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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 10:29:35
April 03 2018 08:45 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 5


Tuesday, Apr 03 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)Afreeca Starleague Season 5


Casters & Hosts


RapiD | Artosis


Streams


Korean Afreeca Stream
ENG Afreeca Stream
(Raptosis)
Youtube Stream


Matchups and Maps



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(Z)hero              (P)Best

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(P)Stork              (P)Snow





Results


+ Show Spoiler [Full results] +




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+ Show Spoiler [herO vs BeSt] +
Poll: Recommend BeSt vs herO?

Yes (38)
 
93%

If you have time (2)
 
5%

No (1)
 
2%

41 total votes

Your vote: Recommend BeSt vs herO?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Stork vs Snow] +

+ Show Spoiler [Winners Match] +

+ Show Spoiler [Losers Match] +

+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +




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Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 08:45 GMT
#2
Reserved
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 03 2018 08:47 GMT
#3
Should be hero and Stork, BeSt is about to get dumbstered.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 03 2018 09:02 GMT
#4
BeSt and Stork will hopefully get through. Please! <3

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 09:04 GMT
#5
On April 03 2018 17:47 Ikirouta wrote:
Should be hero and Stork, BeSt is about to get dumbstered.

so you're saying BeSt will go the way of pusan?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 03 2018 09:06 GMT
#6
On April 03 2018 18:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 17:47 Ikirouta wrote:
Should be hero and Stork, BeSt is about to get dumbstered.

so you're saying BeSt will go the way of pusan?


BeSt is gonna win the group. Watch this space.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 03 2018 09:07 GMT
#7
On April 03 2018 18:06 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 18:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 03 2018 17:47 Ikirouta wrote:
Should be hero and Stork, BeSt is about to get dumbstered.

so you're saying BeSt will go the way of pusan?


BeSt is gonna win the group. Watch this space.


Yesterday I gave you stats about BeSts pvp and pvz being garbage atm and you still don't believe me ;_;
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
April 03 2018 09:13 GMT
#8
TFW you're casting but not casting
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 09:24 GMT
#9
Checked the vs. matchup spon stats for the last two months for each player.

Snow is 60+% in both vP, vZ
hero is 54% in vP
Stork is 59% vP, 44% vZ
Best is 43% vP, 45% vZ
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 09:24 GMT
#10
Man, I think I'll create some tool for this.
The heart's eternal vow
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 03 2018 09:26 GMT
#11
On April 03 2018 18:24 PVJ wrote:
Checked the vs. matchup spon stats for the last two months for each player.

Snow is 60+% in both vP, vZ
hero is 54% in vP
Stork is 59% vP, 44% vZ
Best is 43% vP, 45% vZ


Stork has an insane record on 3rd world though.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 10:09:40
April 03 2018 09:34 GMT
#12
Hoping for Stork to get out of that group.

Since his match against Snow will be on 3rd World, he has a good chance of beating him, playing against hero will be difficult tho, and another match against Snow on a non-3rd world map will be difficult aswell :/

Still, gonna hope for the best and channel my power!

I want BeSt aswell but he hasn't been playing that well recently, so I am fine with either hero or Snow tbh, the fact that Stork has improved so much recently is one of the main reasons I absolutely 100% need him to get out of this group!

EDIT: I'm an idiot, I thought first match was gonna be third world
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
April 03 2018 09:35 GMT
#13
HYPE HYPE HYPE

Dinotoss and Hero to make it through
sup
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 09:39 GMT
#14
vs. stats from the past two months:
Snow: v hero 12-11, v Stork 2-2, v Best 2-0
hero: v Stork 15-6, v Best 12-6
Stork: v Best 0-2
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 09:47 GMT
#15
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 09:49 GMT
#16
Map stats for the past two months:
Snow: Transi vZ - 62% / vP - 44%, 3rd vZ - 70% / vP - N/A, Gladi vZ - 51% / vP - 80%
hero: Transi vP - 62%, 3rd vP - 44%, Gladi vP - 69%
Stork: Transi vZ - 42% / vP - 58%, 3rd vZ - 52% / vP - 63%, Gladi vZ - 23% / vP - 30%
Best: Transi vZ - 39% / vP - 56%, 3rd vZ - 53% / vP - 100%, Gladi vZ - 43% / vP - 0%
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 09:49 GMT
#17
GOGO STORK~~~~~~~~~
The heart's eternal vow
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 09:54 GMT
#18
Dinotoooooosssss
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
April 03 2018 09:55 GMT
#19
best is gay?
Commentator
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 10:05:34
April 03 2018 09:56 GMT
#20
Wait what is going on, on stream

