EPTLoved the games tonight. Flash should be able to beat shuttle and have an awesome series against either EffOrt or Last.
[ASL6] Ro8 Flash vs Mini - Page 7
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NoS-Craig
Australia3151 Posts
Loved the games tonight. Flash should be able to beat shuttle and have an awesome series against either EffOrt or Last. | ||
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Bonyth
Poland610 Posts
Another pimpest play from Mini there, he dropped the reaver for a split of second, so the tank actually shot once and the reaver didn't take the damage. That was super good. But yeah, then the bug happened. | ||
TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
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thezanursic
5500 Posts
On October 16 2018 20:19 geod wrote: This is so awful to watch. Flash is killing Broodwar  KSL doesn't have Flash and in hindsight I think that might actually be a good thing, building up players so that they can eventually beat Flash in ASL | ||
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prosatan
Romania8974 Posts
On October 16 2018 20:17 De4ngus wrote: the entire map will start covered in creep and pylons Best comment !!! | ||
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prosatan
Romania8974 Posts
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Miragee
8685 Posts
With the result that Flash will still win but we see no other Terran other than him. | ||
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Yanokabo
268 Posts
He was not prepared. But can anyone be prepared to play vs the goat? “Doing what I practiced and I should be fine” turned into typical toss brainjam of 12 nex carrier dt allins. The only bright spot was the reaver goon push on cb. Toss need to get aggressive early with flash if they let him get comfortable it’s just impossible to stop him. | ||
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TornadoSteve
1117 Posts
 Well he did good in the wild card, didn't he [: will watch effort vs last though | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13430 Posts
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Terra1
Philippines312 Posts
I hope we get to see Last vs Flash because I want Flash to win this time vs Last (referring to his loss vs Last in ASL 1) What are the odds of FlaSh winning this time vs Last? Has FlaSh defeated Last a lot after that loss? | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51103 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3151 Posts
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Freakling
Germany1534 Posts
On October 16 2018 20:24 Bonyth wrote: By the way guys, not sure if you noticed but all that kept Mini from winning the game on Circuit Breakers was reaver bug. It wanted to give the tank on the ramp a melee shot, rather than a normal one. Another pimpest play from Mini there, he dropped the reaver for a split of second, so the tank actually shot once and the reaver didn't take the damage. That was super good. But yeah, then the bug happened. This is more or less accurate. There is a region constellation at that ramp that reduces effective Reaver range to about 5 (instead of 8) for units placed as they were in that game. Would he have moved the Reaver down only a few pixels (towards the Supply Depot), it would have fired at the tank. | ||
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Yanokabo
268 Posts
On October 16 2018 20:38 Terra1 wrote: Flash is just too strong in a lot of games, this one included. And Mini played like he was an amateur. I hope we get to see Last vs Flash because I want Flash to win this time vs Last (referring to his loss vs Last in ASL 1) What are the odds of FlaSh winning this time vs Last? Has FlaSh defeated Last a lot after that loss? I think flash verus shuttle will help us all know the answer to that question. Now is the time in the tournament where all the boys have been eliminated and only the men remain. Shuttle has a solid 60lb bodyweight advantage on mini and action is rather small as well, I have a theory that a lot of the reason flash wins often is his great physical fitness of his body. Shuttle is a heavyweight as far as pro gamers go so he could present a challenge to flash. Last isn’t a large guy but he’s quite cerebral and he’s been on top of his game recently. I’d say 75-25 odds for flash in a last / flash finals card. | ||
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RxMidnight
United States251 Posts
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rand0MPrecisi0n
313 Posts
On October 16 2018 20:51 Freakling wrote: This is more or less accurate. There is a region constellation at that ramp that reduces effective Reaver range to about 5 (instead of 8) for units placed as they were in that game. Would he have moved the Reaver down only a few pixels (towards the Supply Depot), it would have fired at the tank. How would one go about analysing this type of stuff? Thanks! | ||
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kogeT
Poland2042 Posts
On October 16 2018 20:31 Yanokabo wrote: Embarrassing for mini dude looks like he was blindfolded kicked from a van in the middle of seoul stumbled into afreecatv studios and told he had to play in front of a crowd. He was not prepared. But can anyone be prepared to play vs the goat? “Doing what I practiced and I should be fine” turned into typical toss brainjam of 12 nex carrier dt allins. The only bright spot was the reaver goon push on cb. Toss need to get aggressive early with flash if they let him get comfortable it’s just impossible to stop him. That or you actually try to play a long game as best / rain does and win quite a few if executed properly.. Flash always had a reputation of the best defensive player out there, so trying to catch him his pants down is probably the worst strategy to choose from. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
Game 2 had a nice frontal reaver assault, but then he also loses the two reavers for a goliath later on. He had an obs, he saw the tanks, but still inched his reavers forward. I don't know if he didn't hold, or if it was purposeful on his part. That was the moment the game swung back in Flash's favour imo, and it seems like Flash thought the same as well. He did have a nice idea to try and get the goliaths when Flash pushed, but on close spawns, is there even enough time to get a large carrier count with 8 interceptors each? For me, it feels like this would've been wiser cross spawn. Game 3 was such dodgy decision making imo, especially towards the end of the game. He knew Flash's army was close, then he pulled his carriers all the way to the back, and allowed Flash to siege his main. Given, the game was over by then. He expands towards the terran, instead of away and doesn't try to take over the high ground either. These games were a huge letdown. It felt obvious to me that Mini did not want to go into a long macro game. I can understand it, but from my perspective, he needs to play his own style which Flash has trouble with, and force Flash to make mistakes or at least, face unorthodox strategies (Anyone remember Snow's reavers on Gladiator last ASL?). On top of that, his control was pretty bad. Maybe he was just nervous, but these games were not of his caliber. Also, I'm not a big fan of this reaver/carrier style. I haven't really crunched the numbers, but can you sustain that kind of production off 2 gas when you are also dumping money into goons too? | ||
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