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[KSL3] Ro8 Day 2 - Soulkey vs Snow/Rain vs Sharp - Page 4

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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2038 Posts
May 24 2019 12:39 GMT
#61
On May 24 2019 21:37 Turbovolver wrote:
Hahahahaha this guy really doesn't trust his standard play.

Sending the probes was neat.


I know right? The community-titled "Strongest Protoss" needs tricks vs Sharp
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
May 24 2019 12:39 GMT
#62
maybe rain is cheesy but feels like overconfidence strikes sharp again
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-24 12:44:33
May 24 2019 12:40 GMT
#63
I'll never respect Rain like i respected Bisu. I hope Sharp punishes him for his dishonesty.

On May 24 2019 21:39 ggsimida wrote:
maybe rain is cheesy but feels like overconfidence strikes sharp again


was he overconfident? The only way I could have seen him ending that was sending most of his SCVs to ensure the proxy gate couldn't get up. He'd still be behind regardless, even if he killed the gateway. He scouted it perfectly, and he still lost.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-24 12:48:30
May 24 2019 12:47 GMT
#64
On May 24 2019 21:40 Wonk wrote:
I'll never respect Rain like i respected Bisu. I hope Sharp punishes him for his dishonesty.

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 21:39 ggsimida wrote:
maybe rain is cheesy but feels like overconfidence strikes sharp again


was he overconfident? The only way I could have seen him ending that was sending most of his SCVs to ensure the proxy gate couldn't get up. He scouted it perfectly, and he still lost.


he can pull a bunch ofscv to help kill the zeal/s when the going gets tough, even flash does that if i recall old games of his against proxy gate pressure. like i feel sharp still has this ladder mentality where he could solely rely on rine micro to stall the zeal until fact, except hes not playing against an amateur this time round. i feel this sort of notion in many of other sharps game as well (where he got cocky and just end up killing himself instead, like example 1 game vs modesty where he pushed too early and give up marines cheaply to mutas, when staying to the turrets would be better to build up army and force errors out of modesty before guardian push instead)
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
May 24 2019 12:52 GMT
#65
pvp finals inc
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26971 Posts
May 24 2019 12:53 GMT
#66
Come on, at least let me use ‘that was a really sharp timing he hit there’ at least once this series
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Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
May 24 2019 12:54 GMT
#67
On May 24 2019 21:39 razorsuKe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 21:37 Turbovolver wrote:
Hahahahaha this guy really doesn't trust his standard play.

Sending the probes was neat.


I know right? The community-titled "Strongest Protoss" needs tricks vs Sharp

In my opinion Rain is doing these cheeses because terrans got so greedy that he is punishing them by doing this. He is amazing in a long macro game, he is not afraid of that, but if terran goes 14cc then he is behind...

I hate cheeses but I understand why he is doing it (which is 100% not because he doesn't trust his standard play).
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 24 2019 12:55 GMT
#68
On May 24 2019 21:47 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 21:40 Wonk wrote:
I'll never respect Rain like i respected Bisu. I hope Sharp punishes him for his dishonesty.

On May 24 2019 21:39 ggsimida wrote:
maybe rain is cheesy but feels like overconfidence strikes sharp again


was he overconfident? The only way I could have seen him ending that was sending most of his SCVs to ensure the proxy gate couldn't get up. He scouted it perfectly, and he still lost.


he can pull a bunch ofscv to help kill the zeal/s when the going gets tough, even flash does that if i recall old games of his against proxy gate pressure. like i feel sharp still has this ladder mentality where he could solely rely on rine micro to stall the zeal until fact, except hes not playing against an amateur this time round. i feel this sort of notion in many of other sharps game as well (where he got cocky and just end up killing himself instead, like example 1 game vs modesty where he pushed too early and give up marines cheaply to mutas, when staying to the turrets would be better to build up army and force errors out of modesty before guardian push instead)


And while he's doing that, he's losing SCVs and missing mining while Rain is mining to his hearts content back at his base and going fine. Whatever he does, he's crippling his economy to stay alive. He's honestly better off praying for good marine macro in the hope he can barely hold and get into a normal game.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2413 Posts
May 24 2019 12:55 GMT
#69
14cc is no more common now than it's ever been.
The original Bogus fan.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
May 24 2019 12:57 GMT
#70
On May 24 2019 21:55 Wonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 21:47 ggsimida wrote:
On May 24 2019 21:40 Wonk wrote:
I'll never respect Rain like i respected Bisu. I hope Sharp punishes him for his dishonesty.

