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On May 31 2007 04:46 Carnac wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:40 EnDeR_ wrote:
I don't mind bisu winning, but this was very unfair for light.
Oh well, back to studying now. I disagree. I personally downloaded Desperado three weeks ago (just checked the date on my system) and it is the 1.01 version where you cannot build any turrets in the center, so I really don't see how you can put any blame on anyone but Light (or maybe his coach/someone else responsible within his team). Unfair he practiced on a map that has been outdated for 3 weeks (or maybe even more, since it may have been up there already a bit before I downloaded it)?
Hmmm, either way, Light got screwed and we got cheated out of a very nice match up  . I was personally looking forward for this one, tvt is really not my thing.
You'd think that in 3 weeks someone from the team would've at least noticed that there was an updated map version, poor guy.
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On May 31 2007 04:45 Organ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:42 rain~ wrote:On May 31 2007 04:40 Organ wrote:
So many terrans in the leagues. Guys you must be happy that their number decreased. Or you enjoy watching one TvT after another? it has something to do with fair chances and than the better player will win Do you call PvT @ Arkanoid or Desert Fox game with fair chances? Come on. So many P-killing and Z-killing maps. And I am really happy when terran is out.
i think you are not getting what i wanted to say. he just practised a different version where his gameplay was more suitable and your cases are different from this incident.
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On May 31 2007 04:49 Organ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:48 yubee wrote:On May 31 2007 04:47 Organ wrote:Wtf . I've become a dragoon. Is there any way to be zealot forever? yes, just ask a mod How can I do it?
Send a PM to meat.
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Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
On May 31 2007 04:49 Organ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:48 yubee wrote:On May 31 2007 04:47 Organ wrote:Wtf . I've become a dragoon. Is there any way to be zealot forever? yes, just ask a mod How can I do it?
Done.
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Russian Federation987 Posts
On May 31 2007 04:55 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:49 Organ wrote:On May 31 2007 04:48 yubee wrote:On May 31 2007 04:47 Organ wrote:Wtf . I've become a dragoon. Is there any way to be zealot forever? yes, just ask a mod How can I do it? Done.
Thanks  .
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Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
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yakii
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Sucks for light...tomorrow vs oov on monghwan he'll be like "hu? ppp...this is not RoV wtf?"
With oov's TvT today im sure he will show good results tomorrow.
Next two days in general will be cool. Every match has at least one champion :D
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Nothing wrong with it.
Same teams, so Bisu practiced on the same map too
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On May 31 2007 04:46 Carnac wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:40 EnDeR_ wrote:
I don't mind bisu winning, but this was very unfair for light.
Oh well, back to studying now. I disagree. I personally downloaded Desperado three weeks ago (just checked the date on my system) and it is the 1.01 version where you cannot build any turrets in the center, so I really don't see how you can put any blame on anyone but Light (or maybe his coach/someone else responsible within his team). Unfair he practiced on a map that has been outdated for 3 weeks (or maybe even more, since it may have been up there already a bit before I downloaded it)?
I dunno who is responsible for giving the players the maps nowadays but if the MSL had given this map to him, or even his coach, how can you blame him? I doubt the players have to take care of finding maps themselves, so SOMEONE gave it to him and this someone fucked up big time.
So yeah I do find it really unfair for Light. His job is to practice his ass off and perform, not to find out which maps he is playing at. That's someone elses job and you can't go around checking other peoples' work all the time.
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On May 31 2007 05:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:46 Carnac wrote:On May 31 2007 04:40 EnDeR_ wrote:
I don't mind bisu winning, but this was very unfair for light.
Oh well, back to studying now. I disagree. I personally downloaded Desperado three weeks ago (just checked the date on my system) and it is the 1.01 version where you cannot build any turrets in the center, so I really don't see how you can put any blame on anyone but Light (or maybe his coach/someone else responsible within his team). Unfair he practiced on a map that has been outdated for 3 weeks (or maybe even more, since it may have been up there already a bit before I downloaded it)? I dunno who is responsible for giving the players the maps nowadays but if the MSL had given this map to him, or even his coach, how can you blame him? I doubt the players have to take care of finding maps themselves, so SOMEONE gave it to him and this someone fucked up big time. perhaps FOUL PLAY!?
