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sc19980331
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 DanJJING Star League Season 1Source: http://m.afreecatv.com/cutedan/detail/0/29384857 Stream: http://play.afreeca.com/cutedan VOD: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs8tZFISipKn_uKp1KcOXWQ DanJJING Star League Season 21/8 19:00 KST Group C Snow Flash Soulkey Effort 21:00 KST Group D Mong Miso Larva Mini 1/9 19:00 KST Group A Last Sharp Mind Hero 21:00 KST Group B Best Rush Shuttle Ample | ||
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http://m.ygosu.com/board/?bid=st&idx=1200049 http://m.ygosu.com/board/?bid=st&idx=1213384 Afternoon Every Mon. & Tue. January 일정 Schedules 2018.1.2. Tue. (화) 오후 8:00 NominatingGroup 조지명식 2018.1.8. Mon. (월) 오후 7:00 Ro.16 Group A and B 16강 A조 B조 2018.1.9. Tue. (화) Ro.16 Group C and D 16강 C조 D조 2018.1.9. Tue. (화) 오후 11:00 DrawingGroup 조추첨식 2018.1.15. Mon. (월) 오후 7:00 Ro.8 Group A and B 8강 A조 B조 2018.1.16. Tue. (화) Ro.8 Group C and D 8강 C조 D조 2018.1.22. Mon. (월) 오후 8:00 SemiFinal Group A 4강 A조 2018.1.23. Tue. (화) SemiFinal Group A 4강 B조 2018.1.29. Mon. (월) 3rdPlaceMatch 순위결정전 2018.1.30. Tue. (화) GrandFinalMatch 최종결승전 1st 2,500,000￦ 2nd 1,000,000￦ 3rd 500,000￦ 4th 200,000￦ 1~8th 100,000￦ 1~16th 바나나맛우유 1ea (banana milk) | ||
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sc19980331
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+ Show Spoiler + Flash > Snow Soulkey > Effort Soulkey > Flash Effort > Snow Flash > Effort Group D + Show Spoiler + Mong > Miso Larva > Mini Larva > Mong Miso > Mini Mong > Miso | ||
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NoS-Craig
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+ Show Spoiler + I think Last has got this one though. | ||
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PVJ
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Mind v Last | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Mind was looking good and might've got dropped. | ||
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allhenryros
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Hatchet_man
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Shuttle playing so well right now. King of the shuttle indeed. | ||
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ortseam
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+ Show Spoiler + Matches: A: Best vs Flash B: Larva vs Shuttle C: Last vs Mong D: Soulkey vs Mind | ||
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Hatchet_man
Russian Federation249 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i101.fastpic.ru/big/2018/0109/f9/46b84c0dc6907fa2c28d8f02c2b9c7f9.jpg) I don't know Korean, but that is my attempt to identify players: A. Best vs Flash B. Larva vs Shuttle C. Last vs Mong D. Soulkey vs Mind Edit: It seems I guessed right =) | ||
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sc19980331
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Ro8: 1/15 19:00 KST Best vs Flash Larva vs Shuttle 1/16 19:00 KST Last vs Mong Soulkey vs Mind | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Soulkey v Mind should be good. Mind’s TvZ has been looking good. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
On January 14 2018 16:38 RowdierBob wrote: Flash v Best looks good on paper but unfortunately I think Flash will stomp him. Best seems pretty down on form lately. Soulkey v Mind should be good. Mind’s TvZ has been looking good. Unfortunately, not only Best, there are no more title contending protosses left in pro level broodwar :-( | ||
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PVJ
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Match point - again - as for the final map. | ||
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[DUF]MethodMan
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On January 15 2018 20:20 PVJ wrote: Would have been great to see a long match on Longi too. Match point - again - as for the final map. PvT on longinus doesn't really produce long games. I abused this map so hard with 10/15 back in the day and it's horrible to play for terrans past the midgame. | ||
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ortseam
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tanngard
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ortseam
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 He showed some good games though, beating Flash in Bo5 is no small feat | ||
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Entaro[AoV]
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
On January 14 2018 16:38 RowdierBob wrote: Flash v Best looks good on paper but unfortunately I think Flash will stomp him. Best seems pretty down on form lately. Soulkey v Mind should be good. Mind’s TvZ has been looking good. Nice call  | ||
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On January 15 2018 21:40 Entaro[AoV] wrote: wow what if this goes down to Larva vs Best finals they meet at semis I think | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Best shut down Flash at very turn that game. Just all over him, I feel Flash could've done better if he tried to go more standard in that game. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Cheers to Best for taking down the unbeatable Flash | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
Flash - Best: + Show Spoiler + 2:3 Shuttle - Larva: + Show Spoiler + 0:3 | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Larva 3-0 shuttle, fucking hell Larva what a beast. I knew his ZvP was good, but holy fuck. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
On January 16 2018 00:39 orvinreyes wrote: Result of Best v Flash gives me great hope for the BW scene!! How so? There is no fresh blood in ? When these guys give up on playing there will be no more pro BW scene | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=15ibA8HhB40 | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
On January 16 2018 01:25 M2 wrote: How so? There is no fresh blood in ? When these guys give up on playing there will be no more pro BW scene Flash winning all the time really riled people up. He might just be happy that Flash finally lost a Bo5. Plenty of people got tired of seeing Flash win constantly. Shame, he puts in a lot of work just for people to want him to fail. | ||
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sasvorti00
Hungary90 Posts
Thx | ||
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ortseam
