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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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Murchaldo
18 Posts
On September 24 2017 21:32 batsnacks wrote: do devourers decloak? I thought that was just ensnare The Acid Spores debuff reveals targets that try to cloak, yes. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
What about Jangbi? He won his first OSL exactly like this. And then went to win a second one. I was telling my friend that I thought killer would advance after his game vs flash, he looked solid. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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TT1
Canada10045 Posts
On September 24 2017 21:33 Eleonora wrote: What did he do exactly ? Is it a variation of 3 Hatch Muta or does the variation start before this point ? Hydra den + spire but he got lurks first and secured an early 3rd, he went mutas behind it because he was planning to guardian rush but that feels a bit gimmicky to me. I like showing both the hydra den and spire tho, it forces T to play safe so he cant push out with his bio and they might get turrets (and having a spire is always good to defend vs drops etc.). I dunno why z's dont do that opener with 2 quick evos and a faster 4th macro hatch (to drone up and mass quicker), just feels like a really strong all around opener. Z's don't accomplish much with their mutas nowadays vs 5 rax +1.. and it's a huge investment (they usually get ~11 mutas). | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51098 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3749/12084726004_dcd3425fa5_o.jpg) | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On September 24 2017 21:37 Essbee wrote: What about Jangbi? He won his first OSL exactly like this. And then went to win a second one. I was telling my friend that I thought killer would advance after his game vs flash, he looked solid. Jangbang won OSL through the backdoor? Wow! Never knew that. Who got out, and why? Yes, Killer really held on well against Flash, but Flash was just too solid and fended off the half-botched Guardian sneak attack without much fuss. Why do these second-chance players do well? Probably a combination of the other players underestimating them, and them playing with a nothing-to-lose & destiny-is-calling mindset. Killer did bring out some sick strats (guardians and fast ultras). | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51098 Posts
On September 24 2017 21:45 RKC wrote: Jangbang won OSL through the backdoor? Wow! Never knew that. Who got out, and why? Yes, Killer really held on well against Flash, but Flash was just too solid and fended off the half-botched Guardian sneak attack without much fuss. Why do these second-chance players do well? Probably a combination of the other players underestimating them, and them playing with a nothing-to-lose & destiny-is-calling mindset. Killer did bring out some sick strats (guardians and fast ultras). check my post above, you'll see the whole story. | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4356 Posts
I think skipping the mutas completely would allow the T too much free reign and ability to cut corners no? | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On September 24 2017 21:45 BLinD-RawR wrote: check my post above, you'll see the whole story. That's some epic shit. All TL previews should be in this format. | ||
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
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TT1
Canada10045 Posts
On September 24 2017 21:50 KobraKay wrote: Don't the mutas serve to keep the terran honest and somewhat slow him down? I think skipping the mutas completely would allow the T too much free reign and ability to cut corners no? Cutting corners in what way? If you show T a hydra den and spire they're still gonna turret up most of the time (like Sharp did last game, you can just get drones and 2-3 hydras instead of going mutas, you have to get your evo chambers after the first 2 scans tho.. if they scan those they'll know you're not going mutas). Moving out on the map to deny z's 3rd and not turreting up are the advantages that T has when they know Z is 100% going lurks. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28861 Posts
On September 24 2017 21:50 KobraKay wrote: Don't the mutas serve to keep the terran honest and somewhat slow him down? I think skipping the mutas completely would allow the T too much free reign and ability to cut corners no? It's really important that you build the spire, both because you want terran to build turrets and because you need the option for making scourge later. But I'm inclined to agree with tt1 that the value of faster 1-1 is bigger than the value the first 9 mutas give you against 5 rax +1. But I definitely think that getting getting hydra den when lair is half done AND spire when lair is done is what should become a new zerg meta. Then sometimes you actually make the mutas, sometimes you don't. One of zerg's best advantages is how quickly they can change army composition and mix stuff up, it's absolutely something they should do more of. | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
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TT1
Canada10045 Posts
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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legaton
France1763 Posts
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Amanebak
Czech Republic528 Posts
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Levque
88 Posts
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
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