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EsportsJohn
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 Afreeca Starleague Season 3Casters & HostsStreamsAfreecaTV (FlashFTW and EsportsJohn) Twitch TV (Tasteless and Artosis) ASL Youtube Channel with both English and Korean Stream Matchups and MapsResults sSak [Outsider]  Bisu sSak Bisu sSak Bisu sSak [Circuit Breaker] Bisu sSak BisuRecommended Games | ||
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thread needs more hype | ||
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Pretty sure Ssak can't beat Bisu's trickery. | ||
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YASHSHAKAR
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Bisu said he intends to bring out Protoss full potential. Ssak is in his top possible form. It will be a clash of titans today. My prediction: Bisu 3:1 Ssak | ||
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On May 14 2017 19:04 BlackJack wrote: Is the english stream not on the youtube channel? https://www.twitch.tv/gsl | ||
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On May 14 2017 19:07 arbiter_md wrote: So, what map was excluded? I just saw that first and last map are on something with SE, the same name. Outsider SE Andromeda Camelot Circuit Breaker Outsider SE the 5 maps from 1st to last game | ||
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Poor sSak | ||
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c3rberUs
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omg lol | ||
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e: HE DIDN'T SEE IT? e2: he saw it | ||
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e: I guess it doesn't matter | ||
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sixfour
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n/m citadel | ||
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c3rberUs
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+ Show Spoiler + go bisu! | ||
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gngfn
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Unless he gets cute and goes for Wraiths for the nonexistent Shuttle | ||
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c3rberUs
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except for where Bisu hid his DT tech | ||
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gngfn
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On May 14 2017 19:25 Ej_ wrote: SSak just going to get an SV before a comsat or a turret. I think this is actually the first game I have ever seen to clean up DTs in this way | ||
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mdb
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On May 14 2017 19:26 gngfn wrote: I think this is actually the first game I have ever seen to clean up DTs in this way I`ve never seen it too | ||
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c3rberUs
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From the games I've seen, it's usually too late when the vessel appears (and oft ridiculed too) | ||
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On May 14 2017 19:35 Arvendilin wrote: OMG I forgot for a second, holy shit thank god I didn't miss anything You missed the crazy early game :p | ||
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Arvendilin
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I mean yes, BUT I didn't miss the entirety of game 1, I'll rewatch the VOD later tho... | ||
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gngfn
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With that said, why is Bisu not expanding more aggressively? | ||
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On May 14 2017 19:42 c3rberUs wrote: I think this is sSak's game to lose Honestly it's looked like that for last 10min, Bisu on low eco outplaying sSak with army control/movement. | ||
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On May 14 2017 19:45 r.Evo wrote: That base on the right cost Bisu so much. ;; yeah | ||
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letian
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Actually he would barely survive on such low eco. | ||
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BlackJack
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On May 14 2017 19:50 mdb wrote: This game should have ended in the first 10 minutes, after that it was painful to watch what? That game was crazy good | ||
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thezanursic
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On May 14 2017 19:51 Ender2701 wrote: Bisu really needed to take more bases that game, not sure what was going on. Really good game though! I think he should have taken the natural of 7 o'clock, with that being said it's very hard to take a base in Bisu's situation on that map | ||
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On May 14 2017 19:58 BLinD-RawR wrote: Starsense White noise turned off | ||
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bisu's starsense that game almost made it seem like he was cheating lol | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:02 r.Evo wrote: That Bisu happy face. :3 this | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:02 r.Evo wrote: That Bisu happy face. :3 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ayO4o.gif) | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:02 BLinD-RawR wrote: play clean jeez, next is shamalot right? nah, I say let the shenanigans continue! | ||
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thezanursic
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I predict Bisu is going to cheese | ||
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letian
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Well considering sSak group performance I wonder why ppl even doubted him. | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:03 thezanursic wrote: Okay Bisu has the momentum again. I predict Bisu is going to cheese The guy who cheeses loses, can he end the streak? | ||