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On January 16 2018 20:38 NoS-Craig wrote: Flash winning all the time really riled people up. He might just be happy that Flash finally lost a Bo5. Plenty of people got tired of seeing Flash win constantly. Shame, he puts in a lot of work just for people to want him to fail. People just want to see more than one player winning things, happens everywhere ... | ||
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tomatriedes
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RowdierBob
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
Last - Mong + Show Spoiler + 3:1 Mind - Soulkey + Show Spoiler + 0:3 | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
So epic! Great tournament. Needs more coverage/attention. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On January 17 2018 06:56 M2 wrote: hopefully not a ZvZ final, unfortunately its the most likely outcome hmm i think Last will destroy soulkey,so 70% TvZ final | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
Finals is gonna be epic regardless. Even if ZvZ because Larva is so bm lol. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Don’t give Best much chance against Larva unless he somehow learns to play like Bisu. Always find it odd how protosses play into Larva’s defensive style plans by trying to just power over the top of him. Bisu has shown time and again that you can play around Larva’s defensiveness. Let’s hope Best shows something other than big macro timing pushes. | ||
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RowdierBob
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sc19980331
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semifinals: 1/22 20:00 KST Best vs Larva 1/23 20:00 KST Last vs Soulkey | ||
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Alpha-NP-
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Larva is exciting to watch for his bm. Best has been playing amazing recently. Even beat Soulkey 3-0 who in my opinion is better than Larva. And Soulkey is absolutely amazing. Seems like the best Zerg currently. Even in better shape then Jaedong and Effort in my opinion. Here is to a great semi-finals and finals. Cheers. | ||
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BJ Last(Terran) Terran 12 7 63.2% Protoss 48 34 14 70.8% Zerg 57 47 10 82.5% | ||
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kogeT
Poland2038 Posts
Last is very predicatble when it comes down to his TvZ. Soulkey is strongest when facing standard terran play (for example Effort is much stronger vs non standard play) Last will most likely opt for 5 rax / 2 rax aca builds, with possiblity of 1 8 rax and 1 1-1-1 build that he kinda struggled recently with. Maps are also favoring zerg players heavily. I expect 3-1 SK. | ||
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Piste
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Can't see the stream link under live events calendar http://play.afreecatv.com/cutedan gl Best. | ||
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ggsimida
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Piste
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On January 22 2018 20:45 ggsimida wrote: somewhere on his army bunk bed bisu starts to vomit Lol. This is pretty painful to watch yeah. It's pretty sad to know that broodwar will most likely not see Bisu level PvZ ever again. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
On January 22 2018 21:09 Piste wrote: Lol. This is pretty painful to watch yeah. It's pretty sad to know that broodwar will most likely not see Bisu level PvZ ever again. The really sad thing is that BW is slowly dying, there is no fresh blood and Protoss was the 1st race to lose all champion material players. Bisu went to army, Rain gave up on the game, Best doesn;t have it in him anymore I think, similar to Jaedong and Effort, moreover, Best was never a champion material anyway. At least Flash, Last and Soulkey, Lavra still keep it competitive between the other two races. | ||
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whaski
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10-1 against Hero 7-1 against Effort 13-2 against Soulkey 9-6 against Larva The games that I saw against Soulkey were mostly 1-1-1 and Soulkey seems to do quite well against that build recently so it will be close. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
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Hatchet_man
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DanJJING Star League Season 2 | ||
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Burned Toast
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 Best vs  Larva) available in the Small Vod Thread. | ||
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orvinreyes
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On January 22 2018 18:49 kogeT wrote: Yes, but can you look into details of these games? How many of these games were vs SK / Larva / Effort, and how many vs JD and other lower tier zergs? How many of TvTs were vs Flash? Last is very predicatble when it comes down to his TvZ. Soulkey is strongest when facing standard terran play (for example Effort is much stronger vs non standard play) Last will most likely opt for 5 rax / 2 rax aca builds, with possiblity of 1 8 rax and 1 1-1-1 build that he kinda struggled recently with. Maps are also favoring zerg players heavily. I expect 3-1 SK. Last vs Soulkey Jan 2018 13W 2L 86.7% Q4 2017 (Oct 2017 - Dec 2017) 20W 21L 48.8% All time (May 2017 - Jan 2018) 60W 40L 60% While you have a fair point with predictable play and the maps, it seems in their most recent H2H Last has got the upper hand. Should be a close fight. My call is Last 3-2. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
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+ Show Spoiler + Last 3-1 Soulkey Who do you guys think will win the finals? + Show Spoiler + I don't think Larva has a chance. Last seems close to Flash's skill level | ||
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Magic Powers
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On January 25 2018 06:20 Alpha-NP- wrote: Is Larva really better than Soulkey like everyone claims? They have different strengths and weaknesses. What I know is that Soulkey's early/mid TvZ outshines Larva's (probably because he has more experience with different terran strategies), whereas Larva outshines Soulkey in the late game. In other matchups I have no idea. I wouldn't say one player is better than the other. For that we'd have to have some recent statistics. | ||