EDIT: I think it was a joke about him being shy around women, not about being gay
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:07 GMT
#21
feel like hero is going to slay this group. I can't decide if I want stork or best through
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
April 03 2018 10:08 GMT
#22
Hero will hydrabust everyone, let the trial of PvP begin!
Give thanks and praise!
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:10 GMT
#23
On April 03 2018 19:08 Breach_hu wrote:
Hero will hydrabust everyone, let the trial of PvP begin!

it's hunger games in the P community and Katniss Byung Goo volunteers as tribute
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:11 GMT
#24
On April 03 2018 19:10 Warfie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 19:08 Breach_hu wrote:
Hero will hydrabust everyone, let the trial of PvP begin!

it's hunger games in the P community and Katniss Byung Goo volunteers as tribute

Does that mean Stork goes through or that he will fall?
The heart's eternal vow
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 03 2018 10:11 GMT
#25
Let's go, hero!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 10:12:49
April 03 2018 10:12 GMT
#26
Hard to pick. I like all 4 players. Snow and hero continuing is my prediction, hero 2:0, snow 2:1.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:12 GMT
#27
Ugh, these ramps
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:12 GMT
#28
On April 03 2018 19:11 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 19:10 Warfie wrote:
On April 03 2018 19:08 Breach_hu wrote:
Hero will hydrabust everyone, let the trial of PvP begin!

it's hunger games in the P community and Katniss Byung Goo volunteers as tribute

Does that mean Stork goes through or that he will fall?

it means he will have troubled romances with both flash and mind and receive strange gifts from his sponsors, jangbi and bisu
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:14 GMT
#29
That zergling is buttered up and oiled up at the same time
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:15 GMT
#30
Robo before gates?
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:17 GMT
#31
oh man I fear for the life of this shuttle+reaver
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 10:17 GMT
#32
Reavers on a non Island map in PvZ, idk
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 10:18 GMT
#33
On April 03 2018 19:17 Arvendilin wrote:
Reavers on a non Island map in PvZ, idk


What, reavers are common in PvZ. Maybe not as common as straight templar tech, but there are tonnes of examples of reaver games.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:18 GMT
#34
Uhhhhhhh
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
April 03 2018 10:19 GMT
#35
that scourge clone....

rip corsairs
sup
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:19 GMT
#36
sauron zerg into gg inc
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:19 GMT
#37
hero ahead in supply 94-93.
The heart's eternal vow
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 10:19 GMT
#38
On April 03 2018 19:18 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 19:17 Arvendilin wrote:
Reavers on a non Island map in PvZ, idk


What, reavers are common in PvZ. Maybe not as common as straight templar tech, but there are tonnes of examples of reaver games.

Sair Reaver on non-Island maps is much worse than doing the normal shit
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 03 2018 10:20 GMT
#39
Suprisingly muta heacy. I suppose in Transistor the base is much more exposed than usual.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:21 GMT
#40
O.o
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 10:21 GMT
#41
On April 03 2018 19:19 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 19:18 xccam wrote:
On April 03 2018 19:17 Arvendilin wrote:
Reavers on a non Island map in PvZ, idk


What, reavers are common in PvZ. Maybe not as common as straight templar tech, but there are tonnes of examples of reaver games.

Sair Reaver on non-Island maps is much worse than doing the normal shit

Sure, but I bet Best isn't very confident against Hero, and if he's been practicing a lot of reaver play on 3rd world and Sparkle it might be what he feels most comfortable in right now.

Either way if you lose all the sairs like that it's bad.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 03 2018 10:21 GMT
#42
OMG that borrow hydra sniping the shuttle. He lost 8 hydras, but worth it.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:21 GMT
#43
I'm sad for Best but man that was a great unburrow!!!
The heart's eternal vow
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:22 GMT
#44
Haha, I really don't get this game at all
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 03 2018 10:22 GMT
#45
Jesus what a beatdown
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 10:23:50
April 03 2018 10:23 GMT
#46
Rofl that Zegling is still sniping probes, I love it.

EDIT: My stream is late obviously.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:24 GMT
#47
would be crazy if best somehow wins this
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 10:24 GMT
#48
Hero is so cool I'm almost in tears.

Best needs goons now.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:25 GMT
#49
Holy hell what a bloodbath on both sides
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 10:25 GMT
#50
That pan up was fucking great lmao
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 10:25 GMT
#51
Well that's best done. He can't lose his army like that.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 10:27:16
April 03 2018 10:26 GMT
#52
The fight looks even, and then the camera moves up.