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On May 31 2007 04:52 EnDeR_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:46 Carnac wrote:On May 31 2007 04:40 EnDeR_ wrote:
I don't mind bisu winning, but this was very unfair for light.
Oh well, back to studying now. I disagree. I personally downloaded Desperado three weeks ago (just checked the date on my system) and it is the 1.01 version where you cannot build any turrets in the center, so I really don't see how you can put any blame on anyone but Light (or maybe his coach/someone else responsible within his team). Unfair he practiced on a map that has been outdated for 3 weeks (or maybe even more, since it may have been up there already a bit before I downloaded it)? Hmmm, either way, Light got screwed and we got cheated out of a very nice match up . I was personally looking forward for this one, tvt is really not my thing. You'd think that in 3 weeks someone from the team would've at least noticed that there was an updated map version, poor guy. I can't find the 1.00 version right now, only an old 0.60 version.
I just checked 0.60 and 1.01 in single player:
1.01: you can build 4 (2 times 2) turrets pretty close to the center
0.60: same as 1.01 plus you can build 4 turrets at the very border of the center (one in each direction) and 1 row of 3 between each of the mineral only expansions
meh, that doesnt really help
does anyone, who unlike me, does NOT delete his vods still have the vod of the game Light vs Midas @ Desperato (Round of 32 Group F), because that was the first game that was played on Desperado this season. Would be interesting to see the map version...
I tried on youtube, but the quality is too bad to read it
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On May 31 2007 04:55 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:49 Organ wrote:On May 31 2007 04:48 yubee wrote:On May 31 2007 04:47 Organ wrote:Wtf . I've become a dragoon. Is there any way to be zealot forever? yes, just ask a mod How can I do it? Done.
hmm, im a marine forever! is there anyway it can be changed back to the normal, default icons? ^^
PLEASSEE!
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
Places where you can build turrets on the old version (I'm only showing the ones on the bottom half of the map, since the map is horizontally symetrical)
2 relatively close to the center
1 on each border of the center
3 between the mineral only expansions
only the ones from the first picture can also be built in the 1.01 version
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
Just downloaded the VOD of today and Light wasn't anywhere close to building one of the turrets form the 3-turret-row and a turret at the border wouldnt have mattered, so IMHO his complaint is not justified.
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can someone link me to the new versions of desperado/loki?
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Braavos36390 Posts
On May 31 2007 05:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2007 04:46 Carnac wrote:On May 31 2007 04:40 EnDeR_ wrote:
I don't mind bisu winning, but this was very unfair for light.
Oh well, back to studying now. I disagree. I personally downloaded Desperado three weeks ago (just checked the date on my system) and it is the 1.01 version where you cannot build any turrets in the center, so I really don't see how you can put any blame on anyone but Light (or maybe his coach/someone else responsible within his team). Unfair he practiced on a map that has been outdated for 3 weeks (or maybe even more, since it may have been up there already a bit before I downloaded it)? I dunno who is responsible for giving the players the maps nowadays but if the MSL had given this map to him, or even his coach, how can you blame him? I doubt the players have to take care of finding maps themselves, so SOMEONE gave it to him and this someone fucked up big time. So yeah I do find it really unfair for Light. His job is to practice his ass off and perform, not to find out which maps he is playing at. That's someone elses job and you can't go around checking other peoples' work all the time.
its MBCgame's problem. they should've made sure he had the right map. if they gave him 1.01 and he created the practice games on 1.00, then its Light's fault, but if he never received 1.01 then it's his coach and MBC HERO's fault.
its especially stupid because you'd expect MBCgame HERO to be the LAST team to have the wrong maps, as MBC is responsible for the MSL.
it's like the OGN team not getting the right version of the OSL maps, or savior not getting the right superfight map from CJ
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