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Ubersturmfuhrer
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I think tomorrow is the third place match Soulkey vs Best! And tuesday the grand finals! I have a feeling its finally Larvas time to shine. | ||
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RowdierBob
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On January 29 2018 02:07 The_Red_Viper wrote: In general soulkey has the better ZvT no? Will be hard for Larva, though i am not sure how these players match up stylistically I think there’s not much between them TBH. Larva seems a bit more solid under pressure. | ||
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sc19980331
China1609 Posts
1/29 20:00 KST Best vs SK 1/30 20:00 KST Last vs Larva | ||
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CoL_DarkstaR
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Hatchet_man
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sc19980331, you're faster than me =) | ||
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Hatchet_man
Russian Federation249 Posts
On January 29 2018 19:20 sc19980331 wrote: Haha, I am a apm 90 toss player. I'm APM 50 random! | ||
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sc19980331
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In DanJJING Star League Season 1 Ro8, Best 3:0 SK, what about today? | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Stupid hydras... | ||
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Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
well... that was pretty quick. Best takes game 1 with one major engagement in the middle in mid to late game. Second game goes to Soulkey who takes early lead and keeps it to prevent Best from taking a third. Last two games are just straight up hydra bust wins for SK. Not sure if I would recommend any of these. | ||
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sc19980331
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Interview after game, SK said he felt Best was in good shape in Game 1, so he decided to play all-in strategy after that, so Game 2 fake hydra rush, Game 3 real hydra rush, Game 4 5D then real hydra rush, bo5 done in one hour lol. Z imba ...... | ||
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ortseam
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Shine | ||
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CoL_DarkstaR
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On January 30 2018 12:48 bovienchien wrote: I guess the final's result: Last 3 - 0 Larva No way. Atleast not a clean sweep. My prediction: Larva 3-2 Last | ||
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Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
After all it seemed like all he was really training against most of last year was ZvT so I think we are up for a treat. Also interesting to see how Larva will play against the 1-1-1 build. So excited for this finals! | ||
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On January 30 2018 20:19 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Larva forgot ovelord .. maybe he is nervous too much pubg | ||
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ggsimida
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nice one actiblizzard | ||
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RowdierBob
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On January 30 2018 21:19 TT1 wrote: Larva's opener so far every game: drone to 9, gas trick (10/9 supply), ovi at 10, hatch at 10, pool at 11. Anti 8 rax build, i wonder how much of a hit he takes to his eco tho. He looks so comfortable in the late game so it's not surprising he plays super safe early. | ||
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RowdierBob
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I think this def goes to 5 games. Longinus so hard for zergs to win against a top T like Last. | ||
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On January 30 2018 21:29 TT1 wrote: 2 rax opener (1rax > cc > 2nd rax > aca) isnt bad at all vs Z, T moves out earlier with their bio so Z has to be less greedy and sunk earlier. I thought Larva might have tried a lurker build. Muta openings are really tough as you know that 5 rax is hard to hold on Longinus. | ||
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last 2 rax before gas again, he wants to hit z's nat/3rd asap (force sunks at both bases to hurt larva's eco etc.) | ||
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that said last is doing well | ||
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RowdierBob
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That was impressive too give he had to play Match Point twice and Longinus. Pretty unfriendly ZvT maps. | ||
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On January 30 2018 22:00 TT1 wrote: I think Larva's biggest strength is his minimap accuracy, it's just unreal. The speed he gets shit done via the minimap is insane. I think i will have to rewatch the games from his perspective. Guy is just so good at lategame. In the last game i thought he would lose a couple of times, but he always knew how to distract the Terran with counter attacks and ultimately destabilize him enough to take the win. Cute battlecruisers though! They were really cost efficient. | ||
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kogeT
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On January 30 2018 22:00 TT1 wrote: I think Larva's biggest strength is his minimap accuracy, it's just unreal. The speed he gets shit done via the minimap is insane. That is very much a zerg thing. I remember when I was "on top of my shape as zerg" at least 50% of stuff I was doing on the minimap. This is primarly because zerg has too much army that you can't control anyway; you have decentrilized production; you relay heavily on zergling pressure / backstabs; your game is often about being in many places at the same time, as zerg rearly have an army for direct engagement; you need to have very good harrasment awarness as single drop, be it m&m / storm / dt / reaver / vultur can ruin a game if not spotted in time. Terran and Protoss is so much about maintaining your army and production in one place and being precise with controlling your units. (I mean late game ofc, not like 1st 9 mutas obviously) | ||
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