There's so much army to move, hero can't even micro them, and half the army die to storms and running past the protoss.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 10:26 GMT
#53
Those two Zealots were on their mandatory break from blocking the ramp
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
April 03 2018 10:26 GMT
#54
for some strange reason, best is doing far better than my expecations
sup
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
April 03 2018 10:26 GMT
#55
Yuck, hero is just destroying Best.
Give thanks and praise!
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:27 GMT
#56
On April 03 2018 19:26 Zariel wrote:
for some strange reason, best is doing far better than my expecations

he's not gonna get a 4th tho, I think he's dead
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
April 03 2018 10:27 GMT
#57
lol, morphing egg right in best's base
sup
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:27 GMT
#58
God I love PvZ
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2393 Posts
April 03 2018 10:28 GMT
#59
This game is amazing :D
The original Bogus fan.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:28 GMT
#60
Yeah....
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 10:28 GMT
#61
BeSt having to play that one SC2 mission where you have to hold on aslong as possible before dying
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 03 2018 10:28 GMT
#62
You can cast this game just by the mnimap
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 10:28 GMT
#63
sauron zerg'd
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:28 GMT
#64
I can't believe I saw Best outmacroed
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 03 2018 10:28 GMT
#65
HERO NO! T_T
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
April 03 2018 10:29 GMT
#66
Best has to hold for 20 minutes for the mission complete...
Give thanks and praise!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 03 2018 10:29 GMT
#67
GG!
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 10:29 GMT
#68
On April 03 2018 19:28 Heartland wrote:
I can't believe I saw Best outmacroed

Word. But then again, hero is a beast.
WriterReV hwaiting!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 10:29 GMT
#69
Poll: Recommend BeSt vs herO?

Yes (38)
 
93%

If you have time (2)
 
5%

No (1)
 
2%

41 total votes

Your vote: Recommend BeSt vs herO?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 10:29 GMT
#70
On April 03 2018 19:28 Heartland wrote:
I can't believe I saw Best outmacroed

Seeing Best comit to a Sair heavy strategy you know something is wrong
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:29 GMT
#71
sad we couldn't see this with best having a better start, his control was on point
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 03 2018 10:30 GMT
#72
Great game! I just need Stork to somehow get out of this group with Hero to be happy.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:31 GMT
#73
What map order is it?
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:31 GMT
#74
Slaughterhouse
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:31 GMT
#75
On April 03 2018 19:31 Heartland wrote:
What map order is it?

Transistor - 3rd world - Gladiator
The heart's eternal vow
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
April 03 2018 10:31 GMT
#76
although everyone knew hero was going to win this no matter what, i'm glad that the game was somewhat entertaining
sup
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:31 GMT
#77
Go Stork!!!!
The heart's eternal vow
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 10:31 GMT
#78
On April 03 2018 19:31 Heartland wrote:
What map order is it?

Transistor for the first games, winner and loser on third world, final match on gladiator, I think
WriterReV hwaiting!
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 10:32:55
April 03 2018 10:31 GMT
#79
On April 03 2018 19:31 Heartland wrote:
What map order is it?

First Transistor, then third world then Gladiator I think
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2393 Posts
April 03 2018 10:33 GMT
#80
Lots of bad Stork PvP memories... come on Song Byung Goo!
The original Bogus fan.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:33 GMT
#81
January is watching over you. Stork hwaiting~~~~~
The heart's eternal vow
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 10:35 GMT
#82
Born again lmao

Stork fiiightiiiing
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
April 03 2018 10:35 GMT
#83
Really hoping for a good competitive PvP.
Give thanks and praise!
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 10:36:48
April 03 2018 10:35 GMT
#84
On April 03 2018 19:33 Turbovolver wrote:
Lots of bad Stork PvP memories... come on Song Byung Goo!

Apparently he's >50% in the matchup in ASL >_>

edit: Really hoping that Snow forgets dragoon range
The original Bogus fan.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:35 GMT
#85
Thanks for the replies about the maps, guys
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 10:36 GMT
#86
Snow's background music is hilarious.
WriterReV hwaiting!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 10:37:53
April 03 2018 10:37 GMT
#87
On April 03 2018 19:35 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 19:33 Turbovolver wrote:
Lots of bad Stork PvP memories... come on Song Byung Goo!

Apparently he's >50% in the matchup in ASL >_>

edit: Really hoping that Snow forgets dragoon range

Haha, well ASL5's motto is `turn around` so it's time. Now or never!

Go Dinotoss~~~~~
The heart's eternal vow
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
April 03 2018 10:37 GMT
#88
hero is the luckiest player ever with his groups/opponents, isn't he?
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 03 2018 10:38 GMT
#89
Rapid didn't know what number on the clock the lower right was...
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:38 GMT
#90
Stork has the better opening location, no?

Can't remember a PvP on Transistor.
The heart's eternal vow
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 10:39 GMT
#91
On April 03 2018 19:33 Turbovolver wrote:
Lots of bad Stork PvP memories... come on Song Byung Goo!


