EPT[KSL] Ro8 Day 1
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BLinD-RawR
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NoS-Craig
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sM.Zik
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Jaedong 3-1 Snow Will be a fun day! | ||
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SC_ar
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JD > Snow BeSt > Rain | ||
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TornadoSteve
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RWLabs
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Snow is awful at PvZ, and even lost in situations that were 8:2 in his favour in the ASL. Sure he beat Shine, but I doubt JD will do anything but trample all over Snow. I predict a one-sided 3:0. | ||
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XenOsky
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thats all i care.... DO JAE WOOK HWAIIIIIIIIIIITINGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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prosatan
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Xxio
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Heart: Jaedong and Best | ||
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razorsuKe
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I'm ok with this | ||
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nojok
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 23 2018 19:27 The_Red_Viper wrote: So i missed the first game and it was really good? Oh well, at least rain leads it got pretty dicey in the end, so entertaining yeah. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On August 23 2018 19:28 BLinD-RawR wrote: it got pretty dicey in the end, so entertaining yeah. Entertainment is the only real way to judge if a game was good for the purpose of "casually" watching, so yeah will look at the vod, thanks! | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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I'm hoping for a banger series. | ||
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Zera
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coolprogrammingstuff
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best | ||
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nojok
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Zera
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On August 23 2018 19:45 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: Snow vs Jaedong in the PDPOP MSL arguably my favourite series of all time. I'm hoping for a banger series. These series were truly amazing | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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The_Red_Viper
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TornadoSteve
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On August 23 2018 15:30 XenOsky- wrote: BeSt 3 - 0 Rain thats all i care.... DO JAE WOOK HWAIIIIIIIIIIITINGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!! You called it mate | ||
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prosatan
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prosatan
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
The nature of the massacre that game was a surprise, but not the result. | ||
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nojok
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Incomplete..ReV
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
On August 23 2018 19:53 nojok wrote: Damn, must be tough to get destroyed like that. Honestly, the first two games were more like a coinflip than someone's getting destroyed | ||
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
On August 23 2018 20:02 M2 wrote: Honestly, the first two games were more like a coinflip than someone's getting destroyed Also 3rd game just Best giving up after he scout probe scouted. | ||
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Zera
Lithuania716 Posts
On August 23 2018 20:02 M2 wrote: Honestly, the first two games were more like a coinflip than someone's getting destroyed I would not agree. In first game Best reaver-shuttle control in the last fight was non-existent, he just dropped it in front of Rain's goons and was combusted instantly. Second game, Rain had way better map control and Best had only one cannon which was not enough to prevent DT sneaking in, he could have blocked them with units, but his controls were lacking today. | ||
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prosatan
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Elroi
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Zera
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On August 23 2018 20:07 prosatan wrote: OK ! PLEASE JAEDONG WIN !!!! IF JD LOSE I WILL GET DRUNK AND CRY , LIKE I ALWAYS DO !!! you are always drinking when JD plays :D "take a shot whenever JD hatches a unit" | ||
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prosatan
Romania8025 Posts
On August 23 2018 20:08 Zera wrote: you are always drinking when JD plays :D "take a shot whenever JD hatches a unit" YES ZERA !! I AM VERY VERY NERVOUS WHENEVER BY BABY PLAYS !!!!  | ||
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prosatan
Romania8025 Posts
 I hope i can see the at least 2 games | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
On August 23 2018 19:45 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: Snow vs Jaedong in the PDPOP MSL arguably my favourite series of all time. I'm hoping for a banger series. That is the game where JD was so ashamed of himself for blocking his ramp for like 7 minutes without noticing? | ||
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Zera
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prosatan
Romania8025 Posts
On August 23 2018 20:11 Elroi wrote: That is the game where JD was so ashamed of himself for blocking his ramp for like 7 minutes without noticing? Nope! that is against Flying | ||
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nojok
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prosatan
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On August 23 2018 20:12 Zera wrote: no way there is something more important for you than JD You know it there isn't anything in this world more important than my boy  | ||
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nojok
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Zera
Lithuania716 Posts
On August 23 2018 20:14 nojok wrote: "p[p" Is it accepted? I hope the kespa police will investigate this case. 3 year ban incoming. | ||
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prosatan