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Poll: Recommend Game 1? Yes (66) No (1) If you have time (0) 67 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 1? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 14 2017 20:06 BlackJack wrote: Can the players hear the audience? You can hear the audience screaming when Bisu almost scouts the BBS. Looks like they are just sitting on a stage not far from the audience with headphones on. How well do those headphones work at keeping the players from hearing the audience? they're pretty solid headphones | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On May 14 2017 20:06 BlackJack wrote: Can the players hear the audience? You can hear the audience screaming when Bisu almost scouts the BBS. Looks like they are just sitting on a stage not far from the audience with headphones on. How well do those headphones work at keeping the players from hearing the audience? pro league players say they can kinda hear the audience and i think theyre using nearly identical quality noise cancelers. i want the booths back tbh. | ||
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outscar
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On May 14 2017 20:06 BlackJack wrote: Can the players hear the audience? You can hear the audience screaming when Bisu almost scouts the BBS. Looks like they are just sitting on a stage not far from the audience with headphones on. How well do those headphones work at keeping the players from hearing the audience? I think if his game music is turned off there's a high chance that he can hear it. It's 100% obvious after crowd started shouting Bisu moved his probe back, he didn't meet any SCV or starsense. EDIT: They showed replay, so he saw SCV. But he turned back so late it looked like he heard crowd. | ||
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Arvendilin
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On May 14 2017 20:06 FlaShFTW wrote: pro league players say they can kinda hear the audience and i think theyre using nearly identical quality noise cancelers. i want the booths back tbh. Yea, I 100% want booths EDIT: Tho even those can sometimes not work, famously in Naniwa vs Polt | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On May 14 2017 20:07 outscar wrote: I think if his game music is turned off there's a high chance that he can hear it. It's 100% obvious after crowd started shouting Bisu moved his probe back, he didn't meet any SCV or starsense. EDIT: They showed replay, so he saw SCV. But he turned back so late it looked like he heard crowd. nope,bisu did cross scout and one scv appeared on his main,so by the timing of cross was off but top right or bottom left,+ i ask my self if he didnt see that second scv. | ||
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gngfn
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On May 14 2017 20:10 Essbee wrote: I really dislike this trend of constantly using yellow vs red 100% agree, it is lame as hell | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:06 FlaShFTW wrote: pro league players say they can kinda hear the audience and i think theyre using nearly identical quality noise cancelers. i want the booths back tbh. If ASL uses the same headphones GSL does, it's physically impossible to hear anything through the white noise. Progamers reportedly have to use very good earphones to even hear the game sounds. Plastic booths are not even comperable to that. | ||
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Arvendilin
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Starting from the ro4 each player should have their own colour! Like in PL | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:14 Arvendilin wrote: Starting from the ro4 each player should have their own colour! Like in PL What do you mean? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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its an SC2 Proleague LR thread thing, they did it a couple of time for the grand finals, its pretty cool, but too much of an annoyance for people like me. | ||
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In the SC2 ProLeauge each team got assigned a colour, I thought that was cute | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:16 BLinD-RawR wrote: its an SC2 Proleague LR thread thing, they did it a couple of time for the grand finals, its pretty cool, but too much of an annoyance for people like me. Ok I see | ||
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This is how protoss should play against terrans like sSak. | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:18 Disregard wrote: BISU NODDING WITH CONTENT Haha those nods were so good. | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:18 Disregard wrote: BISU NODDING WITH CONTENT | ||
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This is the Bisu we | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RYfQyOU.jpg) love you guys ahahaha | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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what have i missed fam | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: forgot this was on what have i missed fam you just missed a godly game from bisu | ||
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r.Evo
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On May 14 2017 20:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: forgot this was on what have i missed fam See background! E V E R Y T H I N G | ||
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hitthat
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On May 14 2017 20:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: forgot this was on what have i missed fam UMS games, that's what you missed. | ||
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Arvendilin
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On May 14 2017 20:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: forgot this was on what have i missed fam FUCKING AMAZING GAMES | ||
