• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:48
CET 10:48
KST 18:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice0Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza1Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare
Brood War
General
It's March 3rd CasterMuse Youtube Recent recommended BW games Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh TvZ is the most complete match up
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues BWCL Season 64 Announcement The Casual Games of the Week Thread [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile Online Quake Live Config Editor Tool
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Just Watchers: Why Some Only…
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3387 users

[ASL8] Ro24 Group B - Page 4

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Burled_Sapele
Profile Joined June 2019
10 Posts
July 02 2019 20:19 GMT
#61
Enjoyable games (and casting) today; the games on Multiverse showed that there is quite the potential for unorthodox things to take place.

Glad to see Rush advance with solid games; not so sure about Larva in spite of some of the more poignant observations about his play (re: Jaeyun's post above). Am I mistaken in thinking that Soma and nOOB are the first two amateurs in ASL to win a game (both elimination matches, at that)? That would be noteworthy in itself and quite an achievement for both of them.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
July 02 2019 20:51 GMT
#62
Enjoyed the casting and insight from Artosis and Cadenzie
Mine gas, build tanks.
machinus
Profile Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
July 02 2019 23:18 GMT
#63
Zoe was great!!!
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
July 03 2019 00:16 GMT
#64
From the rumor i hear, ASL8 is Mong's last tourney before the military service.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 00:19:14
July 03 2019 00:18 GMT
#65
On July 03 2019 05:19 Burled_Sapele wrote:
Enjoyable games (and casting) today; the games on Multiverse showed that there is quite the potential for unorthodox things to take place.

Glad to see Rush advance with solid games; not so sure about Larva in spite of some of the more poignant observations about his play (re: Jaeyun's post above). Am I mistaken in thinking that Soma and nOOB are the first two amateurs in ASL to win a game (both elimination matches, at that)? That would be noteworthy in itself and quite an achievement for both of them.


nOOB is expro from WeMadeFOX
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2396 Posts
July 03 2019 01:08 GMT
#66
Just wanna echo Rush being awesome and enjoying Cadenzie's casting.
The original Bogus fan.
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
July 03 2019 02:35 GMT
#67
Larva is too rigid. He's not skilled with offensive play, only opportunistic, defensive and macro play.

This works just fine in ZvP, where you can indirectly dictate gameflow. Not so in TvZ, where T has point on game flow and risk-reward begins to skew towards offensive disruption.

Top Terran pros know Larva is too one-dimensional to threaten them. Ditto the best PvZers. In other words, Larva is one big execution test.

He plays with just enough refinement to serve as a gatekeeper but lacks the nuance to serve as a serious tournament threat.

+1 to Cadenzie/Artosis feedback. The patience with which you both casted was excellent. Cadenzie is still too quiet but she is a focused quiet, which helps the audience become immersed. Far far better than Rapid, that's for sure!
RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 03:40:45
July 03 2019 03:39 GMT
#68
Despite what the Youtube chat might suggest, I liked Cadenzie's cast. She probably has more knowledge of the progamer scene and current meta than anyone else at the moment. I do wish she showed more enthusiasm, which I understand can be difficult in front of thousands of viewers.

Also @KamMoye is it necessary to talk down Rapid?
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
sysen
Profile Joined June 2018
27 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 04:14:20
July 03 2019 04:13 GMT
#69
I Agree with what other people said about Cadenzie's casting. She definitely improved since last time, but she doesnt speak clear enaugh.... sometimes, i can barely even understand her (she's mumbling too much for my taste), when i have no problem at all with Tasteless.

But i guess if she keep improving, she can be a very great caster in the future.

ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
July 03 2019 04:23 GMT
#70
larva picked the wrong map to play that macro defensive game. like someone mentioned it has to be one of the maps where you take a easily defensible 4th from the 3rd. fine to play defensively and concede map control to terran but 4th should be feasibly achievable to be taken in the first place. i was watching from larva's pov and i thought he generally have the game well controlled defensively and even generating good counterplay at rush's 3rd. all up till the the point when the BCs showed up at his base, everything crumbles as the lack of 4th gas means he couldn't churn out enough units to deal with both the bcs/impending doomdrops and the frontline pressure.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 04:40:21
July 03 2019 04:37 GMT
#71
I dont know why Artosis (and a lot of other people) are so obsessed with the Rush guy. He has only made it out of ro24 once and has never impressed me with his play. Super overhyped imo, but maybe he's more impressive online.

Cadenzie has really good game knowledge. She just mumbles way too much and at first I thought it was someone who spoke English as a second language. Probably a confidence thing that will improve with time. I certainly feel she contributes more game discussion than Tasteless, who just makes jokes with Artosis and constantly complains about every race besides Protoss.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 05:59:35
July 03 2019 05:58 GMT
#72
I think Cadenzie's input is great. Sure, she still tends to mumble, but she has markedly improved on it. I have no trouble understanding every word. And the Zerg insight is really useful. Plus, I personally like her accent.

