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On December 21 2017 13:16 LuMiX wrote:
you people have to factor in when the accts got the high mmr...getting 20-0 in august/september was not hard at all..let's be honest. getting it now is probably way harder hence my 50% winrate. Plus, I'm not even active so you guys are basing the top5 on what previous skill level?
This is true. But honestly, you're still definitively top 5 in this LOL
I saw my name get mentioned. Im pretty close to true MMR due to lack of practice, but I still have that potential to reach 2k MMR.
2k on ladder now isn't so easy anymore, but you can do it if you actively practice
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I still think LoveBoy is #1 in this if Faust doesn't remove him. That's BW-TuFFeR playing Protoss. Second would probably be one of the Inae guys, then LuMiX and others.
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On December 21 2017 23:59 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
I still think LoveBoy is #1 in this if Faust doesn't remove him. That's BW-TuFFeR playing Protoss. Second would probably be one of the Inae guys, then LuMiX and others.
Thats Tuffer? Wtf hes better than me LOL
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On December 21 2017 05:51 Demurity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2017 05:45 Liquid`Drone wrote:On December 21 2017 05:19 Demurity wrote:On December 21 2017 04:30 Liquid`Drone wrote:On December 20 2017 22:41 Demurity wrote:TBH its pretty clear the top 4 include: Lumix (around my lvl currently sitting at 20-0 2150 on ladder), Cadenzie (2k+ mmr), rlentless (around my lvl when he was active), herbmon (active, 2k mmr) I would say the 5th is probably manner]mai. I've personally never seen him play, but manner was a legit clan in iCCup, and he was B- before I was. I was looking through a bunch of accounts a couple days ago and there are many 2k+ mmr players. There may be, but I have a good feel for the skill level of the people I've listed. Statistically, these players must be higher than a majority of the players participating. I can't really speak for the rest. I totally agree that the ones you included are all better than average, but I think there are about 10 other players who are on a pretty similar level. irk has aequitas at 2070 mmr and elka above 2k, iopg has an account at 2160, aiwekas is above 2100, I think like half the [emg] guys are above 2k, and then I'm sure there are a couple I have no idea about. I just mean to say it's not clear that the top 4 are the 4 players you listed, only two of your 5 made my own top 5 in the poll - they'd all be in my top 10, though. Yeah aiwekas is AoV, hes pretty good. I agree with eMg- I know that kimquex and rich are decent. IOPG I think is kinda misleading... his mmr might be 2160 but I know he's been sitting on that mmr for a while near the beginning of SCR launch (aka easy rise) and he's definitively not as good as any of these players you or I listed.
1st.i not in aov team just help them last season (amazing team) this season i play for msj( friendly team ) what about my skill lets say i think i`m top 5 in 2x2 here,3x3 dont play for like 7 year any game ,about 1x1 lets say i training last 3month,i got some nice win but no way i good in 1x1 i call myself 2000mmr.i think in this league nr1 its lumix i saw his game vs sziky over 30min(dont remember who win) even if he inactive he still nr1 here.
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So basically there is a lot of people playing in the league that shouldn't be even more so now than before lol, much surprise much wow.
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telecom that would've included you if you were playing too tho
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On December 22 2017 10:58 GGzerG wrote:
So basically there is a lot of people playing in the league that shouldn't be even more so now than before lol, much surprise much wow.
Hey, it's better than having Telecom in this league.
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On December 21 2017 23:59 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
I still think LoveBoy is #1 in this if Faust doesn't remove him. That's BW-TuFFeR playing Protoss. Second would probably be one of the Inae guys, then LuMiX and others.
I thought offraces weren't allowed. He's supposed to link to his BW-TuFFeR profile as well.
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Oh big news. The D/C rank leagues always have been a joke when it came to player eligibilty. A lot of players in this league aren't rookies no matter how you define it.
But i stopped caring bout that a long time ago and im looking forward to play! Who cares basically? It's for the fun anyway!
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On December 22 2017 18:20 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2017 10:58 GGzerG wrote:
So basically there is a lot of people playing in the league that shouldn't be even more so now than before lol, much surprise much wow. Hey, it's better than having Telecom in this league.