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c3rberUs
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Poll: Recommend Game 3? Yes (59) No (0) If you have time (1) 60 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 3? vote on the polls people!!! | ||
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thezanursic
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On May 14 2017 20:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: forgot this was on what have i missed fam A LOT, the greatest series this season imho. 2 games left | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: if bisu does this disgusting shit again I'm plastering that gif on again. can we have a time and date set where we have an ode to bisu next year too? thx | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:21 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: forgot this was on what have i missed fam everything | ||
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thezanursic
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Don't forget about game 1 | ||
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r.Evo
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On May 14 2017 20:22 c3rberUs wrote: Poll: Recommend Game 3? Yes (59) No (0) If you have time (1) 60 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 3? vote on the polls people!!! I have a feeling these polls are gonna be pretty unanimous so far. =D | ||
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THE SALT IS REAL! (you are not wrong tho :p (but the games were so good!)) | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:22 thezanursic wrote: A LOT, the greatest series this season imho. 2 games left you mean one, sSak is a broken man after that. | ||
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hitthat
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You completely missed the point. Bisu is my favorite protoss player :D | ||
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r.Evo
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On May 14 2017 20:24 BLinD-RawR wrote: you mean one, sSak is a broken man after that. If he can play a good game after this I'll be extremely surprised too. | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:24 hitthat wrote: You completely missed the point. Bisu is my favorite protoss player :D I know, just toying with ya <3 | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:27 gngfn wrote: ...No cheer for Ssak? His fans are too tilted after that last game | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:31 Arvendilin wrote: His fans are too tilted after that last game Even Bisu's fans must have been tilted after the last game. | ||
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pull those shuttles back | ||
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c3rberUs
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sSak preparing a starport though | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:37 c3rberUs wrote: Bisu sensed the danger? o.o Apparently, not | ||
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Bisu's position wasn't good though | ||
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I don't even wat | ||
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The fuck. | ||
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What was he trying to accomplish that game? | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:40 BLinD-RawR wrote: <style>body { background: url('http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/SonuvBob/ss/bisu_o_face.jpg'); }</style> I don't even wat | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:39 r.Evo wrote: I don't understand that push when you're 2 bases up. The fuck? This, I am confused too. | ||
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gngfn
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On May 14 2017 20:41 Arvendilin wrote: I don't think Bisu wins on outsider tbh I think Ssak has a prepared build that he didn't get to show in game 1 because of the cheese, so game 5 might be very very interesting | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:41 DwD wrote: Awful attack by Bisu and where the hell did the Reaver go? Must've been in the shuttle right that died? Was in the first of the two shuttles that died, yea | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:41 thezanursic wrote: Wait I don't understand. What was he trying to accomplish that game? It was fine for a while, the threat of shuttles made sSak play super defensively, Bisu could get an easy 4th base safely. Then he had a stroke and decided straight up fighting the millisecond Terran takes his third is a good idea. | ||
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c3rberUs
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Poll: Recommend Game 4? Yes (5) No (24) If you have time (9) 38 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 4? warn people this game will warp their minds | ||
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Arvendilin
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On May 14 2017 20:43 r.Evo wrote: It was fine for a while, the threat of shuttles made sSak play super defensively, Bisu could get an easy 4th base safely. Then he had a stroke and decided straight up fighting the millisecond Terran takes his third is a good idea. And he was already about to take his fifth, that makes it even worse, its not like he wasn't able to completely macro up however he wanted and he needed to get rid of that third or something... complete brainfart | ||
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On May 14 2017 20:43 Arvendilin wrote: OMG and my neighbours started fucking again... Knock and ask to join? Meh who am I kidding BW is better. | ||
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Arvendilin
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On May 14 2017 20:46 DwD wrote: Knock and ask to join? Meh who am I kidding BW is better. Firstly, I would never miss out on a Bisu game, secondly they must be getting tired, yesterday they started at 4 pm, and with tiny breaks kept going till 2 am... I don't mind them having their fun, but with a bed that squeaky it gets kind of excessive... | ||