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 23 2018 20:14 nojok wrote: "p[p" Is it accepted? I hope the kespa police will investigate this case. whats a kespa police? we free boi | ||
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prosatan
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prosatan
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reincremate
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nojok
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On August 23 2018 20:24 Motivate wrote: What the hell... jaedong defeats a TvZ specialist in the hard match up then loses to a PvZ chobo Only PvZ chobo makes reaver :p | ||
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Motivate
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who remembers that map? lols | ||
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nojok
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Zera
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Motivate
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and artosis is very anti protoss | ||
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nojok
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BLinD-RawR
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Motivate
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On August 23 2018 20:53 nojok wrote: JD showed some great mechanics but his decisions were often questionable. yea mechanically he's very good but strategically he is as stubborn as ever | ||
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
On August 23 2018 20:53 nojok wrote: JD showed some great mechanics but his decisions were often questionable. Yeah, that game was somewhat frustrating to watch despite Jaedong's sound mechanics. Looks like Snow prepared better for Bluestorm. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8025 Posts
Farewell JD | ||
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
On August 23 2018 20:54 Motivate wrote: yea mechanically he's very good but strategically he is as stubborn as ever haha we made the same comment 1 second apart. | ||
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Kaley
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nojok
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nojok
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On August 23 2018 21:09 Kaley wrote: The German casting is unacceptable. He hasn't said a word relevant to the game at hand, which is in its 8th minute, instead going on about WoW and Darksouls. You're tired of tastosis? No reason to watch other casters if that's not the case (unless you speak Korean ofc). | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
I like listening to the korean cast sometimes, even if I don't understand a word. They are so easily excited. Better than listening about sc2 and pokemon and poptarts from tastosis. | ||
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M2
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prosatan
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BLinD-RawR
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M2
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On August 23 2018 21:17 prosatan wrote: Guyssss i am gone! What is the score ?? 2:1 Snow | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On August 23 2018 21:17 prosatan wrote: Guyssss i am gone! What is the score ?? 3 0, JD needed your energy. + Show Spoiler + nay, 2 1, JD got him in game 3 | ||
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prosatan
Romania8025 Posts
On August 23 2018 21:19 nojok wrote: 3 0, JD needed your energy. + Show Spoiler + nay, 2 1, JD got him in game 3 Aaaaaa you scared me Nojok!!! | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
The series will be decided by JD's defence against snow's cheese in game 5. | ||
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Motivate
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The_Red_Viper
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nojok
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Game 5 dude, greedy storm rush punished by the hydra pressure. | ||
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prosatan
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nojok
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On August 23 2018 21:35 prosatan wrote: Yessss game 5 !!! But JD is playing better when i am not watching No, it's mostly snow having two maps very well prepared (and a bit of BO luck) and then looking like a baby seal. | ||
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Kaley
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Golgotha
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nojok
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On August 23 2018 21:51 prosatan wrote: LR faster guys plssss! I need to know what is happening!! Snow went for reaver drop but JD got the first shuttle with the first reaver in it, after that it was jsut JD immaculate defense against the second round of harass, JD jsut growing on 3 bases while snow is still on 2 bases, GG. | ||
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Lightswarm
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Motivate
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i love watching zvp | ||
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Javah
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Cvitak46
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On August 23 2018 21:54 Golgotha wrote: omfg. WTF. REVERSE SWEEP?! HELL YEAH! did you see that surround? that was amazing. never seen army movement so beautiful What pathfinding issues in BW? No such thing for JD :D :D :D | ||
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Ej_
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On August 23 2018 21:55 nojok wrote: BW is the best esports, no other game has this perfect balance between mechanics and decisions. Quake ;o | ||
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prosatan
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Golgotha
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oEkY
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nojok
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Nay, most pros have the maps perfectly timed and can get away with armor/ammunition timings, there is no such thing in BW as a well mapped road can fall to a smelly cheese. In the end, skill (aim) takes the edge in quake. Love quake though, it's jsut not as rich as BW. | ||
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reincremate
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razorsuKe
