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On June 01 2019 02:43 Jaeyun wrote:
Rain plays like he has maphack in this matchup, it's crazy to watch. Even in the smallest of things like picking off scouting probes or dual microing his army and his own scout to keep them both alive. There is a bit of luck in some of these micro circumstances but when that luck presents an opportunity, Rain takes full advantage of it. You can tell he's a true student of the game - studies his timings inside and out, and really knows the maps he's playing on and converts it to his advantage.
Rain vs. Mini is going to be great. The pros often talk about the important of momentum in a series, especially in a long BO7. I can see Mini pulling off the upset if he can go on a roll winning G1/G2, then potentially riding that into a championship. But if the first couple games go in Rain's favor, really won't be surprised if this ends in an anticlimactic sweep. Rain has a strong mental game, whereas Mini's still developing his (and is certainly growing with his results in the past few tournaments).
Good luck to both!
i feel like it is hard to vote against rain in a pvp at this point, but i also thought stork was poised to smash through mini and that didn't go so well. rain in his current form should 4-0 or drop a fluke game here and there because mini is good and decisive enough to take those wins that snow was too afraid to. but will this same rain show up to the finals? who can say
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On May 31 2019 22:44 JoinTheRain wrote:
Rain is ridiculous, this level of execution should not be possible. Micro, macro, cheese, strategy, positioning - he does it all with such finesse. Amazing, simply stunning!
Mini better play his heart out or bring out the nastiest and most despicable cheeses in existence because Rain is really over 9000. And I don't even like Rain yet all the praises are well deserved and not enough. Awe, just awe at his abilities.
This. Whats scary about the guy is that he keep improving, and fast. Enjoyed the show. Mini has no chance imo.
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On June 01 2019 02:08 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2019 00:37 KamMoye wrote:
God we really need Bisu's name mentioned again? What a broken record. Hardly anyone mentions Bisu in these forums besides me even when he was active. But when discussing the best he has to be mentioned. It's be like having a Terran discussion and leaving out Nada because Flash is active.
Bisu is an inveterate choker who isnt the best anything anymore, his name isn't mentioned because he hasn't earned it. Fanboy less plz
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On June 01 2019 17:12 KamMoye wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2019 02:08 BisuDagger wrote:On June 01 2019 00:37 KamMoye wrote:
God we really need Bisu's name mentioned again? What a broken record. Hardly anyone mentions Bisu in these forums besides me even when he was active. But when discussing the best he has to be mentioned. It's be like having a Terran discussion and leaving out Nada because Flash is active. Bisu is an inveterate choker who isnt the best anything anymore, his name isn't mentioned because he hasn't earned it. Fanboy less plz
Let me guess. You're either a terran or zerg player, your worst matchup is against protoss and you avoid playing anyone that you think might be better than you.... 
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I'm actually really excited about a Rain vs. Mini finals.
Mini showed some great initiative and creativity when destroying Stork.
Rain completely dismantled Snow with his understanding of the matchup and with him being decisive. Rain is never afraid to take battles (even though I don't always agree with his taking of certain battles).
It might be possible we get an epic finals in the worst possible mirror matchup imo.
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On June 01 2019 18:02 nahyunjung wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2019 17:12 KamMoye wrote:On June 01 2019 02:08 BisuDagger wrote:On June 01 2019 00:37 KamMoye wrote:
God we really need Bisu's name mentioned again? What a broken record. Hardly anyone mentions Bisu in these forums besides me even when he was active. But when discussing the best he has to be mentioned. It's be like having a Terran discussion and leaving out Nada because Flash is active. Bisu is an inveterate choker who isnt the best anything anymore, his name isn't mentioned because he hasn't earned it. Fanboy less plz Let me guess. You're either a terran or zerg player, your worst matchup is against protoss and you avoid playing anyone that you think might be better than you....
Nah, Bisu is my favorite player and Protons is my favorite race. I'm not as easy to box as you thought. 
It's just that fanboy keeps mentioning him when he's literally not currently relevant at all. Everything with that guy is a referendum on Bisu.
But it's all but fact Bisu is a major choker and lacked true killer instinct.