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r.Evo
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Arvendilin
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On May 14 2017 20:48 r.Evo wrote: Oh god outsider again. This isn't gonna end well for Bisu, is it? ;;;;;; Exactly what I'm fearing... :/ Maybe he can surprise us! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49782 Posts
On May 14 2017 20:43 Arvendilin wrote: OMG and my neighbours started fucking again... maybe they're trying the bisu build? | ||
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CUTtheCBC
Canada91 Posts
On May 14 2017 20:48 Arvendilin wrote: Firstly, I would never miss out on a Bisu game, secondly they must be getting tired, yesterday they started at 4 pm, and with tiny breaks kept going till 2 am... I don't mind them having their fun, but with a bed that squeaky it gets kind of excessive... CRANK UP THE STREAM SOUNDS!! Let them f*ck to the arousing sounds of Bisu macroing! | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
Hopefully they are better at pulling out than Bisu was that last game ;;;;;; | ||
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gngfn
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Arvendilin
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nojok
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Then without shuttle. | ||
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Heyoka
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On May 14 2017 20:56 nojok wrote: Reaverles reaver drops! The mind games. Bisu could just build one shuttle and sSak would hide in his base for ten minutes tbh. ._. | ||
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sixfour
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hitthat
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c3rberUs
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Carriers? | ||
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letian
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:00 letian wrote: that feeling when Bisu goes carriers, you know what I mean Especially when they instantly get scanned. ;; | ||
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sixfour
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BlackJack
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 14 2017 21:01 BLinD-RawR wrote: Bisu is dead its so over those starports just fucked him over. lol nvm no cloak | ||
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Heyoka
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r.Evo
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Lucumo
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BLinD-RawR
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and all the wraiths dead | ||
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c3rberUs
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Doesn't matter paper planes burn down | ||
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Terrorbladder
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nojok
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:06 Lucumo wrote: He should have sniped those carriers with the wraiths way earlier. When the first few showed at 6 'o clock sSak could have cleaned that up so easily. | ||
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Ziggy
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:07 Terrorbladder wrote: meh, good try before you go to the military. He won't go to the air force, that's for sure. | ||
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outscar
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
Ouch. BISU NOW NEVER DO THAT GAME 4 AGAIN TY. <3 Also beat Flash plx k thx. :3 | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
The worst part of all this is that Bisu's side of the bracket is a joke, whereas the other side is terrifying (Best, Soulkey, Flash, Last) ASL should reseed Ro8 like MSL used to do | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4121 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11285 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:07 ZiggyPG wrote: ~85-90k viewers on afreeca add the ~17k viewers on the YT stream GEEEEEEEEEEEEEGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49782 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:08 psd wrote: Shine vs Bisu please =D yes. 100% yes | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:08 psd wrote: Shine vs Bisu please =D PLEASE | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11285 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:08 BLinD-RawR wrote: I'm going to the next page with this <style>body { background: url('http://i.imgur.com/ayO4o.gif'); }</style> I like this hahaha | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1706 Posts
BISU!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:09 c3rberUs wrote: add the ~17k viewers on the YT stream GEEEEEEEEEEEEEGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe 5.5k on Twitch! | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11285 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:09 Dante08 wrote: What is this background lol When Bisu pwned the hell out FlaSh in the Winner's League? (Or the PL Grand Finals) | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49782 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:11 c3rberUs wrote: When Bisu pwned the hell out FlaSh in the Winner's League? (Or the PL Grand Finals) winner's league 2011 on aztec | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
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arbiter_md
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SlayerS_BunkiE
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he sent a lot of manlots to flash!!! | ||
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idegelchik
Russian Federation382 Posts