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On August 23 2018 21:53 nojok wrote: Snow went for reaver drop but JD got the first shuttle with the first reaver in it, after that it was jsut JD immaculate defense against the second round of harass, JD jsut growing on 3 bases while snow is still on 2 bases, GG. I'm not even sure if JD knew he sniped that first shuttle, the scourge looked like they were just chilling there and snow ran into them LOL | ||
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ndesktop
Romania109 Posts
Nothing except troll the protoss colleagues. | ||
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Burned Toast
Canada2040 Posts
Artosis : " ...then what is Horang2 ? " Tasteless : " Horang2 is... [thinking...] ... kangaroo meat! " | ||
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prosatan
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repomaniak
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KSL rain interview KSL Tastosis virtues nerd KSL cheer + art kr casters KSL rain vs best balloo animal KSL someone will be stopped KSL audience kr girl KSL cheer art KSL cheer tastosis <3 from sweden GSL cheer snow/rain cloud KSL cheers kr KSL Artosis nexus that is stooped KSL cheer kr KSL JD interview KSL Tasteless kagaroo meat | ||
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KarlHungus1908
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prosatan
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Zealgoon
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On August 23 2018 21:58 Golgotha wrote: All I want for Christmas is for JD to win this KSL. That would be the dream. As much I'd like to see this happen I'm pretty sure Jaedong has zero chance against Rain. | ||
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razorsuKe
Canada2000 Posts
On August 23 2018 22:06 ndesktop wrote: Ok, now I can breathe. I watched JD during work and I can honestly say I will do nothing until the end of the work day. Nothing except troll the protoss colleagues. you have protoss colleagues? jeal. | ||
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
Holy hell I can’t even remember how many years it’s been since I’ve last uttered these words :D I actually had to reset my TL.net password as I couldn’t remember what I’ve used back then Thank God there’s apparently no expiration dates on TL.net user accounts | ||
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razorsuKe
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On August 23 2018 22:39 prosatan wrote: Now i know it is early, but i really want to see the last 3 games ! Can someone plssss upload them? Sure, no problem https://www.twitch.tv/videos/300817058?t=02h27m43s | ||
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prosatan
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On August 23 2018 22:41 razorsuKe wrote: Sure, no problem https://www.twitch.tv/videos/300817058?t=02h27m43s | ||
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virpi
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On August 23 2018 22:38 RowdierBob wrote: I came here just to see this. LLWWW. Like in the old days. Stunning! | ||
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TonDan
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On August 23 2018 22:05 razorsuKe wrote: I'm not even sure if JD knew he sniped that first shuttle, the scourge looked like they were just chilling there and snow ran into them LOL for sure he knows. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
LLWWW | ||
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[Fin]Vittu
Canada507 Posts
On August 23 2018 21:55 JWD[9] wrote: That last engagement was art. I was just gonna say, that was like poetry in motion! | ||
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Regentropfen
Germany277 Posts
Only watched the first two games of JD vs Snow as of now, but game 2 really felt like Jaedong back in the day. You just feel that zerg units controlled by the tyrant are simply more powerful than those of mortals. Incredible feat to make the game look almost even from time to time despite the blindcountering/star sense of snow. | ||
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NoS-Craig
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sM.Zik
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On August 24 2018 06:31 Dazed. wrote: well, im happy jaedong won, but its also pretty clear hes going to need to elevate his play substantially to be more than a speed bump for rain. I agree with that statement and I am also expecting Rain to win their next series, but to be honest if it wasnt for the really bad decision making on game 1 and 2, he probably wouldve won 3-0 against Snow. He was top notch mechanically and won every standard macro game (I don't consider game 2 to be standard because he tried that muta balls which we don't see in ZvP). So if he plays standard, macro oriented and reactive plays against Rain, he could perhaps pull it off. | ||
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noobcake_
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On August 24 2018 06:52 sM.Zik wrote: I agree with that statement and I am also expecting Rain to win their next series, but to be honest if it wasnt for the really bad decision making on game 1 and 2, he probably wouldve won 3-0 against Snow. He was top notch mechanically and won every standard macro game (I don't consider game 2 to be standard because he tried that muta balls which we don't see in ZvP). So if he plays standard, macro oriented and reactive plays against Rain, he could perhaps pull it off. It wasn't really bad decision making.JD has been doing so many reverse sweeps in this KSL (and was always known for his BO5s). I think he has had at least 3 during the KSL, even had one in the qualifiers. It's almost like he uses the first game or two to "feel out" his opponent. Sometimes, he starts with a couple of aggressive all-in games. Other times, he starts with standard and then switches back to aggressive. I suppose vs Snow, going aggressive isn't a great idea because we all know Snow's pvz is bad so forcing him to mid and late game makes the most sense. So, yes, maybe not a great decision vs Snow but he seems to just be sticking to the formula of sticking out the first 2 games and then totally shifting his tactics if he lost the first two. | ||
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sM.Zik
