Rookie Teamleague 2 - Page 9

On December 13 2017 02:23 SCC-Faust wrote:
When I get home from work I'm going to update the rosters and send out PMs.

Going to talk about quickly how the decisions are being made so no one is confused. Originally I was going to give people entering the OK or not if they fit in the skill range I had formed in my mind. I did this by checking their starlog, by asking friends who have played these players, and by using my own personal experience as guidance. This is not the current system anymore, and now works differently. This is how the current system works:

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A discord channel is formed on the RTL discord server where team leaders and people I know who ladder a ton have a special role to give them access to said channel. Whenever a player with higher than normal MMR enters the league, I post their name along with their starlogs and give them a thumbs up/thumbs down emote. Everyone with access to the channel then proceeds to click on thumbs up (if they think they should be allowed in the league) and then thumbs down (if they think they shouldn't). Also text is disabled so there is no discussions taking place that could change people's opinions.

People who I personally gave the okay to before I implemented this are still going to be allowed to play as I find it rude to say yes to someone, and then proceed to tell them no. Also I do not feel anyone I let in before this system outclasses the rest of the league to a ridiculous degree. After LuMiX and others have come to me telling me they feel teams are too strong, I decided this would be the best way to meet common ground. I host a league with a general idea in mind of how I want the skill to be set, and then I have a collection of players who vote on who may enter or not.

The benefits to such system are:

• Less personal bias - The people voting on entrants is wide and has leaders and players from all different teams. Chat is disabled as well. This allows people to vote with their true opinions.
  
• No power creeping teams - Teams will have a harder time stacking players with said system in place where it is hard for an individual to say no when a player is borderline meeting the skill ceiling, but a group may have a vested interest in voting against stronger teams fielding stronger players throughout.
  
• Fairness - Having multiple opinions in a voting fashion call the shots allows more people to weigh their opinions. This is a lot better than having me gauge skills and compare them and make unfair decisions because of my inability to properly place people together with the current data I have (starlogs, etc).
  
• Less bitching - Instead of having 30 pages of this thread be spawned by entrant issues like last RTL, this system is a lot more fair than just one person calling all the shots. Now if someone takes issue with a decision, it is not something they can appeal to just me, but they have to understand that this was voted on by team leaders and members of the league en masse.
  
  

Obviously the downside is everyone has a vested interest in keeping strong players out, so although that is a benefit, it is also a drawback. From common reception though, it seemed that people took issue with the stronger players I was letting in the league, so on the other hand it might actually be a silver lining all-in-all. Also something to understand is (and I've mentioned this before) that it is difficult and borderline retarded to make a tournament with a skill ceiling (esp with the playerbase numbers of SC:R) so nothing is perfect. There will be decisions made that will not look fair to everyone. The bottom line is, at this point, we're doing the best we can. And hopefully no one takes any decision personally, as I promise no one intends to hurt anyone through this or be mean.

I have a current list of 7 or so players that have gone through this process and I'm going to be adding them to the league if they passed, or send them a PM if they did not. Also, I will not be making posts about whether specific people have made it in or not and discourage any posts about people who are eligible or not as I do not want to spawn drama, cause feelings to be hurt, or let this topic run off its course. So I ask everyone do the same. Also I made this post because if you appeal to me in this thread or take issue with a decision that was made, I'm not responding and now you know why.

On December 13 2017 03:44 iRk-AGge wrote:
Hi! When is the last sign-up date? 15/12?

On December 13 2017 03:49 iRk-AGge wrote:
Oh, so too late for iRk- then. :/

On December 13 2017 03:37 SCC-Faust wrote:
LOL nice dude. And that is actually a good point. People I've personally said no to, I'll re-run them through this process.

And btw you had access to this channel but I'm going to temporarily remove it until people vote on you. After voting is done I'll give you back access.

On December 13 2017 03:58 Demurity wrote:


Fair.

I had access to the discord channel? wut

On December 13 2017 03:57 iRk-AGge wrote:
Lovely! I'll check with our low ranked players if they want a league of their own.

I'll be back in a day!

On December 13 2017 04:41 GGzerG wrote:

I remember Fedor, I actually talked to him not long ago, I think he is still playing actually just not very active anymore

On December 13 2017 05:26 L_Master wrote:


Is this same guy as npnl.fedor from like 5-6 years ago? Dude was a pretty decent zerg iirc, streamed alot and started a clan.