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:13 Dante08 wrote: What's the background between Shine and Bisu btw Shine is literally the incarnation of evil... | ||
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hitthat
Poland2254 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:13 idegelchik wrote: bisu is bad nowdays, no chance vs mong His micro games where pretty unimpresive. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11285 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:13 Dante08 wrote: What's the background between Shine and Bisu btw Bisu the paradigm-shifting, zerg-eating, top Protoss player got cheesed to death in the OSL (2 times iirc) by Shine leading to the deaths of many of his fans here on TL. | ||
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mcmascote
Brazil1575 Posts
Anyways, Bisu was incredibly bad with shuttles this whole series. Amateurish, kinda. | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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Bonyth
Poland538 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:16 TheNewEra wrote: Bisu needs to play better from here on out now tho. He can be happy that his bracket is relatively easy compared to the other one because he probably would have lost to everyone in the bottom bracket today so u're saying that Ssak was lucky winning the group with Last and Jaedong in it, is that it? Ssak is not a push-over, neither is Mong or Shine | ||
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outscar
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On May 14 2017 21:16 mcmascote wrote: Was Sea commentating the games? He had 50k viewers... Anyways, Bisu was incredibly bad with shuttles this whole series. Amateurish, kinda. with terror | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:20 Bonyth wrote: so u're saying that Ssak was lucky winning the group with Last and Jaedong in it, is that it? Ssak is not a push-over, neither is Mong or Shine No I'm not saying that. I'm saying that both Bisu and sSak were a bit sloppy today. | ||
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mcmascote
Brazil1575 Posts
Wish I could speak Korean ^^; | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden304 Posts
Bisu played a great game but didn't expand enough to win. sSak did a great job dropping and harassing and I don't want to take anything away from him. Was Bisu to threatened by the drop game to expand there? It felt like it was worth the risk anyway. There was simply no way for him to win if he didn't get more mining going. Fantastic game but I couldn't help but feel a bit let down by how it ended. | ||
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usopsama
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That said, game 1 was impressive. I literally thought the game was over at 7:30, when the DT went into sSak's main in the early game. The unscouted 3 o'clock base saved him. | ||
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Miragee
8467 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:20 outscar wrote: I wanna give some credit for sSak because games he won were all super long and macro, lost ones were quick. Let's hope he can delay his military and come back even strong for next season. More soju and watching girl BJ's for sSak ^^ His second game was a 2-1 timing push? And in game 1 he was ahead for a long time but Bisu got back into the game slowly but surely until they were even. But yeah, he played better than expected. Pretty awesome series overall. //Also John and FlashFTW, if you are reading this: You are doing a good job. You've got great chemistry and I'm really enjoying your cast. | ||
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
These games yes but in ro16 he held a very high level. And His stats are like over 80% on fish vs top players. Idegelchik did u watch those? He's up and down but strong when he's focused. He said that loosing the first game threw him off, which isn't an excuse, rather the problem cuz he needs to focus and flow, not get thrown off if he's gonna have a chance against Flash in the finals yep Flash vs bisu finals fuck yeah! If Bisu plays as he did against Sea we've got a beautiful final to look forward to. If Bisu wins the first game, gets his groove on, dtays focused, isn't thrown off, has prepared smartly enough he might just have a chance at only loosing 3-2. The first game would throw off most players, lead to mistakes. forgetting to land a barracks was very bad but noone can fall back on 100% practiced timings or do what they planned when the game starts like that. So they were really tested there, Ssak impressed me a lot. Flash probably wouldnt forget his rax but he'd probably make smaller unusual mistakes. So I wouldn't go too harsh on them in that game except for the barracks. I hope they keep outsider in the map pool next season. Very interesting games here, it's not figured out yet it seems. | ||
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Australia1928 Posts
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Barneyk
Sweden304 Posts
On May 14 2017 21:15 hitthat wrote: His micro games where pretty unimpresive. What? His dragoon micro in game 3 (or was it 2) was a thing of beauty. My heart was racing and I was squeeling like a fangirl on coke with how beautifully he controlled his dragoons and destroyed ssak. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4698 Posts
Note that while he does have an observer, he's under so much pressure from actual units that this basically doesn't matter imo. It's beautiful to see these dragoons dance like that. | ||
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Turbovolver
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ColdLava
Canada1673 Posts