What? Stork's PvP was always great. There's a reason he was something like 12-8 against Bisu in the matchup.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 10:39 GMT
#92
On April 03 2018 19:37 Essbee wrote:
hero is the luckiest player ever with his groups/opponents, isn't he?

He got to pick, please don't forget that. Didn't he actually pick best? If he did, he certainly walked the walk today...

And just what do you mean?
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2393 Posts
April 03 2018 10:40 GMT
#93
On April 03 2018 19:39 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 19:33 Turbovolver wrote:
Lots of bad Stork PvP memories... come on Song Byung Goo!


What? Stork's PvP was always great. There's a reason he was something like 12-8 against Bisu in the matchup.

I didn't say it was bad, I just remember the pain of all those BO losses, having superior micro and still losing dragoon fights, how it is to be a fan ;_;
The original Bogus fan.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:41 GMT
#94
On April 03 2018 19:39 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 19:33 Turbovolver wrote:
Lots of bad Stork PvP memories... come on Song Byung Goo!


What? Stork's PvP was always great. There's a reason he was something like 12-8 against Bisu in the matchup.

Yeah but the losses were/are painful.

Besides the obvious missed range upgrade a more recent was ASL3 going 0-2 in Ro24. and ASL4 against Rain, which were matches he should've won.
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:42 GMT
#95
Snow goes double robo :O
The heart's eternal vow
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 10:44 GMT
#96
Sniping the observer - sick. And it was entirely deliberate. Amazing little detail from snow.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:44 GMT
#97
That's painful
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:44 GMT
#98
Still, Stork's map awareness is the best. His pylon and observer movement is always paying 10x dividends.
The heart's eternal vow
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:45 GMT
#99
Shieeeet
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 10:45 GMT
#100
Was the Discord Artosis is talking about the one by Faust? Or is there a different one I am not aware of?
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 10:46 GMT
#101
Reavers are a good unit
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:46 GMT
#102
that control :O
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 10:46 GMT
#103
On April 03 2018 19:45 Arvendilin wrote:
Was the Discord Artosis is talking about the one by Faust? Or is there a different one I am not aware of?


its the same discord
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 03 2018 10:47 GMT
#104
Storku
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 10:47 GMT
#105
Well SnOw really deserved that win to be fair.

Stork can still do it...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:47 GMT
#106
Aw man.

ALMOST. God damn it. Almost.
The heart's eternal vow
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 10:49:00
April 03 2018 10:47 GMT
#107
Omfg...what did I just see. But ya the amount of damage wasted on missed goon shots was crazy.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2393 Posts
April 03 2018 10:47 GMT
#108
Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuch

but that was pretty cool to be fair
The original Bogus fan.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
April 03 2018 10:48 GMT
#109
Holy shit that reaver shuttle micro
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
April 03 2018 10:48 GMT
#110
Just when you thought Stork got his shit together, now Stork and Best fights each other to stave off elimination
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
April 03 2018 10:48 GMT
#111
Also the constant shuttle ferry was super impressing.
Give thanks and praise!
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 10:49 GMT
#112
Very well played by Snow
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 10:49 GMT
#113
Impressive shuttle micro, the number of negleted goon shots did win snow the game
BW is back
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:49 GMT
#114
raptosis is a good caster combo tbh!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:50 GMT
#115
No problem, Stork can still get revenge in the final match
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 10:50 GMT
#116
Wow, man, Snow was really good.
The heart's eternal vow
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 10:50 GMT
#117
Their name should be Arid instead of Raptosis because their humor is so dry.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13004 Posts
April 03 2018 10:53 GMT
#118
Snow has been executing his builds really well this ASL. Not the most talented player in the tourney but making up for it with really clever, well executed builds.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 10:53 GMT
#119
Poll: Recommend Stork vs Snow

Yes (19)
 
90%

If you have time (2)
 
10%

No (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Stork vs Snow

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 03 2018 10:54 GMT
#120
My stream was buffering so much that I didn't even realize the PvP was over rofl. Result was not surprising at all.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 03 2018 10:56 GMT
#121
On April 03 2018 19:53 RowdierBob wrote:
Snow has been executing his builds really well this ASL. Not the most talented player in the tourney but making up for it with really clever, well executed builds.


Snow is killing it right now.

He's got the best PvP currently in the entirety of the world.
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Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 10:58 GMT
#122
the hell, no cheer for songbyunggoo but now they start
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 10:58 GMT
#123
Magic reaver micro. Snow is a pleasure to watch, really... heart said Stork, but you just cannot deny Snow's talent.