LOL
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On December 22 2017 10:58 GGzerG wrote:
So basically there is a lot of people playing in the league that shouldn't be even more so now than before lol, much surprise much wow.
I agree with people who say a skill restricted league is not a good idea, and I have said so myself that this is very difficult to do. However, so far the results from week 1 have been surprisingly close, and the games have been great, and this is before the swiss style kicks in where people are paired with the team with similar stats, so technically this should be the hardest week for most teams. In comparison, week 1 of RTL1 had every team going 5-0 or 0-5 with one exception, and most of the games were stomps. You can tell yourself whatever you want to fix your broken ego when you can't accept being rejected though I suppose, but this league will do alright no matter what your useless opinion is. Your posts are basically white noise in this thread with the exception of the random chuckle or laugh people get at your expense.
Also the leader of iRk talked to me about Tuffer on several occasions. He has been nothing but super kind and willing to work with me.
iRk-AgGe - Last Tuesday at 9:15 AM
Yo bro!
As i said before, if you want to remove Tuffer from our RTL squad, it's totally okey with me. I dont want to make problems for you
SCC-Faust - Last Tuesday at 9:18 AM
Nah I made a rule to not remove someone I said yes to cause it just seems very rude imo and they did nothing wrong. Whether you want to field him is up to you tho.
iRk-AgGe - Last Tuesday at 1:42 PM
Allright!
Well, I'm 99,9% sure I don't need to use him, unless we're short of players, wich we never are.
So yeah, as you can see, not only did I get the offer from the team leader to remove him not once, but TWICE, but even on the roster, he doesn't plan on using him unless they don't have enough people to play.
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On December 17 2017 02:33 SCC-Faust wrote:
Also this is the map pool and dates. Will edit it somewhere easier to see later.
Week 1: December 17th, Sunday 3pm EDT [Fighting Spirit / Destination / Uzi Sara] [Python] [The Hunters]
Week 2: January 7th, Sunday 3pm EDT [Neo Electric Circuit / Dante's Peak / Clay Fields] [Fighting Spirit] [The Hunters]
Week 3: January 14th, Sunday 3pm EDT [Longinus / Katrina / Fighting Spirit] [Othello] [The Hunters]
Week 4: January 21st, Sunday 3pm EDT [Destination / Uzi Sara / Neo Electric Circuit] [Python] [The Hunters]
Week 5: January 28th, Sunday 3pm EDT [Dante's Peak / Clay Fields / Longinus] [Fighting Spirit] [The Hunters]
Week 6: February 4th, Sunday 3pm EDT [Katrina / Fighting Spirit / Destination] [Othello] [The Hunters]
Week 7: February 11th, Sunday 3pm EDT [Uzi Sara / Neo Electric Circuit / Dante's Peak] [Python] [The Hunters]
Week 8: February 18th, Sunday 3pm EDT [Clay Fields / Longinus / Katrina] [Fighting Spirit] [The Hunters]
Fighting Spirit / Destination / Uzi Sara / Neo Electric Circuit / Dante's Peak / Clay Fields / Longinus / Katrina
Python / Fighting Spirit / Othello
hmm, I find it "lame" that Hunters is the sole 3on3 map. At the very least you could include BGH and for the lulz also maybe Fastest and some Blizzard maps. Always Hunters for 3on3 is meh imo at least 
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On December 23 2017 02:16 chrisolo wrote:hmm, I find it "lame" that Hunters is the sole 3on3 map. At the very least you could include BGH and for the lulz also maybe Fastest and some Blizzard maps. Always Hunters for 3on3 is meh imo at least
I'm not a fan of hunters personally. Last RTL used BGH, and I'm a huge BGH fan. I held a vote tho and Hunters won by a considerable margin. This is something I definitely want to experiment with the next tournament I host though, because I love 2v2/3v3. I made it only one map though because it is probably the least played of the sets, and I didn't want to put pressure on a ton of people to practice and familiarize themselves with 3v3 maps on top of the 1v1/2v2 maps.
