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[KSL3] SemiFinal B - Rain vs Snow - Page 2

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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
May 31 2019 11:23 GMT
#21
Rain really made it uninteresting.
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 31 2019 11:23 GMT
#22
On May 31 2019 20:21 Terra1 wrote:
I don't watch BW a lot but has storm been used many times in PvP? I know reavers are but it's been a while since I saw storms in PvP as well as Dark Archon for feedbacks. Grats to Rain.


HT+Cannon is a common follow up after going DTs nowadays. Dark Archon is not very common but I've seen Snow and Best do it a few times. It's definitely more popular than before though.
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 31 2019 11:26 GMT
#23
Beh, uninteresting games. With this and yesterday, it's been an anticlimactic end to a what was a great tournament. Let's hope the finals are better!
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
May 31 2019 11:28 GMT
#24
How can Rain micro and macro so well, it's insane
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
May 31 2019 11:29 GMT
#25
Rain is just stronger than Snow in PvP; Mini, on the other hand, is much closer and might even beat Rain: we will have a worthy final!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-31 11:35:09
May 31 2019 11:34 GMT
#26
I think Rain vs Mini will be close final. Rain is probably favoured but I think Mini prepares well for series and can win as long as he doesn't get tilted like in the past.
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
May 31 2019 11:36 GMT
#27
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
May 31 2019 12:00 GMT
#28
A not surprising 4-0. Rain is the best PvP-er right now, but I'm not sure why the casters refuse to acknowledge Bisu in the best PvPer of all time discussion. They haven't mentioned his name or record (pre and post kespa) once in that regard...
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xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
May 31 2019 13:04 GMT
#29
On May 31 2019 20:21 Terra1 wrote:
I don't watch BW a lot but has storm been used many times in PvP? I know reavers are but it's been a while since I saw storms in PvP as well as Dark Archon for feedbacks. Grats to Rain.

Any game that gets past the Goon+Reaver phase will have storm.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
May 31 2019 13:05 GMT
#30
^ I hope Blizzard let player who won 3 - 0 get 4 - 0 without play game 4. So 3 - 0 is impossible to comeback and it's really hurt as it is happens. Do you remember Jaedong 0 - 4 Last in the KSL season 1?
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JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria408 Posts
May 31 2019 13:44 GMT
#31
Rain is ridiculous, this level of execution should not be possible. Micro, macro, cheese, strategy, positioning - he does it all with such finesse. Amazing, simply stunning!
Mini better play his heart out or bring out the nastiest and most despicable cheeses in existence because Rain is really over 9000. And I don't even like Rain yet all the praises are well deserved and not enough. Awe, just awe at his abilities.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-31 14:36:51
May 31 2019 14:35 GMT
#32
On May 31 2019 21:00 BisuDagger wrote:
A not surprising 4-0. Rain is the best PvP-er right now, but I'm not sure why the casters refuse to acknowledge Bisu in the best PvPer of all time discussion. They haven't mentioned his name or record (pre and post kespa) once in that regard...


I think in general they don't really like to mention inactive players that often. Maybe I'm wrong but I think they're just trying to hype up the current tournament/players so they don't want to make it seem like there are way better players out there that just aren't competing (except for flash). But yeah totally agree that Bisu had the best PvP in the kespa era, although since he never went deep into tournaments after 2009 it wasn't really tested that much in high-stakes series play for the last 2-3 years. An argument could be made for Stork being the best PvPer in BoXs.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-31 15:12:30
May 31 2019 15:11 GMT
#33
On May 31 2019 23:35 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2019 21:00 BisuDagger wrote:
A not surprising 4-0. Rain is the best PvP-er right now, but I'm not sure why the casters refuse to acknowledge Bisu in the best PvPer of all time discussion. They haven't mentioned his name or record (pre and post kespa) once in that regard...


I think in general they don't really like to mention inactive players that often. Maybe I'm wrong but I think they're just trying to hype up the current tournament/players so they don't want to make it seem like there are way better players out there that just aren't competing (except for flash). But yeah totally agree that Bisu had the best PvP in the kespa era, although since he never went deep into tournaments after 2009 it wasn't really tested that much in high-stakes series play for the last 2-3 years. An argument could be made for Stork being the best PvPer in BoXs.

Stork's prime does make for a good argument. His claim is in the fact that he could always go toe to toe with the top Protoss players. However, (P)Bisu did win 2 MSLs, 1 GomTV Classic, and 1 Korean WCG all in a PvP finals including two finals victories over Stork which holds the argument for Bisu as best at BoX also.
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KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
May 31 2019 15:37 GMT
#34
God we really need Bisu's name mentioned again? What a broken record.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
May 31 2019 17:08 GMT
#35
On June 01 2019 00:37 KamMoye wrote:
God we really need Bisu's name mentioned again? What a broken record.

Hardly anyone mentions Bisu in these forums besides me even when he was active. But when discussing the best he has to be mentioned. It's be like having a Terran discussion and leaving out Nada because Flash is active.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 31 2019 17:30 GMT
#36
rain's pvp is so good wow. he made snow look scared and baddd
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JackyVSO
Profile Joined July 2018
Denmark85 Posts
May 31 2019 17:31 GMT
#37
I agree, it's time we recognize that this match was in the 8th known Starcraft matchup, RvP, and that R is seriously favored in it.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 31 2019 17:36 GMT
#38
usually he wins by just mind-reading and having the best build always but this time he had the worse end of the builds a lot of the time and just won easily anyway.
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Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States337 Posts
May 31 2019 17:42 GMT
#39
On May 31 2019 21:00 BisuDagger wrote:
A not surprising 4-0. Rain is the best PvP-er right now, but I'm not sure why the casters refuse to acknowledge Bisu in the best PvPer of all time discussion. They haven't mentioned his name or record (pre and post kespa) once in that regard...


because bisu isnt here, and someone else has stole his seat until he returns
Jaeyun
Profile Joined June 2017
United States202 Posts
May 31 2019 17:43 GMT
#40
Rain plays like he has maphack in this matchup, it's crazy to watch. Even in the smallest of things like picking off scouting probes or dual microing his army and his own scout to keep them both alive. There is a bit of luck in some of these micro circumstances but when that luck presents an opportunity, Rain takes full advantage of it. You can tell he's a true student of the game - studies his timings inside and out, and really knows the maps he's playing on and converts it to his advantage.

Rain vs. Mini is going to be great. The pros often talk about the important of momentum in a series, especially in a long BO7. I can see Mini pulling off the upset if he can go on a roll winning G1/G2, then potentially riding that into a championship. But if the first couple games go in Rain's favor, really won't be surprised if this ends in an anticlimactic sweep. Rain has a strong mental game, whereas Mini's still developing his (and is certainly growing with his results in the past few tournaments).

Good luck to both!
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