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[ASL5] Ro8 Flash vs Snow - Page 26

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
May 01 2018 12:36 GMT
#501
On May 01 2018 21:36 Keniji wrote:
So far in this thread:

1) flash is no true champion
2) someone trying to start a "Terran is op" discussion
3) someone implying match fixing

WTF guys.


its just their disbelief.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
May 01 2018 12:37 GMT
#502
Also, the map pool from last season was actually pretty great, compared to this season's. 7P 7Z 2T in the ro16 and 3P 1Z in the ro4 vs the perfect 2P 1Z 1T in the ro4 from last season.
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
May 01 2018 12:37 GMT
#503
On May 01 2018 21:31 Mnijykmirl wrote:
doesn't it just seem like a great terran player just lost due to maps more than anything else? snow played very well but it felt like I just watched the true grandmaster get taken down because of an unfair fight

Flash lost on the most standard map and won on the most P favored one.
rackdude
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States882 Posts
May 01 2018 12:37 GMT
#504
On May 01 2018 21:35 Golgotha wrote:
End of an Era my ass. Flash will have his fucking revenge. Best series this season. Should have been finals. Is snow good at PvZ and pvp? He better win the whole thing. Then at least God did not die in vain


Nope, his PvZ isn't close to this. But, he's a PvP and PvT god.
Sweet.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-01 12:37:59
May 01 2018 12:37 GMT
#505
To be fair the real loser to this map pool is Bisu.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 01 2018 12:37 GMT
#506
My favourite recall of the series was the one Snow did on Gladiator on the top of tanks escaping the fight.
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
May 01 2018 12:38 GMT
#507
On May 01 2018 21:37 r.Evo wrote:
To be fair the real losers to this map pool is Bisu.


hahaha, no worries tho, hes had the biggest victory of all time http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/533262-bisu-ends-korean-war
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
May 01 2018 12:38 GMT
#508
On May 01 2018 21:37 leublix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2018 21:31 Mnijykmirl wrote:
doesn't it just seem like a great terran player just lost due to maps more than anything else? snow played very well but it felt like I just watched the true grandmaster get taken down because of an unfair fight

Flash lost on the most standard map and won on the most P favored one.


lol yeah third world is such a balanced map /s
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 01 2018 12:39 GMT
#509
Flash is not the true champion, he is "the champion", the player where everything runs aroud, expecially after these comebacks. But I doubt he lost due to "map imbalance", people should respect the winners, the preparation, the mindset, the strategy during the games...
BW is back
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
May 01 2018 12:39 GMT
#510
On May 01 2018 21:34 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2018 21:33 duke91 wrote:
On May 01 2018 21:31 gravity wrote:
Great series, sad Flash lost though. Maps were unfavourable but he probably could have won if he played a little better.


True champions win on unfavourable maps. True champions had won with unfavourable races in the past


Stop fishing...."true champions".....get a clue.


Flash should apologize for playing that race

User was banned for this post.
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rackdude
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States882 Posts
May 01 2018 12:40 GMT
#511
On May 01 2018 21:38 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2018 21:37 leublix wrote:
On May 01 2018 21:31 Mnijykmirl wrote:
doesn't it just seem like a great terran player just lost due to maps more than anything else? snow played very well but it felt like I just watched the true grandmaster get taken down because of an unfair fight

Flash lost on the most standard map and won on the most P favored one.


lol yeah third world is such a balanced map /s


Yeah, it's definitely not. 44% PvT in sponmatches? It's too T favored to be in a proper map pool... good thing Snow overcame imbalance!
Sweet.
Symbioth
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland103 Posts
May 01 2018 12:40 GMT
#512
Anybody knows the song name after final gg?
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
May 01 2018 12:40 GMT
#513
This was honestly not an upset, Flash was the under dog given the maps the whole time.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2447 Posts
May 01 2018 12:40 GMT
#514
On May 01 2018 21:40 rackdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2018 21:38 Essbee wrote:
On May 01 2018 21:37 leublix wrote:
On May 01 2018 21:31 Mnijykmirl wrote:
doesn't it just seem like a great terran player just lost due to maps more than anything else? snow played very well but it felt like I just watched the true grandmaster get taken down because of an unfair fight

Flash lost on the most standard map and won on the most P favored one.


lol yeah third world is such a balanced map /s


Yeah, it's definitely not. 44% PvT in sponmatches? It's too T favored to be in a proper map pool... good thing Snow overcame imbalance!

Hahahaha this was the stat I was hoping for. Their tears are so delicious.
The original Bogus fan.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
May 01 2018 12:41 GMT
#515
On May 01 2018 21:40 rackdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2018 21:38 Essbee wrote:
On May 01 2018 21:37 leublix wrote:
On May 01 2018 21:31 Mnijykmirl wrote:
doesn't it just seem like a great terran player just lost due to maps more than anything else? snow played very well but it felt like I just watched the true grandmaster get taken down because of an unfair fight

Flash lost on the most standard map and won on the most P favored one.


lol yeah third world is such a balanced map /s


Yeah, it's definitely not. 44% PvT in sponmatches? It's too T favored to be in a proper map pool... good thing Snow overcame imbalance!


with preparation there's no way this map is balanced, arbiters and carriers are way too effective, as proven in this bo5.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 01 2018 12:41 GMT
#516
So may P now, I think hero will take this one
BW is back
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22548 Posts
May 01 2018 12:41 GMT
#517
On May 01 2018 21:39 Jackal03 wrote:
Flash is not the true champion, he is "the champion", the player where everything runs aroud, expecially after these comebacks. But I doubt he lost due to "map imbalance", people should respect the winners, the preparation, the mindset, the strategy during the games...
Snow played amazingly there is no doubt about that. But that doesn't mean the maps did not play a significant role in the outcome of this series.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 01 2018 12:41 GMT
#518
Bisu sheds a tear. Bisu is gonna be pissed though when he comes back and the maps are balanced again. Kappa

User was warned for this post
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
May 01 2018 12:41 GMT
#519
On May 01 2018 21:40 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2018 21:40 rackdude wrote:
On May 01 2018 21:38 Essbee wrote:
On May 01 2018 21:37 leublix wrote:
On May 01 2018 21:31 Mnijykmirl wrote:
doesn't it just seem like a great terran player just lost due to maps more than anything else? snow played very well but it felt like I just watched the true grandmaster get taken down because of an unfair fight

Flash lost on the most standard map and won on the most P favored one.


lol yeah third world is such a balanced map /s


Yeah, it's definitely not. 44% PvT in sponmatches? It's too T favored to be in a proper map pool... good thing Snow overcame imbalance!

Hahahaha this was the stat I was hoping for. Their tears are so delicious.


No tears, I was actually cheering for snow, but nice try
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2306 Posts
May 01 2018 12:41 GMT
#520
On May 01 2018 21:33 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2018 21:31 gravity wrote:
Great series, sad Flash lost though. Maps were unfavourable but he probably could have won if he played a little better.


True champions win on unfavourable maps. True champions had won with unfavourable races in the past

"True champion" is a bullshit category.
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