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Turbovolver
Australia2396 Posts
On December 06 2018 21:38 ggsimida wrote: if you treat educated discourse as "talking down to" then thats just a pity I mean you're just wrong, your whole logic is that it "delays" the defense, but 1 vulture with the response delayed still gets less kills than 3 vultures. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50627 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2396 Posts
On December 06 2018 21:42 IshinShishi wrote: gotta feel happy for sharp, his dedication paid off. So happy  | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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chaosTheory_14cc
Canada1270 Posts
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reminisce12
Australia318 Posts
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2396 Posts
On December 06 2018 21:44 Dangermousecatdog wrote: It helps not to go mad and write "this other guy tries to talk down to me" over something so trivial. Players don't have perfect info, and Sharp did what he thought was the best thing to do at the time. If it worked, we all would be calling him a genius. I love Sharp's play, I just thought that one thing was a bad decision. It's likely he saw the reaver (I think it was already out at the start of the attack, or certainly right after), so he knows there's no observers, and thought the mines would do more. I'm not calling him bad for it by any stretch. | ||
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ggsimida
1148 Posts
On December 06 2018 21:41 Turbovolver wrote: I mean you're just wrong, your whole logic is that it "delays" the defense, but 1 vulture with the response delayed still gets less kills than 3 vultures. directly rushing 3 vults to opponents probes work in lower levels because opponent isn't paying attention at all so its better to rush there simple. here you need to delay goons with mines or the goons will reach the vults faster anyway. not to mention poor handling of mines can force errors and may even end in disastrous result for protoss. im sure sharp is aaware of this and therefore made the decision to lay mines. if you think hes totally wrong you should tell sharp and every other terran pro, not me. not like he cares now, | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2396 Posts
Anyways, that's my last post on the topic, you're not pleasant to talk to. | ||
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ggsimida
1148 Posts
On December 06 2018 21:54 Turbovolver wrote: He killed 1 probe. Are you arguing that he would've killed less than 1 probe with rushing the 3 vultures directly to the mineral line? Anyways, that's my last post on the topic, you're not pleasant to talk to. if he did not put mines, yes he can kill a couple more before the goons come and he has to run away. oh yeah a few more probes very nice. with mines, the goons can be delayed with a variance depending on players control and luck. best result is that rain completely mishandles the mines, all the goons die and the vults get to snipe probes happily for...10s? its like a gamble, a nice risk move to leverage the situation i never insult or look down at you, you just simply refuse to entertain anyone thoughts other than yours. if thats your prerogative then i have nothing more to add. have a good day regardless. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13298 Posts
That HT shuttle snipe in game 7 was really crucial just before his big push. He was able to take the middle from there and Rain couldn’t do much. Hope SK wins. Not a huge TvT fan. | ||
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ggsimida
1148 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2396 Posts
On December 06 2018 22:01 RowdierBob wrote: Glad for Sharp. That HT shuttle snipe in game 7 was really crucial just before his big push. He was able to take the middle from there and Rain couldn’t do much. Hope SK wins. Not a huge TvT fan. I would be happy with a TvT finals just because I like both Sharp and Last :D | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1713 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On December 06 2018 22:41 IshinShishi wrote: TvT is the best of all mirrors, both in bw and sc2, but ZvZ can be quite entertaining sometimes. TvT is better in BW, not so much in Sc2 these days. I'm sorry for Rain, he just can't reach KSL finals, whereas I am not a Sharp fan. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On December 06 2018 22:00 ggsimida wrote: if he did not put mines, yes he can kill a couple more before the goons come and he has to run away. oh yeah a few more probes very nice. with mines, the goons can be delayed with a variance depending on players control and luck. best result is that rain completely mishandles the mines, all the goons die and the vults get to snipe probes happily for...10s? its like a gamble, a nice risk move to leverage the situation i never insult or look down at you, you just simply refuse to entertain anyone thoughts other than yours. if thats your prerogative then i have nothing more to add. have a good day regardless. You're fighting against results oriented thinking. Sharp did not know there were goons close to the ramp and ready to defend, he went for the optimal play you described, end of the story. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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