if you don't want me personally to play in your tournaments then maybe you shouldn't send me a friend request on discord messsaging me about your tournaments reminding me to sign up because I'm a notable player.
And if anyone has balls buddy its me so save your balony!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7216 Posts
February 18 2020 12:03 GMT
#52
sad shit.
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1605 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-18 14:53:19
February 18 2020 14:52 GMT
#53
With actions like these, I can see why so many Non-Europeans were/are scared to fly to Russia if they qualified for
Corrupted Cup or RCG.


Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28916 Posts
February 18 2020 14:56 GMT
#54
That's dumb though - Rus_Brain is the most accommodating host I've ever experienced, anywhere. Incredibly helpful with visa and takes very good care of his guests..
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Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-18 15:26:28
February 18 2020 15:23 GMT
#55
On February 18 2020 23:52 EndingLife wrote:
With actions like these, I can see why so many Non-Europeans were/are scared to fly to Russia if they qualified for Corrupted Cup or RCG.
Inquire references from those who came.
patyrykin.net
iRk-AGge
Profile Joined October 2017
Sweden400 Posts
February 18 2020 15:34 GMT
#56
On February 18 2020 23:52 EndingLife wrote:
With actions like these, I can see why so many Non-Europeans were/are scared to fly to Russia if they qualified for
Corrupted Cup or RCG.




Everyone knows me and mr Rus_Brain has had our disagreements, he has his way of handling his tournaments and events, and sometimes I don't agree with everything.
BUT when it comes to being a professional host and and also a terrific guy in person, I have nothing but respect for mr Rus_Brain. <3

I only have good things to say about him (and Moscow) when it comes to being hosts for BW events. So I don't get why anyone would be worried about going to Russia (and I'm from Sweden).



Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland631 Posts
February 18 2020 15:39 GMT
#57
Only good things can happen if you visit Moscow or play in Rus_Brain's tournaments
NeMu
Profile Joined September 2019
68 Posts
February 18 2020 15:45 GMT
#58
On February 19 2020 00:39 Bonyth wrote:
Only good things can happen if you visit Moscow or play in Rus_Brain's tournaments

Especially if you are the best non Kor player and you win an easy 5k$.
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1605 Posts
February 18 2020 15:56 GMT
#59
I was simply talking about his biased actions and decision making in regards to tournament rules.
I'm sure he was a great host to everyone who attended. That still doesn't change the fact that a lot of good players were scared to try to qualify for his tournaments in Russia because of his recent tournament actions.
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine111 Posts
February 18 2020 15:57 GMT
#60
I remember there was a new rule introduced on iccup ladder back into the 2008-09 as the massive cases of protosses abusing proxy gates inside enemies' bases on 2 player maps. If it was scouted they just left and it was draw (not sure if it was under 1:30 or 2:00 minute mark). So according to new rule you could report them to be penalized for ladder points and a lose though you didnt get a win and points by yourself.
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