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On August 24 2018 07:45 noobcake_ wrote: It wasn't really bad decision making.JD has been doing so many reverse sweeps in this KSL (and was always known for his BO5s). I think he has had at least 3 during the KSL, even had one in the qualifiers. It's almost like he uses the first game or two to "feel out" his opponent. Sometimes, he starts with a couple of aggressive all-in games. Other times, he starts with standard and then switches back to aggressive. I suppose vs Snow, going aggressive isn't a great idea because we all know Snow's pvz is bad so forcing him to mid and late game makes the most sense. So, yes, maybe not a great decision vs Snow but he seems to just be sticking to the formula of sticking out the first 2 games and then totally shifting his tactics if he lost the first two. It was bad decision making. In game 1 he decided to engage into a reaver and canons which he knew was there with a small army of hydras, this is just too big of a risk. He already started droning again and added a hatch after his 3h hydra was scouted, this engagement came out of nowhere and cost him the game. In game 2, he decided to make a bunch of mutas after he shouldve know that it was double stargate. (I say he shouldve known because he saw 2 corsairs with his initial scourge) double stargate literally hard counter mutas, this was so confusing as to why he decided to do that. Then, for the next 3 games he just played standard and reactive plays, and he won easily. | ||
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BisuDagger
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Great series for JD though. That was awesome. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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SC_ar
United States35 Posts
Scourge micro king. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10158 Posts
On August 24 2018 10:59 BisuDagger wrote: I'm so tired of Rain advancing in these tournaments cause of PvP. And he is only getting this far because the best PvP player in the past five years is in the army. Great series for JD though. That was awesome. His PvT is very good too, which was his specialty in KeSPA, and his PvZ is solid too when he can beat soulkey as well. | ||
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Incomplete..ReV
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On August 24 2018 15:12 onlystar wrote: request: spoiler-free links to the twitch vods (so you dont know/see the number of games played) Here's one option: https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/962hl4/ksl_season_1_spoilerfree/ EDIT: Sorry, that would be youtube! | ||
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Burned Toast
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On August 24 2018 15:12 onlystar wrote: request: spoiler-free links to the twitch vods (so you don't know/see the number of games played) Every games played in KSL/ASL/some minors tournament are available with spoiler-free links in the Small Vod Thread. Just go there a few hours/days after it's played. Can't believe I'm still promoting this thread like the first day... it feels like half of my post are « Go to the Small Vod Thread ». | ||
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BisuDagger
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On August 24 2018 14:13 FlaShFTW wrote: His PvT is very good too, which was his specialty in KeSPA, and his PvZ is solid too when he can beat soulkey as well. I certainly won't argue his ability or skills, but as Bisu fan I can't help but be envious that ASL S5 had very protoss favored maps and tons of PvPs, both of which could have led to a Bisu championship instead of Rain. (*pending someone else has defeated Flash for him) | ||
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onlystar
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On August 24 2018 15:46 Incomplete..ReV wrote: Here's one option: https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/962hl4/ksl_season_1_spoilerfree/ EDIT: Sorry, that would be youtube! thx for this ! @burnedtoast ive used treat aswell sometimes i was impatient i guess thx | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
On August 24 2018 21:25 BisuDagger wrote: I certainly won't argue his ability or skills, but as Bisu fan I can't help but be envious that ASL S5 had very protoss favored maps and tons of PvPs, both of which could have led to a Bisu championship instead of Rain. (*pending someone else has defeated Flash for him) Bisu is very good vP but isn't untouchable. Bisu is my fav player, but let's be honest, he's had many opportunities for big wins but has dropped the ball more consistently than not. Remember him getting roflstomped by hero in ASL finals a few years back? Everything was in his favor, has his best matchup in the Finals and couldn't even put up a fight. | ||
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BisuDagger
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On August 25 2018 01:50 KamMoye wrote: Bisu is very good vP but isn't untouchable. Bisu is my fav player, but let's be honest, he's had many opportunities for big wins but has dropped the ball more consistently than not. Remember him getting roflstomped by hero in ASL finals a few years back? Everything was in his favor, has his best matchup in the Finals and couldn't even put up a fight. He has only lost 3 PvPs since 2013. He is untouchable in that matchup. | ||
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XenOsky
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On August 24 2018 17:15 Burned Toast wrote: Every games played in KSL/ASL/some minors tournament are available with spoiler-free links in the Small Vod Thread. Just go there a few hours/days after it's played. Can't believe I'm still promoting this thread like the first day... it feels like half of my post are « Go to the Small Vod Thread ». that thread is 90% the reason i visit TL :D! i can't tell you how much i love all the work you put into it, u're a legend! | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
To Jaedong I recommend overpool with your 1st hatching drone scout. He will not trade you blow for blow in a pitched battle. Rain will bring classic protoss match tactics. Go Jaedong! | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
On August 25 2018 06:17 BisuDagger wrote: He has only lost 3 PvPs since 2013. He is untouchable in that matchup. Show your work. Out of a sample size of what, and who were his opponents? What's his vP on ladder matches and what's his sample size? | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On August 25 2018 14:42 AttackZerg wrote: Jaedong played this match behind two games as if he were ahead two. Bring your fire to Rain Jaedong. To Jaedong I recommend overpool with your 1st hatching drone scout. He will not trade you blow for blow in a pitched battle. Rain will bring classic protoss match tactics. Go Jaedong! Honestly I think JD will fall to Rain in the next match, but I'm an unapologetic fanboy so I'll be cheering for him even though I can't be in Korea. | ||
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