On May 15 2017 14:55 Turbovolver wrote: Absolutely, his micro in game 3 was great but this was definitely the "terribad at PvT" Bisu I remember, and not the one apparently tearing up the matchup on stream these days. Care to explain? In game 1, most protosses would have been completely out of the game after that opening, but due to VERY good unit control while breaking pushes, he was able to creep up and almost even out the game even though he was on even bases for most of the game (which is not ideal for protoss). I actually took the game as a positive for Bisu considering how competitive he made it after having completely ineffectual proxy gate and dt harrass. Game 2 and 3 he displayed great decision making and micro, but the games didn't go long enough to get a very good read on his skillset. Game 4, that was the one game where I thought Bisu played flat out badly, but then in game 5, he responded quite well to a semi unexpected wraith attack, and had good mechanics, macro and decision making overall. I kinda cringed at how often Bisu lost units in the centre due to mines without having observers near by, but then again Ssak was making a concerted effort to shoot down observers. Ssak also made quite an effort to draw units out from Bisu and then plant mines behind them. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2254 Posts
On May 15 2017 11:58 Barneyk wrote: What? His dragoon micro in game 3 (or was it 2) was a thing of beauty. My heart was racing and I was squeeling like a fangirl on coke with how beautifully he controlled his dragoons and destroyed ssak. Oh God, thanks man for correcting me. I wanted write "MACRO games" (not "MICRO games") and I just got complete brain freeze, since i even wrote "where" instead of "were". Sorry for that blunder. | ||
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ColdLava
Canada1673 Posts
On May 15 2017 17:11 hitthat wrote: Oh God, thanks man for correcting me. I wanted write "MACRO games" (not "MICRO games") and I just got complete brain freeze, since i even wrote "where" instead of "were". Sorry for that blunder. HAHAHAHA fair enough  | ||
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YASHSHAKAR
United States75 Posts
Theres just too much to mention on one post. Big ups to Bisu for the win. Most expected this outcome.. However, I knew all too well that Ssak has been playing in great form lately so it wasnt going to be easy for Bisu. Bisu not only won this series, but also clinched his spot for the next season. This is huge for him because it gives him further confidence that he is back and showing tidbits from his prime days. We know he can wreck any player in existence, its just a matter of whether or not he can remain consistent. Totally stoked for Shine Vs Mong tuesday. | ||
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Tripcho
Bulgaria31 Posts
On May 15 2017 14:47 Phyanketto wrote: Great series but I found bisu underwhelming. If ssak didn't go wraith he probably would have won with his push if he added more factories and made Goliath. The same thing we can say for game 4 , if Bisu didnt do this ridiculously attack, he should won easy. | ||
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IntoTheStorm
116 Posts
I play protoss, I usually cheer for protoss players. Yet every time Bisu is on, I kind of would like him to lose. Not because I don't like him, he seems a funny and a cheerful guy that has mad skill, hands down best protoss ever imo. But it's because he's almost all the time the favorite to win the entire series and/or a tournament and I get all warm and fuzzy inside when the underdog takes the bo3 or bo5. It somehow feels fitting. Anyway, the series was amazing, I can't criticize for lack of skill or bad decision making because all those mistakes are what is making this game so thrilling to watch. I can't want for the others as well. Cheers to Bisu and I hope the other ro8 series deliver in a similar way, all the way to game 5. | ||
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wabe.PrayHard
Bolivia45 Posts
On May 15 2017 13:17 Uldridge wrote: While his dragoon play was very nice indeed, there's some events that do top that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMH_q6jQbOo&t=580 Note that while he does have an observer, he's under so much pressure from actual units that this basically doesn't matter imo. It's beautiful to see these dragoons dance like that. wow! thank you!! forgot that game!! I watched live at that time, dragoons dancing epicly indeed!!! that made the game I believe | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden304 Posts
On May 15 2017 17:11 hitthat wrote: Oh God, thanks man for correcting me. I wanted write "MACRO games" (not "MICRO games") and I just got complete brain freeze, since i even wrote "where" instead of "were". Sorry for that blunder. Lol, that makes a lot more sense. But I still disagree though, not as much as I did with micro, but still. He played very well in game 1 and his macro was good, but he was behind from the start with a failed rush and he didn't take enough bases but ssak was also shutting it down very very well and have an advantage with the superior race for drop play. So Bisu wasn't able to expand and he was on equal or less mining than ssak for most of the game. It is a really wonky map that has some serious balance issues and people have not really figured that map out yet so I can't fault his macro for losing that game. And the only other game he lost was just a terrible attack into a fortified terran that lost him the game in an instant. Hard to read much into that. On May 15 2017 21:37 IntoTheStorm wrote: This was so fun to watch from game 1 till the end. I play protoss, I usually cheer for protoss players. Yet every time Bisu is on, I kind of would like him to lose. Not because I don't like him, he seems a funny and a cheerful guy that has mad skill, hands down best protoss ever imo. But it's because he's almost all the time the favorite to win the entire series and/or a tournament and I get all warm and fuzzy inside when the underdog takes the bo3 or bo5. It somehow feels fitting. Anyway, the series was amazing, I can't criticize for lack of skill or bad decision making because all those mistakes are what is making this game so thrilling to watch. I can't want for the others as well. Cheers to Bisu and I hope the other ro8 series deliver in a similar way, all the way to game 5. The thing is, Bisu feels like the underdog to me. He has lost so many times when he was supposed to win. SSL9 is his only premier win this decade. | ||