I am actually thinking of hosting a 3v3 tournament with a prize pool next, or at least entertaining the idea. When this ends, I'll have my mind decided and move on whatever plans I make. Some people make really interesting 3v3 maps and I would be ecstatic to watch a tournament play out on these maps and see what strategies people come up with.
Two maps I'd like to see are Redheart Bridge and another 2v2 map someone made in the [SK] clan. [SK] hosted a 2v2 tournament one week and I played it alongside with someone in dM- and had a great time. It was a shared base map with long rush distances, and the games I played on it were very fun. If anyone remembers this map, can someone upload it?
This is Redheart Bridge:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4Y0rJH7.jpg)
After playing on shared base maps for Brood War, I am no longer skeptical. They are for sure super fun and I highly advise people try them out. I am not really sure what other 3v3 maps there are though. If anyone has any recommendations for 3v3 maps, message me and I'll probably sit on it and eventually host a 3v3 tournament.
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3v3 on Killing Fields or Expedition, most epic games.
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On December 23 2017 02:25 SCC-Faust wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2017 02:16 chrisolo wrote:hmm, I find it "lame" that Hunters is the sole 3on3 map. At the very least you could include BGH and for the lulz also maybe Fastest and some Blizzard maps. Always Hunters for 3on3 is meh imo at least I'm not a fan of hunters personally. Last RTL used BGH, and I'm a huge BGH fan. I held a vote tho and Hunters won by a considerable margin. This is something I definitely want to experiment with the next tournament I host though, because I love 2v2/3v3. I made it only one map though because it is probably the least played of the sets, and I didn't want to put pressure on a ton of people to practice and familiarize themselves with 3v3 maps on top of the 1v1/2v2 maps. I am actually thinking of hosting a 3v3 tournament with a prize pool next, or at least entertaining the idea. When this ends, I'll have my mind decided and move on whatever plans I make. Some people make really interesting 3v3 maps and I would be ecstatic to watch a tournament play out on these maps and see what strategies people come up with. Two maps I'd like to see are Redheart Bridge and another 2v2 map someone made in the [SK] clan. [SK] hosted a 2v2 tournament one week and I played it alongside with someone in dM- and had a great time. It was a shared base map with long rush distances, and the games I played on it were very fun. If anyone remembers this map, can someone upload it? This is Redheart Bridge: After playing on shared base maps for Brood War, I am no longer skeptical. They are for sure super fun and I highly advise people try them out. I am not really sure what other 3v3 maps there are though. If anyone has any recommendations for 3v3 maps, message me and I'll probably sit on it and eventually host a 3v3 tournament.
in SK we use a hunters map with ramps...surprisingly I've had some really good games on it, probably better than the original.
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On December 22 2017 18:20 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2017 10:58 GGzerG wrote:
So basically there is a lot of people playing in the league that shouldn't be even more so now than before lol, much surprise much wow. Hey, it's better than having Telecom in this league.
So clever...The sad thing about this is that this is the only thing you are good at, forum keyboard warrior. Do you even play this game? - -
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Norway28665 Posts
are you gonna challenge him also to prove that you are bad enough to play in the league?
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On December 23 2017 00:31 SCC-Faust wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2017 10:58 GGzerG wrote:
So basically there is a lot of people playing in the league that shouldn't be even more so now than before lol, much surprise much wow. I agree with people who say a skill restricted league is not a good idea, and I have said so myself that this is very difficult to do. However, so far the results from week 1 have been surprisingly close, and the games have been great, and this is before the swiss style kicks in where people are paired with the team with similar stats, so technically this should be the hardest week for most teams. In comparison, week 1 of RTL1 had every team going 5-0 or 0-5 with one exception, and most of the games were stomps. You can tell yourself whatever you want to fix your broken ego when you can't accept being rejected though I suppose, but this league will do alright no matter what your useless opinion is. Your posts are basically white noise in this thread with the exception of the random chuckle or laugh people get at your expense. Also the leader of iRk talked to me about Tuffer on several occasions. He has been nothing but super kind and willing to work with me.
iRk-AgGe - Last Tuesday at 9:15 AMYo bro! As i said before, if you want to remove Tuffer from our RTL squad, it's totally okey with me. I dont want to make problems for you SCC-Faust - Last Tuesday at 9:18 AMNah I made a rule to not remove someone I said yes to cause it just seems very rude imo and they did nothing wrong. Whether you want to field him is up to you tho. iRk-AgGe - Last Tuesday at 1:42 PMAllright! Well, I'm 99,9% sure I don't need to use him, unless we're short of players, wich we never are.