Flood control delay edit: Hero's holding water in his mouth in the beginning of the game the way Flash does. Superstition? :D
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:01 GMT
#124
I actually saw more cannon rushes on 3rd world then in I don't know how long previously, seems to be work very rarely though sadly.
The heart's eternal vow
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 03 2018 11:02 GMT
#125
Snow is looking so good.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 11:03 GMT
#126
someone pls update lickypiddy!
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Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
April 03 2018 11:06 GMT
#127
does snow not know about the 11 base?
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 11:09:13
April 03 2018 11:08 GMT
#128
Wow, Hero's scourge muta micro is really good. Most zergs back away from the corsairs when there is an archon.
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
April 03 2018 11:09 GMT
#129
whelp, rip corsairs once again
sup
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 03 2018 11:09 GMT
#130
That pp timing.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 11:10:00
April 03 2018 11:09 GMT
#131
oh no herO said "pp" and paused the game himself

Snow advances first?!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:10 GMT
#132
hero played this effortlessly
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 11:12:38
April 03 2018 11:10 GMT
#133
When a unit is on move away from a source of damage sometimes it will only take half damage. That's my explanation.
Archons don't do explosive. Also the archon had + 1. And scourge only have 25 hp.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
April 03 2018 11:11 GMT
#134
wow hero didn't dnd -_-
Commentator
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 11:11 GMT
#135
Both players are a joy to watch really.
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xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 11:11 GMT
#136
On April 03 2018 20:10 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
When a unit is on move away from a source of damage sometimes it will only take half damage. That's my explanation.
Archons don't do splash. Also the archon had + 1. And scourge only have 25 hp.

What.

Archons do do splash.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 11:13:55
April 03 2018 11:13 GMT
#137
On April 03 2018 20:11 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 20:10 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
When a unit is on move away from a source of damage sometimes it will only take half damage. That's my explanation.
Archons don't do splash. Also the archon had + 1. And scourge only have 25 hp.

What.

Archons do do splash.

I meant to say explosive... Artosis said they do explosive...they do not. They do normal damage, with splash
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:13 GMT
#138
I think Snow doesn't know about the 11 expansion
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13004 Posts
April 03 2018 11:13 GMT
#139
Hero looking sharp.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:14 GMT
#140
No that it matters.

Hero kicked the whole toss race into oblivion today
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xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 11:16 GMT
#141
On April 03 2018 20:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 20:11 xccam wrote:
On April 03 2018 20:10 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
When a unit is on move away from a source of damage sometimes it will only take half damage. That's my explanation.
Archons don't do splash. Also the archon had + 1. And scourge only have 25 hp.

What.

Archons do do splash.

I meant to say explosive... Artosis said they do explosive...they do not. They do normal damage, with splash


Ah sorry, I'm not on English stream.

The answer is yes, when things move away from splash damage they sometimes are away from the centre of the splash when the damage frame occurs, this is why lings sometimes survive mines when running away from them, and hydras sometimes survive reaver shots.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
April 03 2018 11:17 GMT
#142
hoped hero will get 2nd today (knew he cannot get eliminated) so there is a chance for him to meet flash before the finals. Dont want him at the finals again
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 03 2018 11:17 GMT
#143
Hero makes me want to play zerg. Complete domination.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 11:18 GMT
#144
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

No (7)
 
54%

Yes (4)
 
31%

If you have time (2)
 
15%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 03 2018 11:18 GMT
#145
This Sunday, Group C won't competition. It'll happen April 15, 2018. But why?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 11:19 GMT
#146
Hero is the most criminally underrated Zerg player.
People think that other zergs would have a shot in a final against Flash, but Hero is the only zerg proving he deserves to go to finals based on offline play right now.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 11:22:07
April 03 2018 11:20 GMT
#147
On April 03 2018 20:18 bovienchien wrote:
This Sunday, Group C won't competition. It'll happen April 15, 2018. But why?


yes, this is already known
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:22 GMT
#148
Go Stork!!!!
The heart's eternal vow
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 03 2018 11:23 GMT
#149
Hero on fire today but dang...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 03 2018 11:23 GMT
#150
Come on best. Show them you are the macro king.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:23 GMT
#151
I just hope this won't be a botched proxy strat from Stork.
The heart's eternal vow
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 11:24 GMT
#152
Sad that only one of stork/best is comming out, but i hope stork comes around and then gets the revenge against snow
BW is back
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:26 GMT
#153
On April 03 2018 20:24 Jackal03 wrote:
Sad that only one of stork/best is comming out, but i hope stork comes around and then gets the revenge against snow