On May 24 2019 21:39 ggsimida wrote:
maybe rain is cheesy but feels like overconfidence strikes sharp again


was he overconfident? The only way I could have seen him ending that was sending most of his SCVs to ensure the proxy gate couldn't get up. He scouted it perfectly, and he still lost.


he can pull a bunch ofscv to help kill the zeal/s when the going gets tough, even flash does that if i recall old games of his against proxy gate pressure. like i feel sharp still has this ladder mentality where he could solely rely on rine micro to stall the zeal until fact, except hes not playing against an amateur this time round. i feel this sort of notion in many of other sharps game as well (where he got cocky and just end up killing himself instead, like example 1 game vs modesty where he pushed too early and give up marines cheaply to mutas, when staying to the turrets would be better to build up army and force errors out of modesty before guardian push instead)


And while he's doing that, he's losing SCVs and missing mining while Rain is mining to his hearts content back at his base and going fine. Whatever he does, he's crippling his economy to stay alive. He's honestly better off praying for good marine macro in the hope he can barely hold and get into a normal game.


holding out with maybe minor loss (toss is wasting mineral cranking out zeal, its not free) vs the outcome u see where he just straight up died? flash took the former and he won.
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
May 24 2019 13:01 GMT
#71
On May 24 2019 21:55 Turbovolver wrote:
14cc is no more common now than it's ever been.

It was just an example, there are other kinds of greed. But nevermind. Main thing is that I'm sure he is confident in his standard play. You will see.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-24 13:03:31
May 24 2019 13:02 GMT
#72
Okay the average Flash fan is drooling, having a nervous breakdown and spit bubbles on the side of his mouth, Tastosis?

I guess it's kinda meant to be funny, but i think it's not and you're way overboard. Btw im a P player and no Flash fan in particular..
Broodwar for life!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26971 Posts
May 24 2019 13:04 GMT
#73
I enjoyed it personally
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
May 24 2019 13:06 GMT
#74
On May 24 2019 22:04 Wombat_NI wrote:
I enjoyed it personally


Sure, everbody has a different sense of humor. But wouldn't you agree that many Fans of Lee Young Ho might find it offensive?
Broodwar for life!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26971 Posts
May 24 2019 13:09 GMT
#75
Well no I felt he was saying it about the rabid ones who bring up Flash whenever there’s any BW game on and say things like he’d win easily if only he was playing etc etc.

Those kind of folks are super disrespectful to the level of other players so I don’t really care if they’re offended
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2413 Posts
May 24 2019 13:10 GMT
#76
Sharp way down, trying to harass when he really needed to be focus on his efforts to secure third.
The original Bogus fan.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2413 Posts
May 24 2019 13:10 GMT
#77
Nice of Rain to donate some units and make it a fairer fight though.
The original Bogus fan.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2413 Posts
May 24 2019 13:12 GMT
#78
On May 24 2019 22:02 Cele wrote:
Okay the average Flash fan is drooling, having a nervous breakdown and spit bubbles on the side of his mouth, Tastosis?

I guess it's kinda meant to be funny, but i think it's not and you're way overboard. Btw im a P player and no Flash fan in particular..

Nobody said that was the average Flash fan, though. "People who believe Flash can do no wrong are the worst" makes no comment about what is average for a Flash fan.
The original Bogus fan.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
May 24 2019 13:15 GMT
#79
On May 24 2019 22:09 Wombat_NI wrote:
Well no I felt he was saying it about the rabid ones who bring up Flash whenever there’s any BW game on and say things like he’d win easily if only he was playing etc etc.

Those kind of folks are super disrespectful to the level of other players so I don’t really care if they’re offended


Yeah? I might have missed that context. Okay then.
Broodwar for life!
Terra1
Profile Joined June 2018
Philippines312 Posts
May 24 2019 13:16 GMT
#80
Wow nice recalls
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