On October 28 2018 15:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
jaeyun knows his stuff
jaeyun knows his stuff
Very interesting, is that build map specific or could Effort do it again?
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On October 28 2018 15:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: Show nested quote + On October 28 2018 15:47 Musicus wrote: Can someone explain a bit. Was that a bo loss or did Flash fuck up? Could better vulture micro save him? Show nested quote + [12:15 PM] Jaeyun: larva/brittany said that flash’s most hated build against 111 is efforts build bc even if you know lings are coming, there’s so many and the timing of the speed is hard to deal w jaeyun knows his stuff Very interesting, is that build map specific or could Effort do it again? | ||
gDPhantom
New Zealand162 Posts
On October 28 2018 15:51 N.geNuity wrote: the 1-1-1 has been getting vulture before machine shop right? if we're going to call every 1 factory 1 starport build a 1-1-1 i would just spam everything to be "the fantasy build" even though that was an order that no one uses anymore either a vulture opening is not anything new, it is the transitions and decision making off the vulture. but flash going machine shop first into speed and not going into starport immediately on factory completion (was starport after cc?) is not the 1-1-1 The original 1/1/1 was an early vulture then straight into a wraith to scout then from there it depends on what you scout. This build he's doing is a bit of a reaction to recent meta and his scouting. He scouted the ridiculously early lair so knew it was 2 base muta, he chose to get vulture speed to fight any ling attacks, then he pulled off gas to pump his econ and fund mass turret/barracks. 1/1/1 is like the first couple of rungs of a ladder and then it branches off depending on scouting and what kind of game you wanna play. | ||
JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On October 28 2018 15:49 BLinD-RawR wrote: Show nested quote + On October 28 2018 15:47 Musicus wrote: Can someone explain a bit. Was that a bo loss or did Flash fuck up? Could better vulture micro save him? Show nested quote + [12:15 PM] Jaeyun: larva/brittany said that flash’s most hated build against 111 is efforts build bc even if you know lings are coming, there’s so many and the timing of the speed is hard to deal w jaeyun knows his stuff Thanks, please do post more analysis if possible ![]() | ||
Mirabel_
United States1768 Posts
bits of translation on english stream: "i'm impressed by effort's momentum, it's victory of an unprecedented manner for the first game versus flash" "if it goes smoothly it might be 3-0 for effort" "your opponent is a great player, but don't be nervous. as long as you play as you prepared, you can win" best in the audience "i thought flash was going to win no matter what! i was watching his facial expressions..." "i think he's going to do a reverse sweep" "i hope he is the first player to win four starleague championships" | ||
razorsuKe
Canada1999 Posts
It's been red for Z and blue for T this whole time hasn't it? Well at least in KSL | ||
N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
On October 28 2018 15:51 johanes wrote: Show nested quote + On October 28 2018 15:50 Dante08 wrote: On October 28 2018 15:48 johanes wrote: On October 28 2018 15:47 Musicus wrote: Can someone explain a bit. Was that a bo loss or did Flash fuck up? Could better vulture micro save him? BO loss, cant micro vs speed lings without speed Man did you miss the last few months of TvZ? How is that a BO loss please stop spreading misinformation. Its clear BO loss, efforts build him gave him speed lings against slow vultures. maybe shouldn't lose scv to slow lings (missed speed upgrade), he saw the lair start on pool finishing so he knew it was super quick gas (and could be early ling speed with the lair), maybe could have built cc to float over given he saw low eco 2 hatch and can always put a couple scvs at your choke i agree that many zergs are afraid to go punish a terran, but flash's biggest weakness has always been to when people just man up versus him (terran in general). flash gets too cute for himself (used to go 14 cc like every game, used to do a lot of 1 fact into 3 cc until jangbi slapped him down, etc) | ||
prosatan
Romania7711 Posts
On October 28 2018 15:50 gDPhantom wrote: Show nested quote + On October 28 2018 15:47 prosatan wrote: maybe flash wanted a 2 port wraith , if u guys say it wasn't 1-1-1 he was not going 2 port wraith... he pulled off gas and was going a fast CC. aaa , i see thank you ! | ||
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prosatan
Romania7711 Posts
Effort - yellow zerg This is good information guys ! | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On October 28 2018 15:57 Just_a_Moth wrote: Flash is shook, dropped the lid. After seeing this, easy 3-0 for Effort predicted now lol | ||
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prosatan
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flash with a fast scout | ||
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JieXian
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On October 28 2018 15:57 Just_a_Moth wrote: Flash is shook, dropped the lid. 9-4 map for effort! Flash is quivering! | ||
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prosatan
Romania7711 Posts
spire for effort 2 rax for flash effort has a sunken | ||
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