I want this so bad!
The heart's eternal vow
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 11:27 GMT
#154
Lmao that Zealots getting stuck on a probe+minerals
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6550 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 11:29:26
April 03 2018 11:28 GMT
#155
in term of offline leagues after the end of pro bw hero is proly the one with the best results,but people just prefer someone like soulkey or larva cuz from time to time they win some games vs flash,but hero is very calm and good,and zvp god.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 11:31 GMT
#156
Doing math on stream lol
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 11:34 GMT
#157
The probemanity
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 11:34 GMT
#158
gosh, that was game ending

stork
BW is back
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 03 2018 11:34 GMT
#159
Holy scarab probes kill.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 11:35 GMT
#160
Awwe no
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 11:35 GMT
#161
Rip the dream ((
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
April 03 2018 11:35 GMT
#162
whelp, rip probes
sup
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
April 03 2018 11:35 GMT
#163
On April 03 2018 20:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 20:18 bovienchien wrote:
This Sunday, Group C won't competition. It'll happen April 15, 2018. But why?


yes, this is already known


week break for super tournament
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 11:36:23
April 03 2018 11:35 GMT
#164
The scarabs are traitors to Stork. Every single time, stuck on mineral fields.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 03 2018 11:36 GMT
#165
Great PvP so far
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:36 GMT
#166
Almost had the lead after Best botched his first attack
The heart's eternal vow
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 11:37 GMT
#167
Probe holocaust, I haven't seen such a scarab hit in a century I feel.

Really scrappy game, I'm somewhat disappointed.
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 11:38 GMT
#168
can stork still recover?
BW is back
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 03 2018 11:38 GMT
#169
On April 03 2018 20:38 Jackal03 wrote:
can stork still recover?

No
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
April 03 2018 11:39 GMT
#170
I never thought about the fact that Artosis pronounced cannon as "ke-nonn"
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 11:40 GMT
#171
I think this is it for stork
BW is back
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 03 2018 11:40 GMT
#172
GG nice try Stork.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 11:40 GMT
#173
gg

stork
BW is back
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:41 GMT
#174
Fuck. This was so bad to watch.
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 11:41 GMT
#175
Poll: Recommend Losers Game?

Yes (13)
 
87%

No (1)
 
7%

If you have time (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 03 2018 11:41 GMT
#176
awwe nooo
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 03 2018 11:42 GMT
#177
BEST! YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

NOW BEAT SNOW, YOU CAN DO IT!
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elpolloloco31
Profile Joined April 2018
145 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 11:45:32
April 03 2018 11:44 GMT
#178
greate game but stork is just so overrated...

i hope Snow wins versus Best. he deserves it with his mastermind plan against stork 1st game
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:45 GMT
#179
I like both Best and Snow but I think Snow has a better chance in the Ro8.
The heart's eternal vow
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 03 2018 11:46 GMT
#180
I really want BeSt to win. Oh my god I'm praying right now.
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 11:47 GMT
#181
On April 03 2018 20:45 PVJ wrote:
I like both Best and Snow but I think Snow has a better chance in the Ro8.


Agreed, but best is still a very good in PvP, hope this is a great game to close this group
BW is back
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 11:47 GMT
#182
Did Stork leave the Kal shuttle up front for the defense? On top of his reavers? If he did, that would be the last in a series of sloppy plays he made in this game. Definitely sub-par performance. Losing to Best is nothing to be ashamed of, putting yourself in such a position is bad. He overextended at best's natural in the counterpush, left some goons to die and lost a gazillion probes to reaver harass in a bad drill.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 03 2018 11:52 GMT
#183
Shuttle vs sky again?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 03 2018 11:53 GMT
#184
nvm obs
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 11:53 GMT
#185
snow really playing it safe
BW is back
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 11:54 GMT
#186
great timing by best!
BW is back
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
April 03 2018 11:54 GMT
#187
i don't watch much pvp... is going DT against observer that much of a disadvantage?
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 11:55 GMT
#188
On April 03 2018 20:54 Motivate wrote:
i don't watch much pvp... is going DT against observer that much of a disadvantage?


yes, you spend quite a lot of resources to go DT, with an observer counter you can have a much bigger army and have map control
BW is back
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 11:56 GMT
#189
Snow's build is just right. Obs to defend versus auto-death vs dts and then back to three gates to abuse the reverse ramp. That's what I'm getting, at least.
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 11:56 GMT
#190
This map, with high ground natural, will make it impossible for best to revert
BW is back
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 11:57 GMT
#191
On April 03 2018 20:56 TaardadAiel wrote:
Snow's build is just right. Obs to defend versus auto-death vs dts and then back to three gates to abuse the reverse ramp. That's what I'm getting, at least.

Yes.

This Shuttle Flank to the 3rd is the only way out of it.
The heart's eternal vow
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 03 2018 11:59 GMT
#192
Snow got his, no way for best to win imo.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 11:59 GMT
#193
On April 03 2018 20:57 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 20:56 TaardadAiel wrote:
Snow's build is just right. Obs to defend versus auto-death vs dts and then back to three gates to abuse the reverse ramp. That's what I'm getting, at least.

Yes.

This Shuttle Flank to the 3rd is the only way out of it.