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_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
In game 2 luck was on bisu side, or just ssak too impatient, when he move his second scv from barracks to see if probe gonna scout him and got into range vision behind the probe, so it was clear for bisu there is something in the middle with the 2 scvs. If that didnt happen we mightve seen another 3-0 (nevermind they just showed that in the rep after game). Man game 3 was beautiful to watch. The big mistake was sSak not microing his tanks letting them die to dragoons. Hes choking probably, because Bisu went so confident on these mines. It was like Bisu knows where every mine is placed even where he doesnt have vision in the moment of placing. I need to watch this game again. Perhaps being together on SKT for so many years and in recent Afreeca team league is why Bisu to know such crazy details?!? | ||
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AdelSC123
France362 Posts
On May 16 2017 06:24 _Animus_ wrote: Man game 3 was beautiful to watch. The big mistake was sSak not microing his tanks letting them die to dragoons. Hes choking probably, because Bisu went so confident on these mines. It was like Bisu knows where every mine is placed even where he doesnt have vision in the moment of placing. I need to watch this game again. Perhaps being together on SKT for so many years and in recent Afreeca team league is why Bisu to know such crazy details?!? No, he saw where some were being planted and he stutter stepped when he was on unknown territory. A chobo like me can do it semi-consistently if I have no distraction, but it was really impressive to see being used inside the opponent's base where units are ready to draw fire, tank shots, and affect of the goons movement with a far away base to macro | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
Talking themselves into him actually playing well this series (he didn't, and would have lost to any of the top Terrans playing this way). Saying that he actually feels kind of like an underdog (seriously? Ssak is like the 5th best Terran and this is PvT). Freaking out about his one good game of micro (very good, but every pro can do it ... Bisu deserves credit for being so ballsy on a map that requires it but it was more the ballsiness than the micro that was impressive). Saying things like Terran OP on Outsider. Posting the Heartbreak Ridge video from literally 8 years ago. Too good. I hope Bisu makes the finals because BW is better when Bisu is good, but man, let's call it like it was. A terrible performance by him, and he escaped by the skin of his teeth against a player of lower caliber. Where's the Bisu that won 80% last month? | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
People going on and on about how Bisu was playing really aggresive/his macro wasn't impressive. Are you forgetting this was a teamkill? Him and sSak have played hundreds if not thousands of games with each other. They couldn't both just go Macro as they know how to counter each other. | ||
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mastakilla[Xp]
Germany93 Posts
On May 16 2017 12:23 darktreb wrote: Lols, best of Bisu fans out in full force this thread! Talking themselves into him actually playing well this series (he didn't, and would have lost to any of the top Terrans playing this way). Saying that he actually feels kind of like an underdog (seriously? Ssak is like the 5th best Terran and this is PvT). Freaking out about his one good game of micro (very good, but every pro can do it ... Bisu deserves credit for being so ballsy on a map that requires it but it was more the ballsiness than the micro that was impressive). Saying things like Terran OP on Outsider. Posting the Heartbreak Ridge video from literally 8 years ago. Too good. I hope Bisu makes the finals because BW is better when Bisu is good, but man, let's call it like it was. A terrible performance by him, and he escaped by the skin of his teeth against a player of lower caliber. Where's the Bisu that won 80% last month? I agree with you that Bisu's perfomance was terrible... He admitted in the interview that he was really mad at himself, because of his poor performance. Let's hope to see the "real" Bisu in the semis and the finals =) | ||
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_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
On May 16 2017 12:23 darktreb wrote: Lols, best of Bisu fans out in full force this thread! Freaking out about his one good game of micro (very good, but every pro can do it ... Bisu deserves credit for being so ballsy on a map that requires it but it was more the ballsiness than the micro that was impressive). Saying things like Terran OP on Outsider. I hope Bisu makes the finals because BW is better when Bisu is good, but man, let's call it like it was. A terrible performance by him, and he escaped by the skin of his teeth against a player of lower caliber. Where's the Bisu that won 80% last month? Im not Bisu fan. Yes he was ballzy and did it perfectly. We know every pro can do it, but for some reason they dont do it like Bisu... Terran looks OP on Outsider. Game 1 and 3 was good im up to watch the rest. Bisu picked shitty build in the first game and almost come back while playing all game with eco disadvantage. Ssak had easier time defending and doing harass all the time, as tastosis said 1 shuttle cant deal with a dropship full of units. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2384 Posts