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On June 03 2019 01:15 KamMoye wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2019 18:02 nahyunjung wrote:On June 01 2019 17:12 KamMoye wrote:On June 01 2019 02:08 BisuDagger wrote:On June 01 2019 00:37 KamMoye wrote:
God we really need Bisu's name mentioned again? What a broken record. Hardly anyone mentions Bisu in these forums besides me even when he was active. But when discussing the best he has to be mentioned. It's be like having a Terran discussion and leaving out Nada because Flash is active. Bisu is an inveterate choker who isnt the best anything anymore, his name isn't mentioned because he hasn't earned it. Fanboy less plz Let me guess. You're either a terran or zerg player, your worst matchup is against protoss and you avoid playing anyone that you think might be better than you.... Nah, Bisu is my favorite player and Protons is my favorite race. I'm not as easy to box as you thought. It's just that fanboy keeps mentioning him when he's literally not currently relevant at all. Everything with that guy is a referendum on Bisu. But it's all but fact Bisu is a major choker and lacked true killer instinct.
If you bring some fact based arguments to the table I am willing to go toe to toe with you. It's been a while since I engaged a troll and with Bisu returning I need to brush up on my knowledge. Until then I will leave this totally un-clutch Bisu moment for you.
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User has warned himself for use of this glorious gif
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Bisu literally admitted in an interview he lacked true killer instinct. Search the general forum, sometime within the past year.
He's the No. 1 BW player as far as glam goes. Sadly he was possibly the most talented, but most talented isn't the most skilled.
And now his pupil, Rain, has clearly surpassed him. Rain *does* have the killer instinct to match his shrewd mind.
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On June 03 2019 10:09 KamMoye wrote:
Bisu literally admitted in an interview he lacked true killer instinct. Search the general forum, sometime within the past year.
He's the No. 1 BW player as far as glam goes. Sadly he was possibly the most talented, but most talented isn't the most skilled.
And now his pupil, Rain, has clearly surpassed him. Rain *does* have the killer instinct to match his shrewd mind.
We're just talking about PvP right? Because in PvZ, Rain plays like drunk Bisu, at best.
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Have you forgotten Bisu got embarrassed by hero--a nice little player, sure, but c'mon? Or roro? Or shine? Obviously any great player with a long career will have some embarrassing losses, but all too often Bisu has the stage perfectly set to dominate, gets his specialty matchup... and gets trounced anyway.
Not even close losses, either. Embarrassing losses to players who are also-rans in comparison to Bisu.
How often did you see prime Jaedong losing to Shuttle, or something, in a pivotal position? (And I love Shuttle!)
The only Protoss more disappointing than Bisu is Best.
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This is starcraft, not chess. The best player wont win every game every time. Anyone who followed the scene in the last 15 years or so will agreed that Bisu is clearly the most skilled protoss who has ever played the game. And by the way, the most talented protoss of all time is probably Jangbi, in my opinion.
Anyway, I think bisu and Rain have similar styles, especially similar weakness. They both have a poor decision making for their level, often taking poor engagement for no particular reason; (bisu vs ssak game 4, asl 4, bisu vs flash game 2, asl 4 comes to mind), but in terms of pure skills, Bisu is miles ahead of Rain, and anyone else, including flash. Unfortunately, that weakness is a major one, and hard to rectify.
Imo, Flash has the best decision making of all time, and this is why he dominates both of Rain and Bisu, but has more difficulty against players like Hero or Stork who are weaker, but excellent at decision making.
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Who cares about most skilled Toss? That's a consolation prize. Bisu had more talent than anyone. He should be in the running for best SC player ever. He was a Proleague monster who continually disapoointed in BoX. Again, you're not really addressing anything I'm saying, just saying, "Meh, he's Bisu, he had a great career." Yeah, but that's goal post shifting.
Bisu is nowhere near Flash in terms of skill. Game sense is a skill. Decision-making is a skill.
I lost faith in Bisu after hero trounced him. Classic Bisu. Huge favorite. By far the most skilled player in a decrepit scene at the time. Still can't dominate the scene. In his best matchup. Hero is actually a player who has rather consistently had his number.
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