Snow obviously knew this and was wary of such moves. He's such a nice player, I feel born again.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 12:02:24
April 03 2018 12:01 GMT
#194
Best has escaped the contain! Losing the shuttle was just a ploy!

Edit: Well that was close. Looks like he was conatined for too long.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 03 2018 12:02 GMT
#195
NOOOOOOOOOOO T_T
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 03 2018 12:02 GMT
#196
GG Snow
The heart's eternal vow
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 03 2018 12:02 GMT
#197
gg, great game by snow

played really safe, got the grip of the victory and never let it go
BW is back
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
April 03 2018 12:02 GMT
#198
Wait, fantasy ASL? where are they playing this?
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orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
April 03 2018 12:03 GMT
#199
best what a shame
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 12:03 GMT
#200
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2018 12:04 GMT
#201
On April 03 2018 21:02 razorsuKe wrote:
Wait, fantasy ASL? where are they playing this?


foreign BW discord
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
April 03 2018 12:04 GMT
#202
fuck yeah snow
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 03 2018 12:05 GMT
#203
Both my liquibets went out today. God damnit Hero T_T
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4984 Posts
April 03 2018 12:07 GMT
#204
On April 03 2018 21:05 Qikz wrote:
Both my liquibets went out today. God damnit Hero T_T

Why the hell would you vote against Hero in a full protoss group. Especially with Best historically being a free win for Zergs.
FBH #1!
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 03 2018 12:09 GMT
#205
best...noooo. but i hope we see snow vs flash. snow is really good
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
April 03 2018 12:12 GMT
#206
What's this Super Tournament they're talking about?
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 12:12 GMT
#207
My prediction came true and I didn't put a LB. Cannot have it all it seems.

And hero is certainly the guy to watch out for in this ASL. He didn't get second place last time simply because of luck. Unless the other zerg players have massively upgraded their mirrors, he's a potential finalist. I can't see any protoss, besides maybe Rain, that can eliminate him in the brackets. Oh, man, Rain vs Hero would be such a sexy match.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
April 03 2018 12:39 GMT
#208
lul, Best btfo
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5585 Posts
April 03 2018 13:11 GMT
#209
On April 03 2018 21:12 gravity wrote:
What's this Super Tournament they're talking about?

SC2: (Wiki)2018 AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament 1
don't wall off against random
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
April 03 2018 13:40 GMT
#210
I hope Flash gets Rain or Snow for the ro8. No pun intended. Rain or Snow I hope Flash loses. And Rain or Snow I'll watch the games. XD.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 15:08:20
April 03 2018 14:36 GMT
#211
Funny to see Z committing on muta and easily beating P hard counter of 2 stargate. This mu will always be a joke. They had to put an islands map to help P on this mu in this season. Beside this ... watch Snow vs Stork game 2 ... there is a great play there! Snow play very smart in pvp.

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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 16:30:26
April 03 2018 16:28 GMT
#212
On April 03 2018 23:36 Xeln4g4 wrote:
This mu will always be a joke. They had to put an islands map to help P on this mu in this season.


I'm pretty sure no one even gave PvZ a thought when they made the map considerations.

Starlogg statistics represent Zerg as the lowest winrate race at almost every MMR distribution: https://starlog.gg/en/statistics/map-racial

ASL 1 statistics:
TvZ: 9-4 (69.2%)
ZvP: 2-2 (50%)
PvT: 12-5 (70.6%)

ASL 2 statistics:
TvZ: 8-11 (42.1%)
ZvP: 5-13 (27.8%)
PvT: 10-18 (35.7%)

ASL 3 statistics:
TvZ: 16-6 (72.7%)
ZvP: 18-8 (69.2%)
PvT: 6-7 (46.2%)

ASL 4 statistics:
TvZ: 6-7 (46.2%)
ZvP: 11-10 (52.4%)
PvT: 9-10 (47.4%)

Also if you check the sponsored afreeca matches from the last half year, you can see overall Zerg struggled more with Terran than Protoss did with Zerg. Of course, if you want to ignore all the data, you can just take the ASL committee's word for it as they even held a conference on talks of how to prevent Flash from winning another ASL. Not to forget, the fact that you can just watch the games yourself and infer that these maps look good for Zerg, as was their intention.




I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1680 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-04 00:04:56
April 03 2018 18:10 GMT
#213
FUCK this fucking maps man Best played SO well on Transistor but hero just gets 5 free bases -.-


For those of you who said "OMG ITS AMAZING TO SEE BEST GET OUTMACRO'D"

its easy to out macro someone when you get 5 free bases due to a messed up map

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry just frustrated with these season and these maps
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
April 03 2018 18:13 GMT
#214
Ah man, was hoping stork would make it out. At least snow made it.