On May 15 2017 16:35 ColdLava wrote: Care to explain? In game 1, most protosses would have been completely out of the game after that opening, but due to VERY good unit control while breaking pushes, he was able to creep up and almost even out the game even though he was on even bases for most of the game (which is not ideal for protoss). I actually took the game as a positive for Bisu considering how competitive he made it after having completely ineffectual proxy gate and dt harrass. Game 2 and 3 he displayed great decision making and micro, but the games didn't go long enough to get a very good read on his skillset. Game 4, that was the one game where I thought Bisu played flat out badly, but then in game 5, he responded quite well to a semi unexpected wraith attack, and had good mechanics, macro and decision making overall. I kinda cringed at how often Bisu lost units in the centre due to mines without having observers near by, but then again Ssak was making a concerted effort to shoot down observers. Ssak also made quite an effort to draw units out from Bisu and then plant mines behind them. Honestly, I'd have to re-watch game 1 now to talk about it properly. I might be underrating Bisu there. Game 2 was yeah, ugh, BBS. Nothing more to say. Game 3 was an excellent micro showing from Bisu, gotta admit that even as an anti-fan. Game 4 was classic Bisu PvT failing. No idea when or how to attack in a straight up game. This was the same kind of shit he did vs Sea in an earlier ASL where he lost 3-0. Game 5, Bisu avoids his usual PvT hurdles by going carriers. His opponent sort of gifts him the game by going wraiths, getting nervous, and going for a big fight while the carriers are heavily protected. I have to imagine, especially on Outsider, that there would be plenty opportunity to keep the wraiths hidden, and suddenly completely rout the carriers when they start trying to abuse the map and can't be backed up, not out in the open! Alternatively, if he had cloak sooner he could have engaged the carriers when they first attacked his 6 o'clock base and I have to imagine that would've gotten some major work done. I mean Bisu won fair and square, but I wouldn't call this game a demonstration of Bisu's new apparent PvT talents. Seems to me if he wants success in PvT he has to continue catching people off guard with builds, taking advantage of his admittedly great micro, or playing the harass-heavy style he showed vs Sea that can overwhelm most players (but I doubt would win vs top terrans). | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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Barneyk
Sweden304 Posts
On May 18 2017 11:18 Turbovolver wrote: I have to imagine, especially on Outsider, that there would be plenty opportunity to keep the wraiths hidden, and suddenly completely rout the carriers when they start trying to abuse the map and can't be backed up, not out in the open! But when Bisu doesn't see any real number of Goliaths, why would he back away with the carriers? If there are a significant number of goliaths there is no need to abuse the map and you can just fight things head on. Your tactical idea really makes no sense to me with how the game looked. And, since Bisu didn't see enough goliaths he must've known that Wraits where incoming. | ||
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ortseam
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O.P.
Sweden109 Posts
On May 16 2017 00:40 Barneyk wrote: ssak was also shutting it down very very well and have an advantage with the superior race for drop play. Is it though? Shuttles have speed, are cheaper, and come out quicker. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2384 Posts
On May 18 2017 21:06 Barneyk wrote: But when Bisu doesn't see any real number of Goliaths, why would he back away with the carriers? If there are a significant number of goliaths there is no need to abuse the map and you can just fight things head on. Your tactical idea really makes no sense to me with how the game looked. And, since Bisu didn't see enough goliaths he must've known that Wraits where incoming. Huh? I just flicked through the game again and I stand by what I said. Ssak panics and attacks with just his wraiths while the carriers are flying above dragoons, the rest of the terran ground army is busy attacking the 1 o'clock base. If instead Ssak uses all those vultures and 6 tanks against the dragoons and carriers, what happens is either Bisu fights and the dragoons melt, Ssak loses his ground army, and then the wraiths can clean up, or Bisu retreats and likely tries to poke at a base using just the carriers, and that's when you go for them. That's what I mean about getting them while they are trying to abuse the map. You're right that if there's no goliaths the carriers can stay with the protoss ground army, but by my judgement Bisu didn't have enough of a ground army to actually make that relevant provided that Ssak actually used his own ground army in the engagement, which welp, he didn't. That's the more important part of my point - Ssak panicked, and/or was blown out by the random dragoon that spotted his wraiths when they moved out and allowed Bisu to better prepare his observers. He banked the whole game on that one fight (you pretty much have to with wraiths, sure) but then didn't even commit his whole army to the fight. It was a grave mistake. | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden304 Posts
On May 18 2017 21:54 ortseam wrote: He didn't know, he mentioned in the interview that he thought the carriers were unscouted. Are you replying to me? I am talking about when they are attacking already. If you don't see goliaths coming out to defend you know wraiths are coming soon. On May 19 2017 01:00 O.P. wrote: Is it though? Shuttles have speed, are cheaper, and come out quicker. Yes. 2 dragoons vs 2 tanks. 2 tanks win easy. 4 vultures is way stronger worker harass than 4 zealots. With tank-drops you can abuse ledges and ridges and use distance to greater effect than you can with reaver drops. Now, shuttles and reavers have their advantages as well, but in a drop battle terran is the much stronger race. And Protoss has recall and stuff that is even stronger in other ways, but in drop battles terran is the stronger race. | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
shows that even progamers don't think sometimes and play on a track. so glad we got shine who thinks more. | ||
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