And Rush is definitely impressive online, plus he has had some pretty neat results lately. Winning the CMSL was no small feat, considering the competition. Action is a fairly decent ZvTer, Mini reached two consecutive offline finals and Soma has one of the best online ZvT records, particularly the best (I think) against Flash. This is not to say he's the favourite to win the tournament, but he's in good form.
WriterReV hwaiting!
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
July 03 2019 07:43 GMT
#73
On July 03 2019 12:39 RWLabs wrote:

Also @KamMoye is it necessary to talk down Rapid?

Necessary? About as necessary as for you to respond to it. Do I stand by it? Absolutely. Feelings hurt? You'll get over it.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8641 Posts
July 03 2019 11:48 GMT
#74
Watched all the games now. I really like how Multiverse plays out. I hope it's going to stay for longer.

Also +1 on the Cadenzie/Artosis comments, really enjoyed the cast!
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 17:19:44
July 03 2019 17:18 GMT
#75
It's pretty cool having Cadenzie's insight into zerg and the korean meta. Feels like the first time we get a bit more glimpse into the players and background behind the strats.
RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
July 03 2019 19:45 GMT
#76
On July 03 2019 16:43 KamMoye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 12:39 RWLabs wrote:

Also @KamMoye is it necessary to talk down Rapid?

Necessary? About as necessary as for you to respond to it. Do I stand by it? Absolutely. Feelings hurt? You'll get over it.

My feelings aren't hurt. I just dislike the Brood War culture of crapping on people enthusiastic about the game because their skills aren't quite there yet.
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
July 03 2019 21:09 GMT
#77
Not that what I have to add is anything new but would like to also throw my words of appreciation, great cast and interesting series overall today.

Would have hoped for more from Mong after his KCM performances. Will there be no ASL in the autumn / winter? Or is it just that his military is not exactly at end of year but maybe Sept / Oct or something?
The heart's eternal vow
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
July 04 2019 04:08 GMT
#78
On July 03 2019 03:25 Ideas wrote:
The cast was great, Cadenzie is definitely improving. I love Tasteless but it'd be cool if she was subbed in a little more often during Zerg-heavy days or something haha.

Between today's games and the End of the World series Larva's ZvP is looking really good. But his ZvT just doesn't seem very flexible. I've said it before but I think that he's a far weaker player on non-standard maps where he can't do the standard "take an empty main base for the 3rd, guard it with 2 lurkers, expand down the ramp for the 4th". It's annoying as hell to take a 4th on Sylphid in ZvT, and Larva didn't really seem to have a great plan for getting one or doing much with his super fast 3rd base.


Yeah Larva seems to play better on standard maps where he can use his experience and mechanics to gain an edge but falls apart abit on less standard ones. I remember him playing amazingly during the mech switch period because he knew what the Terrans were going to do and just macro-ed like a boss.

Hopefully he can put in more practice on ZvT, I would love to see him go deep in a tournament.
Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
July 04 2019 05:15 GMT
#79
Also stopped by to say the commentary was great (especially the tvzs). I thought she spoke pretty clearly. I think generally you don't want to force a way of speaking that isn't yours/natural but yeah it'd be nice to see it a bit louder/relatively more dynamic in time. I hope she sticks with it. I enjoyed the show a lot.
Team LiquidPoorUser
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
July 04 2019 15:45 GMT
#80
Maybe Cadenzie can join the casting archon to form a trio? Like a supporting caster role or something, the Koreans usually have 3 casters as well.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 216
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 28152
Britney 27168
Calm 20043
Bisu 2031
Hyuk 1142
firebathero 498
actioN 471
Mini 339
Pusan 286
Light 233
[ Show more ]
Leta 213
Soulkey 168
PianO 124
Dewaltoss 94
Mong 93
ToSsGirL 61
Backho 29
Free 28
sSak 26
Rush 24
910 24
JulyZerg 21
GoRush 16
sorry 14
SilentControl 10
Sacsri 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
Dota 2
XaKoH 521
NeuroSwarm86
League of Legends
JimRising 464
Counter-Strike
olofmeister934
shoxiejesuss716
allub102
Other Games
summit1g8460
Liquid`RaSZi801
ceh9581
WinterStarcraft236
crisheroes109
Mew2King69
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick694
Counter-Strike
PGL186
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 70
• LUISG 22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki15
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt1337
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
15h 12m
Replay Cast
23h 12m
Replay Cast
1d 14h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Ultimate Battle
3 days
Light vs ZerO
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
Classic vs Nicoract
herO vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs Gerald
Clem vs Krystianer
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
MaxPax vs Spirit
Bunny vs Rogue
Cure vs SHIN
Solar vs Zoun
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-02
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.