Like everyone else, I would like it if flash had at least a bit of a challenge, and stork could have put up a real challenge. Hoping he has to play rain or snow on the way to his eventual victory.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
April 03 2018 18:27 GMT
#215
Yeah I'm super happy with these results but I also am a bit sad. I liked all these players and would loved to have seen them all advance.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
fazek42
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Hungary438 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 19:13:24
April 03 2018 19:08 GMT
#216
On April 04 2018 01:28 SCC-Faust wrote:

Starlogg statistics represent Zerg as the lowest winrate race at almost every MMR distribution: https://starlog.gg/en/statistics/map-racial



Wow, that is a super cool feature of starlogg! Did not know that it existed -- thanks a lot for pointing it out! I recommend everyone to check it out, it's super interesting

+ Show Spoiler +
I always knew Protoss was an imba ez race!
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
April 03 2018 19:15 GMT
#217
Holy shit game 1 is insane!
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
April 03 2018 20:36 GMT
#218
lol whats up with those protoss players being all sloppy. Snow literally have no corsair micro, stork and best doing blunders too. Its like protoss race is a level bellow other race players, only Mini looked in good shape so far.
Also im pretty sure transistor will be graveyard for protoss in pvz, as it was the island map for TvZ.
Luv ya BroodWar!
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
April 03 2018 20:42 GMT
#219
Chargelots Artosis
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 21:22:14
April 03 2018 21:22 GMT
#220
This is good for flash, Stork would have been a problem.
Snow is no pushover on these maps though.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 03 2018 21:41 GMT
#221
On April 04 2018 06:22 StylishVODs wrote:
This is good for flash, Stork would have been a problem.
Snow is no pushover on these maps though.

Stork was a pale shadow of himself today.

And yeah, Snow is pretty scary and there's a 1 in 3 chance that they'll meet in the Ro8.
WriterReV hwaiting!
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 04 2018 00:16 GMT
#222
On April 04 2018 03:10 ShowTheLights wrote:
FUCK this fucking maps man Best played SO well on Transistor but hero just gets 5 free bases -.-


For those of you who said "OMG ITS AMAZING TO SEE BEST GET OUTMACRO'D"

its easy to out macro someone when you get 5 free bases due to a messed up map

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry just frustrated with these season and these maps

Best played well AFTER he lost half a dozen sairs to scourge and got really behind.
If you think it was just the maps you are nuts.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1179 Posts
April 04 2018 00:20 GMT
#223
Hero is the second best player in Broodwar right now.

Holy shit he's been on point in the last year. Damn!
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
April 04 2018 02:55 GMT
#224
Sorry if this has already been asked but when is group C gonna be played out?

ASL isn't in the "upcoming events" section, which is how i usually figure it out.

herO played out of his freaking mind :O
killer1nz
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand164 Posts
April 04 2018 03:01 GMT
#225
Group C
April 15, 2018 - 19:00 KST

(Wiki)Afreeca Starleague Season 5
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
April 04 2018 03:03 GMT
#226
On April 04 2018 12:01 killer1nz wrote:
Group C
April 15, 2018 - 19:00 KST

http://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Afreeca_Starleague_Season_5


ty
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
April 04 2018 03:31 GMT
#227
noooooooooo that one scarab on third world was insane
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
April 04 2018 08:51 GMT
#228
"hero only won because of zvz" - teamliquid last ASL
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
April 10 2018 03:08 GMT
#229
Any recommended games besides Game 1?
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
April 10 2018 04:31 GMT
#230
On April 04 2018 17:51 Angra wrote:
"hero only won because of zvz" - teamliquid last ASL


And zvp, I certainly don't deny the zvp
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4984 Posts
April 10 2018 06:11 GMT
#231
On April 10 2018 12:08 reincremate wrote:
Any recommended games besides Game 1?

+ Show Spoiler +

Poll: Recommend Stork vs Snow

Yes (19)
 
90%

If you have time (2)
 
10%

No (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Stork vs Snow

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

No (7)
 
54%

Yes (4)
 
31%

If you have time (2)
 
15%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Losers Game?

Yes (13)
 
87%

No (1)
 
7%

If you have time (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Final Game?

Yes (7)
 
64%

If you have time (3)
 
27%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


FBH #1!
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
April 10 2018 06:25 GMT
#232
On April 10 2018 15:11 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 12:08 reincremate wrote:
Any recommended games besides Game 1?

+ Show Spoiler +

Poll: Recommend Stork vs Snow

Yes (19)
 
90%

If you have time (2)
 
10%

No (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Stork vs Snow

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

No (7)
 
54%

Yes (4)
 
31%

If you have time (2)
 
15%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Losers Game?

Yes (13)
 
87%

No (1)
 
7%

If you have time (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Final Game?

Yes (7)
 
64%

If you have time (3)
 
27%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



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