So yeah, as you can see, not only did I get the offer from the team leader to remove him not once, but TWICE, but even on the roster, he doesn't plan on using him unless they don't have enough people to play.
Hey listen no hard feelings, I appreciate your PM to me was actually very professional, although it was just a long wall of text that meant nothing, because really you are not using a "Skill" restriction, you are using a damn "Bias" restriction, it's sickening that you won't just come out and say you are restricting me from playing b/c you are a bandwagoner and because others dislike me (B/c of BM in past, and or b/c they think I wasn't really in Korean clans / I was lying about it.), it'd really be more respectful and you showing you are a man / not a coward, by just telling the truth and say you why you are really restricting me from playing in your little league.
I'm over playing in the league I don't care about that, it is just the fact that this is what the BW Foreign scene is now, is a bunch of bandwagon players that if you are not in the " in " crowd, or don't see eye to eye, you are not allowed to play in an event, that is being clear cut and concise.
Also, because the majority of the people in the BW Foreign scene that "don't like me / hate me / don't want me playing in events / etc" don't even know me, have never spoken to me, or anything of the sort, that is why I use the term ' bandwagon' , because if you dislike someone just b/c other people dislike that person b/c of arbitrary reasons it shines through, and ultimately you will not achieve what you are striving to do, which is to get me to not play in the BW foreign scene events.
Maybe not in your events, but I am not going anywhere, get used to it.
On December 24 2017 04:10 Liquid`Drone wrote:
are you gonna challenge him also to prove that you are bad enough to play in the league?
Challenges are dead in this scene, people don't respect the skill in game, they respect being in a clique / knowing the right people, saying the 'right' things, this scene is more politics then it is about skill really, people aren't playing for the same reasons they used to anymore.
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Norway28665 Posts
To be honest, I think you are not too good for this league. There are probably 10 players in it that I think are better. But you seem to be consistently arguing from a 'what benefits me right now' perspective, showcased through claiming to be bad when being bad is a requirement for being allowed to join a tournament and claiming to be good when you want recognition for being good. There was a good breakdown of you claiming to be anywhere from C- to B skill level based on tournament restrictions earlier.
For that reason I can't help but feel a bit like you not being allowed to join this tourney because the highest level you've claimed to be at is higher than the level permitted is a case of karmic justice, and this feeling is exacerbated by you doing stuff like challenging faust (who himself said he is too good to play in the league) where if you won, that'd prove that you're bad enough to deserve admission. As for foreign bw being a cool kids club, meh. It's not difficult to be accepted, all you have to do is be a reasonably nice guy. I see new people join the community all the time and if they don't act like jerks, they get accepted with pretty open arms, people help them out with their game etc. I can agree that people are going to judge you based on past sins, especially if you haven't really tried to redeem yourself, but that's kinda a crucial part of motivating people to be nice. A lot of people would be way bigger assholes if there were no negative consequences to it.
No hard feelings though, I think it'd be swell if you focused on playing a lot and improving your skills and becoming a regular tournament participant, we need all the people we can get. If you wanna challenge people to grudge matches and then actually show up for them, that'd be awesome too, watching grudge matches is great. I just thought the aspect of complaining about not being allowed into the league because you are perceived as too good was really weird to combine with challenging people to prove that you are better than them.
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I'm gonna stream some of the matches in an hour and half (6pm EDT) for week1, just kinda impromptu. Not really an official cast or anything.
Edit: Stream link http://www.twitch.tv/faustypoo
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