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[ASL4] Ro4 Flash vs Bisu - Page 30

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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2072 Posts
October 31 2017 11:28 GMT
#581
HOLY FUCK this game!!! How the fuck did Bisu even stop that push b4 reavers r out?? That's really a game worth of 2 legends
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THE Sliggy
Profile Blog Joined September 2017
Australia65 Posts
October 31 2017 11:28 GMT
#582
I love Bisu but FlaSh just handed him that one.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4145 Posts
October 31 2017 11:28 GMT
#583
On October 31 2017 20:26 TT1 wrote:
Bisu holds, FlaSh's b.o was a good idea but it looked like more of an on the fly idea, his timing didn't look refined at all.


I think Flash didn't expect Bisu to go for 1 gate in to 2 base carriers that's why he decided to do that lol
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
October 31 2017 11:28 GMT
#584
On October 31 2017 20:27 JelloKitty wrote:
wow, that caster needs to take a chill pill :D. I like the casting but killing 1 medic with a scarab is not a mass marine slaughter

Watch the Korean stream or FlashFTW's stream.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
October 31 2017 11:28 GMT
#585
On October 31 2017 20:27 merz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 20:26 TT1 wrote:
Bisu holds, FlaSh's b.o was a good idea but it looked like more of on the fly idea, his timing didn't look refined at all.


He has done this in a few practice games on Crossing field while streaming. Didn't expect him to actually use it in a tournament game though lol.


I doubt his timings in practice games were lined up vs the specific b.o that Bisu did tho. Progamer P's rarely go straight 2 stargate carrier before robo, Bisu just said fuck it.
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
October 31 2017 11:28 GMT
#586
Bisu is not close to flash's level. Give maps like these to protoss and I think protoss definitely has a chance, even vs flash. Carriers are super good on this.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 31 2017 11:29 GMT
#587
On October 31 2017 20:26 _Animus_ wrote:
Flash giving us generously one if his games for the show.
Bows to Flash!

no he's not. Flash has said that he's had issues with Crossing Field before and he went for this timing as TT1 explained. Just because Bisu won doesn't mean that Flash purposely threw the game...
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sLimze
Profile Joined April 2017
26 Posts
October 31 2017 11:29 GMT
#588
lmao nice meme flash
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia940 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 11:29:45
October 31 2017 11:29 GMT
#589
Eh, it was a legit strategy. Bisu scouting it that early and not fucking up his control afterwards allowed him to hold.

If he started adjusting a single marine wave later he probably would die.

Wouldn't call it Flash trying to humiliate Bisu or anything like that.
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 11:30:25
October 31 2017 11:29 GMT
#590
if you would make an estimate about Gold Rush tvp stats its around 70% terran vs 30% protoss
the map is that hard to play vs terran on the wopping 6 expos in the center and the ease terran can controll center with makes it a terran heaven.

flash has like a 95%^win ratio tvp on gold rush so the score will be 3-1 for flash.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10378 Posts
October 31 2017 11:29 GMT
#591
I think Flash had to go for it because he didnt have the factories out to build goliaths to match the speed of the carriers. His other option was to turtle on mass turrets in his base while building a ton of factories, getting +1 on mech and pumping goliaths. was probably a safer move tbh.
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Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
October 31 2017 11:30 GMT
#592
On October 31 2017 20:29 Soulforged wrote:
Eh, it was a legit strategy. Bisu scouting it that early and not fucking up his control afterwards allowed him to hold.

If he started adjusting a single marine wave later he probably would die.

Wouldn't call it Flash trying to humiliate Bisu or anything like that.


If he didnt see the marines with the Carriers, there is no way, that he holds.
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StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
October 31 2017 11:30 GMT
#593
On October 31 2017 20:28 Essbee wrote:
Bisu is not close to flash's level. Give maps like these to protoss and I think protoss definitely has a chance, even vs flash. Carriers are super good on this.

The first 2 games with close spawns is not protoss favored you know.. Flash is a god, but bisu is damn strong too.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
October 31 2017 11:30 GMT
#594
fucking chills
the sheer excitement in the crowd was palpable as bisu started to push back the waves of marines..
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4145 Posts
October 31 2017 11:30 GMT
#595
If Bisu didn't attack with the first 2 carriers that might have worked
jowelsgrry
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 11:31:07
October 31 2017 11:30 GMT
#596
[image loading]

This is what Bisu felt like when he skipped robotics facility :^^
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1451 Posts
October 31 2017 11:30 GMT
#597
I think there was a moment where Flash could have waited for two production-cycles of marines unite, right before the reaver was ready, and he would've done huge damage to carriers or natural.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4156 Posts
October 31 2017 11:30 GMT
#598
I think Flash went for marines coz his goliath timing was already off, he had only 1 factory when Bisu was already building his 2 carriers, so Flash could have either build enough goliaths or enough tanks, not both and it would have been way easier for Bisu to switch to the right number of air and ground units, so Flash went for marins & tanks that can possibly fight both air and ground successfully at the right timing
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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
October 31 2017 11:30 GMT
#599
On October 31 2017 20:28 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 20:27 merz wrote:
On October 31 2017 20:26 TT1 wrote:
Bisu holds, FlaSh's b.o was a good idea but it looked like more of on the fly idea, his timing didn't look refined at all.


He has done this in a few practice games on Crossing field while streaming. Didn't expect him to actually use it in a tournament game though lol.


I doubt his timings in practice games were lined up vs the specific b.o that Bisu did tho. Progamer P's rarely go straight 2 stargate carrier before robo, Bisu just said fuck it.


Correct. If I remember it correctly he would even do it blindly because assuming carriers on Crossing fields is a pretty valid calculated risk.
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 31 2017 11:31 GMT
#600
On October 31 2017 20:27 SOMAA wrote:
flash tried to humiliate bisu and it backfired. now let's see how strong his mind is going to game 4.

wrong, bio was a valid response, 2 base carrier begs to be punished and it nearly was, if not for a couple clutch reaver shots.
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